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IA on AI – Fake Data, Deleted Code, and the Risk We’re Not Ready For
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13:11Links: From Gizmodo.com - Replit’s AI Agent Wipes Company’s Codebase During Vibecoding Session From Last Week Tonight with John Oliver - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWpg1RmzAbc From Financial Times - Can finance put a stop to AI data mining? * Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-au…
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This week on The AI in IA Podcast, we’re taking a closer look at one of the newest AI developments: ChatGPT’s autonomous agents. What can they actually do and more importantly, what are the risks? We break down OpenAI’s own policy to highlight security concerns that internal auditors (and really, any user) need to know. From real-world examples lik…
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Ep 249: Training Your Audit Team for the New AI Era w/ Anthony Reyes (Remitly)
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30:37This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Anthony Reyes, Vice President of Internal Audit at Remitly. Anthony believes AI in audit isn’t a “someday” thing—it’s already happening. In this episode, he talks about the real ways AI is being used right now, including how it’s helping with testing controls and building smarter audit tools. We also …
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IA on AI – McDonald’s Bot Breach, Google’s AI Cyber Win, and Nvidia Hits $4 Trillion
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8:15This week on IA on AI, we break down the McDonald’s hiring bot fiasco — yes, the one where an AI chatbot exposed data from over 60 million job applicants due to a shockingly simple security lapse. We explore why these matters to internal auditors and what basic control failures like this can teach us about staying vigilant as AI becomes more embedd…
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Ep 248: What Really Matters When Building an Audit Team w/ Mike Padilla (Starbucks)
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38:57This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Mike Padilla, Senior Manager of Internal Audit and SOX Leader at Starbucks. Mike brings a refreshing perspective on the internal audit profession—starting with the idea that we might need to stop taking ourselves so seriously. His insights are especially relevant for those thinking about the future of…
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IA on AI – AI Voice Clones a Senator, State-Led Regulation, and What the FRC Just Made Clear
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6:28In today’s episode of IA on AI, we cover an AI voice scam impersonating a high-ranking official, the sweeping new “Big Beautiful Bill” on AI regulations, and landmark AI guidance just released by the FRC. They break down: • A Marco Rubio impostor is using AI voice to call high-level officials - washingtonpost.com • ‘Big Beautiful Bill’ Leaves AI Re…
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Ep 247: Why Internal Audit Should Lead the AI Charge w/ Shannon Urban (Hasbro)
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38:04This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Shannon Urban, Chief Audit Executive at Hasbro. In this episode, Shannon shares how she’s leading her team through a major shift—reallocating about half of her full-time audit staff—and why that move is positioning her team for long-term impact. She also discusses how she’s upskilling her team on AI a…
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IA on AI – Ep 1: Is AI Taking Over Audit Jobs?
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19:20In the first episode of IA on AI, John Thompson joins Trent to talk about one of the biggest questions in the audit world right now: Is AI Taking Over Audit Jobs? They break down: What AI can and can’t do (yet) in audit How the role of the auditor might shift Why this isn’t just about losing jobs — it’s about changing how we work They also touch on…
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Ep 246: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 4 w/ Kevin Ryan
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30:09This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Kevin Ryan, former Chief Risk Review Officer and General Auditor at KeyBank, where he spent 38 years—15 of those in audit leadership. In this episode, Kevin reflects on the importance of relationships and shares how he was able to gain the ear of the CEO, something …
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Ep 245: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 3 w/ Mike Jenkins
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40:46This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Mike Jenkins, former VP of Internal Audit at Facebook, Gap, and Included Health, and former Director of Financial Audit at Google. Since retiring, Mike has embraced a new chapter—as an artist. In this episode, he shares how creativity has always been a superpower fo…
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Ep 244: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 2 w/ Dale Jeanes
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41:18This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re continuing our Retired CAE Summer Series with Dale Jeanes, former General Auditor (CAE) at Truist, where he spent an impressive 34 years. Dale now leads Jeanes Professional Development, where he coaches internal audit, risk management, and finance professionals. In this episode, Dale joins the show to reflect o…
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Ep 243: Retired CAE Summer Series – Part 1 w/ Robert Brewer
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35:45This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re kicking off our Retired CAE Summer Series with Bob Brewer, former Chief Audit Executive at Las Vegas Sands and former Chief Compliance Officer at Office Depot. With almost two years of retirement under his belt, Bob joins the show to reflect on his career from a fresh perspective. In this episode, he shares wha…
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Ep 242: Audit Like a Storyteller w/ Shagen Ganason (Liva Group)
