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Allyship doesn’t happen by accident. It requires intention, action, and consistency. The goal of Allyship in Action is to provide practical, actionable tools from inclusion experts that people can be more actionable allies at work.
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This podcast episode features Sarah Kernion, a writer, podcast host of "The Inchstones Podcast," and mother of two profoundly autistic, nonspeaking children. Kernion advocates for a new conversation around profound autism, focusing on neurobiological barriers and redefining advocacy to prioritize presence, effort, and dignity over milestone achieve…
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In this moving conversation, Donna Ross-Jones joins Inchstones host Sarah Kernion to talk about the deep, often unspoken realities of parenting children with disabilities—especially autism. Together, they open up about the long arc of grief that can come with a diagnosis, the resilience required to keep going, and the unexpected ways siblings are s…
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Ever feel like you're on autopilot, navigating work without seeing its underlying systems? Like fish unaware of water, we often miss the crucial "water" of our workplace environment. This podcast invites you to consciously see this water and understand how others experience it differently. We'll explore how diversity, inclusion, and equity are vita…
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This week’s conversation takes us deep into the heart of caregiving and the layered beauty of loving someone with autism. Dr. Kerry Burnight—gerontologist and author of JOYSPAN: The Art and Science of Thriving in Life's Second Half(coming out August 5!)—joins Inchstones host Sarah Kernion for an open, honest, and uplifting dialogue about what it re…
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Grab your drink - coffee or something that packs a bigger punch! In this heartfelt episode, Sarah Kernion sits down with fellow autism Mom and friend, KC Artemenko to talk honestly about what it's really like to raise children with autism. Together, they open up about the deep emotional shifts that happen inside families, how hard (and beautiful) s…
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In this heart-to-heart episode of Inchstones, Sarah Kernion sits down with writer and fellow mom Jenna Jonaitis to talk about something we all need more of—but rarely give ourselves permission to embrace: realistic self-care. Together, they unpack the messy beauty of motherhood, laugh at the myth of bubble baths fixing everything, and explore how t…
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In this episode of the Inchstones podcast, host Sarah Kernion sits down with fellow autism moms Kat and Erica for a real, honest talk about what life is really like raising neurodivergent kids. Kat and Erica both have substantial Instagram followings and have formed community through sharing of their individual family's stories. Together, they open…
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In this powerful episode of Inchstones, Sarah Kernion sits down with Laurie Dove and her teenage daughter Lyla to talk about something often overlooked in the autism parenting conversation - the experience of siblings. What unfolds is an honest, emotional, and deeply thoughtful reflection on what it means to grow up alongside a sibling with autism.…
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Are you tired of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives that feel like lip service? In this powerful episode, we sit down with Melissa Ng Goldner, Head of Strategy at Coqual, to uncover how leading organizations are moving past performative DEI to create truly equitable and thriving workplaces. Melissa, a daughter of Chinese immigrants,…
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In this powerful episode of Inchstones, host Sarah Kernion talks with Michelle Dempsey-Multack, a co-parenting expert and fellow mom who deeply understands the emotional weight of divorce - especially when raising children with disabilities like nonspeaking autism and apraxia. Together, they dive into what it really feels like to co-parent when you…
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Katy Milkman is the James G. Dinan Professor at the Wharton School, the host of Charles Schwab's Choiceology podcast, and co-directs the Behavior Change for Good Initiative. Sophia Pink is a PhD student at the Wharton School studying decision-making and behavior change. They join Julie Kratz on the Allyship in Action podcast to discuss their new re…
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Sarah chats with Andrea Li, Senior Director of Global HR at Malin+Goetz, about how workplaces can better support neurodivergent employees. They dive into how company culture is shifting, the growing importance of empathy in HR, and what it really takes to create an environment where everyone feels seen and supported. Andrea shares her perspective o…
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Sarah welcomes writer and neurodiversity advocate Sunita Theiss to Inchstones for a real, no-filter chat about the ups and downs of parenting and finding your voice along the way. Sunita opens up about her journey through infertility, the emotional layers of raising neurodivergent children, and how hard—but important—it is to let yourself be seen i…
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This episode of the Allyship in Action Podcast with Julie Kratz features Charlene Polite Corley, Nielsen's VP of Diverse Insights and Partnerships, and Stacie De Armas, Senior Vice President of Diverse Intelligence & Initiatives at Nielsen. Together we discuss the long-term value of diversity for businesses, emphasizing that engaging historically e…
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Host Sarah Kernion sits down with writer and dad Greg Scaduto — a man who’s raising an incredible son named Teddy and writing his way through the beautiful chaos. From diaper duty to deep thoughts, Greg opens up about the emotional rollercoaster of fatherhood, the healing magic of a good community, and why love always beats a milestone chart. Expec…
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The Power of One Friend Who Gets It: In this episode, Sarah, Kristin, and Kasi dive into the messy, beautiful world of parenting kids with autism and developmental delays — but with a twist: the role friendship plays in survival. Kristin opens up about how being that one friend who showed up made all the difference. She became the bridge — connecti…
