Your weekly window into how the most impactful moments in politics unfold. From the Oval Office to the Clinton campaign war room to the hallowed halls of Congress to Maryland's Governor's Mansion, we bring you inside the rooms where the biggest decisions are made. Hosted by a couple of college kids still trying to learn how things get done in this complicated yet beautiful world of American politics.
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Don Graves, Former Dep. Sec. of Commerce, "We Have the Most Effective Government in the World"
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33:09Welcome back flies!! It’s the end of another great semester here at Georgetown which means it’s the season finale of The Fly! What a better way to end the season than with GU Politics Fellow Don Graves! Graves served as the 19th Deputy Secretary of Commerce under the Biden-Harris Administration from May 2021 to January 2025. He previously served as…
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Heather Nauert, Former State Department Spokesperson: "Newscasters Are At Their Best in a Crisis"
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23:40Hi Flies! Welcome back to a brand new episode! It’s finals season here at Georgetown, but that doesn’t mean we can’t give you a great new episode! This week, Abigail and Julian sat down with Heather Nauert, a Spring 2025 GU Politics Fellow. Nauert is a journalist and former spokesperson for the State Department. She began her career as a broadcast …
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Quentin Fulks, Principal Deputy Campaign Manager, Biden/Harris & Harris/Walz, "The Landscape is Changing"
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37:08Have you heard the buzz? We’re back with a brand new episode! This week, Chloe and Sarah sat down with one of the foremost American campaign managers and political strategists, Quentin Fulks! Quentin has played an instrumental role in the Democratic Party. He served as Principal Deputy Campaign manager for both the Biden/Harris and Harris/Walz 2024…
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Tony Fabrizio, Chief Pollster, Donald Trump for President: 'Nothing Works Better Than a Candidate's Own Words'
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51:58Hello flies!! Welcome back to a brand new episode!! It’s cherry blossom season in D.C, and time for another great episode with an all-star guest!! This week, Kenneth and Julian sat down with Tony Fabrizio, a Spring 2025 GU Politics Fellow! Fabrizio was the Chief Pollster for Donald Trump for President in 2024, 2020, and 2016. He has helped elect Pr…
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Cecilia Kang, NYT Technology Correspondent: 'Color, Color Color! Show, Don't Tell.'
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42:23Happy St. Patrick’s Day flies! Buzzing in with a brand new episode, just as lucky as a pot of gold ☘️Join Abigail and Chloe as they sit down with Cecilia Kang, an award-winning Technology Correspondent at The New York Times, with unique expertise in the intersection of technology and public policy. She has broken news that led to regulatory investi…
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Meg Kinnard, AP National Politics Reporter: 'When We Cover Politics, We Leave Ourselves at the Door'
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36:06Hello flies! Welcome back to a brand new season of The Fly! We are so excited to kick start this season with a very special guest, Meg Kinnard! Meg is a national politics reporter with a 20 year career at The Associated Press. She anchored the first-ever general election livestream coverage for the AP, and was also the first AP reporter to appear o…
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Sen. Laphonza Butler: "The union taught me advocacy"
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25:13Welcome back flies! This week we are buzzing back in with a special edition episode featuring California’s outgoing senator Laphonza Butler! Reporting from the Hart Building of the Senate Office, sit down with Will and Sarah as they dive into Butler’s expansive political journey- growing up in Mississippi, graduating from the HBCU Jackson Universit…
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2024 Election Special Pt 3 ft. Rick Wiley, Sarah Mucha, Reed Howard, and Liam Richichi
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1:13:20In the final episode of The Fly's Post-Election Analysis Special, Andrea Smith brings together a diverse set of voices to unpack the results of this year’s election. With a deep dive into what led to the GOP's red wave, Andrea first sits down with Rick Wiley, a seasoned Republican strategist who shares insights on the winning message that propelled…
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Ashley Gunn: “We are more alike than we are different”
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26:49Today we are buzzing back in with GU politics fellow Ashley Gunn! Gunn has not only served as a special assistant to the president, the senior director of cabinet affairs for Donald Trump’s administration, but she had worked the behind the scenes of every republican convention since 1991. Tune in to this episode to hear more about Ashley’s take on …
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2024 Election Special Pt 2 ft. Symone Sanders-Townsend
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46:53We are incredibly honored to bring to you a very special, 2-part episode. Today, all across the country, Americans are voting in one of the most consequential and unique elections in American history. From the near assassination of Former President Donald Trump to President Biden passing the baton to Vice President Kamala Harris, the first Black an…
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2024 Election Special (Part 1) - ft. Sarah Mucha and Reed Howard
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46:29In part one of our election special, Senior Fly Andrea Smith sits down with former CNN embed Sarah Mucha and Reed Howard, Chief Public Affairs Officer for The Future Caucus. Together, they dive into the fascinating world of swing state voters, focusing on groups like Nikki Haley supporters in Pennsylvania and Gen Zers in Michigan. You’ll get an ins…
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Mary Beth Tinker: "History will look back and wonder, what did you do?"
