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Exvangelical

Blake Chastain

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Exploring the world inside and outside the evangelical subculture, one conversation at a time. "Exvangelical" is a shared starting point with many destinations; it acknowledges the impact (predominantly white/white-led) evangelicalism has had on our lives, but does not dictate our current or future beliefs & practices. On this podcast, you'll hear stories of people who've left evangelicalism for other branches of Christianity, for other spiritual traditions, and for none at all. All paths ar ...
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On this show, we challenge dangerous teachings found in various strands of Christianity while also taking seriously Jesus’s own teachings that lead us into dangerous places. Hosted by Brian Kaylor, president & editor-in-chief of Word&Way.
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REVcovery

Justin Gentry, Sarah Heath

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A podcast about leaving ministry, recovering from being a professional Christian, and finding meaning after a calling. Welcome to the Revcovery Room.
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Rock That Doesn’t Roll looks at how Christian music shaped the world we're living in now by telling individual stories from the peak era of the contemporary Christian music industry. In the 80s, 90s and early 2000s CCM grew into a billion dollar business that affected millions of evangelical young people. Through interviews with artists, industry players and average fans we trace the long-lasting personal, cultural and political impact of sometimes cringe-worthy music. Expect hilarious momen ...
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Below Deck's own Kate Chastain recaps new episodes of the hit Bravo show. Along with a new guest in each episode, Kate breaks down the latest hookups and blowups from Below Deck, discusses yachtie culture and serves up the juiciest gossip from the high seas. Tweet us your questions @AfterDeckTweets with #BravoAfterDeck.
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A Tiny Revolution

