Welcome to House Calls, where we talk to investment bankers from Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBank Capital Markets Inc. These bankers are working in some of the most interesting segments of healthcare, with organizations and business models that are helping to change the US healthcare industry. Host David Johnson is a recovering investment banker who discovered he’s actually a journalist and started 4sight Health, a thought leadership and advisory company. Johnson leads the conversation a ...
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Quick Hits: The Intersection Of Specialty Cancer Care And Private Equity Investment
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12:35Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Patrick Allen talks about the growing role of private equity in the $209 billion cancer care market. As treatments become increasing specialized, complex and costly, the need to coordinate specialty physicians and ancillary care services has created compelling opportunities for investment. Cain Brothers is a divisio…
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Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Stacy Guffanti talks about the challenges of delivering and administering care for the nation’s 12.8 million dual eligible beneficiaries and how new policy initiatives will increase market interest in Medicaid M&A and higher acuity programs. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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Quick Hits: The Rate of Hospital Consolidation in the US - Too Little, Too Slow.
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11:39Cain Brothers’ Managing Director David Cohen talks about the rate of hospital consolidation in the US and why hospital operates are unlikely to match the level of concentration of managed care organizations. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Restoring the Roar: Private Equity’s Insights on the Recovering M&A Markets and Unique Investment Perspectives for 2025
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52:14At Cain Brothers’ Annual Private Company Healthcare Conference in New York, Managing Director Matt Margulies led a panel discussion with private equity leaders about a range of strategic issues including Medicare Advantage, value-based care, PBM and pharmacy market dynamics, opportunities in pediatric home health, and challenges with provider inves…
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Disruptive Healthcare Purchasing by Self-Insured Employers
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58:29At Cain Brothers’ Annual Private Company Healthcare Conference in New York, Dave Johnson, CEO of 4sight Health spoke with Donald Trigg, CEO of apree health and Glenn Tullman, CEO of Transcarent about the power of self-insured employers to transform the experience and cost of healthcare. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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Quick Hits: Back to the Future - Self-Directed Care in the U.S.
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12:04Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Matt Margulies talks about the emerging self-directed care market, and why it’s the fastest growing segment of the US home health care sector. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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What’s Happening to Medicare Advantage? A Panel Discussion
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43:49Between lawsuits, recalculated payments, and health plans leaving markets, Medicare Advantage has been in the news a lot recently. The Cain Brothers Managed Care team digs in on what’s happening, why, and how MA will likely evolve over next year and beyond. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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Health Systems, Private Equity, and the Government: It’s Complicated
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25:04Is PE the cause of or solution to all of healthcare’s problems? Managing Director and Head of Cain Brothers Wyatt Ritchie joins Dave for an adult conversation about PE’s role in healthcare transformation. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Quick Hits: Opportunities in School-Based Healthcare Services in the United States
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7:06Cain Brothers’ Director Jenny Watson talks about the massive need for school-based healthcare services including dental care, primary care, and behavioral health. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Quick Hits: Current Challenges & Trends Impacting the Medical Manufacturing Market
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8:05In this Quick Hits House Call, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Carl Hardie about the outsourced medical manufacturing market’s “crazy ride”, how industry leaders are navigating a host of operating challenges, and why the sector is stronger than ever and continues to grow. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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In this Quick Hits House Call, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Mike Elizondo about tumult in the Medicare Advantage market and why this could be an historic opportunity for health plans to drive growth. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Quick Hits: Rocky Mountain Highlights - Cain Brothers’ Inaugural MedTech & Life Sciences Summit
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10:59In this Quick Hits House Call, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Managing Director and Head of M&A John Soden about the recent MedTech and Life Sciences CEO Summit he hosted in Aspen, Colorado which brought innovative leaders together to discuss the complex challenges they’re facing today. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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Quick Hits: Leveraging AI to Drive Better Conversations with Patients
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11:48In this Quick Hits House Call, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Jill Frew about the exciting potential of AI-powered tools to derive insights from physician-patient communications and reduce the burden of documentation, paving the way for more personalized care and greater administrative efficiency. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyB…
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Quick Hits: The Intersection of Ambulatory Care, Health Systems, and Private Equity
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12:31In this Quick Hits House Calls, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Dave Morlock about health system turmoil and transformation, the role of private equity, and the upcoming Cain Brothers’ Health System and Private Equity Collaboration Conference on June 12-13 in Nashville. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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Quick Hits: A Ground-Breaking Transaction
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11:54In this Quick Hits House Calls, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Director Andy Labovitz about General Catalyst’s proposed acquisition of Summa Health – and whether that transaction represents the future for more health systems around the country. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Quick Hits: The Case for Additional Partnership Between Skilled Nursing and Acute Care Providers
