The AI/XR Podcast, co-hosted by producer Charlie Fink, who covers AI and XR for Forbes, Ted Schilowitz, media futurist and co-founder of Red Camera, and Rony Abovitz, founder Magic Leap, and the AI startup, Synthbee. The podcast starts with a hot take on the week's top tech news, followed by industry guests. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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The Glow Up - Fabulous conversations with innovative minds.
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Almost every founder is in a league of their own. It’s lonely at the top for founders and product leaders. It’s lonely in innovation - few people really understand what you do or can share relatable examples or advice. Welcome to The Glow Up - Fabulous conversations with innovative minds. I'm your host - Nathan C - founder of Awesome Future. Here at The Glow Up, we're on a mission to uplift and humaninze the world of startups and innovaiton by focussing on what really matters in the long ent ...
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Special Episode - Charlie Fink with Artur Sychov recorded in Prague on June 4th
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1:06:13Recorded in Prague, this special episode of the AI/XR Podcast features Charlie Fink in conversation with Somnium Space founder and CEO Artur Sychov. Charlie test-drives the $3,500 Somnium VR1 headset—so sharp it out-resolves human vision—and the two dive into the future of immersive tech. Artur lays out his no-nonsense definition of the metaverse: …
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The AI/XR Podcast July 25th, 2025 ft. Bilawal Sidhu, former Google Maps PM, TED AI curator, and generative AI media pioneer
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50:15In Episode 250 of the AI/XR Podcast, Charlie Fink, Ted Schilowitz, and Rony Abovitz are joined by Bilawal Sidhu, former Google Maps PM, TED AI curator, and generative AI media pioneer. The hosts discuss Trump’s executive orders on AI and censorship, South Park's viral Trump satire, and the emerging ethics of deep fakes. Sidhu shares his journey fro…
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Making Future Interpersonal Connections More Engaging with AI - Cathy Hackl
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29:04Cathy Hackl, renowned futurist and CE “Godmother of the Metaverse,” is at the forefront of exploring how AI and immersive technologies are transforming human relationships, intimacy, and connection. In this episode, Cathy shares her personal experiments dating AI “boyfriends,” her vision for the future of dating, and why she believes technology can…
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Special Digital Hollywood Episode, guest are director Rob Minkoff (The Lion King), filmmaker and AI specialist Ellenor Argyropoulos, and writer-director John MacInnes
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57:22On this special Digital Hollywood episode of The AI/XR Podcast, hosts Charlie Fink, Rony Abovitz, and Ted Schilowitz are joined by director Rob Minkoff (The Lion King), filmmaker and AI specialist Ellenor Argyropoulos, and writer-director John MacInnes for a candid discussion on the upheaval AI is bringing to Hollywood. The panelists agree that whi…
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The AI/XR Podcast July 18th, 2025 ft. Christopher Summerfield, a researcher from Google DeepMind and author of 'These Strange New Minds.
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46:45In this episode of the AIXR podcast, Charlie Fink, Ted Schilowitz, and Roni Abovitz engage in a deep conversation with Christopher Summerfield, a researcher from Google DeepMind and author of 'These Strange New Minds.' They discuss the latest developments in AI, ethical considerations, the role of AI in society, and the implications of AGI. The con…
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The AI/XR Podcast July 11th, 2025 ft. Ananya Chadha, Founder of Quander.co
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49:51On this week’s AI/XR Podcast, Charlie Fink and Rony Abovitz welcome Ananya Chadha, founder of Quander.co, a startup building AI-powered marketing agents for businesses of all sizes. Chadha, a Stanford grad with experience at Neuralink and IBM, is betting that distribution—more than product—is the defining challenge for small and large businesses in…
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Making VR Profitable and Leading Emerging Technology for the Enterprise - Alex Rühl
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36:04Alex Rühl is an award-winning immersive creator, technologist, and innovation leader whose career spans VR content creation, enterprise consulting, and emerging technology strategy. As founder of Cats Are Not Peas and former Head of Emerging Tech at PwC, Alex has helped shape how global organizations adopt and scale immersive technologies. Key Take…
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Re-Wiring Our Relationship with the Nervous System to Drive Growth - Megan Moseley
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20:52Megan Moseley is a somatic therapist and embodiment coach at BodyWise, with a 36-year background in physical therapy and extensive training in somatic psychology, interpersonal neurobiology, nervous system resiliency, trauma release exercise, and embodiment coaching. She integrates these disciplines to help individuals and organizations shift from …
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The AI/XR Podcast June 27th, 2025 ft. Randy Marsden, former Apple exec and co-founder of Skidattl
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51:04This week’s AI/XR Podcast featured Randy Marsden, former Apple exec and co-founder of Skidattl, an AR platform for creating geo-anchored virtual signage. Charlie, Rony, and Ted discussed Apple’s AI strategy, Tim Cook criticism, and Skedaddle’s potential as a practical AR utility that doesn’t rely on headsets or complex tools. In the news: Anthropic…
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The AI/XR Podcast June 20th, 2025 ft. Scott Stein, contributing editor at CNET.