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Keivan Stassun is the Director of the Frist Center for Autism & Innovation at Vanderbilt University. He joins this week's Allyship in Action Podcast epidsode to unpack how to get the full ROI when appropriately practicing neuroinclusion. Key Takeaways Neurodiversity drives innovation and strengthens teams: Keivan's experience in astrophysics, parti…
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On this episode of Inchstones, Sarah Kernion sits down with Bridgett Burrek-Brown, the powerhouse behind Beyond Beauty Project, to talk about the curveballs life throws (spoiler: they're not always underhand). They dive into Bridgett’s real-talk journey — grief, body image battles, and the exhausting (and sometimes hilarious) work of figuring out w…
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Emily Kasriel is the author of Deep Listening: Transform your relationships with family, friends and foes. She joins the Allyship in Action Podcast this week to share insightful perspectives and practical tips on deep listening. Key takeaways from the conversation: Deep listening goes beyond active listening. It's not just about repeating or paraph…
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This episode of Inchstones invites you into the space where words fall away—and connection begins. Where autism defies logic... Host Sarah Kernion sits down with writer and intuitive communicator Demi Pietchell of "The Starfire Codes" to explore what it truly means to listen with all our senses. Through stories of raising non-speaking autistic chil…
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A conversation that arose from Sarah & Lena running into each other...literally. (Listen in to hear the funny story!) On this of the Inchstones podcast, Sarah Kernion and Lena Suarez-Angelino share their experiences as mothers of children with special needs. They discuss the profound connection they felt upon meeting, the challenges of navigating t…
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Chéla Gage returns to talk about her new non-profit 1,000,000 Fosters. She shares her journey and the impact she hopes to create in this week's episode. Chéla's journey to launching her nonprofit to support adults who have experienced foster care as youth. This initiative aims to provide transformative life and career coaching, foster personal grow…
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Let’s face it, motherhood is already a wild ride...but raising a non-speaking autistic child? It’s a masterclass in heart, humor, and not having it all figured out. In this episode of the Inchstones podcast, Sarah sits down with Heidi Rome to swap stories about the real parenting grind: the messy, beautiful journey of loving kids who communicate in…
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This week on the Allyship in Action Podcast, Julie Kratz is joined by Sona Khosla, Chief Impact Officer at Benevity. Inclusion is about having courage to keep doing good when it feels like the world's spinning the other way. And that's exactly what Sona and Julie dove into this week – this idea that even when the news is full of noise and doubt, th…
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Dr. Poornima Luthra is a professor at the Coopenhagen School of Business. She joins the Allyship in Action Podcast to discuss how to turn fear into fuel for positive change. We discuss what she calls "stealth mode DEI," and how to navigate these polarizing times from a global perspective. Key takeaways from our conversation: The Global Perspective …
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Knowing each other for over 2 decades, Sarah sits down with Trish, the Grateful Life Coach, for an episode that speaks directly to every overwhelmed, self-reflective, emotionally exhausted mama out there trying to hold it all together. Trish opens up about her journey as a woman, mother, and coach—sharing raw, relatable truths about how motherhood …
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Is your child melting down inside but magically calm near a puddle? You're not alone...and you're definitely going to want to listen to this episode. Host Sarah Kernion teams up with outdoor education favorite human - Amy Giannotti - to dive deep into the magic of nature for neurodivergent kids. From sensory-soothing streams to water therapy disgui…
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This episode is for every mom who’s ever cried in the Target parking lot after an IEP meeting. Chelsea Bray, a fellow NJ Mom who has her perfect son, Archie, gets real about her journey as an autism mom...from processing the diagnosis, finding her people, and realizing that parenting a neurodivergent kid isn’t about fixing them, it’s about seeing t…
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Brian K. Reaves is the EVP and Chief Belonging, Equity, and Impact Officer of UKG, where he leads the company’s global belonging, equity, and impact program, expanding existing initiatives while working to strengthen a culture built on trust, fairness, and equality, so every U Krewer can thrive in every stage of their career. In this episode of the…
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In this episode of the Inchstones podcast, host Sarah Kernion welcomes Dr. Suzanne Goh - neurologist, author, and founder of Cortica Care—for a compelling discussion on holistic and integrative approaches to autism care. Designed with behavior analysts and BCBAs in mind, this conversation delves into the role of genetic insights in case conceptuali…
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Music becomes a bridge where words fall short as Sarah Kernion welcomes renowned music therapist Jenn Goodman better known as Jammin’ Jenn to the Inchstones podcast. Jenn shares her evolution from aspiring Broadway performer to a transformative force in the lives of non-speaking autistic children. The conversation explores how music can unlock conn…
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Katryn Wright, a behavioral science expert, joins this week's episode of the Allyship in Action Podcast to share some fascinating insights. She reminds us that changing the world isn't about grand gestures, but those tiny, actionable tweaks in our everyday moments. Here are the key themes we explored: Behavioral Science as a Practical Tool: Moving …
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In this heartfelt episode of Inchstones, host Sarah Kernion sits down with Melanie Roman White, Center Director of The Uncommon Thread and former ABA preschool director for Sarah’s children, Milly and Mack. Together, they explore Mel’s path into early childhood education and ABA therapy, the power of recognizing small developmental milestones ("inc…
