Welcome to the Build to Billions podcast, the ultimate guide for successful entrepreneurs and investors ready to scale from millions to billions. We believe that the key to exponential growth lies in a mindset and practice of stewardship over ownership, rooted in billionaire biblical principles. Each episode is designed to help you compound your wealth and elevate your life, so you can give more of it away to support the MVPsāthose who need it most. Join us on this transformative journey to ...
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Brett Swarts Podcasts
Being a CRE Agent and Building Passive Wealth at the same time used to be complicated. NOT ANYMORE WITH eXp COMMERCIAL! Learn how eXp Commercial is the Netflix vs old Blockbuster type CRE brokerage model such as Marcus & Millichap, Cushman & Wakefield, JLL, CBRE, Keller Williams Commercial, & Sperry Van Ness. Start building wealth for yourself, your family, and your team (NETFLIX WAY) vs for the BIG corporation and old way of doing things (Blockbuster). Learn how eXp Commercial inspires more ...
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Welcome to the Capital Gains Tax Solutions Podcast Are you considering selling a million-dollar-plus business, cryptocurrency, luxury primary home, commercial real estate, or another highly appreciated asset but concerned about the capital gains tax? Want to reinvest into a diversified portfolio of real estate or securities at the optimal time while making a meaningful impact with your wealth? Each episode, Brett Swarts sits down with some of the worldās top minds in real estate, finance, we ...
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The #1 Podcast For Real Estate Investing. Jason Balin from Hard Money Bankers and Ian Horowitz From Equity Warehouse share real time information on what is going on today in our real estate and small business communities. They bring in local experts to share their opinions on what is currently happening in others businesses and communities in real time.
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The Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, with Dave Gulas of EZDC 3PL, is your weekly dose of real talk with the people actually building successful businesses. We bring you unfiltered conversations with the founders, the dreamers, and the doers who are truly making things happen. We're cutting through the noise to show you what it really takes for business growth.. Think of it as a backstage pass to the entrepreneurial journey āfrom overcoming tough challenges to celebrating big victories, and every ...
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Entrepreneur Magazine calls Justin Donald āThe Warren Buffett of Lifestyle Investing.ā Imagine being able to earn passive income, long-term equity, and achieve financial freedom while gaining total freedom from your business or a job. Thatās what Lifestyle Investing is all about. Justin Donald has mastered the low-risk cash flow investment principles he shares with entrepreneurs around the world. His alternative investing principles center on creating passive income and significant wealth wh ...
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Bringing you the innovators, investors, and leaders across the full spectrum of assisted living and senior housing, all of whom provide for the betterment of our senior population.
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9-5 jobs are the most common method of earning money. But, of course, the best way to build wealth is to go beyond the corporate setting and grow your finances as you sleep. You can achieve that by investing. If you are thinking about giving S&P 500 a try, it's time to widen your perspective to see a much more lucrative option ā real estate investing. Welcome to Real Estate Investing Demystified, your friendly guide to exploring everything about real estate. Discover what opportunities await ...
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Uplevel: Make Money with Airbnb, Short-Term Rentals, Real Estate Investing, Passive Income Strategies
Ginny Townsend - 6-Figure Airbnb Host, Short-Term Rental Strategist
Are you a driven entrepreneur who wants to go to create new income streams but don't know where to start? Tell me if this sounds like you⦠You want to uplevel your strategies, marketing, mindset, and tactics, so you can achieve true TIME FREEDOM and FINANCIAL FREEDOM... Yet⦠here you sit frustrated, overwhelmed, distracted, in analysis paralysis, and totally unsure of which strategy is right for you⦠Whatās up? Iām Ginny. Iām here to gift you the tools and strategies to help you CREATE AN IN ...
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The Nuts & Bolts of Real Estate Investing podcast is here to help you take your real estate game to the next level. *This applies to ANY real estate market* Julie & Joe have been in the real estate investing arena for over 20 years, through up markets and down markets, and they are passionate about sharing their story with you. The The Nuts & Bolts of Real Estate Investing is part of the Seattle Investors Club and is an actual real estate meet up, run by Julie & Joe, and this podcast is an a ...
