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A Data-Driven Analysis of Why Black Students and Students with Disabilities are Arrested Disproportionately in Maryland Public Schools
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1:26:02Please join us for “A Data-Driven Analysis of Why Black Students and Students with Disabilities are Arrested Disproportionately in Maryland Public Schools” with Tamara Ward. Tamara Ward is a 2023 NABJ Pew Youth Justice Fellow. A MDDC Press Association award-winning multi-platform journalist, she is also an accomplished communications professional w…
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5 Things Every Parent of Neurodivergent Kids Needs to Know
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1:23:44Please join us for 5 Things Every Parent of Neurodivergent Kids Needs to Know with Polina Shkadron. Polina is a trauma-informed speech-language pathologist, family communication and feeding expert who specializes in autism and ADHD. She uses play to engage with each child’s unique perspective of the world. She earned her Master of Arts degree in Sp…
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Diving into the NeuroRelational Framework: An Interview with Connie Lillas
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1:16:00Please join us for “Diving into the NeuroRelational Framework: An Interview with Connie Lillas.” Connie Lillas, Founder and Executive Director of the NeuroRelational Framework (NRF) Institute Research to Resilience (www.NRFcare.org), co-authored the NeuroRelational Framework textbook and later authored the NRF 3 Steps to Resilience Foundations Manu…
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Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion are Still Important in Education: An Interview with Nicole Keler
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1:18:02Please join us for “Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion are Still Important in Education: An Interview with Nicole Keler.” Nicole Keler is a passionate special education leader with nine years of experience working in the public charter school system across Washington, D.C. She is currently a Specialist on the School Equity and Effectiveness team at t…
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A Parent’s Journey: From ABA to a Better Way
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1:35:48Please join us for “A Parent’s Journey: From ABA to a Better Way” with Chantelle Hyde. When I think back to about five years ago now, around the time that I first learned of my daughter’s traumatic seclusion incident at school from another parent, I was in a state of shock. After running into one frustrating and upsetting experience after another w…
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The Journey Towards Neuroscience-Aligned Education
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1:18:30Please join us for “The Journey Towards Neuroscience-Aligned Education” with Katie Pagnotta, Ellen Surprenant, and Sam Chadwick. Katie Pagnotta is a licensed clinical mental health counselor, functional success educational consultant, parent coach, and author. She is also the creator of the Brain- and Body-Aligned Responsive Systems (BBARS) of Exce…
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Please join us for “Lessons in Listening with Yeiter.” Yeiter has 50 years of personal commitment to specifically supporting people who live in a status he names a “reputation for challenging behavior”. He draws on a rich personal history. His time in the company of people defined by a story of challenging behavior begins in an unreformed back ward…
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Pathological Demand Avoidance: Born Outside the System
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1:19:07Please join us for “Pathological Demand Avoidance: Born Outside the System” with Sandra McConnell. Sandra McConnell, who is sometimes known as the PDA Mama Bear, is an instructor, speaker, blogger, and parent coach. She has bachelor’s and master’s degrees in psychology, and two graduate certificates in neurodiversity and learning differences. And h…
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Understanding Autistic Strengths & Differences: Why It’s Essential for Meaningful Support
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1:08:35Please join us for “Understanding Autistic Strengths & Differences: Why It’s Essential for Meaningful Support” with Staci Neustadt and Susan Golubock. Staci Neustadt, CEO of Making Sense of Autism®, is a licensed Speech-Language Pathologist with over 20 years of experience providing individual and group therapy, training, mentorship, and leadership…
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Systemic Shifts in Inclusion: Neuroscience-Informed Practices for Transformation and Capacity Building
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1:15:39Please join us for “Systemic Shifts in Inclusion: Neuroscience-Informed Practices for Transformation and Capacity Building” with Angelina Zara and Nicole Keler. Angelina Zara was born and raised in the heart of Washington, DC; Angie found her passion in education in 2015, serving students and caregivers in her hometown. Angie’s career includes the …
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Reducing and Eliminating Restraint and Seclusion in a Vermont School District: A Discussion with Superintendent Michael Leichliter
