Best Andy Dale and Pedro Pavon Podcasts (2025)

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"The Backyard Dollhouse" w/ Andrew Woods 48:55

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A&P are joined by Andrew Woods, the GC of AdTech company PubMatic, formerly of Twitter. Andrew’s origin story can be heard on the 2/22/23 Episode. This conversation focuses on the changing economic model of the internet and AI's massive impact on our future and the future of ads/privacy.

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"The Patchwork" w/ Keir Lamont 46:27

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A&P chat with Keir Lamont, Senior Director of the Future of Privacy Forum’s U.S. Legislation team. In this role he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. Notably Keir releases updates on a fortnightly cadence on State and Federal Privacy Legislation and is one of the pe…

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"Shout Out to the Cable Companies for Being Patient" w/ Julia Shullman 39:42

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The guys are joined by longtime friend Julia Shullman. She’s stepped into a role in the advertising tv space with Telly an innovative company that is also developing an actual TV that si free for consumers, with a transparent data driven ad delivery system attached. The discussion also covers the current TV advertising environment and the dynamism …

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"Wolves on Steroids" w/ Chris Sands 32:56

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Andy and Pedro sit down with Chris Sands, former CMO of the L Suite (TechGC) to discuss his new role establishing a community based recruiting function and executive hiring in general.

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"We're Too Old for Sesame Street" w/ Val Ilchenko 51:38

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Andy & Pedro chat with Val Ilchenko, GC/CPO @ TrustArc, one of the leading privacy technology companies. Val helped create and grow the privacy programs @ GoTo and LogMeIn before moving into his current role. The guys chat about the unique fun and challenges of your first leadership role in legal/privacy.…

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"M&A, IPOs and Commander's Palace" w/ Kathleen Patton 43:46

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Andy & Pedro sit down with Kathleen Patton, a GC who has literally seen it all and done it all in her impressive career. The convo targets some of the biggest issues when leading an IPO and M&A deals, but also touches on her style of confident leadership that all in-house lawyers ought to model and learn from. In addition to her stints inside compa…

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"Looking Forward to the Greenland Data Protection Act" w/ Pedro & Andy 39:37

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Andy and Pedro discuss the current climate for tech companies and the impact of an administration change in the US. They also touch on the 2025 outlook for AI tools, privacy laws and how to advise clients in this environment.

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“The Human Dimension: Hiring, Mentoring and Team Leadership” w/ Susan Rohol and Anne Bradley 1:01:25

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Andy & Pedro are joined by some great friends and incredible privacy/legal leaders Anne Bradley FPF fellow/startup advisors/founder and former Nike/Hulu CPO and Susan Rohol partner @ Willkie Farr and former Warner/Discovery CPO. We chat about hiring, mentoring and the challenges/rewards of both!

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“I’m Looking for the Trader Joe’s of Law Firms” w/ Rob Morvillo 52:14

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Andy & Pedro are joined by a good friend of the pod, Rob Morvillo - Chief Legal Officer @ Olo. The discussion focuses on the in-house lawyer’s relationship with their outside law firm counsel and how this has evolved over time.

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"McPrivacy” w/ Alan Chapell 39:10

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Andy and Pedro chat with their good friend Alan Chapell, longtime AdTech privacy lawyer and one of the key voices in the overlap between AdTech and competition law.

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"Hal from the Appliances Department" w/ Pedro & Andy 42:10

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Andy and Pedro discuss the importance of putting yourself out there in your career by speaking, writing and engaging in public conversations. They also bat around some really important concepts like what to watch on flights, motorcycle meditation and the best privacy pros to hear speak at events.

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“Episode 100! Sharp Paintbrushes” w/ Andy & Pedro 38:40

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Andy and Pedro celebrate the 100th episode of DPBC! They discuss the future of tech companies in the EU, focusing on data protection regulations and the challenges these companies face. Thank you for listening!