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If youāre a veteran real estate investor, just starting your journey as a real estate pro, or simply fascinated by the entrepreneurial spirit then this podcast is for you. This is the Hustle Harder Real Estate Podcast hosted by James Gaskin and powered by Renovo Financial. As a lender to real estate investors since 2011, weāve had the honor of helping thousands of talented real estate entrepreneurs build their dream life one 2x4 at a time ā this podcast is about them. We believe that real es ...
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Deferred Sales Trust Secrets with Brett Swarts - #245
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38:56Deferred Sales Trust Secrets with Brett Swarts - #245 In this episode of the Real Estate Reserve Podcast, Jason and Ian sit down with Brett Swarts, Founder of Capital Gains Tax Solutions, to break down the Deferred Sales Trust (DST)āa powerful, lesser-known strategy to defer capital gains taxes on the sale of real estate, businesses, crypto, and otā¦
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From Cold Calls to Capital Gains: Persisting through adversity with Brett Swarts
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25:31In this episode of Beyond Fulfillment, host Dave Gulas sits down with Brett Swarts, founder of Capital Gains Tax Solutions, to dive deep into the entrepreneurial grind and real strategies for thriving through tough times. Brett shares his personal story, from weathering the financial storm of 2008 to building a unique firm that helps entrepreneurs,ā¦
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245: The Capital Gains Tax Strategy Youāve Never Heard Of (But Should Be Using) with Brett Swarts
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33:44What if you could cash out of any assetāwithout paying capital gains taxāand use the full value to create lasting financial freedom? Thatās exactly what Brett Swarts helps high-net-worth entrepreneurs and investors do every dayāusing the Deferred Sales Trust (which is what todayās episode is all about). Brett is the Founder and CEO of Capital Gainsā¦
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Mastering the Pivot: Richard Blankās Path to Building a Call-Center Empire
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29:38In this episode, we dive deep into the entrepreneurial journey of Richard Blank, CEO of Costa Ricaās Call Center. Richard reveals how he went from a Spanish major in Philadelphia to building a thriving business in Central Americaās vibrant BPO industry. Richard shares honest insights on overcoming early career uncertainty, breaking free from societā¦
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Tax Deferral & Risk Strategy with Van Carlson
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Deals, Data & Real Estate Dreams with Ryan Sudeck
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Strategizing for Uncertainty: How Trumpās Tariff Volatility is Reshaping Global Trade
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38:32In this episode, Dave Gulas sits down with Jim Tompkins to break down the latest developments in global tariffs and what they mean for entrepreneurs, small business owners, and founders navigating todayās unpredictable landscape. Get insight on President Trumpās negotiation style, the impact of new reciprocal tariffs set for August 1st, and how ecoā¦
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Jeffry Elliott - Crossing Over: Using Corporate Finance Background To Invest In Real Estate!
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50:15Corporate finance in real estate investing isnāt just about numbersāitās about vision, structure, and long-term play. In this powerful conversation, Jeffry Elliott, Founder and CEO of Elevex Capital, shares how his extensive background in banking and corporate finance became the springboard for a thriving real estate and equipment finance portfolioā¦
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Creating Sustainable Passive Income with Craig McGrouther
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Secrets to Success with Former Black Hawk Pilot Elizabeth McCormick
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Creating Problems for Growth. The Power of Disruption with Ted Santos
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36:06In this episode, Dave Gulas sits down with Ted Santos, the seasoned founder of Turnaround Investment Partners, to explore fresh approaches to growth, innovation, and company culture that matter to every entrepreneur, small business owner, or founder. Ted shares candid stories from his 20+ years guiding leaders, including how a lesson from American ā¦
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How Should Inflation Be Measured with Michael Kelly
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247: The Ad Copywriter Behind Billion Dollar Brands with Roy H. Williams
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1:07:17Want to know the biggest reason your marketing isnāt working? It doesnāt reflect you. Most ads are generic. They could work for any business. But the best ads only work for oneābecause theyāre built around the true personality of the founder or brand. Theyāre specific, not because of the product, but because of whoās behind it. Thatās what makes thā¦
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Bay Area Real Estate & the 2025 Outlook with Craig McGrouther
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From Firefighter to 70 Units a Year: Josh Swartās Blueprint for Building Wealth