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1:16:00Please join us for “Reducing and Eliminating Restraint and Seclusion in a Vermont School District: A Discussion with Superintendent Michael Leichliter” Mike is passionate about the ability of public education to provide all students with a high-quality education and is proud to be the superintendent of Harwood Unified Union School District. Mike’s …
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Not an Autism Mom: A Discussion with Meghan Ashburn
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1:19:17Please join us for “Not an Autism Mom: A Discussion with Meghan Ashburn.” Meghan Ashburn is a continuous learner, former elementary educator, family support specialist, speaker, and co-author of the award-winning book, I Will Die On This Hill. Her book club of over 15K members publishes book recommendation lists on autism and neurodiversity, and he…
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Let’s Talk About Interoception: A Discussion with Kelly Mahler
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1:15:28Please join us for “Let’s Talk About Interoception: A Discussion with Kelly Mahler.” Kelly Mahler is an award-winning occupational therapist, author, and interoception groupie known for her boundless curiosity and fondness for crunching pinecones. Holding a Doctorate in Occupational Therapy, she has served school-aged children and adults for over 2…
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Your FBA is a Fantasy! Making Trauma-Informed, Neuro-Affirming Practices Actionable and Aligning our FBAs and BSPs Accordingly
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1:23:06Please join us for “Your FBA is a Fantasy! Making Trauma-Informed, Neuro-Affirming Practices Actionable, and Aligning our FBAs and BSPs Accordingly” – An Interview with Rick & Doris Bowman about their workshop and upcoming book on trauma-informed FBAs & BSPs Bringing together their combined experience and expertise in the fields of both mental heal…
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The (Re)Education of Schools: A Discussion with Katie Thornton and Justin Moorman
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1:19:44Please join us for “The (Re)Education of Schools: A Discussion with Katie Thornton and Justin Moorman.” Justin Moorman and Katie Thornton are veteran educators who are well versed in Trauma-Informed Practices with advanced training in the Neurosequential Model in Education, Applied Educational Neuroscience, Crisis Prevention Intervention, Restorati…
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Bolstering Self-Regard: the Energetics of Helping Children Thrive in Negative Classroom Environments
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1:04:38Please join us for “Bolstering Self-Regard: the Energetics of Helping Children Thrive in Negative Classroom Environments” with Erin Grimm. Erin Grimm comes from a long line of educators. She has over ten years of experience teaching world languages and English and now owns her own business "Seahurst Learns Together," which is dedicated to academic …
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Providing Trauma-Informed Care: Responses That Don't Work and Five Tools to Help Kids Thrive
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1:36:04Please join us for “Providing Trauma-Informed Care: Responses That Don't Work and Five Tools to Help Kids Thrive” with Katie Crosby, M.S., L.P.C. Katie Crosby is a Licensed Professional Counselor who specializes in the treatment of childhood/developmental, trauma, and human trafficking in children and adolescents. Prior to this, Katie served as the…
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Step Into My Shoes: An Interview with Author Rebecca Engle About Her New Children's Book
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1:03:33Please join us for “Step Into My Shoes: An Interview with Author Rebecca Engle About Her New Children's Book.” Rebecca Engle is a graduate student at Texas Tech University who is passionate about educational policy and leadership. Rebecca made history in Texas politics at 19 and is devoted to advocating for positive change. Alongside her studies, R…
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Rethinking Challenging Behaviors: An Interview with Maria Sanders
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1:16:06Please join us for “Rethinking Challenging Behaviors: An Interview with Maria Sanders.” Maria Sanders is a Licensed Social Worker, PCI Certified Parent Coach® and is certified in the Collaborative Problem Solving® (CPS) approach by Think:Kids, a program based at the Department of Psychiatry at the Massachusetts General Hospital. Her work is support…
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Heart-Strong Changemakers for Children™, a New Program from HEART-STRONG International
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1:20:21Please join us for “Heart-Strong Changemakers for Children™, a New Program from HEART-STRONG International” with Sandi Lerman. Sandi Lerman is the Founder and Program Director of Heart-Strong International and the creator of the Heart-Strong Model™ - a trauma-informed, neuro-affirming system for growth, healing, and transformation in children and a…
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Making Sense of Even the Most Baffling Behaviors: An Interview with Robyn Gobbel
