Best Bureau Of Land Management Podcasts (2025)

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#29 - Our Common Ground w/ John Leshy 1:06:20

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7h ago1:06:20

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In this episode, I interview John Leshy, an influential academic and public servant who has served in multiple presidential administrations in the realm of public lands management and its associated politics. Our discussion covers John’s interest and career progression in public lands, key legislative and administrative milestones, the evolution of…

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53. Time Spent with Wild Horses 8:15

9d ago8:15

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Have you wondered what it's like to be in the field, on the land, spending time with wild horses? I spend countless hours in Wyoming's wild horse territory, watching, photographing, and connecting with these magnificent creatures. My recent trip to Salt Wells Creek Herd Management Area reminded me of the profound impact these wild horses have on th…

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#28 - An Enduring Battle for Montana Wilderness w/ Bill Cunningham 2:07:04

11d ago2:07:04

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In this episode, I interview Bill Cunningham, a longtime Montana wilderness advocate with a deep and rich history from the 1970s to the present. Bill discusses the intricate legislative battles that framed the preservation of Montana's wilderness, including the Montana Wilderness Study Area Act, protecting the Absaroka-Beartooth Wilderness Complex,…

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#27 - Hunt Quietly w/ Matt Rinella 1:24:19

19d ago1:24:19

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In this episode, I speak with Matt Rinella, an avid hunter and public lands advocate with the group Hunt Quietly. Our conversation is wide-ranging and touches on a variety of subjects including; livestock grazing, hunter access, social media impacts on the hunter experience, the commercialization of the pastime, trophy hunting, hunting organization…

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#26 - The Worst Public Lands Bill in History? w/ Wes Siler 42:21

26d ago42:21

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In this episode, I welcome Wes Siler back to the program to discuss the ongoing legislative challenges surrounding public lands in Washington D.C. We discuss the implications of potential land sell-offs which could total more than 1/2 million acres in Utah and Nevada, the motives behind political actions by figures like Ryan Zinke, and the efficien…

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52. What Project 2025 Means for Wild Horses: Interview with Debbie Coffey 30:09

30d ago30:09

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Is the fate of America’s wild horses at risk? Project 2025’s proposal to "dispose humanely" of nearly 68,000 wild horses and burros in holding facilities has alarming implications. This isn’t wildlife management—it’s extinction. In this powerful episode, I talk with wild horse advocate and FOIA expert Debbie Coffey about the troubling consequences …

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#25 - Open Season on Public Lands w/ More Than Just Parks 1:18:43

1M ago1:18:43

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In this episode, I interview the Pattiz brothers—founders of More Than Just Parks—to cover a range of pressing issues related to public lands. Will and Jim discuss their personal journey from creating films about national parks and public lands to taking an active role in advocating for the protection of public lands from acute threats under the cu…

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#24 - The Great Big Giant Sequoia Scam w/ Dr. Chad Hanson 54:42

1M ago54:42

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In this episode, I am joined by Dr. Chad Hanson of the John Muir Project to discuss the unique ecological role of giant sequoias and the critical importance of high-intensity fires for their reproduction. Chad outlines the widespread misunderstanding among policymakers and the public about these majestic trees and forests, emphasizing that low-inte…

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#23 - Unveiling the Timber Industry's Grip on Public Lands w/ Ryan Talbott 39:27

1M ago39:27

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In this episode, I speak with Ryan Talbott the Pacific Northwest Conservation Advocate for WildEarth Guardians, about their work monitoring the Forest Service and BLM timber sale programs in the Pacific Northwest and beyond. Ryan discusses the origins and achievements of the Legacy Roads and Trails program, the impact of recent legislative and admi…

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51. Comment Against the Zeroing Out of Wyoming’s Checkerboard Herds 15:44

1M ago15:44

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Are our wild horses in Wyoming's checkerboard lands about to disappear forever? The Bureau of Land Management plans to remove thousands of wild horses from Adobe Town, Salt Wells Creek, and Great Divide Basin starting July 2025, effectively zeroing out entire herds despite ongoing legal challenges. In this episode, I break down the two public comme…