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35:07NEW week, NEW episode! 🪰This week, we sat down with the acclaimed American free speech activist Mary Beth Tinker!Tinker is renowned in classrooms and courtrooms alike for her role in the 1969 Supreme Court case Tinker v. Des Moines, which solidified students’ right to free speech. In this exciting new episode, she walks us through her experience wi…
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Rick Wiley: "With time, you just keep moving"
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34:24Welcome back to The Fly! There’s no better way to kick off Season 16 than with Rick Wiley, a seasoned GOP political strategist and Spring 2024 GU Politics Fellow. Rick has worked behind the scenes of some of the most high-profile political campaigns in the U.S., most notably as the National Political Director for Ambassador Nikki Haley's presidenti…
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Dr. Anthony Fauci: "We could see the tsunami in the distance"
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48:17Welcome back to the Fly! There is no better way to end the season than with Dr. Fauci. As leader of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases for 38 years, he has been on the frontline of nearly every major disease since the 1980s. His research and dedication have helped save tens of millions of lives. As Dr. Fauci has been widely c…
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Allegra Kirkland and Waleed Shahid: “Don’t count out the youth vote”
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23:07Welcome back, flies! We have a very special episode this week, because we have not one but two guests!! First, we sat down with Waleed Shahid, a Senior Democratic Strategist and former Spokesperson for Justice Democrats, about the future of the Democratic party, including "The Squad." Next, we sat down with Allegra Kirkland, the politics director f…
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Laura Barrón-López: “Reporting the truth is not always going to make people happy”
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40:10This week flies sat down with the PBS NewsHour White House Correspondent and CNN Analyst Laura Barrón-López. Laura is a rising star in journalism who knew she wanted to be a journalist since she was 12. She began in local journalism in California early in her college career and, after graduation, moved to DC after receiving an opportunity to be a r…
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Dan Lamothe, Pentagon Correspondent: “There is always a deeper story worth telling”
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28:03Buzz buzz… sit down with fellow flies Kenneth and Sarah to listen to an engaging conversation with Pentagon Correspondent and the Washington Post’s National Security writer Dan Lamothe. In this episode, Dan discusses how he made his foray into the world of journalism, starting with local reporting and moving toward covering the U.S. military, its p…
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Val Demings, Former US Representative: "Out of the ashes, I do believe good things can evolve"
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46:52We are zooming in with another incredible interview! Val Demings is a profile in public service. Demings was Orlando’s first woman Chief of Police and served as the Congresswoman for FL-10, where she was a house impeachment manager for Donald Trump’s first impeachment and was there that day on January 6th. She was also on President Biden’s shortlis…
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Machalagh Carr, Speaker McCarthy's Chief of Staff: "It was the ride of a lifetime"
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35:37Welcome back to another incredible episode. This week, Flys sat down with Machalagh Carr, former Chief of Staff to Kevin McCarthy. Carr is an experienced legal counselor who served as General Counsel for the Speaker and office of the Republican Leader. Additionally, she has held numerous roles across a number of congressional oversight committees. …
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Deanne Millison, Former Chief Economic Advisor: “It’s a Patience Game”
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31:10Welcome back! Here to start off our season: Chase and Sarah joined our very first fellow, Deanne Millison! They had a lively conversation about Deanne’s experience starting off in law school and transitioning into the political sphere. Hear more about Millison’s roles as the Chief Economic Advisor for Vice President Harris, her work with the impeac…