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59:59In this episode, James sits down with Josh Swart in his Concord, NC studio to unpack his journey from firefighter to full-time real estate investor building and renting 70+ units a year. Josh shares how he went from grunt demo jobs as a teenager to developing subdivisions, the lessons learned from big wins and big losses, and how building the rightā¦
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Black Hawk Lessons in Leadership Elizabeth McCormick
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Big Beautiful Bill Business and Investor Secrets with Michael Uadiale
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The Future of Philanthropy with CharityBuzz CEO Ben Erwin
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Redefining Access to News: How Entrepreneur Adam Koehler is Disrupting the Publishing Industry
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20:40In this episode of the Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, Adam Koehler shares his journey from co-founding DotLoop, sold to Zillow for a nine-figure sum, to launching Content Credits, an innovative solution to the publishing industryās struggles. Host Dave Gulas dives deep with Adam into the realities of startup life, why launching DotLoop during the 2008ā¦
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Why Invest In Built-To-Rent with Flint Jamison
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246: The Hollywood Director Who Lives Life on His Terms Matt Earl Beesley
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58:53Today, weāre switching things up. This episode isnāt about money. Itās about meaning. And someone who knows a lot about that subject is Matt Earl Beesley, who turned a childhood love of film into a decades-long directing careerāand is now channeling that experience into a passion project with a powerful message, all while building a life and careerā¦
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Navigating the New Tax Bill with Michael Uadiale
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Tariff Twists and Global Trade: Jim Tompkins on Trumpās Trade Pause and What Comes Next
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33:08In this episode, industry veteran Jim Tompkins dives into timely strategies for navigating tariffs, international trade, and the fast-changing global supply chain. Jim shares his predictions on U.S. trade policies, breaks down the real impact of tariffs on manufacturers and importers, and explains why political and economic factors are shaping todaā¦
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From Spare Bedroom to Eight Figures: Lessons in Grit and Growth with Justin Snyder
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28:03In this episode, Dave sits down with Justin Snyder, founder of Forest Superfoods, to explore Justinās remarkable journey from packing orders in his spare bedroom to building an 8-figure superfoods brand in Australia. Justin shares how a fascination with health foods, cultivated during travels in India, led him to launch Forest Superfoods, despite lā¦
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Turning Experiences into Impact with Ben Erwin
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How to Think Like a Billionaire with Jeff Sarti
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The Secret Systems for Sustainable Growth w/ Anne Gannon
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Diversified Wealth Management and Economic Skepticism with Jeff Sarti
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Disrupting 3PL Matchmaking: Inside Racklifyās Startup Success With Bill Carlin
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24:35In this episode, host Dave Gulas sits down with Bill Carlin, co-founder and CMO of Racklify, to dig into the behind-the-scenes story of building a digital marketplace in the 3PL (third-party logistics) industry. Bill shares how his journey started as an e-commerce seller, evolved into running a fulfillment warehouse, and led him to create Racklifyāā¦
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Roundtable | Trends, Tribulations, and Independence Day
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45:39In this roundtable, James Gaskin and Kevin Werner unpack the current lending environment and share an insiderās perspective on the real estate private credit market. They discuss trends from the recent National Private Lenders Association (NPLA) conference, the challenges of balancing abundant capital with responsible lending, and the importance ofā¦
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AI, M&A, and the Next Wave in Logistics; Expert Insights from Ben Gordon
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28:08In this episode, we dive deep into the world of supply chain M&A, entrepreneurship, and business growth with Ben Gordon, founder of Cambridge Capital and BGSA. Ben shares the inside story behind the $160 million Green Screens AI exit, detailing how predictive pricing and AI-powered analytics are reshaping the logistics industry. He reveals how the ā¦
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From the Fairway to Financial Growth with Anne Gannon
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Dustin Heiner - The Deal That Changed My Life