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"Yankees Hat at a Red Sox Game" w/ Nubiaa Shabaka 34:02

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Nubiaa Shabaka combines a wealth of expertise in privacy/cybersecurity with a deep curiosity and love of learning/collaborating. It is a skill we have consistently seen in several big organization CPOs. And Nubiaa has had some of the biggest roles you can have in privacy/cyber at a mix of very complex organizations. Currently she is the VP, & Chief…

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“Breakfast is the Play” w/ Greg Raiten 45:31

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We last talked with Greg in October of 2021. In that episode we covered Greg’s law firm days, in-house career and formation of TechGC with his Co-Founder Kiran Lingam. We catch up with Greg again to discuss the growth of the L Suite and really just the impact of “community” on our work and life. And of course we will tackle the very important quest…

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"A Browns Fan in Denmark" w/ Aaron Mendelsohn - Director, Privacy Officer @ The LEGO Group 41:55

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Would you move for your dream job? Aaron Mendelsohn did, but not a simple move. He and his family relocated to Denmark when he got an opportunity to join the LEGO Group and help support its privacy journey. We rarely see a US lawyer going to Europe and its a fascinating story. Aaron loves the LEGO Group brand deeply (and so do we). Supporting a com…

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"The Best Dressed Guest" w/ Simon McDougall, Chief Compliance Officer @ ZoomInfo and former ICO Deputy Commissioner 54:05

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Simon McDougall doesn’t take the easy road, never has. He likes hard problems and isn’t afraid to dig in and try to solve them. Simon has a deep sense of pragmatism and business balance which makes him an effective leader. He is currently the Chief Compliance Officer of ZoomInfo and was previously Deputy Commissioner for the Information Commissione…

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“Nobody’s Asking for a Federal Privacy Law” w/ Jules Polonetsky, CEO @ Future of Privacy Forum 58:18

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We last talked with Jules on March 17, 2021 over 3 years ago! A LOT has happened since. That episode was a career retro covering Jules’ time @ AOL, DoubleClick and in government. This time we dig in with Jules on the current global and US privacy laws, Artificial Intelligence, Clean Rooms, Public Policy and the role of “think tanks” in both society…

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“From Dusty Oil Paintings to NFTs” w/ Trevor Hughes - CEO and President @ IAPP 1:00:51

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In this episode, we catch up with Trevor Hughes, who has grown IAPP Membership from 300 to 80,000. We last spoke with him 3 years ago, right after January 6th. Now, amidst a rapidly changing global privacy landscape and a booming tech sector driven by AI, we revisit for fresh insights about the present and future.…

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“Didn’t you guys invent the Barcode?” w/ Christina Montgomery - Chief Privacy & Trust Officer @ IBM 46:11

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Christina Montgomery is IBM’s Chief Privacy & Trust Officer and has spent over 29 years at the company! In that time Christina has just about done it all from a legal perspective. Prior to her current role, she was Secretary to IBM’s Board of Directors, was Managing Attorney, overseeing the IBM law department’s strategic and transformational initia…

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“The Limousine to Florida: A special Episode on Sales and Legal” w / Andy & Pedro 47:38

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In this episode the guys chat 1x1 without guest about the key relationship between legal and sales. The discussion covers highs, lows, contracting, privacy negotiation and some hilarious anecdotes!

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"Responsibly Bold" w/ Keith Enright - Vice President and Chief Privacy Officer @ Google 1:00:18

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In this episode, we dive into the world of data privacy with Keith Enright, the Chief Privacy Officer at Google. Keith's long-standing leadership in the privacy profession shines as we explore his calm and steady approach to handling the vast challenges that come his way. With a track record that includes leading privacy at Macy's and serving as a …

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"Compliance is a Flowing River" w/ Harvey Jang - Vice President, Chief Privacy Officer @ Cisco 45:11

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Harvey Jang is the type of leader you want to work with. He is affable, open and leads with positive intent. In a world of constant change and at a company where IP and Innovation are literally the foundation, he leans into that dynamism and it makes him a compelling leader. In addition to Cisco, Harvey serves on the Board of Directors for the IAPP…

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"Legal Bets" w/ Tim Parilla - Chief Legal Officer @LinkSquares 58:35