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#22 - The Legacy of Public Lands w/ Char Miller 1:05:25

2M ago1:05:25

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In this episode, I interview Char Miller, a historian and professor with a focus on public lands, agencies, and land management. Char discusses the complexities of Gifford Pinchot's philosophy, contrasting it with that of John Muir, particularly around the conservation versus preservation debate. He offers insights into the historical development o…

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#21 - America’s Public Lands Under Attack w/ Wes Siler 1:14:43

2M ago1:14:43

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In this episode, I interview Wes Siler. Wes delves into the pressing issues surrounding America's public lands, discussing how privatization efforts threaten public access and ownership. Key examples include the Yellowstone Club, the Crazy Mountains land heist, corner crossing, state efforts to wrest control over public lands, and federal public la…

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#20 - Fighting for Endemic Species in the Great Basin with Patrick Donnelly 52:24

2M ago52:24

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In this episode, I interview Patrick Donnelly with the Center for Biological Diversity along the banks of the Amargosa River in California near Death Valley National Park. Patrick discusses the historical and ongoing impact of human activity, such as mining, and the modern-day pressures of the lithium boom in Nevada. He discusses how the Center is …

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#19 - Public Domain: A Conversation with Investigative Journalist Jimmy Tobias 42:18

2M ago42:18

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In this episode, I speak with Jimmy Tobias, a seasoned investigative journalist. Jimmy delves into his journey from working summertimes in wilderness in Montana to his current focus on public lands journalism. He discusses his deep passion for public lands issues, the influence of the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) in uncovering unethical behavi…

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50. A Win for Wild Horses: Shutting Down the Adoption Incentive Program 33:05

2M ago33:05

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How would you feel if your tax dollars were being used to send wild horses to slaughter? In a landmark legal victory, wild horse advocates recently shut down a government program that was doing exactly that. The Bureau of Land Management's Adoption Incentive Program (AIP) was paying people $1,000 per horse to adopt untamed wild horses, with devasta…

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#18 - America's Red Rock Wilderness Act 44:05

2M ago44:05

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In this episode, I interview Terri Martin with the Southern Utah Wilderness Alliance (SUWA). The podcast highlights the reintroduction of the America’s Red Rock Wilderness Act, which seeks to protect over 8 million acres of public lands in Southern Utah from exploitation. The discussion includes the significance of the act within the broader '30 by…

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#17 - Biden’s Public Lands Scorecard and Legacy 1:09:55

3M ago1:09:55

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In this episode, I welcome back Andy Kerr to discuss Biden’s public lands record and legacy. We also discuss the contrasting environmental policies and actions early in the Trump 2.0 years. Andy delves into Biden's legacy on public lands, examining specific actions like the reinstatement of Bears Ears and Grand Staircase Escalante national monument…

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49. Visiting Wild Horses in Winter II 18:54

3M ago18:54

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Have you ever wondered what it's like to visit wild horses in the winter? In this episode, I share my recent experience traveling in Wyoming to see these majestic creatures during the coldest time of year. From navigating snowy roads to spotting familiar horses, it's an adventure unlike any other. You'll hear about the resilience of these horses as…

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#16 - The F*ck Our Forests Act & D.C. Dysfunction 1:14:11

3M ago1:14:11

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In this episode, I interview Jennifer Mamola with the John Muir Project. Jenn discusses insights and frustrations with current wildfire policy in Washington, D.C. She stresses the importance of shifting focus from backcountry forest management to home hardening and defensible spaces around communities. Criticizing ineffective policies like the Fix …

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#15 - How to Starve an Entire Ecosystem 1:00:12

3M ago1:00:12

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In this episode, I interview Roger Long an ecologist and professor. We discuss his career trajectory that led him from computer programming to teaching and focusing specifically on the shrub steppe ecosystem. After switching careers and completing his master's and dissertation, Roger continued studying nitrogen cycling and the impact of cattle graz…