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37:40This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Shagen Ganason, Group Chief Auditor, and Chief Audit Executive at Liva Group. In this episode, Shagen shares the inspiration behind his new book, The Storyteller’s Ledger, and why he believes storytelling is one of the most powerful tools internal auditors can develop. From rethinking traditional audi…
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Ep 241: How to Win Support for ERM w/ Beth Womersley (Universal Destination & Experiences)
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34:06This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Beth Womersley, Head of Assurance & Advisory Services at Universal Destination & Experiences. Beth shares her experience launching and leading ERM programs across multiple organizations. As internal audit teams take on more ERM responsibilities, she shares tips on where to start, how to get support fr…
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Ep 240: Practical Tips to Improve Workplace Communication w/ Nancy Yuen (SoFi)
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36:27This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Nancy Yuen, Financial Data and VP of SOX Governance at SoFi. In this episode, Nancy shares how emotional intelligence has been a driving force behind her career success—from her early days at KPMG to leadership roles at Clorox, Google, and now SoFi. Nancy realized she needed to intentionally build her…
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Ep 239: Reimagining Audit Staffing w/ Chris Denver
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26:18This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Chris Denver, former CAE and IIA Chicago President. In this episode, Chris walks us through the forward-looking staffing model he’s developed—one that balances internal talent with digital tools and trusted external partners to create a more flexible, future-ready audit function. He shares how this hy…
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Ep 238: The Best Advice from Agentic AI Experts
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21:58This week on The Audit Podcast, we’ve gathered the best moments from our conversations with Agentic AI experts—featuring standout insights from Charles King, John Thompson, and Andrew Clark. AI Agent Governance: A Field Guide Be sure to follow us on our new social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Au…
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Ep 237: Protocol for Preparing for Your Best Audit Committee Meeting Ever w/ Rob Clark Jr. (Howard University)
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53:44This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Rob Clark Jr., Chief Auditing and Compliance Officer at Howard University. In this episode, Rob breaks down the one skill that separates good auditors from great ones: communication. He pulls back the curtain on how he preps, practices, and performs, whether it’s a team meeting, a presentation, or a h…
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Ep 236: The one KPI for Internal Audit w/ Mark Freeman (Vermeer Corporation)
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42:46This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Mark Freeman, Head of Internal Audit at Vermeer Corporation. In this episode, Mark shares insights from a recent CAE roundtable, where recruitment, audit committee metrics, and Copilot use cases topped the agenda. He also walks us through how he rebuilt internal audit’s reputation at Vermeer after ste…
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Ep 235: Rethinking Change Management Audits w/ Taylor Meadows (Change Captain)
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24:03This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Taylor Meadows, Founder and CEO of Change Captain. In this episode, Taylor shares his journey from manually managing IT change controls to founding Change Captain, a software solution that streamlines change management and R&D tax credit processes. We touch on organizations handle code changes, the ri…
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Ep 234: AI Talks Data & Analytics (Feat. Monica Royal’s Article)
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14:18We've tested Notebook LM again, an AI tool that transforms written articles into podcast episodes using artificially generated voices. This time, we used an article by Monica Royal, founder of Nerd Nourishment. Monica attended the Mini Spring Audit Analytics and AI Conference and shared her key takeaways in a LinkedIn article. We uploaded her piece…
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Ep 233: How to Get More Internal Audit Budget w/ David Hill (HillAudit Training Ltd)
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28:40This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by we’re joined by David Hill, Managing Director of HillAudit Training Ltd. In this episode, David challenges the idea that stability equals security and internal audit. He explores how budget cuts, resistance to change, and outdated processes can lead to disengagement—hurting recruitment, retention, and…
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Ep 232: A Contrarian View of Agentic AI w/ Andrew Clark (Monitaur)
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44:55This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Andrew Clark, Co-Founder and CTO of Monitaur. In this episode, Andrew shares his unique perspective on agentic AI, challenging common assumptions about what AI agents actually are. He explores the marketing problem with AI and agents, why agents might not be what we think, and the governance challenge…
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Ep 231: Enhancing Audit Analytics: Lessons in Automation and AI w/ Ishan Kunkur (Delta Air Lines)
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39:14This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Ishan Kunkur, Digital Analytics Program Manager at Delta Air Lines. In this episode, Ishan shares how his team has embedded analytics into the audit process—from upskilling auditors with Power Query and Power BI training to automating SOX control testing, saving 360 hours annually. He explains how the…
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Ep 230: What Can Go Wrong When SOX Doesn't Go Right w/ Courtney Dal Col (Clearsulting)