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10:16In this Quick Hits House Calls, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Director Dom Porretta about the intense pressure on skilled nursing facilities and health systems and the need for fresh thinking on joint ventures that reduce discharge bottlenecks and improve day-to-day operations and overall care quality. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital …
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Quick Hits: New Initiatives from CMS to Improve Access to Behavioral Health Services
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7:32In this Quick Hits House Calls, Dave talks to Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Erika Haanpaa about exciting new developments in access to behavioral health care. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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MedTech Follows Pharma: The Rapid Growth of Outsourcing in Medical Device Manufacturing
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32:40Why did Indiana become a hotbed of modern medical device manufacturing? Why did Henry Ford build a city in the Amazon? Every manufacturing sector has its origin story. Most turn to outsourcing as processes and components become increasingly complex, costly, and challenging for compliance. Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Carl Hardie shares these st…
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Kickstarting Innovation Part 2: Why Health Systems and PE Need Each Other
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34:28Why now? Once a rarity, today, health systems and private equity are increasingly working together to transform health system operations through new strategic partnerships. Cain Brothers’ President Wyatt Ritchie joins Dave to discuss the forces bringing private equity and health systems together to power value creation and system transformation. Ca…
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Kickstarting Innovation Part 1: Bringing Health Systems and Private Equity Together for Good
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35:50How should health systems fundamentally rethink their strategies, capital sources and partnerships? Cain Brothers’ President Wyatt Ritchie and Managing Director Dave Morlock join Dave to discuss insights and perspectives from the first-ever health system private equity (PE) collaboration conference hosted by Cain Brothers in Nashville in June. Cain…
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Promises and Perils of Healthcare Innovation: A Conversation with Dr. Zeke Emanuel
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42:37As one of the chief architects of the Affordable Care Act – signed into law 13 years ago last week – and a healthcare thought leader today, Dr. Zeke Emanuel understands how healthcare policy gets forged, how crisis continues to create opportunity, and how innovation can break through industry inertia to transform business and care delivery models. …
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The Bold Predictions Podcast: U.S. Healthcare in 2023 and Beyond
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33:27Value-based care, consolidation, digital transformation, healthcare-at-home… Cain Brothers’ President Rob Fraiman joins Dave to talk about bold predictions for healthcare in 2023 – and how health systems are rethinking their business models and capital formation strategies to survive and thrive in an era of turbulence and opportunity. Cain Brothers…
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Reimagining Healthcare Staffing: Partnership-focused, Data-informed, Nurse-centric
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21:27Volatile labor costs, increased margin pressures, an ever-growing competition for nurses… what’s a health system to do? Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Andy Goldberg joins Dave to talk about health systems’ need for more dynamic, comprehensive workforce strategies, and the innovative staffing companies helping them meet the challenges to come. Cai…
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Overlooked and Underfunded: Dental Care’s Massive Potential to Serve Disadvantaged Populations
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19:55Millions of Medicare and Medicaid beneficiaries lack access to dental care – a situation that not only affects their health and well-being but also increases America’s overall healthcare costs. Cain Brothers’ Director Jenny Watson joins Dave to talk about the role that private equity- and venture-backed dental providers and benefits administrators …
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Home Medical Equipment Providers and the Promise of Value-Based Care
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29:49Stephen Griggs, the CEO of AdaptHealth, joins Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Andy Goldberg and Dave Johnson for a lively discussion about the important role that home medical equipment providers can play in supporting value-based care delivery in the home. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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Home is Where the Healing Happens: Uniting Medicare Advantage Payers and Providers to Create Value
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29:46The market for home-based care delivery is growing rapidly, but what do providers and payers need to succeed in delivering high-quality care that serves patients/beneficiaries in the home? Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Matt Margulies joins Dave to talk about the challenging referral and payment dynamics impeding better care, and new models for b…
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Learning to Thrive: Integrating Mental Health Services within K-12 Education
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24:53How can we better meet the mental, emotional and behavioral health needs of America’s children and teenagers? Cain Brothers’ Director Erika Haanpaa joins Dave to discuss the surge in mental health conditions in young people and the innovative mental health provider organizations offering high-quality services through schools. Cain Brothers is a div…
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Fixing America’s Aching Backs, Bones and Joints: Orthopedic Care in the Digital Health Era by Ricky Ng and Dave Johnson
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24:07Oh, my aching back! Cain Brothers’ Director Ricky Ng joins Dave to discuss the new wave of digital companies working to meet U.S. healthcare’s enormous need for earlier, more effective musculoskeletal (MSK) care. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Fishing for Returns in Turbulent Waters: Healthcare Investors Adapt to New Competitors and Greater Risk
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33:21How are healthcare investors navigating the increasingly competitive and dynamic healthcare investment marketplace? Cain Brothers’ Directors Stacy Guffanti and Mike Elizondo join Dave to talk about what they learned from seasoned investors at leading PE and VC firms. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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Looking Back, Looking Forward: A Golden Age of Healthcare Innovation?
