In this conversation, Buddy and Kolby discuss the evolving role of houndsmen in wildlife conservation, particularly in relation to mountain lions. They explore the importance of hounds in scientific studies, the changing perception of houndsmen within the professional community, and the challenges they face from anti-hunting advocates. The discussion emphasizes the need for houndsmen to engage with biologists and conservationists to improve their image and contribute positively to wildlife management efforts. In this conversation, Kolby Morehead and Buddy discuss various aspects of hunting, including the negative impact of poaching on the perception of houndsmen, the emotional narratives used by anti-hunting advocates, and the importance of building and tuning custom rifles. They also delve into the pressures of competitive shooting, the significance of learning through experience, and the fundamentals of shooting. The discussion highlights the benefits of suppressed shooting and the evolving nature of hunting practices.