When 2 brothers who love movies get together, something Brotastic happens.
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Politics minus bile plus jokes. Comedian and avowed independent Andrew Heaton interviews authors and thought leaders about policy and big thinky stuff.
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A safe space for dangerous conversations, from The Spectator Australia. The Spectator is the world’s longest-running magazine of news, arts and ideas. Hosted by Will Kingston.
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Conventional wisdom is brimming with economic myths: the Industrial Revolution impoverished the masses; bobber barons were the scourge of the Gilded Age; the Great Recession was caused by irresponsible deregulation. Senator Phil Gramm and economist Don Boudreaux attempt to set the record straight in their new book, “The Triumph of Economic Freedom:…
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The rise of the 'woke right', with James Lindsay
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1:07:52When classical liberals and conservatives took the fight to the ‘woke left’, many made the mistake of thinking that victory would automatically mark a return to classical liberal and conservative principles. Whilst the battle is not over, it is now clear that it won’t be that simple. In fact, perhaps the greatest achievement of the ‘woke left’ has …
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Donald Trump is threatening to levy tariffs on films shot elsewhere, and actor John Voight is petitioning the federal government for taxpayer subsidies to protect Hollywood from foreign competition. Screenwriter C. Robert Cargill joins to discuss. https://www.scamstuff.com/products/brian-and-matt-june-2025…
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The (not so) lucky country, with Adam Creighton
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55:44Australia has often been called the ‘lucky country’. Today, it faces a series of economic, cultural, and geopolitical challenges, seemingly without a political class that is equipped to address them. Has Australia’s luck run out? Will ponders this question with the Chief Economist at the Institute of Public Affairs, and columnist for The Australian…
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BONUS: Will's take on the Australian election, with Nick Dixon
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31:45Will was invited back on Nick Dixon's podcast, 'The Current Thing', to discuss the recent Australian election. You can watch the interview on Nick's YouTube channel here. Follow Will Kingston and Fire at Will on social media here. Read The Spectator Australia here.By Will Kingston
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Pondering the big questions, with Sebastian Junger
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58:04One of the tragedies of modernity is how it has stripped away the time (or if we’re being honest, the inclination) to think about the big questions. Most of us no longer spend much time reflecting on the big questions. Which is why it was such a privilege for Will to speak to someone who does. Sebastian Junger is a #1 New York Times best-selling au…
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Why You Need a License for Everything
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1:33:04Rebecca Allensworth is the Associate Dean of Research at Vanderbilt Law, where she focuses on anti-trust and licensing. She is the author of "The Licensing Racket: How We Decide Who Is Allowed to Work, and Why It Goes Wrong." She joins to discuss licensing, and alternatives. Previous: Shoshanna Weissman on Grooming Licenses https://omny.fm/shows/so…
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BONUS: A loveless landslide, with Stephen Conroy and Michael Kroger
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32:46The incumbent Labor government, led by Prime Minister Anthony Albanese, has won a second term in office. Whilst the result was expected, the magnitude of the victory was not. Why did it go so wrong for the Coalition, and how did Labor pull it out of the bag, after trailing in the polls only two months ago? Will raised these questions with Michael K…
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BONUS: An uninspiring choice, with Andrew Bolt
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47:06Earlier this week, Will interviewed journalist Andrew Bolt for the UK edition of The Spectator on the upcoming Australian election. The conversation went beyond politics to a fascinating reflection on modern Australia. Listen here, or you can watch the interview on Spectator TV here. Follow Will Kingston and Fire at Will on social media here. Read …
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A.I. Will Be Even More Awesome Than You Thought
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58:44Marc Beckman is a Senior Fellow of Emerging Technology at NYU, adjunct professor Stern, and the author of "Some Future Day: how AI is going to Change Everything." He joins to discuss practical implications of the unfolding AI Revolution.By Andrew Heaton, Marc Beckman
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Trump's 100 day report card, with Matt Welch
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56:46Despite the media's love of a 100 day report card, it's usually far too early to judge the effectiveness of a new leader. That's not the case in Trump world. He has moved at a dizzying pace, with mixed results. To assess the start of the second Trump presidency, Will is joined by the editor at large of Reason magazine, and co-host of The Fifth Colu…