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25:29Cain Brothers’ President Rob Fraiman and Dave look back on 2021, another remarkable year in U.S. healthcare investment and M&A activity, and debate the trends and market dynamics driving industry investment and innovation in 2022 and beyond. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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The Many Roads to Value Part IV: Building The Last Mile to the Patient
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21:29On our last talk on the road to value, Cain Brothers’ Managing Director Bryan Cloncs and Dave cross the digital bridge to patient communication and connection, and gaze toward the future of true patient engagement and tech-enabled consumer-focused healthcare. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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All Roads Lead to Value Part III: Making Inroads in Rural America
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22:13Taking the scenic route on the road to value, Cain Brothers’ director Colby Kittrell joins Dave to talk about promising public and privately-funded initiatives bringing value-based care to underserved communities in rural America. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Moving Healthcare Home and Beyond: A Conversation with Paul Kusserow, Chairman and CEO of Amedisys
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46:59As part of Cain Brothers’ 8th annual Healthcare Conference, Dave Johnson interviewed Amedisys CEO, Paul Kusserow, on his unusual approach to healthcare leadership and his company’s remarkable turnaround story in the dynamic home health sector. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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All Roads Lead to Value Part II: Positioning Physicians to Manage Care Risk
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19:41The road to value continues. In our second installment, Cain Brothers’ Director Mike Elizondo joins Dave to talk about risk-services organizations, a new breed of MSO enabling physician groups to participate in risk-based contracts while remaining independent. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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The Many Roads to Value Part I: What is a Health System Supposed to Be?
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26:30In 2020, vertically-integrated tax-exempt health systems outperformed traditional health systems financially, and offered more evidence of the advantages of value-based payment models in an increasingly consumer-driven marketplace. Cain Brothers’ Director David Levine talks with Dave Johnson about five models innovative health systems are pursuing …
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Medicaid, Motherhood and America’s Future: Giving Birth to Better Maternity Outcomes
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29:36Medicaid funds almost half of all births in the U.S, yet the overall maternal mortality rate is dismal. Cain Brothers' Christian Pesci and Women's Health USA's Andrea Balogh join Dave Johnson to discuss innovative models and value-based reforms that are improving care quality, safety, experience and cost for millions of new mothers and their babies…
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Stigma vs. Science: Overcoming Opioid Addiction with Evidence-based Treatments and Services
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14:56Though the COVID pandemic dominated headlines, substance abuse and opioid-related deaths spiked dramatically in 2020. Cain Brothers’ Director Erika Haanpaa talks with Dave Johnson about the distinct challenges of opioid addiction and new treatments and services creating hope for a better future. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Market…
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Health Systems Embrace Platforming and Innovative Financing Strategies
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26:44To compete in dynamic, consumer-centric markets, not-for-profit health systems must build broad, asset-light service platforms, despite the limits of traditional financing. Cain Brothers’ Co-Head of Health Systems M&A, Dave Morlock talks with Dave Johnson about innovative capital formation tools that support strategic growth and investment flexibil…
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The Many Flavors of Healthcare’s Not-For-Profit/For-Profit Partnerships
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19:08Investors and sponsors increasingly look for M&A and JV opportunities with not-for-profit health systems and plans, even as NFP organizations seek outside funding for their strategic and financial goals. Cain Brothers’ M&A practice Director, Stacy Guffanti talks with Dave Johnson about the rise of healthcare’s not-for-profit/for-profit partnerships…
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The Worst and Best of Times: Investor Perspectives from Cain Brothers’ Healthcare 2020 Virtual Conference