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53:05In this episode of The AI/XR Podcast, the hosts are joined by Scott Stein, contributing editor at CNET, to discuss the evolution of XR devices and the implications of spatial computing. In the news, Disney and Universal sued Midjourney, which has just released an AI image-to-video model to its subscribers. Google's Veo 3 excels at simulating AI vlo…
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Trying to Make a Nickel with Tech and Stories — Charlie Fink Pt. 2
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22:17Part Two: Charlie Fink is a veteran of the extended reality (XR) and tech media industries, known for his Forbes column, the AI/XR Podcast, having attended AWE (Augmented World Expo) nine times, written three books, and taught as a professor at Chapman University. His work now blends XR, AI, and storytelling, with a focus on what’s new and breaking…
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The AI/XR Podcast June 11th, 2025. AWE *LIVE* 245th episode
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42:10*Warning* Bad sound quality - apologies! In this special live edition of the AI/XR Podcast from Augmented World Expo (AWE) 2025, hosts Charlie Fink and Ted Schilowitz are joined by returning guests from Zappar, co-founders Connell Gauld (CTO) and Casper Thykier (CEO) and Auki Labs' CEO Nils Phil, to explore how AI and spatial computing are merging …
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Trying to Make a Nickel with Tech and Stories — Charlie Fink Pt. 1
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25:13Charlie Fink is a leading voice in the world of innovation, extended reality (XR), and technology storytelling. Best known for his Forbes column, the AI/XR Podcast, and a decades-long career spanning Disney Animation, AOL, and multiple startups, Charlie shares his insider’s journey from the VHS era of Disney classics to the frontlines of AI-generat…
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The AI/XR Podcast June 6th, 2025 ft. Bryn Mooser, founder of Asteria Studio
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56:49In the latest episode of The AI/XR Podcast, the discussion is focused on the intersection of artificial intelligence (AI) and filmmaking, highlighted by insights from industry entrepreneur Bryn Mooser, founder of Asteria Studio. The news segment begins with an overview of Meta's shift towards automating ad creation, raising concerns over the potent…
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Solving the Problem of Fragmented, Unstructured Customer Insights - Dwayne King
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23:37Dwayne King is the CEO and Co-Founder of Rutabaga, a startup building a decision intelligence engine that turns fragmented, unstructured customer insights into actionable knowledge accessible across the organization. Rutabaga’s mission is to help companies become genuinely customer-centric by eliminating the barriers between scattered data, institu…
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Understanding the Brain and Unlocking Human Performance with 3D Tools - Johnny Hartman
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30:20Johnny Hartman is the founder and CEO of Vision Systems, a company pioneering the use of advanced 3D visualization and neurotechnology to better understand the brain and unlock human performance. Drawing on his background in both neuroscience and immersive technology, Johnny is building tools that allow researchers, clinicians, and athletes to visu…
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The AI/XR Podcast May 23rd, 2025 ft. Angela Dunning, an attorney at Cleary Gottlieb specializing in AI and copyrights.