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Tim Parilla is a loyal friend, teammate and confidant. He flies planes, loves dogs, cocktails and just kicking back to have some laughs. His leadership style is steady, calm and eyes on the horizon - like the pilot you want. At Linksquares leads legal, HR, Operations and IT, and works closely with product development at Linksquares, a late stage le…

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"YOLO" w/ Cynthia Cole - IP/AI/Data Privacy & Cyber/Tech | Partner @ Baker & McKenzie 52:37

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Cynthia Cole has been a GC, CEO, and Head of HR! She has also been a Partner @ Baker Botts and now at Baker McKenzie. At Baker Botts she built the technology transactions and data privacy practice. An intellectual property and tech transactions attorney, Cynthia also has expertise in AI, digital transformation, data privacy, and cybersecurity strat…

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"The Marty McFly Hat" w/ Phil Lee - Founder/MD @Digiphile 45:15

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We welcome back our good friend Phil Lee to the podcast to discuss life as a lawyer and now entrepreneur - having built his own firm Digiphile from the ground up. In addition to knowing the GDPR and all EU laws inside and out Phil is a dedicated Back to the Future and Star Wars fan, lego builder, tech lover and all around fun person to be with. He …

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"Swipe Right for Privacy" w/ Ron De Jesus, Chief Privacy Officer & Founder @ De Jesus Consulting 45:00

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Ron has had an incredible run in privacy leadership and isn’t stopping anytime soon. He’s been a critical privacy leader at Deloitte and PwC and worked for brands like Amex, Coach & Kate Spade. He drove privacy at Tinder/Match and most recently led privacy efforts at Grindr as Chief Privacy Officer. Now Ron owns his own consulting company and is a …

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"Pasta with Bread on the Side" w/ Laura Belmont, General Counsel @ Civis Analytics 58:23

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Laura Belmont, accomplished attorney and compliance professional, a leader in complex issue resolution, collaboration, and data-driven decision-making as General Counsel at Civis Analytics, blending business success with community service.

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"Blocking the Merger of Ketchup & Fries" w/ Alan Chapell, President of Chapell & Associates and Chair of the NAI Board 44:07

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Alan is the rock and roll adtech and privacy lawyer. He’s not only an actual singer/musician, but he’s a rockstar in the adtech privacy world and he’s been rocking hard for years. Alan isn’t afraid to take positions, debate issues and advocate for his clients and the industry.

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"Gym, Tan, Privacy" w/ Elise Houlik, Chief Privacy Officer @ Intuit 57:43

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Guest: Elise Houlik, Chief Privacy Officer @ Intuit Elise Houlik’s privacy team at Intuit team is deeply engaged with its business teams. A hallmark of her leadership is this type of partnership with cross-functional teams - supporting a true privacy by design and rooted privacy culture. Elise also spent time at Mastercard as SVP/Assistant General …

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"I'm not thinking about AdTech while Running" w/ Jessica Lee, Chair Privacy, Security & Data Innovations Practice @ Loeb & Loeb 32:51

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Guest: Jessica Lee, Chair Privacy, Security & Data Innovations Practice @ Loeb & Loeb Summary: Jessica Lee has a wide ranging practice covering most areas of technology, data, social media and entertainment. She’s one of those rare lawyers who can bridge the divide between practice areas with a pragmatic approach to problem solving. She’s also a ru…

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"The Back 40" w/ Amy Stewart, GC & Global Data Ethics Officer @ LiveRamp 52:27

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For many years Amy Stewart was a complex commercial litigator specializing in competition and trade secrets. After 30+ years at the Rose Law Firm in Little Rock, Arkansas, Amy took the leap to join LiveRamp as General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer. It was a wild time, as LiveRamp’s parent company Acxiom, her long-time client, had just sold its …

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"The Naturalist" w/ Dennis Olle, Partner @ Carlton Fields 51:59

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Dennis Olle has a long standing love of the natural world and brings that passion to his work as well. He is a mentor to young lawyers and an attorney who has passion for things well beyond day to day life as a partner in a law firm. He is a corporate lawyer with extensive background in capital formation, public and private offerings, and M&A trans…