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Siri Chilazi, co-author of the brilliant new book, "Make Work Fair," joins us this week on the Allyship in Action podcast to translate academic research into simple, actionable steps leaders can take. We tackled the "myth of meritocracy," the power of norms, and how to actually embed fairness into our workplaces, not just talk about it. It’s not ju…
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The Power of the Sara(h)s! In this epispode of the Inchstones Podcast, host Sarah Kernion sits down with spiritual teacher and autism parent Sara Intonato to explore the deeply personal and often complex journey of parenting neurodivergent children. With raw honesty and spiritual insight, Sara shares how cultivating presence, self-regulation, and c…
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On this episode of the Allyship in Action podcast, Julie Kratz is joined by Dr. Angela Kingdon, Autistic Advocate and host of The Autistic Culture Podcast. Dr. Kingdon shares how life can throw you a curveball – like finding out you're autistic at 39! Angela's journey is a testament to the power of self-discovery and the importance of understanding…
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This one is for all the feels and laughs and everything in between. Host Sarah Kernion sits down with Kevin Spies—better known online as Grill Guy—to explore his powerful journey from special education teacher to full-time content creator. Kevin reflects on how fatherhood reshaped his career path and ignited his passion for building inclusive commu…
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The broken rung. It's that invisible hurdle, that subtle yet persistent barrier that keeps so many talented women from climbing the ladder. Think of it like trying to run a race with a shoelace tied to your ankle – you can still move, but you're definitely not at your full speed. Today, we're diving deep with Lareina Yee, a powerhouse from McKinsey…
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In this candid episode of Inchstones Podcast, host Sarah Kernion and fellow autism mom Casey open up about their lived experiences as mothers of children on the autism spectrum. With honesty, warmth, and humor, they explore the deep identity shifts that come with parenting neurodivergent children, and the emotional highs and lows of the journey. Th…
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In this landmark episode of Inchstones Podcast, host Sarah Kernion speaks with Glenna Crooks, the visionary school psychologist and national advocate who helped create the original Individualized Education Program (IEP)—a foundational component of special education in the United States. Glenna shares her powerful journey from her early days working…
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Do you ever wonder if you actually know how to have a great conversation? In this episode host Sarah Kernion and Bhakti, a communication expert, dive into the complexities of dialogue for special needs parents. They explore how emotional intelligence, curiosity, and facilitation skills can transform conversations with educators, therapists, and sup…
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Imagine stepping into a room, feeling like you're the only one wearing a different uniform. That's the "other" feeling, isn't it? It's a feeling I know well, and it's something Daniela Pierre Bravo explores with such raw honesty and grace. Like many of us, Daniela's journey is a tapestry of "firsts," resilience, and a whole lot of grit, woven toget…
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In this meaningful episode of Inchstones, host Sarah Kernion reconnects with Paige Rogers, one of her very first babysitters and now a dedicated kindergarten teacher, to discuss the intersection of neurodiversity and early childhood education. Paige shares how her early experiences caring for children, including Sarah’s own family, deeply influence…
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International Transgender Day of Visibility is celebrated annually on March 31 to celebrate the accomplishments and visibility of transgender people while raising awareness of discrimination faced by transgender people worldwide. This day is an opportunity to recognize the resilience and strength of transgender individuals and advocate for their eq…
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In this inspiring episode of Inchstones Podcast, host Sarah Kernion sits down with Shane Woods, CEO of Girlstart, to discuss how to ignite a passion for STEM education in young girls. Shane shares her experiences in fostering inclusive learning environments, the importance of female role models in STEM, and how curiosity and community can drive las…
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This week's episode features Josh Millet, the founder and CEO of Criteria. We dove deep into the world of evidence-based hiring, exploring how to make objective talent decisions that not only reduce bias but also drive better business outcomes. Josh shared some powerful insights about the common pitfalls in hiring, the importance of focusing on "st…
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In this heartfelt episode of Inchstones, host Sarah Kernion reconnects with Heather O’Neill, a Board Certified Behavior Analyst (BCBA) at Cortica ABA Center—and Milly’s very first therapist. Heather shares her journey into autism therapy and advocacy, discussing the evolving landscape of how children on the spectrum receive support. Sarah and Heath…
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In this episode of Inchstones, host Sarah Kernion sits down with Cait Donovan, a leading expert on burnout prevention and recovery, to discuss the unique emotional toll of parenting a child with special needs. Cait offers profound insights on caregivers' hidden stressors, the importance of grace and self-compassion, and why recognizing burnout earl…
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On today's episode of Allyship in Action, we're diving deep into the heart of purpose and well-being in the workplace with the insightful Jennifer Moss. Author of the brilliant book, "Why Are We Here?", Jennifer's work is a breath of fresh air tackling the often-overlooked aspects of what truly motivates us and how we can create a more fulfilling w…
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In this powerful episode of Inchstones Podcast, Harry Psaros shares his personal journey as a father navigating the emotional realities of raising a child with autism. He opens up about the challenges of receiving an autism diagnosis, the shift from uncertainty to acceptance, and the profound growth and empowerment that comes with embracing neurodi…
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