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BONUS: Comfortable and relaxed, with John Howard
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43:34Before he became Australia’s second-longest serving Prime Minister, then Opposition Leader John Howard famously stated that his ambition was for a country in which people should feel comfortable and relaxed about the past, present and future. Many would argue he achieved that ambition, but Australia feels like a less comfortable and relaxed place i…
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Why do some people determine an action is racist, and others say nah? What are the mental protocols people use to exonerate or convict someone accused of beings sexist? Jessi Streib is the author of "Is it Racist? Is it Sexist? Why Red and Blue White People Disagree, and How to Decide in the Gray Areas."…
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Trans women are not women (except in Australia), with Sall Grover
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1:01:23It says something about the surreal times in which we live that the Supreme Court of the United Kingdom found it necessary to confirm something that everyone with an ounce of sense already knew. Men cannot be women. Unfortunately, in Australia gender ideology is still enshrined law. Sall Grover is Australia’s leading advocate for sex-based rights, …
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BONUS: Will on Nick Dixon's 'The Current Thing' podcast
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1:25:42Earlier this week, Will joined comedian and GB News host Nick Dixon on his podcast, ‘The Current Thing.’ They chatted about the news of the week in the UK, including a poll from The Sun revealing the depths of despair in the country, Ben Habib’s new party, the Birmingham bin crisis, anti-white racism in the West Yorkshire police, Douglas Murray’s d…
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If there’s one theme that cuts across Western politics in 2025, it is the rise of right-wing populist parties and politicians, tapping into a well of resentment towards establishment politics. Trump, Farage, Le Pen, and Wilders, to name a few. Some would argue they were all late to the game, trailing an unlikely figure; a female fish and chip show …
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Faster, Cheaper, Better Government: Derek Thompson on “Abundance”
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54:38Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson are the authors of “Abundance” a book about removing artificial scarcity and embracing a worldview that focuses on end goals, building, growth, and increasing the supply of everything we need and want. He joins to discuss the book, zoning, why America can’t have nice trains, and how we can better lean into federal rese…
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Trump, Napoleon III, and the Global Economic Order
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1:26:24Just what the hell is happening with tariffs? Are we entering a trade war? Are we negotiating? In today's show: A) An extended introduction about Napoleon III and Otto von Bismarck B) Austin Padgett, co-host of "History 102" on YouTube joins to discuss Trump's tariffs from the pro-Trump perspective C) Scott Lincicome of Cato takes a dim view of she…
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Free minds and free markets, with Nick Gillespie
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1:02:02Freedom is under assault across the West. The US is reverting to 18th century economic protectionism, the UK are jailing people for tweets, and Australia gave up on the pretense of rugged individualism a long time ago. How do we fight for freedom in a world that is becoming less free? To help Will with that question, he is joined by Nick Gillespie.…
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The coming British Civil War, with David Betz
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49:24The UK is in a dark place, but surely it couldn't reach the point of civil war? Don't be so sure. To discuss the possibility of a looming conflict, Will is joined by David Betz. David is Professor of War in the Modern World at King’s College London and a Senior Fellow of the Foreign Policy Research Institute. Follow Will Kingston and Fire at Will o…
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Cory Doctorow on the Evils of Copyright Law
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1:20:43Cory Doctorow is a journalist, activist, and science fiction author known for his work on digital rights, monopolies, and the future of technology. He joins to discuss non-compete clauses, IP law, Right of Repair, and copyright regimes. His most recent book is "Picks and Shovels,” available at www.mightyheaton.com/featured.…
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The shameless cross-promotion episode, with Alex Armstrong
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57:34If you turn on the news in the UK, the chances are the stories will be negative. Mass migration, two-tier justice, woeful economic forecasts, net zero lunacy, and a complete inability of politicians to fix these problems. Are things really as bad as they appear? To help Will understand the real state of the United Kingdom in 2025, he is joined by t…
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Near Death Experiences, with Sebastian Junger