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48. Resistance is Everything 6:35

4M ago6:35

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Are you concerned about the future of America's wild horses? Despite the challenges ahead, I believe we must hold onto hope and keep fighting for their protection. In this episode, I share my thoughts on the current state of wild horses and what we can do to make a difference. I encourage you to express your love, determination, and commitment to s…

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#14 - Protecting New England’s Remaining Wildlands 1:08:07

4M ago1:08:07

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In this episode, I interview Zack Porter who discusses the state of public lands and roadless areas in Vermont and across New England. He highlights the ongoing threats from logging and road construction, particularly in the Green Mountain and White Mountain National Forests. Zack emphasizes the ecological importance of these lands for clean water,…

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#13 - Wild Fish and Old Growth 49:56

4M ago49:56

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In this episode, I interview Conrad Gowell with the Wild Fish Conservancy. Based in Washington, his organization uses science and law to protect wild fish and ecosystems. Conrad dives into the issues around fishery policies lagging behind scientific knowledge, particularly with endangered species like Chinook salmon. He highlights the challenges wi…

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#12 - Evaluating the Effectiveness and Ecological Impact of Forest Fuels Treatments 1:42:37

5M ago1:42:37

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In this episode, I interview George Wuerthner, an independent advocate, ecologist, and author to explore what it means for fuels treatments to be effective in wildfire management. George challenges the prevailing assumption that preventing high-severity fires and minimizing tree deaths is inherently beneficial. He argues that high-severity fires cr…

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47. Revisiting: Discovering Wild Horses 23:56

5M ago23:56

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As we reflect on the year, I’m excited to revisit one of my favorite episodes with you. Whether you’re relaxing with loved ones or carving out a little time for yourself, this episode offers something truly special. In today’s episode, we explore the story of wild horses—a tale of beauty, struggle, and perseverance. Through my photographs, book, an…

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46. Rock Spring Grazing Association v. Wild Horses: Interview with Debbie Coffey 29:02

6M ago29:02

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Curious about the Rock Springs Grazing Association and their influence over wild horses in Wyoming? This episode is for you. Join me and my friend, Debbie Coffey, as we dive into the ongoing lawsuit that wild horse and burro activists, including us, have filed against the Rock Springs Grazing Association and the BLM. You'll learn how to support org…

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#11 - The Truth Behind Forest Management: Dr. Chad Hanson on The Deception of Thinning and Fire Prevention 1:26:33

6M ago1:26:33

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In this episode, I interview Dr. Chad Hanson of the John Muir Project. We discuss forest protection, fire ecology, and the deceptive practices of federal land management agencies such as the U.S. Forest Service. Chad critically examines the Forest Service's narrative around logging disguised as fuel reduction and forest health projects, revealing t…

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#10 - Beavers & Water Conservation: A Call for Leadership and Action on Public Lands 1:34:18

6M ago1:34:18

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In this episode, I interview Dr. Suzanne Fouty and Kami Ellingson, both past Forest Service hydrologists, to talk about beavers. Suzanne and Kami share their insights and experiences about the significance of beavers in ecosystem restoration and water management. Our conversation covers the ecological benefits of beavers, such as water storage, flo…

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45. Visiting Wild Horses in Winter 9:12

6M ago9:12

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If you’ve ever dreamed of venturing into the snowy wilderness to find wild horses, this episode is for you. Experience the unique blend of thrill and tranquility that comes with braving the cold to encounter these majestic creatures—a journey unlike any other. Join me as I explore how winter transforms the world of wild horses. From their calm resi…

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44. Wolves and Wild Horses: Interview with Ashley Avis 28:59

7M ago28:59

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Have you ever wondered what wolves and wild horses have in common? Wild Beauty: Mustang Spirit of the West, a stunning film by Ashley Avis, is a breathtaking exploration of wild horses. Now, Ashley is turning her lens to wolves, revealing how their struggles echo those of wild horses. Ashley Avis, a screenwriter, producer, and director of four feat…

