The BREAK—DOWN is a not-for-profit media project focused on capitalism, nature and the climate. Launched in May 2024, we publish audio + video content, alongside new writing. To support our work, find us at www.break-down.org/support
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Episode 18: Legacies of Empire w/ Kojo Koram
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50:49In much of the media, the importance of the legacies of empire and colonialism are often dismissed, with the public conversation dominated by the "culture war" elements, from debates about statues to institutions like the National Trust becoming "woke". The implication within much of this discourse is that empire and colonialism are features of the…
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Episode 17: Capitalism Without Growth? w/ Hans Stegeman
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43:22Around the world, politics is incredibly polarised, but if there’s one thing politicians of all major parties can agree on, it’s growth — that their political rivals failed to deliver growth, that we need more of it, and that getting it will solve all of our problems, from inequality and poverty to crumbling public services and stalling investment.…
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Episode 16: Year in Review: A Macrodose x Break Down Crossover
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43:15A lot has happened in the six months since we launched this project. It feels like every week of 2024 has packed a decade’s worth of news. In just the past few weeks, we've seen crises hit the French and German governments, the fall of the Assad regime in Syria, a day of martial law in South Korea, and, of course, Trump’s reelection to the White Ho…
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Episode 15: After Overshoot w/ Andreas Malm
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43:28In 2024, we’re set to break a major climate threshold for the first time: this will be the first calendar year in which global average temperatures breach the 1.5 degree Celsius threshold enshrined in the Paris Agreement. Importantly, while one year at this temperature doesn’t mean all is lost, it does fire a profound warning shot over our falterin…
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Episode 14: Climate Change as Class War w/ Matt Huber
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1:00:54In the wake of the US election, hot takes and autopsies of the Democrats’ fairly spectacular loss are a dime a dozen. Amid the swirl of diagnoses there has also been real fear about what a Trump presidency means for the climate — an issue that felt almost entirely absent from either campaign, despite its significant role in Biden’s policy platform.…
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Episode 13: US Election Special w/ Kate Aronoff and Waleed Shahid
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47:19Amid the threat of “Project 2025”, ongoing genocide in Gaza, and a nation-wide battle over reproductive rights, to name a few major issues, the climate crisis has been considerably sidelined in the US election taking place on November 5th. But even if it’s not grabbing headlines, what the United States does — or does not do — on climate has profoun…
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Episode 12: Cycles of Extraction: Ecuador, oil and the IMF w/ Andrés Arauz
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34:54In a 2023 referendum, the people of Ecuador voted 59 per cent to 41 per cent to stop exploiting oil in the Yasuní region, one of the most biodiverse places on Earth, with more tree species in one single hectare than in all of the landmass of Canada and the US combined. It was a massive break with the global status quo, in a year when fossil fuel us…
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Episode 11: Reaping What We Sow w/ Sonali McDermid
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49:18We have become incredibly good at producing food. In doing so we have transformed our planet. Yet when we go to the supermarket or eat at a restaurant, the supply chains, labour and environmental impacts that went into our food are all but invisible. Those impacts are huge. Today, humans and livestock make up 96 per cent of all mammals. Agriculture…
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Episode 10: Utopia and Crisis w/ Kim Stanley Robinson
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54:55In a 2004 essay for the New Left Review, theorist and literary critic Fredric Jameson wrote: “Utopias are non-fictional, even though they are also non-existent. Utopias in fact come to us as barely audible messages from a future that may never come into being.” Today's episode of The Break Down explores the idea and the power of utopian fiction wit…
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Episode 9: Public Energy No. 1 w/ Chris Hayes and Melanie Brusseler
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55:36Followers of The Break Down may remember our very first episode, in which Adrienne spoke to the brilliant Brett Christophers about the many and varied reasons why — despite all the hype about how cheap renewables have become — the transition to renewable energy cannot be left to the market and the profit motive. What that interview didn't leave us …
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Episode 8: The End of Liberalism? w/ Chris Shaw
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47:12As a listener of The Break Down, chances are you’re living in a political system that could be defined as “liberal”. But what does “liberalism” really describe? Is it about democracy? Free markets? The protection of individual freedom? Ask ten different people, and you’re likely to get ten different answers. According to Chris Shaw, liberalism can …
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Episode 7: Political Futures w/ Geoff Mann
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53:35"To the question how shall we ever be able to extricate ourselves from the obvious insanity of this position, there is no answer.” These words were written fifty years ago by philosopher Hannah Arendt, but are just as relevant to the present moment, in which our political leaders and systems continue to fail to grapple with climate and ecological c…
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Episode 6: The Hidden Climate Impact of Military Power w/ Khem Rogaly
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46:55If you listen to this podcast, chances are you’ve heard of the global target of “net zero emissions” by 2050. You’ve probably also heard about how off track we are from meeting it. But what if I told you we’re even more off track than you might think, because thanks to some effective lobbying, governments don’t have to count the emissions from thei…
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Episode 5: The Invisible Code of Capitalism w/ Katharina Pistor
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47:55Capitalism could not exist without the power and structure of the law — that’s the simple but radical argument made by my guest today, Katharina Pistor, law professor at Columbia University, and the author of The Code of Capital: How The Law Creates Wealth and Inequality. On today’s episode, we break down how the law ‘encodes’ capital and invisibly…
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Episode 4: What Economics Gets Wrong About Climate Change w/ Ha-Joon Chang
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53:16What would you say a human life is worth? According to the US government, for an American it’s about $7.2 million, compared with the global average of approximately $1.3 million. If you’re Swiss though, you’re worth a pretty penny at $9.4 million. While these estimates might sound absurd, they're important to understand: these kinds of figures and …
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Episode 3: In Pursuit of Climate Justice w/ Fredi Otto
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46:04“The stakes could not be higher.” These are the recent words not of climate activists, but of a coalition representing major oil and gas companies in a letter to the US Supreme Court. The context? They’re asking the Court to block dozens of lawsuits that seek to hold these firms to account for their role in driving the climate crisis, including by …
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Special Episode: Oil, Palestine and Climate Crisis w/ Adam Hanieh
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31:33In this special episode, Adam Hanieh explains the threads linking the global oil economy; more than a century of Western imperialism; contemporary American interests in the Middle East; and the response of governments in the US, UK and much of Europe to the ongoing genocide and ecocide in Gaza. Ultimately, he explains why these overlapping historie…
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Episode 2: A World Made of Oil w/ Adam Hanieh
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1:05:51Oil is fundamental to our understanding of the climate crisis. But despite its starring role, the dominance of oil in the global energy system is a relatively recent phenomenon, with the industry only really taking off after the Second World War. So how, in just a few decades, did oil become so integral to American power and to our understanding of…
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Episode 1: The Price is Wrong w/ Brett Christophers
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1:28:01Renewable energy is often held up as the great success story of climate change, with policymakers and journalists constantly celebrating that clean energy is now cheaper than fossil fuels. By their logic, these plummeting costs mean that when it comes to the energy transition, the economics are essentially sorted, and we're now on an inevitable pat…
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Welcome to The Break Down. A new project dedicated to exploring capitalism has shaped, and is being fundamentally reshaped by, accelerating climate and ecological crisis. In our first episode, Adrienne and Brett Christophers will unpack the energy system: how it works, the problem with profits, and why “free” markets can’t deliver clean energy. Lau…
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