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"The Thing About Vampires is..." w/ Shira Anderson, Strategy & Planning Lead - Privacy & Data Policy @ Meta 50:11

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Shira Anderson loves Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The TV show, NOT the movies to be clear. She's also a lawyer and public policy leader focused on global privacy and data policy @ Meta. Her background in international law is key in this role and past lives include stints as a PR and marketing manager, copy editor, and she served in the Israel Defense …

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"The Curious Case of the Atlanta Weed Eater" w/ Richy Glassberg, CEO and Co-Founder of SafeGuard Privacy 53:06

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Richy Glassberg knows someone you know. Well. He’s affable to the moon. And that’s a really important skill for a leader. Richy is yet another example of someone who came up in AdTech and has now embraced the privacy challenge. The DPBC podcast is a TechGC production. Learn more about the TechGC's thriving in-house legal community at techgc.co Foll…

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"Gamer Lawyer" w/ Steven Blickensderfer, Lead Privacy Counsel @ Krafton 44:17

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Steve Blickensderfer has an amazing mustache - epic one! But, he also leads privacy for public gaming company Krafton. Steve’s role is to manage the global regulatory team across all laws impacting the video game industry. The video game space is one of those sneaky challenging areas as it cuts across nearly every area of regulation. Oh and also it…

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"Follow Your Curiosity" w/ Anne Bradley, Former CPO @ Nike 41:55

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Anne Bradley is a builder of foundational privacy programs having done this with two major global brands, Nike and Hulu. In addition to building, Anne has scaled these complex orgs and created lasting privacy team legacies. The DPBC podcast is a TechGC production. Learn more about the TechGC's thriving in-house legal community at techgc.coFollow Te…

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"Captain of the Ship" w/ Cory Munchbach, CEO @ BlueConic 50:48

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The Customer Data Platform (CDP) space has grown massively in the last 5 years. CDPs often present different capabilities in different verticals with value props that vary. But, in every use case privacy and data sit at the center. And, BlueConic CEO Cory Munchbach has understood that for a long time going all the way back to her time as an analyst…

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"A 27 Hour Bus Ride to Nowhere” w/ Susan Rohol, Former CPO @ Warner Bros Discovery 43:21

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Susan Rohol has worked in various privacy leadership roles at Warner for over 5 years and was with Nike leading Privacy, Data and IP Policy. She has also worked on the Senate Judiciary Committee. Susan brings a highly practical approach to incredibly complex problems. And she couples this with deep legal knowledge, balance and sense of humor.The DP…

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"Privacy BFFFs" w/ Julia Shullman, Co-Founder @ Coir & Principal @ Shullman Advisory (former GC/CPO @ TripleLift and Chief Privacy Counsel @ AppNexus/Xandr) 50:42

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Julia Shullman is the most technical privacy lawyer you’ll find. She spent countless hours with tech teams at AppNexus, Xandr and TripleLift to become proficient in data flows and how technology fuels advertising. Now with Coir and in her work as a Consultant she melds her technical skills and acumen for ever-shifting privacy laws to help companies…

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"Privacy Artisans" w/ Adam Rivera, Senior Privacy Leader @ Doordash 32:52

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Employment lawyer to DoorDash privacy lead. Not your typical path, but then again how many “typical” paths are there to anything? Adam Rivera has had a career that has spanned consumer goods, tech providers in the legal and news space, financial services and now at a leading local commerce and tech company. This variety has given him a broad privac…

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"Poker Face" w/ Andrew Woods, GC @ PubMatic 57:04

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Andrew Woods has a POV. He’s not going to lob legal advice over a fence and walk away. He will have a take and will be deeply engaged in the decision-making process. Andrew was a law firm associate, founder/GC then an adtech lawyer at Turn. Eventually he landed at Twitter and his role grew as the leader of the commercial legal for Twitter’s revenue…

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"Everything I do...I do it for Privacy" w/ Mark Cockerill - VP Legal - Corporate, Securities, M&A and International Development @ ServiceNow 42:48