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#9 - Behind the Scenes with Blue Mountains Biodiversity Project 1:25:44

7M ago1:25:44

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In this episode I interview Karen Coulter co-founder of the Blue Mountains Biodiversity Project, reflecting on their work since 1991 in Oregon. We discus the escalation of timber sales from thousands to tens of thousands of acres and how logging practices have intensified over the years, often disguised under terms like 'vegetation management' or '…

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43. Looking Glass the Wild Leopard Appaloosa Stallion 13:06

7M ago13:06

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If you've ever wondered what it’s like to connect with one of the most remarkable stallions I've ever encountered, this episode will bring you closer than ever. Journey into the heart of the Red Desert, where wild horses like Looking Glass, a vibrant leopard Appaloosa stallion, live out stories of resilience, loyalty, and freedom. Tune in to see wh…

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#8 - Championing Utah's Wilderness and Wildlife 1:19:36

7M ago1:19:36

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In this episode, I interview Kirk Robinson with the Western Wildlife Conservancy. Kirk shares his deep connection with Utah's environment, public lands, and history. We discuss the Great Salt Lake's environmental issues due to drought and human activities, highlighting the impacts of agriculture, mining, and urban growth. Kirk reflects on his famil…

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42. Revisiting A Vision for Wild Horses 9:37

8M ago9:37

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Wild horses have long been symbols of freedom and the untamed spirit of the American West. But in recent years, these majestic creatures have faced significant challenges. This year, in particular, has been horrible for wild horses in America. In this episode, I revisit key ideas to provide hope and direction for those who are passionate about prot…

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41. Update on Checkerboard Litigation: Interview with Suzanne Roy and Joanna Grossman 30:27

8M ago30:27

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The Checkerboard Litigation raises concerns about the BLM’s adherence to the Wild Free-Roaming Horses and Burros Act. The BLM is prioritizing livestock interests over the protection of wild horses due to pressure from grazing associations. The roundup and subsequent captivity of these horses frequently result in inadequate living conditions, overcr…

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#7 - Safeguarding the Wilderness Act 57:22

8M ago57:22

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In this episode, I interview Katie Bilodeau and Kevin Proescholdt from Wilderness Watch. We discuss their organization's mission to preserve the integrity of the wilderness Act, legal enforcement, and challenges to wilderness across the political spectrums. Our conversation delves into the historical context and continuing relevance of wilderness p…

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40. Consequences of the Path Forward for Wild Horses - Interview with Debbie Coffey 28:31

9M ago28:31

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The BLM's controversial new plan, “The Path Forward”, is a fast track to extinction for our beloved wild horses, and we need to talk about. Joining me for this important conversation is Debbie Coffey, writer, speaker, and long-time advocate known for her extensive work with many organizations to help the wild horses and burros. Debbie helps me brea…

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#6 - Logging, Politics, and Conservation: A Deep Dive with Andy Kerr 1:08:05

9M ago1:08:05

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In this episode, I interview Andy Kerr, a main stay of conservation politics and public lands advocacy. Andy discusses his journey into forest conservation, reflecting on key moments in his career, such as the Save French Pete demonstration in 1970, and significant legislative milestones like the Endangered American Wilderness Act of 1978. Andy als…

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39. The Consequences of a Roundup: The White Mountain Herd 14:43

9M ago14:43

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The Bureau of Land Management (BLM) recently reused an outdated assessment and failed to conduct a new count despite severe winter conditions that reduced horse numbers. The roundup of the White Mountain Herd, which involved the use of helicopters, resulted in significant stress for the horses. In this episode, I explain why I call the BLM's White …

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#5 - Oregon Coast Conservation 1:09:46