Kevin Garcia

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Because all revolutions begin as conversations between friends. Join spiritual director + mystic theologian, author / speaker, Kevin Miguel Garcia for a conversation that actually matters. Covering the intersections of spirit, sexuality, gender, and justice, Kevin curates convos with the brightest and most incredible humans that you may or may not have heard of, with delicious takes on faith, sexuality, practice, and how we do this life together. Join us each week for another conversation to ...
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Shannon Fleck, the new executive director of Faithful America. She discusses Christian Nationalism in Oklahoma and nationally. You can watch a video version of his conversation on YouTube. Fleck's predecessor, Rev. Nathan Empsall, previously appeared on episode 61 of Dangerous Dogma. He al…
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with sociologist Ruth Braunstein about her documentary podcast When the Wolves Came. You can also find her writings at her Substack newsletter Democracy Is Hard. Mentioned in the episode is Caleb Campbell, who previously appeared on episode 150 of Dangerous Dogma. Note: Don't forget to subscrib…
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Originally published on YouTube on 3/7/2025. I'm between author interviews, and March is traditionally a difficult month for me. Here is a brief minisode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://www.postevangelicalpost.com/about…
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with journalist and Lutheran minister Angela Denker about her forthcoming book Disciples of White Jesus: The Radicalization of American Boyhood. You can watch a video version of this conversation here. You can also hear an earlier conversation with Denker in episode 68, and a conversation with …
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with historian David Swartz about his new narrative podcast project Rebel on Main, which offers a historical and contemporary exploration of a Kentucky county and its unusual Confederate statue. You can watch a video version of this conversation here. (You can also hear an earlier episode with …
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Folks welcome to episode 100! It has been a wild and immensely rewarding ride of which we are incredibly grateful. So many amazing people have been a part of this show and while in some ways this episode marks the end of an era we also are very excited about what is next. If you would like to be a part of the ongoing conversation on Discord you can…
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Rev. Munther Isaac, pastor of the Evangelical Lutheran Christmas Church in Bethlehem, about his forthcoming book Christ in the Rubble: Faith, the Bible, and the Genocide in Gaza. He also talks about Donald Trump's plan to "take over" Gaza, the importance of using the terms "genocide" and "…
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On Tuesday (Feb. 25), a session of the Oklahoma Senate transformed into a spontaneous Bible study. Or perhaps more of a Bible study cosplay demonstrating how not to read the Bible, specifically how not to read the Book of Proverbs. In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor unpacks the errors in how Proverbs was cited by a state senator tryin…
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In this episode of The Good Books, I spoke with Dr. Matthew D. Taylor, author of The Violent Take It By Force: The Christian Movement That Is Threatening Our Democracy. We talk about the growth of independent charismatic Christianity, the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and its role in J6 and ongoing support for Trump, and what's happened in the fi…
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This week we welcome Loga Isaac to the show to talk about the intersection of faith, the military and civil rights. Its a fascinating discussion and we are so happy to share it with you. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Leon Karagoezian. You …
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Karrie Gaspard-Hogewood, a sociology doctoral fellow at Tulane University, about a protest march she organized to counter an event by Christian Nationalistic musician Sean Feucht in New Orleans on Feb. 8, 2025. You can learn more about Feucht at A Public Witness, including reports on his p…
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with Rev. Paul Raushenbush, president and CEO of Interfaith Alliance, about various ways the Trump administration has targeted Christian groups, including Episcopalians, Catholics, and Lutherans. You can read more about the recent attacks on Lutheran charity work in a report at A Public Witness…
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You may know her from the viral video "How Can We Win?" which rocketed her into spotlight right around the same time the BLM movement gained a lot of traction. She's a writer, a speaker and an activist, it's Kimberly Latrice Jones! Follow her everywhere @KimberlyLatriceJones, and get the book "How We Can Win: History, Race, and Changing the Money G…
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In this episode, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor talks with John Danforth, a former U.S. Senator and Episcopal priest, about the controversy over Episcopal Bishop Mariann Budde's sermon during an inauguration prayer service at the Washington National Cathedral. You can read more about the issue at A Public Witness, including a report on the sermon,…
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The GOAT, the very first Enby to be interviewed on national TV, author, activist, coach, and badass, its JEFFREY FRIGGIN MARSH! Follow them @JeffreyMarsh across social media, and get their book, Take Your Own Advice from your fave local book shop. ... If you are interested in working with me, you can learn more at thekevingarcia.com/coaching , and …
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This week we welcome Colin Connor, Host of The Bible Uncut and Unfiltered Podcast, to talk about navigating changing relationships, ministry horror stories, and the Bible of course. Its a delightful conversation you won't want to miss. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery…
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In this minisode recorded on MLK Day/Inauguration Day 2025, I consider where counterpublics might be able to thrive in today's media landscape. I've written about counterpublics before in my book, and in my newsletter. Programming Note: I have work-related travel over the next two weeks, but will have more interviews and longer episodes to share st…
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This week, I’m joined by the incredible Rev. Lizzie McManus-Dail (she/her). Lizzie is the founding planter of Jubilee Episcopal Church in Austin, Texas, a TikTok and Instagram creator with over 80k followers, and the co-host of the podcast And Also With You. She’s passionate about a God who delights in us and invites us to reconnect with joy, which…