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Mark Cockerill is a lawyer who gets right to the point. Frankly he doesn’t have time to waste! He’s a busy dad of 3 and the site lead for ServiceNow’s active presence in Ireland, as well as an interest in American Football of all things. His current remit covers a broad array of legal issues - but he also ran ServiceNow’s global privacy program for…

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"The 3D GC" w/ Shirley Paley, General Counsel @ Formlabs 32:41

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Shirley Paley sees the big picture. She’s a strategic GC and leader covering companies with varied legal needs. While her background is in IP she has a multifaceted legal leadership approach having served as GC at 2 very different companies. Prior to those GC roles she was instrumental in the growth and eventual acquisition of Demandware by Salesfo…

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"Ghosts of Privacy Future" w/ Todd Ruback, Managing Director - Privacy @ FTI Consulting, former GC/CPO at Evideon/Ghostery 47:21

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The original “collaborator” CPO is Todd Ruback. For years he has run a NYC based roundtable of top CPOs who can focus on real world privacy issues behind closed doors. Todd dove deep into AdTech in 2012 as CPO/GC of Evidon/Ghostery the formative website cookie tool. Since then Todd has led consulting groups at Promontory and now FTI. The DPBC podca…

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"Vagabonds" w/ Daniel Barber, Co-Founder & CEO @ DataGrail 47:22

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Daniel Barber founded DataGrail in 2018 after a successful run in tech sales and biz dev. Daniel came up in the early days of MarTech with Responsys, Datanyze, ToutApp and others. DataGrail solves data privacy challenges with a host of integrations and DSR flow management tools. Daniel recently announced that DataGrail raised a $45 Series C financi…

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"El Transportista" w/ Omer Tene, Partner @ Goodwin & former Chief Knowledge Officer @ IAPP 44:14

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We’re joined by Omer Tene our friend from his IAPP days! Omer is one of the leading data protection law and policy practitioners in the world. Rarely does someone beat him to analysis of new laws or issues on Twitter. He’s a must-follow and one of the top thinkers in our space! And he’s got a great sense of humor to boot. The DPBC podcast is a Tech…

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"Deep Cut: Spongebob The Musical" w/ Manas Mohapatra, GC @ Trust Machines 51:33

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Manas Mohapatra is one of those rare lawyers that can context shift quickly and not lose a step in legal and business analysis. He led the early days Privacy Program at Twitter after some time with the FTC and a law firm. Following Twitter he was CPO at Viacom navigating a massive, matrixed media conglomerate. Eventually Manas moved to BNY focusing…

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"Horse Photography, Synthetic Data, and the Rise of the Machines" w/ Alexandra Ebert, Chief Trust Officer @ Mostly AI 47:03

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Andy & Pedro speak with Alexandra Ebert, a Responsible AI, synthetic data & privacy expert who serves as Chief Trust Officer at MOSTLY AI. As a member of the company's executive leadership team, she is engaged in public policy issues in the emerging field of synthetic data and Ethical AI and is responsible for engaging with the privacy community, w…

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"Threat Hunter" with Victoria Beckman, Lead - Digital Crimes Unit @ Microsoft 49:39

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Our guest is Victoria Beckman, long time privacy and cyber lawyer who has seen it all. She’s now leading the Digital Crimes Americas Team at Microsoft. Learn more about the community that helps General Counsels in their day to day, TechGC (https://www.techgc.co/) Follow Andy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-dale-7705b83/ Follow TechGC …

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"Oh no, I'm breaking the law..." w/ Manuel Martinez-Herrera, GC @ BetterCloud 47:11

3y ago47:11

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Manuel Martinez-Herrera is GC and Exec sponsor of D&I at BetterCloud. He took BetterCloud through a recent acquisition by Vista Equity Partners. Manuel has been practicing law for more than 15 years including stints in Barcelona, Madrid, Buenos Aires, and New York. Before BetterCloud, Manuel held roles at Namely, MetLife and was an associate at Whi…

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