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Brad Raffensperger, GA Secretary of State: "There's Something True about Southern Hospitality"
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27:13Hello Flies, and welcome back! It's a new year and time for a new season of The Fly! We have an exciting roundup of Fellows and guests this season and can't wait to get started. For our very first episode, Chase and Julian sat down with Brad Raffensperger, the Georgia Secretary of State. They had a fascinating conversation about election security, …
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Brenda Gianiny, President of Axis Research Inc.: "Voters Want Another Choice"
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35:49Hello flies! We’re buzzing into Thanksgiving break with a brand new episode! This week flies interviewed Brenda Gianiny, President of Axis Research Inc. and a Republican pollster for notable Republicans such as Liz Cheney, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Mitch McConnell, Bush-Cheney 04, and more! We talked about Brenda’s experience as a pollster and how iss…
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Emily Horne, Fmr. Spokesperson, National Security Council: "The Changing World Order"
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37:46Welcome back, flies! As Thanksgiving approaches, we have another great episode for you with one of our GU Politics fellows! This week, we sat down with Emily Horne, the Former Spokesperson for the National Security Council under the Biden Administration. She also is the Former Head of Global Policy Communications at Twitter, and the Founder and CEO…
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Craig Minassian, Consultant of The Daily Show: “Comedy is the conscience of the people”
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30:59Buzz buzz, fellow flies! This week’s episode features another GU Politics Fellow, Craig Minassian! Darius and Sarah dive into Craig’s journey of merging the seemingly distant realms of politics and entertainment. Tune in to hear more about Craig’s experience as a producer and consultant for Comedy Central, MTV, ABC, and ESPN, working with Stephen C…
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Joe Hack, Former Senate Chief Of Staff: “I’m a radical incrementalist”
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24:06Hello Flies! Welcome back to another episode! This week, we sat down with another GU Politics Fellow, Joe Hack! Hack graduated from Georgetown in 2009, so we were happy to welcome him back to the hilltop! Hack is the Former U.S. Senate Chief of Staff (Sen. Fischer, R-Neb.), as well as a Senior VP for The Daschle Group and the CEO of Swann Street Co…
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Gabe Fleisher, Founder of Wake Up to Politics: “Listen to your audience”
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31:04On this week’s episode, the flies buzzed into an exciting conversation with Georgetown senior Gabe Fleisher, the founder and editor-in-chief of the daily political newsletter Wake Up to Politics. Gabe discussed his experience with starting the newsletter, his coolest experiences as a reporter, and the accessibility of political news. He also shared…
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Nia-Malika Henderson - CNN Senior Political Reporter: "We need to do better"
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34:06In this episode, the flies sat down with Nia-Malika Henderson, CNN Senior Political Analyst and GU Politics Fellow. She discussed everything from the challenges of being a black queer woman in the media industry today, to the fallbacks the media had in covering the Obama and Trump administrations, to the significant changes she has witnessed over t…
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Ron Klain, Former White House Chief of Staff: “Look for places where you can bring people together”
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31:00We are buzzing into a new season with an interview with former White House Chief of Staff Ron Klain! Beginning working with President Joe Biden in 1988, Klain has nearly four decades of experience serving all three branches of government and the private sector. His unmatched expertise was tested in the first two years of the Biden Administration as…
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Former MD Governor Larry Hogan: "Successful Politics Is About Addition"