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This week we welcome Liz Charlotte Grant to the show to talk about her new book "Knocking at the Sky: Seeking God in Genesis after Losing Faith in the Bible" as well as to discuss all the ins and outs of having a relationship with the Bible and the church while reevaluating what it all even means. Its a lovely conversation that we hope inspires and…
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In this episode of A Tiny Revolution, host Kevin Garcia engages in a heartfelt conversation with Grace Semler Baldridge, professionally known as Semler. Semler is an American musician and media host who made history as the first openly queer artist to top the iTunes Christian music charts with their EP Preacher's Kid. Wikipedia During the discussio…
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Joe Blosser talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book To Love Our Neighbors: Radical Practices in Solidarity, Sufficiency, and Sustainability. He also discusses understandings of how a neighbor is, church food pantries, and economic neoliberalism. Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witness…
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We're back, you heauxs! In this episode, I’m joined by filmmaker Jason Ikeler, the director of the upcoming documentary Safe for the Whole Family. We dive into Jason’s personal and professional journey, the inspiration behind this powerful film, and how evangelical media shaped—and often distorted—a generation’s understanding of faith, identity, an…
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Buy tickets for our live show in Chicago on January 5! It's the second annual Rock That Doesn't Roll CCM Christmas Song Awards! Listen to find out what awards Amy Grant, Sarah Masen, Carman, Stryper and David Meece won this year. Do you have a song that deserves an award? Leave us a message at (629) 777-6336. If you want more seasons of Rock That D…
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Bruce Chilton, professor of religion at Bard College, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book The Herods: Murder, Politics, and the Art of Succession. He also discusses the political issues at play in New Testament stories like the birth, teachings, and death of Jesus. This episode is being reissued and was originally released…
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Christi Harlan talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new books Mr. President, The Class Is Yours: Jimmy Carter's Sunday School Lessons in Washington, D.C. and Normal Lives: President Jimmy Carter and His Church. She also discusses Carter's teaching style and humor, as well as the church's history. Note: Don't forget to subscribe to o…
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Samuel Perry, a professor of sociology at the University of Oklahoma, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Religion for Realists: Why We All Need the Scientific Study of Religion. He also discusses issues of religious identity, partisanship, and Christian Nationalism. He previously appeared on episode 46. Note: Don't forget…
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This week we share some of our initial thoughts about the election and what it means for those of us that have left ministry, are still in it, or are shifting more rapidly than the community that surrounds us is. This was recorded only a few days after the results were in so its a bit raw, honest, and some of the points me made might be made differ…
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In this episode I talk about what's next for this show and for, well, all of us. Some of my comments are from my latest newsletter missives: Well, here we are - Post Ev Post Coming Soon: (More of) The Good Books - Post Ev Post Exvangelicals, nones, secular Americans are undertapped in fight against Christian nationalism - RNS Subscribe to my newsle…
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This episode features a conversation originally recorded in May 2020 for the podcast Baptist Without An Adjective. In it, Word&Way President Brian Kaylor interviewed author and sociologist Tony Campolo. The author of 35 books and a longtime professor at Eastern University, Campolo died on Nov. 19 at the age of 89. This conversation is being rebroad…
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Grace Ji-Sun Kim, a professor of theology at Earlham School of Religion, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book When God Became White: Dismantling Whiteness for a More Just Christianity. She also discusses issues of racism, patriarchy, and Christian Nationalism. She previously appeared on episode 145. She writes a Substack ne…
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Drew Strait, a New Testament professor at Anabaptist Mennonite Biblical Seminary, talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about his new book Strange Worship: Six Steps for Challenging Christian Nationalism. He also discusses issues of strategic nonviolence, empathy, and suspicion of state power. Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winni…
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This week we welcome Leslie Nease back to the show to talk about her new book Honoring the Journey: The Deconstruction of Sister Christian (you can order it here). Leslie reflects on her journey since becoming public about her deconstruction and how we hold the tensions between who we were and who we are becoming. Its a fantastic conversation that …
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In this quick episode, I talk about the 2024 US Election. Show notes: My latest entry at The Post-Evangelical Post Emily Joy Allison addressing white exvangelicals on Instagram. Kristin Du Mez: Preparing for Tuesday Robert P. Jones: The Survey Findings Keeping Me Up at Night - Buy my book: Exvangelical & Beyond: How American Christianity Went Radic…
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Charlie Peacock is a renowned figure in the music industry for his solo albums, production work, songwriting and his record label RE:Think, which launched Switchfoot and Sarah Mason. Outside of the music industry spotlight he and his wife Andi Ashworth were creating a very unique space in Nashville called The Art House. Their experiences with The A…
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Journalist and author Bekah McNeel talks with Word&Way President Brian Kaylor about her new book This Is Going to Hurt: Following Jesus in a Divided America. She also discusses addressing issues of immigration, education, and guns. She previously appeared on episode 70. Note: Don't forget to subscribe to our award-winning e-newsletter A Public Witn…
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