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52:18Rony and Ted welcome Angela Dunning, an attorney at Cleary Gottlieb specializing in AI and copyrights. With Charlie on vacation, they switched up the format, bringing Angela in at the top of the show, lacing news tidbits throughout. The big news this week was Google I/O, highlighting the $250/month Gemini Ultra model and the Veo 3 video generation …
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AI-driven Healthcare Transformation - Patty Hayward Talkdesk
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37:09Patty Hayward is the General Manager of Healthcare and Life Sciences at Talkdesk, where she leads innovation at the intersection of AI, technology, and patient experience for healthcare organizations. Key Takeaways Deep Personal Motivation: Patty’s passion for patient experience stems from her family’s struggle navigating complex healthcare for her…
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The AI/XR Podcast May 16th, 2025 ft. Ori Inbar co-founder and CEO of AWE
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45:02This week the hosts dive into the Trump's AI tour of the middle east, funding news for Gen-AI companies, and gen-AI in the metaverse (Meta's builder bot is back!), Roblox adds ecommerce, and VRChat an avatar shop where users can sell unique creations, This led to a conversation about the pioneering role of Second Life. Our guest is Ori Inbar, CEO o…
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The AI/XR Podcast May 9th, 2025 ft. Nikola Todorovic, co-founder of Wonder Dynamics
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52:47In the latest episode of "The AI/XR Podcast," the hosts welcomed Nikola Todorovic, co-founder of Wonder Dynamics, to discuss key developments in the entertainment and technology sectors. The conversation began with insights into Netflix's new vertical video content strategy and the evolving role of devices in content consumption. The hosts then exp…
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Creating an Ecosystem of Value for the Future of Education - Julie Smithson
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31:07Julie Smithson is the CEO of MetaVRse and co-founder of 6ix Ventures, a mission-driven family of companies building an ecosystem for the next generation of educational innovation. Recognized as a pioneering entrepreneur, Julie brings a unique blend of hands-on experience from launching 200+ immersive projects and a personal commitment to preparing …
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The AI/XR Podcast May 2nd, 2025 ft. Joan Bajorek, author of Your AI Roadmap
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48:28In the latest episode of the AI/XR Podcast, the hosts engage in a dynamic panel discussion featuring guest Joan Bajorek, author of Your AI Roadmap. The conversation opens with a recap of recent corporate earnings, highlighting Meta's success and the competitive landscape involving Microsoft, Google, and Apple. Bajorek shares her personal experience…
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Helping Small Businesses in the Heartland Grow in the AI Age - Ashley Coffey
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31:38Ashley Coffey is the CEO of Coffey and Consult and host of the Coffey and Code podcast. She specializes in bridging the gap between technology and people, helping small and medium-sized businesses—especially in Oklahoma and the Midwest—leverage emerging technologies like AI for efficiency, profitability, and empowerment. Key Takeaways: Making Tech …
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The AI/XR Podcast April 25th, 2025 ft. Sam Liang, founder & CEO, Otter.ai
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51:48In this episode, hosts Charlie Fink, Rony Abovitz, and Ted Schilowitz discuss viral AI-generated media and concerns over synthetic content verification. They touch on identity theft issues arising from unauthorized use of voices in AI avatars. The conversation shifts to Infinite Reality’s controversial $3 billion funding claim, which Forbes investi…
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Building Startup Brands that Provide Value, Faster - Melissa Hollis
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36:08Melissa Hollis is the CEO and co-founder of Taylor Street Collective, a marketing and go-to-market strategy firm focused on helping startups and startup-adjacent service providers clarify their messaging and accelerate their growth. With a background as the “vicarious entrepreneur,” Melissa has built her career by becoming the first marketing hire …
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The AI/XR Podcast April 18th, 2025 ft. Adam Draper, Boost VC
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1:01:19In the latest episode of "The AI/XR Podcast," hosts Charlie, Rony, and Ted welcome Adam Draper of Boost VC. First we dive into pressing industry news, including Google’s monopoly verdict and OpenAI’s user base. Adam shared his investment philosophy focused on making small pre-seed bets to minimize risk while highlighting innovative ventures like Pr…
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Building a Microbial Metaverse to Teach Health Sciences in VR with Visual and Kinesthetic Learning
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47:16Dr. Jane Harrington is the CEO and Co-founder of Med Micro Maps, a company developing virtual reality experiences to teach microbiology and infectious disease concepts. Key Takeaways: Med Micro Maps uses VR to create immersive, mission-based games for life science learners to explore viruses and bacteria. The company's approach combines color-codin…
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The AI/XR Podcast April 11th, 2025 ft. John Gaeta, CEO Escape.ai