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29:03Welcome back! For the season finale, we sat down with former Maryland Governor Larry Hogan. Hogan shared his experience during his time as governor, his political career, the future of the Republican Party in Maryland, and more. It's been a fantastic season and year with The Fly, and we can't thank all of our listeners enough for tuning in every we…
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Host of Left, Right, & Center David Greene: "Always be ready to take a detour"
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40:42In this episode of The Fly, we sat down with David Greene, host of Left, Right, & Center, and a former co-host of NPR’s Morning Edition. David shared s his experiences reporting in Libya during the Arab Spring and in Ukraine last year. The flies also had an honest discussion with him about the current polarization of news and lessons we can learn m…
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President of AEI Robert Doar: "We provide a platform"
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43:59In this exciting episode, the flies sat down with Robert Doar, the President of the American Enterprise Institute and a highly respected public policy expert. The conversation surrounded all things about think tanks in America and the role they have in affecting legislation. This is surely an episode you do not want to miss out on, so grab a snack …
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Former US Representative (VA-02) Elaine Luria: “Members of Congress have a large microphone”
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31:22This week, Will and Kelvin sat down with Elaine Luria, a former United States representative for Virginia's Second Congressional District. She covered the day-to-day life of a member of Congress, recent ideas of isolationism, defense spending, and the differences in serving under the past two presidencies. This is an episode you won't want to miss,…
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CNN Washington Bureau Chief Sam Feist: "It's more important to be right than first"
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43:41For this week’s special episode, the flies sat down with Sam Feist, Washington Bureau Chief and Senior Vice President for CNN. Given his incredible experience in the broadcast industry having won multiple Emmy awards and overseeing multiple of the most watched political shows in history, the flies had an engaging conversation with him about his wor…
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Former Georgia Senate Runoff Director Jonae Wartel: "Demographics Aren't Destiny"
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38:16On this week’s episode, Austin and Kenneth sat down with Jonae Wartel, an activist and organizer. She’s the former Georgia Senate Runoff Director and a current partner at Arc Initiatives. Now she’s a 2023 Spring GU Politics Fellow! This episode covers the difference between the two recent Georgia Senate runoff races, the importance of on-the-ground…
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Snapchat's Good Luck America Host Peter Hamby: "Appealing to a generational audience"
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46:25This week, we sat down with Peter Hamby, the host of Snapchat's "Good Luck America" and contributing writer for Puck News and Vanity Fair. After getting his master's in journalism at Georgetown, Hamby started his career at CNN and has worked at Snapchat since 2015. In this episode, the flies discuss the legitimacy of social media news, and how to a…
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Political Analyst Chris Stirewalt: "Many people don't ask the right questions"
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32:27In this flytastic episode of The Fly, the flies sat down with Chris Stirewalt, Senior Fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, weekly columnist for The Dispatch, political editor at NewsNation, and GU Politics Fellow. In the episode, Chris spoke about his journey in the journalism industry, the current polarization of the media, and much more! …
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Larry Hogan's Comms Director Michael Ricci: "You have to be constantly changing and adapting"
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32:17The flies are back with the second episode of Season 13! This week, we sat down with Michael Ricci, the Director of Communications for Governor Larry Hogan, and former Director of Communications for Paul Ryan. In this conversation, Ricci shared his day-to-day as a Republican Communications Director, as well as his experience during a public health …
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CNN Senior White House Correspondent MJ Lee: "I am not your sort of typical journalist."