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7:20Dustin Heiner - The Deal That Changed My Life In this episode of the Real Estate Reserve Podcast, hosts Jason Balin and Ian Horowitz welcome back real estate investor and founder of Master Passive Income, Dustin Heiner, to share the deal that changed his life. Dustin opens up about the second property he ever boughtāthe pivotal moment that transforā¦
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The Secrets to Lasting Wealth with Antony Joffe
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How to Keep More of Your Wealth with Eric Pierre
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Beyond The Hype: The Realities of Building Wealth Through Real Estate with Spencer Hilligoss
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31:53In this episode, Dave interviews Spencer Hilligoss, co-founder of Madison Investing, who shares his honest journey from a demanding 13-year tech career in Silicon Valley to building a thriving real estate investing business with his wife. Spencer talks about navigating the reality behind the romanticized vision of real estate investing, overcoming ā¦
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$7 to $7M+, Becoming a Silicon Valley Tech Millionaire with Thomas Alexander
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244: How to Build Wealth Without Sacrificing Your Family with Chad Willardson
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49:55You set out to build wealth, then realized your family was getting the leftovers. But it doesnāt have to be either-or, you can thrive in both. Today, Iām talking with Chad Willardsonāwealth advisor to 8 & 9-figure founders, serial entrepreneur, bestselling author, and father of fiveāwhoās figured out how to scale his wealth and stay fully present fā¦
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Fiduciary Trusts and Preserving Family Wealth with Antony Joffe
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Real Estate & Interest Rate Shifts Explained with Joe Root #244
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36:54Real Estate & Interest Rate Shifts Explained with Joe Root #244 In this episode of the Real Estate Reserve Podcast, hosts Jason Balin and Ian Horowitz sit down with Joe Root, a multifamily investor and managing partner at E-Superior Real Estate Partners, to dig into whatās really happening in todayās real estate and debt markets. Joe shares his uniā¦
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From Severe Dyslexia to Successful Entrepreneur: Beating the Odds with Benjamin Shrader
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36:12In this episode of the Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, host Dave Gulas sits down with Benjamin Schrader, visionary entrepreneur and founder of Schrader Promotions. Benjamin shares his personal journey overcoming severe dyslexia, dysgraphia, and dyscalculiaāa trifecta of learning challengesāwhile navigating the world of business as an underdog. Listenerā¦
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Tax Strategies, Financial Planning, and Business Collaboration wih Eric Pierre
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Dave Seymour - The Deal That Changed My Life
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8:16Dave Seymour - The Deal That Changed My Life In this episode of The Deal That Changed My Life, weāre back in the studio with none other than Dave Seymourāformer firefighter, star of Flipping Boston, and full-throttle real estate investor. š„ Dave shares the gritty, hilarious, and downright genius story of the first deal that truly changed his life: ā¦
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The Vital Strategies for Success with Patrick Lonergan
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Mastering Communication with Julian Treasure
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Turning Crisis Into Opportunity: Small Businesses Strategies During Uncertainty with Sri Kaza
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26:01In this episode of the Beyond Fulfillment Podcast, host Dave Gulas interviews Sri Kaza, former McKinsey partner and accomplished entrepreneur, as he dives deep into surviving business downturns, scaling up after setbacks, and building resilient companies that customers love. In this value-packed interview, Sri shares: How his experience at McKinseyā¦
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Beverly Hills Defer Capital Gains Tax on Luxury Home with Julia Delorme
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243: He Analyzed 1,000+ Billionaire Strategies (Hereās What He Found) with Richard Wilson
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36:29What if you could tap into the exact investment strategies billionaires use to multiply their wealthāwithout being one? In this episode, Iām joined by Richard Wilson, founder of the Family Office Club and Billionaires.com. Over the last 18 years, Richard has analyzed over 1,000 billionaire strategies, advised more than 250 family offices, and builtā¦
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Financial Strategies, Cash Flow, and Tax Planning with Patrick Lonergan
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Outgrowing Yourself: The 3 Cs to Scale Fast with Pat Alacqua
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28:00In this episode, host Dave Gulas dives deep with Pat Alacqua, a seasoned entrepreneur known for guiding businesses through every stage of growth. Pat shares how his early years working in his grandfatherās grocery store shaped his approach to business, and why being impatient can actually help, and sometimes hurt, entrepreneurial progress. Pat breaā¦
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