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1:08:07Sebastian Junger is a decorated war correspondent and author of books like “The Perfect Storm” and “Tribes: On Coming Home and Belonging.” Heaton was going to interview him about his last book, “Freedom,” but then Junger very nearly died, and they decided to talk about that instead. His most recent book is "In My Time of Dying: How I Came Face to F…
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Mahmoud Khalil has been detained, and will be potentially deported, by the Trump administration. Attorney Anna Gorisch joins to discuss the implications of this case, in terms of national security, immigration law, and the difference between protected and unprotected speech. Unabridged: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12QlJl8QgTKBffGXgtUjzMfLIrndTf…
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We often think of the modern era as the age of American power. In reality, we’re living in a long, violent Eurasian century. Eurasia is a strategic prize without equal—which is why the world has been roiled, reshaped and nearly destroyed by clashes over the supercontinent. To discuss the fight for Eurasia in 2025 and beyond, and how to compete with…
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The fight for Western civilisation, with Tony Abbott
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31:19Will recently attended the ARC conference in London, which was basically Coachella for conservatives. During the conference, he sat down with Australia’s 28th Prime Minister, Tony Abbott, to discuss the small matter of the future of Western civilization. The interview was released on Spectator TV, the Spectator’s YouTube channel. You can watch the …
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I Talk to a DEI Consultant about DEI
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1:49:18Andrea Jones-Rooy is a data scientist and former DEI consultant. She joins to discuss what DEI is, what DEI is not, and where it goes wrong.By Andrew Heaton, Andrea Jones-Rooy
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Ukraine: Three years on, with Francis Dearnley
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57:03The conversation that surrounds the conflict in Ukraine has become, for the most part, a political Rorschach Test. That’s a problem, because there are shades upon shades of grey in this conflict. Whilst principles and moral culpability still matter, “Good Guy v Bad Guy” morality tales don’t necessarily get us closer to the truth. As we move into th…
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Your Kids and The Department of Education
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43:31What would happen if the Trump administration tried to abolish or defund the Department of Education? What does it do, and is it a net positive or net negative in terms of tax dollars and dispensing knowledge?By Andrew Heaton
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Jeff Maurer: Revenge of the Low-Flow Toilets
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58:37What is the government doing which is irritating, and what is irritating that the government can assist with? Topics covered today include: paper straws, low-flow toilets, pennies, nickels, mail, and quitting gym membership. Jeff Maurer, author of “I Might Be Wrong” on Substack joins to discuss.By Andrew Heaton, Jeff Maurer
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How tribalism ruined politics, with Andrew Heaton
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1:03:18Politics shouldn’t be a team sport, but it has become one. Far too many of us blindly support politicians or parties as opposed to critically assessing ideas and policies. Where has this tribalism come from, how has it got so bad, and what do we do about it? To help Will answer those questions, he is joined by comedian, political satirist and autho…
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The definitive guide to the German election, with Ralph Schoellhammer
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1:03:15The Economist recently described Germany as "the hole at the heart of Europe". That’s a reasonable description, particularly given it accounts for a quarter of the EU’s output, but it has been in recession for the past two years. Another way to look at it is that Germany is a representation of Europe, and all of its challenges. Mass migration has r…
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Jonathan Rauch: Christianity Dropped the Ball on Democracy
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1:07:32Jonathan Rauch asserts that as the American Church has become increasingly concerned with the culture war and politics, it has become secularized and unappealing to its members, who are abandoning it. The result is a country increasingly spiritually adrift, churches distracted from their core missions, and a nation turning to politics as a substitu…
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The myth of free speech in Britain, with Winston Marshall
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53:14Whilst illiberal progressivism (or woke for short) appears to be in retreat, what will take its place is an open question. The right in the UK has splintered, Europe is still being suffocated by the weight of the leftist social democratic model, free speech is under assault in Australia (as it is pretty much everywhere), and whilst the Republicans …
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Who’s having sex, and how much of it are they having? Who’s getting married and who’s getting divorced? Does money, somehow, possibly, effect any of this? Cathy Reisenwitz of “Sex & The State” joins to discuss.By Andrew Heaton, Cathy Reisenwitz
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