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30:50This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Courtney Dal Col, Director of Risk Advisory at Clearsulting. In this episode, we talk about the role of SOX in big business changes and why it often gets overlooked. Courtney shares how to make sure SOX is part of the process from the start, helping to avoid last-minute problems. She also explains why…
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Ep 229: What Works (and What Doesn’t) in Audit Committee Dashboards w/ Eric Wilson (Gulfport Energy Corporation)
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51:18This week on The Audit Podcast, we’re joined by Eric Wilson, Director of Internal Audit & Chief Audit Executive of Gulfport Energy Corporation. In this episode, we discuss how to build an effective audit committee dashboard. Eric explains how he created a Power BI dashboard that connects to his audit management system. This tool helps track progres…
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Ep 228: Internal Controls: Respected or Just Tolerated? w/ Marc Tasse (University of Ottawa)
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23:12This week’s episode, we're joined by Marc Tasse, MBA Program Director at the University of Ottawa. He also serves on the audit committee for the Ontario Treasury Board Secretariat and Public Safety Canada. In this episode, he discusses whether people truly respect internal controls—from the board level to the first line—and the balance between repe…
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Ep 227: Risk Management and The Three Lines of Defense w/ Grant Thornton’s Risk and Advisory Team
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45:34This week’s episode, we're joined by the Grant Thornton risk and advisory team—Andres Castañeda, Jaynitsa Paul, and EJ Jimenez. In this episode, they explain their article Risk Management: Get Your Three Lines in Order in simple terms. They clear up common misunderstandings about the first, second, and third lines of defense in risk management. The…
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Ep 226: Answering Your Agentic AI Questions
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29:20Trent’s AuditBoard Webinar - Up Next for Internal Audit: AI Agents This week, Trent answers common questions about agentic AI from his recent AuditBoard webinar. In this episode, he explains how agents are changing audit and analytics—not by taking jobs, but by creating new opportunities. He breaks down the differences between agents and traditiona…
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Ep 225: How to Carry Out a Clear and Effective Risk Assessment w/ David Dufek (Principal Financial Group)
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35:32This week’s episode, we're joined by David Dufek, Chief Internal Auditor at Principal Financial Group. In this episode, David explains how to carry out a clear and effective risk assessment, making it easier to identify and prioritize potential risks. He also talks about the importance of aligning your audit work with the organization's main goals,…
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Trent Talks What’s Up Next for Internal Audit: AI Agents
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4:05Trent’s AuditBoard Webinar - Up Next for Internal Audit: AI Agents This week, Trent explains how AI Agents are set to transform internal audit. On January 22nd, he will host a webinar with AuditBoard to discuss generative AI for internal auditors, breaking down what AI Agents are and how they work. These agents handle tasks like analyzing data, wri…
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Ep 224: Agentic AI and Resources for Internal Audit w/ John Thompson (EY)
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28:49This week’s episode, we're joined by John Thompson, Global AI Leader at EY. In this episode, John explains how AI, especially agents, will shape the future of businesses and internal audit teams. He identifies 2025 and 2026 as pivotal years for agent technology and the tools that will emerge from it. Be sure to connect with John on LinkedIn. Also, …
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Ep 223: AI Agents in Internal Audit in 2025 w/ Charles King (KPMG US)
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41:54This week’s episode, we're joined by Charles King, Internal Controls Leader in AI at KPMG US. In this episode, Charles brings a unique perspective as both an AI expert and an audit professional, He looks back on key moments from 2024, talks about where organizations are on the maturity model, and unpacks the biggest topic of 2025: agents. Charles d…
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This week’s episode features highlights from previous episodes, showcasing the best advice on AI. This episode features insights from industry leaders: Badal Patel explores AI tools in the audit process, Ben Phillips discusses AI and inflation, Julio Tirado emphasizes responsible AI, Michael Pellet explains why all auditors should be data experts (…
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Ep 221: Audit Ready All the Time w/ Haim Halpern (Datricks)
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40:17This week’s episode, we're joined by Haim Halpern, Co-Founder & CEO of Datricks. In this episode, Haim shares his experience in finance, auditing, compliance, and cybersecurity. He talks about trends in analytics and AI for internal audit, the value of real-time risk detection, and how Datricks helps organizations stay ready for audits. Haim also g…
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Ep 220: When AI Steals the Mic – An AI Podcast on Data and Analytics (Featuring Monica Royal’s Article)
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11:17This week, we’re testing an exciting new AI tool called Notebook LM. This tool takes written articles, processes the data, and turns them into podcasts with artificially generated voices. We decided to try it out using an article by Monica Royal, founder of Nerd Nourishment. Monika attended the 2024 Audit Analytics and AI Conference and wrote a gre…
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Ep 219: SOX Mastery and Continuous Improvement w/ Tom O’Reilly (Internal Audit Collective)
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40:59This week’s episode, we're joined by Tom O’Reilly, Founder of Internal Audit Collective. In this episode, Tom talks about what he would change in the audit profession, the importance of bringing in outside perspectives, working with consultants during audits, and helping auditors grow their careers. Be sure to connect with Tom on LinkedIn. Also, be…