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38:35The flies are kicking off Season 13 with MJ Lee, Senior White House Correspondent for CNN. In this conversation, MJ shared her experience as an Asian American Journalist having grown up in Hong Kong and now reporting on American politics. She discussed her investigative reporting covering the #MeToo movement in DC and her reporting on the campaign …
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Season 13 is coming soon, but first, we have a very special announcement. We are changing our name to "The Fly" to better reflect the work we do and podcast we produce!By Georgetown's Institute of Politics and Public Service
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Ro Khanna: "We Have a Strong Platform on Sticking Up for Democracy"
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21:21In the season 12 finale of Fly on the Wall, the flies sat down with Ro Khanna, a U.S. representative from California's 17th congressional district since 2017. In the interview, we discussed the 2022 midterms, Biden’s chances at reelection, ownership of Twitter, and the economic future of inflation. You’re not going to want to miss this finale episo…
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Mark Leibovich: "I am not objective or unbiased when it comes to threats to democracy"
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24:32In this episode of Fly on the Wall, the flies sat down with Mark Leibovich, the current staff writer for The Atlantic and the former chief correspondent for The New York Times. In the interview, we discussed his experience profiling politicians and those closest in Trump’s orbit, his take on nepotism in Trump’s administration, and much more. This i…
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Terry McAuliffe sits down with the Flies to discuss his time as governor of Virginia and as DNC chair. McAuliffe and the Flies also touch on leadership styles and even dive into McAuliffe’s 2020 election bid. Don’t miss this episode with Fall 2022 GU Politics Fellow Terry McAuliffe.By Georgetown's Institute of Politics and Public Service
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What happened in the 2022 Midterms? The flies check back in with political data expert Alex Lundry to get his take on what these historic elections mean for Republicans, Democrats, and the future of the country. Tune in to hear the buzz about the 2022 Midterm elections!By Georgetown's Institute of Politics and Public Service
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In this very special episode, the Flies flew downtown to chat with the former Governor of North Carolina, Pat McCrory. In this exciting conversation, McCory talks about his experience in public service, his accomplishments as governor and mayor, handling political controversy, and the threat of political violence. You surely don't want to miss out …
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This week, the Pod interviews GU Politics Fellow Alex Lundry, Chief Analytics Officer for Jeb Bush for President, Director of Data Science for Romney for President, and Co-Founder of Tunnl. Lundry shares his experience as a data scientist and how data can inform strategy. Lundry also discusses the role of data in the midterms and provides some pred…
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Xochitl Hinojosa: "You Can Do a Lot of Good in Federal Government"
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33:26This week the flies sat down with Xochitl Hinojosa, former Senior Advisor and Communications Director for the DNC and the current Managing Director for Bully Pulpit. Xochitl shared her expertise on what's exactly at stake with the current midterm elections as well as the current political crisis against women. There is a lot of buzz swarming about …
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In this episode of FOTW, the Flies sit down with Katie Harbath, Former Director of Public Policy at Facebook and now Director of Democracy and Technology at the International Republican Institute and CEO of Anchor Change. Harbath shares her expertise on the intersection of technology and politics. We hear about her time at Facebook, her views on bi…
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Karoun Demirjian: "There are People Underneath Every Story"
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37:23This week the flies chatted with Karoun Demirjian, the Pentagon Correspondent for the Washington Post. She has covered stories from all over the world including Russia and the Middle East and has won numerous awards for her work. In the interview, she shared her experience as a former foreign correspondent and gave insight into the media’s role in …
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Mary Elizabeth Taylor: "Differences are Jet Fuel"
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34:25In our first episode of Season 12, the flies sit down with GU politics Fellow Mary Elizabeth Taylor, who was Former Assistant Secretary of State for Legislative Affairs and is currently the Vice President and Head of External Affairs at Robinhood Markets. Taylor shares her expertise about the nominations process, her leadership styles, how she deve…
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Jamie Raskin: "It's When Things Look the Worst that You Need to be Out There"
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21:27For the Season 11 Finale, the flies sit down with Congressman Jamie Raskin for Maryland’s 8th Congressional District. Raskin shares why he is in public service, his experience leading President Trump’s second impeachment, and his views on bipartisanship. Tune in for one of our most impactful interviews from this season.…
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