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1:17:03Please join us for “Making Sense of Even the Most Baffling Behaviors: An Interview with Robyn Gobbel.” Robyn Gobbel, MSW, loves coffee, P!NK, and everything about the brain. Once (recently!) her teenager went ballistic on her for getting ANOTHER (glitter!) coffee mug in the mail. Robyn loves cultivating deep, resonant connections with anyone who is…
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All Our Instincts About Behavior Are Wrong
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1:14:43Please join us for “All Our Instincts About Behavior Are Wrong” with Diane Gould. Diane Gould is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who specializes in serving autistic individuals. As the Executive Director and Founder of PDA North America, she founded the annual PDA North America conference held in Chicago which has changed the lives of hundreds of…
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An Interview with Julie Roberts: The Gold Standard Fallacy of ABA
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1:17:47Please join us for “An Interview with Julie Roberts: The Gold Standard Fallacy of ABA." Julie Roberts, M.S., CCC-SLP, founding CEO of Therapist Neurodiversity Collective, Inc., is a late-diagnosed Autistic ASHA-certified, licensed Speech-Language Pathologist who has been practicing since 1999. She is a frequent speaker, educator, and trainer who de…
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Accessible Neuroscience and Connecting Strategies that Bring Calm into the Home and Classroom
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1:13:15Please join us for “Accessible Neuroscience and Connecting Strategies that Bring Calm into the Home and Classroom” with Ginger Healy MSW, LCSW. Ginger Healy MSW, LCSW started her career as a child abuse investigator, hospital social worker, and school therapist. She spent 15 years as the social service supervisor at an international adoption agency…
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Lessons in Leadership: An Interview with Charles Williams about Shifting School Discipline Practices
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1:20:07Please join us for “Lessons in Leadership: An Interview with Charles Williams about Shifting School Discipline Practices.” Charles Williams, a dedicated educator with nearly two decades of experience, has made impactful contributions in various capacities, including teacher, assistant principal, and principal within the K-12 educational sector. His…
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The Journey to Develop Reframing Behavior: A New Neuroscience Aligned Program for Educators
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1:07:40Please join us for “The Journey to Develop Reframing Behavior: A New Neuroscience Aligned Program for Educators” with Susan Driscoll, Patricia Bosco, and Connie Persike. Susan Driscoll is President of Crisis Prevention Institute (CPI) and oversees the development of all products and programs, the trainers who deliver them, and for the support and c…
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Please join us for “Misunderstandings of Discipline” with Jodi Place. Jodi Place has served as a public educator for over 25 years. Prior to becoming a school administrator, she was a Nationally Board-Certified English teacher. As an administrator, she has experience leading in traditional high school and middle school settings as well as alternati…
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Neurodiversity and the Myth of Normal
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1:19:31Please join us for “Neurodiversity and the Myth of Normal” with Pam Collins from Neurodivergent by Nature. Pam Collins is a late-identified neurodivergent parent to two amazing multiply neurodivergent adult sons. She provides Neurodiverse-Affirming parent coaching, consulting, and education services to families and community partners and has been s…
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Body and Brain Brilliance: A Discussion with Dr. Lori Desautels and the BBB Team About the New Book
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1:19:08Dr. Lori Desautels has been an Assistant Professor at Butler University since 2016, where she teaches both undergraduate and graduate programs in the College of Education. She was also an Assistant Professor at Marian University in Indianapolis for eight years, where she founded the Educational Neuroscience Symposium. Currently, the Symposium is in…
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Making Sense of a Chaotic World: A Discussion with Professor Andrew McDonnell
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1:01:56Please join us for “Making Sense of a Chaotic World: A Discussion with Professor Andrew McDonnell.” Professor Andrew McDonnell BSc., MSc., PhD. is a Consultant Clinical Psychologist to and Director of Studio III Clinical Services; Director, clinical consultant and Team Leader to Studio III Training; formerly worked as a Clinical Psychologist in the…
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The Importance of Neurodiversity-Affirming Approaches in Trauma-Informed Models of Care