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49:11In the latest episode of "The AI/AR Podcast," hosts Charlie Fink and Ted Schilowitz welcomed John Gaeta to discuss his innovative project, Escape AI, which serves as a platform for emerging creators using cutting-edge technologies like game engines and generative AI. Gaeta described how Neo Cinema represents a new wave of storytelling that gives sp…
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Using AI & Lab Data to Improve and Personalize Healthcare – Julie Schulz, MD and Mike Dovidio
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31:42Julie Schulz and Mike Dovidio are innovators at Avalon Healthcare Solutions, focusing on using lab data and AI to improve healthcare outcomes, particularly in managing GLP1 medications and addressing rising healthcare costs. Key Takeaways: Avalon uses lab values data to help improve the quality and cost-effectiveness of care, especially in laborato…
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The AI/XR Podcast April 4th, 2025 ft Patty Rangel, Producer, Impact Investor, and Futurist
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56:52In this episode Charlie and Ted celebrate reaching over a million downloads before diving into news which includes OpenAI’s $40B raise and $300B valuation, Runway’s "paltry" $380M in funding, the fate of TikTok, and the rapid evolution of cinematic AI. Our guest is futurist, producer, and investor Patty Rangel, who recounts her journey from theater…
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The AI/XR Podcast March 28th, 2025 ft. Nils Phil, CEO of Auki Labs, and Caspar Thykier, CEO of Zappar
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51:11This week on the AI/XR Podcast, Charlie, Rony, and Ted welcome Nils Pihl, CEO of Auki Labs, and Caspar Thykier, CEO of Zappar, to discuss a massive retail rollout in of indoor virtual positioning systems in Sweden. In the news, OpenAI’s $12B revenue and projected $125B by 2029 set off fireworks. Rony floats Sam Altman as Tim Cook’s successor. Charl…
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The AI/XR Podcast March 21st, 2025 ft. Bob Cooney, Author, Futurist, Preeminent Expert in Location-Based Entertainmen
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49:44This week Charlie and Ted welcome an old friend, Bob Cooney, the world's preeminent expert in location-based entertainment, who has just wrapped his own VR Arcade and Attractions Summit in Las Vegas. He's particularly excited by the portable MR theme park being developed by Brent Bushnell (Two Bit Circus), who keynoted the show. In the news, Big te…
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The AI/XR Podcast March 14th, 2025 ft. David Nussbaum, founder and Chairman, Proto
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47:02In the latest episode of the AIXR Pod, the team engages in a dynamic discussion about SXSW. Guest David Nussbaum, founder and Chairman of Proto, an innovative holographic technology The podcast kicks off with a recap of South by Southwest, where Ted and Charlie dissect the event's diminishing impact and highlight noteworthy XR experiences, includin…
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The AI/XR Podcast March 7th, 2025 ft. SXSW Programmers Blake Kammerdiner (XR) and Katie Perera (AI)
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46:15On the opening day of SXSW 2025, the hosts are joined by SXSW Programmers Blake Kammerdiner (XR) and Katie Perera (AI) to get a preview of the conference and exhibition, an annual part of our podcast, which turns 5 in July. In the news, Google's new AI search puts the search giant in competition - with itself; MWC wrap up featured the upcoming Sams…
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The AI/XR Podcast February 28th, 2025 ft. Cecilia Shen, CEO of Cybever
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50:02This week we welcome Cecilia Shen, CEO of Cybever, an AI-powered 3D creation platform that leverages advanced layout algorithms to enable industries to build professional-grade, production-ready environments for industrial simulations. The Metaverse was in the news this week, with the launch of HTC's Viverse (now we know what they're doing with the…
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The AI/XR Podcast February 21st, 2025 ft. Naeem Talukdar, CEO Moonvalley AI
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49:17This week we welcome Naeem Talukdar, CEO Moonvalley AI, whose company is building a "clean" generative video model, trained exclusively on licensed video content. In the news, Niantic is selling its Pokemon Go business. The failed Humane Pin, a great idea with shockingly bad execution, is sold to HP for $116M for parts and patents, and Microsoft in…
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The AI/XR Podcast February 14th, 2025 ft. Ann Hand, CEO Super League
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52:42Our guest this week is Ann Hand, CEO of Super League, a brand agency specializing in game platforms like Roblox and Fortnite. The news this week starts with an ironic twist: first people who are losing jobs to AI are people who work in tech. Also, tech's super bowl commercials barely made a sound. Super League started as a platform for eSports mark…
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The AI/XR Podcast February 7th, 2025 ft. Sean Mann, CEO RP1
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49:41Charlie, Ted, and Rony welcome Sean Mann, CEO of RP1, whose Metaverse browser can support hundreds of thousands of unique users in a spatial environment. It's earning week in the tech world and the outlook for 2025, after two years of hypergrowth, is downright conservative. Love for Meta's money printing machine continued, despite continued losses …
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Charlie, Rony & Ted are guestless today. It happens. It was a busy news week. First up, Deepseek. Their model may have been trained on OpenAI. Stealing from the thieves, he called it. Big financing deals we announced this week: Softbank is investing $500 M in Skild Robotics, and Eleven Labs (AI Voices) raised $250 M. Marcus Brownlee takes the new S…