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Ep 218: Staffing Approaches and Marketing Internal Audit w/ Michael Pellet (Lyft)
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51:37This week’s episode, we're joined by Michael Pellet, Director of Internal Audit at Lyft. In this episode, Michael explores strategies for hiring and retaining top talent, highlighting his innovative staffing model. He emphasizes the importance of all auditors being proficient in data, even if they aren’t experts in AI, and underscores the critical …
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Ep 217: What You Need to Know about AI Responsible w/ Julio Tirado (SpiritBank)
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46:54This week’s episode, we're joined by Julio Tirado, Executive Vice President-Director of Internal Audit & Compliance at SpiritBank. In this episode, we focus on responsible AI and effective strategies for managing new technologies. Julio shares insights on integrating AI in the workplace, understanding AI hallucinations, and exploring emerging AI tr…
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Ep 216: Finding Your Path in Internal Audit w/ Marie Walsh (Spotify)
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31:10This week’s episode, we're joined by Marie Walsh, Spotify’s Head of Internal Audit and Risk. In this episode, Marie shares her passion for guiding team members in their career paths, both within and beyond internal audit. She discusses her empowering strategies, including thoughtful one-on-one sessions that support individual growth, as well as her…
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Ep 215: Strategies to Secure More Resources for Internal Audit w/ Norman Marks
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50:26This week’s episode, we're joined by Norman Marks, author, thought leader, blogger, teacher, and occasional consultant. In this episode, Norman shares what he sees as the top priority for Chief Audit Executives and gives practical tips on handling budget challenges, especially as audit teams face higher demands without matching resources. Be sure t…
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Ep 214: Connected Risk w/ Richard Chambers
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25:21This week’s episode, we're joined by Richard Chambers, Senior Advisor over Risk and Audit at AuditBoard. In this episode, Richard explores the concept of connected risk, explaining what it means in today’s environment and why it’s become increasingly important. He also highlights key takeaways from his latest book, Connected Risk: Conquering the Pe…
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Ep 213: Transforming Audit in 2024 w/ Stephanie Richard (Ally)
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32:25This week’s episode, we're joined by joined by Stephanie Richard, Chief Audit Executive at Ally. In this episode, Stephanie shares how she transformed the culture and mindset of her internal audit team of over 150 auditors. She talks about the challenges of driving innovation in a large team, staying ahead of emerging trends, and guiding her depart…
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Ep 212: Managing Relationships as a CAE w/ Aaron Gagnon (McKinsey & Company)
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38:51This week’s episode, we're joined by Aaron Gagnon, Partner and Chief Audit Officer at McKinsey & Company. In this episode, Aaron shares his personal mantra, "show up and try," and explains how this mindset influences his work and life. He highlights his unique approach to hiring, focusing on both experience and key qualities that set candidates apa…
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Ep 211: The Best Advice for Hiring and Retention
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24:08This week’s episode, we are highlighting clips from previous episodes of the best advice about hiring and retention. In this episode, Scott Madenburg talks about the balance between recruiting for talent versus character, while Melissa Pici highlights the importance of screening candidates for passion, curiosity, and drive. Jo Erven shares her appr…
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Ep 210: Terrible Audit Recommendations w/ Jennie Wallace (Melody Advisory Services)
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50:54This week’s episode, we're joined by Jennie Wallace, CEO and Founder of Melody Advisory Services. Jennie brings a wealth of experience, having worked across the first, second, and third lines of defense in audit and risk management. In this episode, Jennie shares how management views audit from her experience on both sides of being an audit and hel…
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Ep 209: Standup Comedian and Auditor on Humor in the Workplace w/ Mike Lynn
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52:25This week’s episode, we're joined by Mike Lynn, owner of ARG*O and Adjunct Professor at St. John's University. Recognized by the IIA as the "Funniest Accountant in America," Mike brings a unique perspective to the podcast. In this episode, Mike talks about the power of humor in business, including how he incorporates it into serious audit situation…
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Ep 208: Favorite Fraud Stories and Protecting Vulnerable Customers w/ Mark Houston (Audient Group)
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53:56This week’s episode, we're joined by Mark Houston, a Partner at Audient Group. He is a seasoned expert in Fraud Risk Management and Data & Analytics Strategy. In this episode, we explore the world of fraud detection as Mark shares his top two favorite fraud cases. We also cover current fraud trends in both organizations and personal life, introduce…
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Ep 207: Tax Analytics Use Cases w/ Michelle Velez (ITT Inc)
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32:54This week’s episode, we're joined by Michelle Velez, Vice President of Internal Audit at ITT Inc. Michelle offers a unique perspective, having transitioned from a tax background into internal audit. In this episode, Michelle covers how to audit tax processes effectively, why tax strategies matter, and the role of analytics in making audits more eff…
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