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1:17:46Please join us for “The Importance of Neurodiversity-Affirming Approaches in Trauma-Informed Models of Care” with Trisha Thompson. Trisha Thompson is a late-diagnosed AuDHD Early Childhood Education Consultant and parent to an Autistic child. She has been working in the field of ECE for almost 10 years. Prior to becoming a consultant, she worked in…
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The Truth About ABA: The Most Popular Autism Therapy in the US and Canada
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1:14:13Please join us for “The Truth About ABA: The Most Popular Autism Therapy in the US and Canada” with Anne Borden King. Anne Borden King is a Toronto-based podcaster, writer and human rights advocate. Her work has appeared in the New York Times, Healthy Debate and the Thinking Person's Guide to Autism, among other publications. She is the host of Non…
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Your Child’s Point of View: A New Book from Kelsie Olds, the OccuPlaytional Therapist
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1:16:05Please join us for “Your Child’s Point of View: A New Book from Kelsie Olds, the OccuPlaytional Therapist.” Kelsie Olds, "The Occuplaytional Therapist", shares passionately every day online with thousands of parents, teachers, professionals--and adults simply seeking to heal childhood wounds in their own selves--about the healing and power in play …
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The Child Catcher: An Interview with Andrew Bridge About his Upcoming Book
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1:12:31Please join us for “The Child Catcher: An Interview with Andrew Bridge About his Upcoming Book” Andrew Bridge spent 11 years in Los Angeles County foster care. After aging out, he attended Wesleyan University, then graduated from Harvard Law School and was awarded a Fulbright Fellowship. He began his legal career representing children against the S…
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What’s New at the Attachment and Trauma Network: An Interview with Ginger Healy and Julie Beem
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59:06Please join us for “What’s New at the Attachment and Trauma Network: An Interview with Ginger Healy and Julie Beem.” Ginger Healy MSW, LCSW started her career as a child abuse investigator, hospital social worker, and school therapist. She spent 15 years as the social service supervisor at an international adoption agency where she learned about de…
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Sensory Integration: Helping Children with Emotional Regulation
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1:17:06Please join us for “Sensory Integration: Helping Children with Emotional Regulation” with Heathyr Watson. As a young child, Heathyr always knew she would go into the helping profession, whether it was medicine, teaching, or social work. Heathyr has a bachelor’s degree in History Education and a Master’s in Social Work. Heathyr is working on licensi…
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Changing Systems: A Conversation with Jeff Spitzer-Resnick, an Experienced Civil Rights, Disability, and Education Attorney
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1:16:11Please join us for “Changing Systems: A Conversation with Jeff Spitzer-Resnick, an Experienced Civil Rights, Disability, and Education Attorney.” Jeff Spitzer-Resnick, is a nationally recognized attorney with thirty-eight years of experience in the fields of civil rights, disability and education law. He currently owns and operates Systems Change C…
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A Unique Program Helping Kids Find the Pathways to Success: An Interview with Dr. Tania DuBeau
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1:18:59Please join us for “A Unique Program Helping Kids Find the Pathways to Success: An Interview with Dr. Tania DuBeau.” Tania DuBeau has worked for The Pathways Schools since 1988 and is now finishing her 36th school year. She began as one of the social workers at the school and moved into various administrative positions, including principal of one o…
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Becoming a Trauma-informed Restorative Educator: Practical Skills to Change Culture and Behavior
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1:17:02Please join us for “Becoming a Trauma-informed Restorative Educator: Practical Skills to Change Culture and Behavior” with Joe Brummer and Margaret Thorsborne. Joe Brummer is a trauma survivor. Having lived through early exposure to violence, child abuse and neglect, and two violent anti-LGBTQ hate crimes, he turned his healing journey into a caree…
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Navigating PDA in America: An Interview with Diane Gould about Her New Book
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1:23:30Please join us for “Navigating PDA in America: An Interview with Diane Gould about Her New Book” Diane Gould is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker who specializes in serving autistic individuals. As the Executive Director and Founder of PDA North America, she founded the annual PDA North America conference held in Chicago which has changed the lives…
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Offering Support to Caregivers and Children During a Challenging Moment