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Using Data & AI to Expand Access to Care & Make Better Patient Experiences – Dr. Colin Banas
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28:32Dr. Colin Banas is the Chief Medical Officer at DrFirst, a company focused on end-to-end medication management. Here's a summary of the key points from his interview: Key Takeaways: DrFirst aims to get patients on therapy and keep them on therapy through frictionless medication management processes. The company uses data and AI to personalize patie…
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The AI/XR Podcast January 24th, 2025 ft. Elizabeth Baron, Senior Advisor, Intelligent Immersive Simulation, UNMC iEXCEL
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49:21Charlie and Ted welcome Elizabeth Baron, who at Ford Motor Company led Immersive Simulation for Product Development, where she combined design, engineering and manufacturing digital twins together for a holistic review of vehicles. She then moved to the University of Nebraska iEXCEL, where she is leading Intelligent Immersive Simulation to bring AI…
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XR Education & Creating Accessible Concerts - Adrian Rashad Driscoll
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36:12Adrian Rashad Driscoll is the CEO of Collimation and a top 100 XR expert focused on storytelling through immersive technologies. Here's a summary of the key points from his interview: Key Takeaways: Driscoll emphasizes using XR technology to create impactful, empathetic stories rather than just for gimmicks. He developed "Footprints Through Time," …
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The AI/XR Podcast January 17th, 2025 ft. Ashley Crowder, CEO Vntana
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53:27This week the hosts welcome Ashley Crowder, CEO of Vntana, which manages CAD drawings and other 3D assets for companies in industries as diverse as fashion and concrete. The news segment was focused on the imminent shut down of TikTok, and rumors Elon will announce a deal to buy the platform before the deadline Sunday night. Biden mentioned tech ol…
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Creating the Marketing of Tomorrow with Emergence Platforms – Nic Hill
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29:18Nic Hill is the co-founder and head of the interactive department at Sawhorse Productions, a creative agency that focuses on innovative brand storytelling through immersive and interactive technologies. Key Takeaways: Sawhorse evolved from a traditional film production company to a creative agency specializing in branded content and immersive exper…
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The AI/XR Podcast January 10th, 2025 ft. Dean Takahasi, Lead writer for VentureBeat and GamesBeat
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59:23This week our guest is esteemed journalist Dean Takahasi, dean of tech writers, who helps us analyze this year's CES. News topics on our minds were the LA fires, which have personally affected Charlie and Ted, Meta's big announcement on content moderation, free speech, and Jensen Huang's Nvidia keynote, which promised a new AI-capable personal comp…
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Current Barriers to Entry Sideline Spatial Creators - Amir Baradaran - Niloom Ai
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29:26Amir Baradaran is the founder of Niloom, a company focused on making augmented reality (AR) content creation more accessible through a no-code platform powered by generative AI. Key Takeaways: Current barriers to AR content creation include technical complexity, high costs, and time-consuming processes. Niloom aims to democratize AR creation by pro…
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The AI/XR Podcast January 3rd, 2025 ft. Gary Shapiro, CEO of CES
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53:47Charlie, Ted, and Rony have a wide-ranging preview of CES 2025 and what to expect from the coming year from Gary Shapiro, CEO of the Consumer Technology Association which owns CES. To be sure, we'll be seeing a lot more AI in everything. Mobility, robotics, drones, wearables and healthtech are going to have a strong presence this year as well. Gary…
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Helping People Find Where They Belong in the Next Internet - Dr. Muhsinah Morris, Metaverse United
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26:04Dr. Muhsinah Morris is the founder of Metaverse United, a professor, advocate, mom, and STEM innovator focused on lowering barriers to entry into the next iteration of the web, including extended reality technologies and AI-powered virtual worlds. Key Takeaways: Metaverse United trains educators on using AI and XR effectively in education and devel…
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From HLTH 2024: How Innovation in Health Records Makes More Organized Doctors, Better Patient Care - Sandra Johnson
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19:51Sandra Johnson is the Senior Vice President of Client Services at CliniComp, an EHR provider with 40 years of experience in the healthcare technology space. CliniComp is launching its first full EHR solution suite for the commercial market, focusing on providing integrated solutions that offer a holistic view of patient care across various healthca…
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From HLTH 2024: Getting Bold About Brain Health - Dr John Showalter - Linus Health
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20:03Dr. John Showalter is the Chief Strategy Officer at Linus Health, a company focused on early detection of cognitive impairment and dementia. They develop digital cognitive assessments and engagement tools to help people think about their brain health, get diagnosed, and receive lifestyle medicine suggestions.Key Takeaways: Linus Health modernized t…
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