9M ago1:09:46

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In this episode, I interview Paul Englemeyer with the Bird Alliance of Oregon (formally the Audubon Society). Paul and I have an in-depth discussion on the conservation efforts and environmental challenges faced on Oregon's Central Coast. We cover topics such as the Clean Water Act, salmon recovery, the ecological importance of beavers, the impact …

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38. Two Unforgettable Wild Stallions 15:39

10M ago15:39

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The stories of the Pryor Mountain and McCullough Peaks herds are more than just tales of survival; they are narratives of resilience, adaptation, and the deep interconnections between wildlife and their environments. This week, I delve into the lives of two remarkable stallions from these herds, Shaman and Tecumseh, drawing on firsthand experiences…

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#4 - Balancing Grazing and Conservation—Is it Possible? 1:29:26

10M ago1:29:26

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In this episode I interview Laura Welp, Ecosystems Specialist with the Western Watersheds Project. We discuss the significance of our public lands, and the democratic principles that should underpin their management. Our discussion addresses the conflicts between livestock grazing and ecological health, including challenges from invasive species (l…

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37. Observing a Roundup 13:58

10M ago13:58

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If you’re interested in learning about what a wild horse roundup entails, listen in today. For the past three weeks, the Bureau of Land Management has been rounding up and removing wild horses from the North Lander Complex in Wyoming. This roundup started on July 1st and will likely wrap up in the next couple of days as they are close to their goal…

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#3 - The Gallatin Forest Partnership Exposed 1:12:37

11M ago1:12:37

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In this detailed conversation, I interview Dr. Joseph Scalia III to discuss our journey with the Gallatin Yellowstone Wilderness Alliance (GYWA) based in Bozeman, Montana and the broader challenges facing wilderness preservation. We reflect on our past and present experiences, including efforts to advocate for wilderness designations on public land…

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36. Protecting the Salt River Wild Horses: Interview with Simone Netherlands 38:29

11M ago38:29

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If you're interested in learning about the complexities of wild horse conservation, the ongoing battles against outdated practices, and the critical role of public support, listen in this week. I sat down with Simone Netherlands, the dedicated founder and president of the Salt River Wild Horse Management Group. Simone opens up about the challenges …

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#2 - Canopy of Titans 1:15:53

11M ago1:15:53

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In this episode of 'Our Public Lands', I interview journalist and environmental investigator Paul Koberstein. Our conversation delves into the importance of protecting old growth forests, and their immense ecological and value. Paul shares his extensive experience in environmental journalism, highlighting landmark investigations by his outfit Casca…

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35. Revisiting AWHC Wyoming Lawsuit: Interview with Suzanne Roy 43:13

11M ago43:13

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Today’s episode serves as an update for the continuing litigation against the BLM. The BLM has plans to zero out herds in one area, reduce herd size in another area, and do a land grab spurred by the Rock Springs Grazing Association. To discuss this, I'm joined by the executive director of American Wild Horse Campaign, Suzanne Roy. Listen in this w…

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#1 - Poisoning the Public Lands 1:09:19

12M ago1:09:19

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In the inaugural episode of 'Our Public Lands,' host Adam Bronstein speaks with Sharon Selvaggio from the Xerces Society about the federal USDA APHIS grasshopper and Mormon cricket spraying program. They explore the extensive use of pesticides on public and private lands to control these native species and its widespread ecological impacts. Sharon …

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34. Wild Curly Horses 11:29

12M ago11:29

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Have you ever wondered what a Curly horse looks like? Where wild Curly horses live and roam? What makes Curly horses so special? If so, this episode is for you. I introduce you to a wild black stallion named Bubba who was my first introduction to Curly horses and tell you about these amazing animals. As you listen to this episode, I hope you will t…

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33. The Online Corral 10:23

1y ago10:23

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The BLM’s online auction ended two weeks ago. My personal experience tells me that for both wild horses and their future human partners to benefit, you need to witness the horses in person. How they interact with other horses. How they move. What is their personality? This is very important. An online event simply cannot offer this. We need to make…