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1:20:52Please join us for “Offering Support to Caregivers and Children During a Challenging Moment” with Nancy L. Weaver, PhD. MPH. Dr. Weaver has a keen interest in promoting emotional health and working with schools and agencies to nurture the growth of all kids and adults using strength-based methods. She consults in the areas of messaging, community a…
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An Interview with Antwan Morris: Moving Beyond Incarceration to Ending the School-to-Prison Pipeline
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1:12:15Please join us for “An Interview with Antwan Morris: Moving Beyond Incarceration to Ending the School-to-Prison Pipeline.” Antwan Morris lived the stereotypical lifestyle of a young black male growing up in the inner city. By 14, he’d essentially dropped out of school, and by 17, he was incarcerated. With 20+ years of hard work, advocating, healing…
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The Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) Therapeutic Listening System: A Journey to Better Nervous System State Regulation
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1:26:15Please join us for “The Safe and Sound Protocol (SSP) Therapeutic Listening System: A Journey to Better Nervous System State Regulation” with Jennifer Abbanat, C-TSS, EXA-CE, SSP Provider. Jennifer is a parenting coach, Expressive Arts Educator, IEP advocate, Safe and Sound Protocol Provider, and trauma-informed consultant who uses neuro-affirming …
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Author Katie Pagnotta joins us to talk about: "Brain and Body-Aligned Responsive Systems of Excellence.”
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1:21:51Author Katie Pagnotta joins us to talk about: "Brain and Body-Aligned Responsive Systems of Excellence.” Katie Pagnotta is a licensed clinical mental health counselor, functional success educational consultant, parent coach, and author. She is also the creator of the Brain- and Body-Aligned Responsive Systems (BBARS) of Excellence framework. She gu…
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What Toddler AAC Taught Me About Regulation and Nervous System Supports
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1:36:14Please join us for “What Toddler AAC Taught Me About Regulation and Nervous System Supports” with Cass Griffin Bennett. Cass Griffin Bennett is an autistic and ADHD self-advocate and parent of multiple young autistic children. Cass is passionate about all things equity, early access to robust high-tech Augmentative and Alternative Communication (AA…
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Disproportionate School Brutality Upon Black Children
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1:20:01Please join us for “Disproportionate School Brutality Upon Black Children” with Nicole Tuchinda. Nicole Tuchinda, JD, MD, LLM is a special education attorney, Assistant Professor, and Director of the Health Law Program at Loyola University New Orleans College of Law. She writes about the need to make education trauma-informed and attachment-driven,…
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Educator Well Being: Discussing the Current Conditions of Stress Response in Education
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1:15:19Please join us for "Educator Well Being: Discussing the Current Conditions of Stress Response in Education" with Angelina Zara. Born and raised in the heart of Washington, DC, Angie found her passion in education in 2015, serving students and caregivers in her hometown. As an elementary school teacher in a Title 1, full-inclusion classroom, Angie l…
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Five Years of Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint: An Interview with Executive Director Guy Stephens
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1:39:23Celebrating 5 Incredible Years: A Live Interview with Guy Stephens on the Past, Present, and Future of the Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint Join us for a unique event for the Alliance Against Seclusion and Restraint (AASR) as we present a Live, in-person interview with Guy Stephens, the visionary Founder and Director of AASR, that promises …
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How Neuroscience and a Mother’s Love Led to the Creation of CapeAble® Weighted Products
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1:20:14Please join us for “How Neuroscience and a Mother’s Love Led to the Creation of CapeAble® Weighted Products” with Marna Pacheco. Marna Pacheco is the founder of CapeAble® Weighted Products and inventor of SmartWeight® Technology proudly manufactured in the USA. Marna embodies the saying: “Necessity is the mother of invention.” To help her adopted d…
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Our Story - From Suffering to Hope and on to Flourishing. Strategic Self-regulation, Co-regulation, and Coproduction: Leadership Lessons from My Brother
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1:11:02Please join us for “Our Story - From Suffering to Hope and on to Flourishing. Strategic Self-regulation, Co-regulation, and Coproduction: Leadership Lessons from My Brother” with Jamie Emberson. Jamie possesses extensive years of both lived and professional expertise across diverse roles in healthcare, social care, and wellbeing. His career has enc…
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