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27:28Cain Brothers’ President, Rob Fraiman discusses how healthcare Private Equity and growth investors navigated an unprecedented year, and why they are optimistic about growth and a better healthcare system in 2021 and beyond. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Cain Brothers is a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets.…
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The Future of Clinical Trials: Decentralized, Diversified, Efficient and Fast
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23:30The race to develop a COVID-19 vaccine has put the clinical trial process under the microscope. Cain Brothers Managing Director, John Kerins, talks with Dave Johnson about innovations in clinical trials that reduce the barriers to participation, improve the diversity of patient populations, and accelerate the development of safe and effective vacci…
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Podcast: The Future of Hospitals in Post-COVID America (Part 2) – The Policy Response
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34:19Dave Morlock, Managing Director at Cain Brothers’ Health Systems M&A Group, and Bart Plank, the firm’s Co-Director of Healthcare Public Finance, debate the future of hospitals in markets challenged by social determinants of health and fiscal and operational pressures.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Podcast: The Future of Hospitals in Post-COVID America (Part 1) – The Market Response
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27:47The Co-Heads of Cain Brothers’ Health Systems M&A Group, Carsten Beith and James Moloney, discuss Black Swans, Gray Rhinos and the Future of Hospitals in Post-COVID America.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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Home Health Is Where the Growth Is: The Post-COVID Rise of Platform Solutions
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29:40The Home Health Care sector is poised for major growth and consolidation in the Post-COVID era. Matt Margulies, Managing Director at Cain Brothers, a Division of KeyBanc Capital Markets, talks with Dave Johnson about the forces changing this sector. Technology, consumer demand, payment reform, and new platform business models are increasing care qu…
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COVID-19: Healthcare Private Equity Executives on Life with COVID
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41:24Join Wyatt Ritchie, Managing Director at Cain Brothers, as he interviews the following healthcare private equity executives to discuss life with COVID-19 and investment strategies moving forward: Benjamin Edmands, Managing Partner & Co-Founder, Consonance Capital Partners Marty Felsenthal, Partner, Health Velocity Capital Gregory Moerschal, Managin…
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COVID-19: CareMont Medical CEO & CFO talk with Rob Fraiman, Cain Brothers
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19:10Join Rob Fraiman, President of Cain Brothers, as he interviews Scott Hayworth, M.D., CEO of CareMount Medical, and Kevin Conroy, CFO and Chief Population Health Officer of CareMount in a discussion of the COVID-19 pandemic, its impact on the healthcare sector and how CareMount Medical is responding.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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COVID-19: Terry Akin, CEO of Cone Health, talks with Carsten Beith, Cain Brothers
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24:59Join Terry Akin, CEO of Cone Health and Carsten Beith, Managing Director at Cain Brothers, in a discussion of the COVID-19 pandemic, its impact on the healthcare sector and how Cone Health is responding.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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COVID-19: Steve Rodgers, AccentCare, speaks with Matthew Margulies, Cain Brothers
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36:19Join Steve Rodgers, CEO of AccentCare, and Matthew Margulies, Managing Director at Cain Brothers, in a discussion of the COVID-19 pandemic, its impact on the healthcare sector and how AccentCare is responding.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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COVID-19: Healthcare PE Executives on Impact & Influence on Investing
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39:56John Soden, Managing Director at Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets, discusses the challenges of and investment strategies in the COVID-19 crisis with healthcare private equity executives. Ben Magnano, Managing Partner, Frazier Healthcare Partners Dan Agroskin, Managing Director & Mgnt Committee Member, JLL Partners Tony Davis, Pr…
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COVID-19: James Hereford, Fairview Health Services, speaks with Dave Morlock, Cain Brothers
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18:40Join James Hereford, President & CEO of Fairview Health Services and Dave Morlock, Managing Director at Cain Brothers, in a discussion of the COVID-19 pandemic, its impact on the healthcare sector and how Fairview Health Services is responding.By Cain Brothers, a division of KeyBanc Capital Markets
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