Masterminding Eden: Building the Regenerative Future Welcome to Masterminding Eden, the podcast where ancient wisdom meets revolutionary innovation to design a thriving, regenerative civilization. Hosted by Camara Cassin, Env. Sci. Tech, permaculture designer, systems thinker, and founder of the Masterminding Eden initiative, this series brings you into deep, inspiring conversations with visionary leaders, inventors, technologists, architects, healers, and futurists who are pioneering the sy ...
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A curiosity driven podcast about wisdom, learning and the personal and systemic implications of the transition we are in. Hosted by Amit Paul and Nils von Heijne. For extended shownotes visit: https://worldofwisdom.substack.com/
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266. Erik Fernholm - Meta-crisis, IDGs, burning out to rekindle
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1:15:18This is a beautiful conversation with Erik Fernholm (linkedIn) co-founder of 29k as well as the IDGs. We speak of emotions, happiness, what it takes to compost, why solutions cannot be perfect. We speak of listening and self-compassion. Why turning towards that which we reject can sometimes be the thing we need to do, even though it's hard. What it…
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265. Sam Jockel - Reparenting, being with pain and how to get to warmth
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1:05:27Sam Jockel (LinkedIn) came on the show. The founder of ParentTV and the producer of SEEN the film. Our conversation touched in on what parenting may be, both for yourself and for your kids. How does one become a parent? We speak of trauma as something that didn't happen rather than what happened and we speak of what it takes to recover warmth. How …
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264. Neil Smyth - Stewardownership, problems (not organisations) at the center and collective action
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1:04:01Neil Smyth (LinkedIn) founder of Alkemio and I spoke about collective action problems, agency and ownership. Neil is a veteran in the steward ownership space and is also active building the platform Alkemio towards collective action . We speak of the simple but profound transformations that hold the possibility to upend the world we live in. Neil s…
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263. Adam Widawski - Technology, the state of civilisation and the silent war for our attention
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1:00:33Adam Widawski (LinkedIn) is an educator and philosopher. Currently working for the think-tank Mindshield. We speak of the immense potential of our times. Why learning is an orientation to life that's served us well. We speak of technology and it's incredible pull as well as the importance of getting inspired by perspectives from the margins. We spe…
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262. Ola Jönsson - Identities, transformative investments and great decisions
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1:07:42Ola Jönsson (LinkedIn) founder of Coest among other things came by the podcast. We spoke of profit and company growth as a part of but not the goal of companies. We spoke of identities and how they are important and how they interact. What it takes to start from scarcity - why are people that haven't prove extractive capacity as trustworthy in our …
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Masterminding EDEN #001 Steve Streetman - Regenerative Community Developer
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1:57:33This conversation explores the intersection of education, technology, and community building, focusing on sustainable practices, cryptocurrency in real estate, and the importance of cultural shifts in agriculture. The speakers discuss their journeys, the challenges of climate change, and the vision for creating self-sustaining communities that inte…
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261. Michael Haupt - Collapse, systems change and 9 mental models for navigating our times
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1:08:53Michael Haupt (LinkedIn) recovering corporate technician, regenerative practitioner and father and I had a wonderful conversation. We spoke about why systems change requires a fundamentally different approach than the one most of us currently take. We also touched on the framework he is developing of 9 mental models for navigating the times we ar…
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260. WoW Roundtable (part 2): Evaluation, scaling and amplifying life force in regenerative gatherings
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53:49Audrey Fillion (EP224), Ria Baeck (EP155), Adrian Wagner gathered for the second part of the first ever World of Wisdom roundtable. We spoke of evaluation, scaling, micro-moments of empathy and scaling. Beyond scaling up we also need to scale deep and wide. And how we can do that through technology. This deep conversation also touches upon…
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259. WoW Roundtable: Gatherings. Measurement, doing and outcomes of regenerative gatherings (Pt 1)
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1:08:34Audrey Fillion (EP224), Ria Baeck (EP155), Adrian Wagner gathered for the first ever World of Wisdom roundtable. This time we spoke about regenerative gatherings. This conversation is a rich and deep exploration with people that probably have a century of experience of gatherings between them. We speak of attention, action, what can be done and wha…
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258. Ruben Daniels - sovereignty, interbeing and systems transformation
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1:04:26Ruben Daniels (Founder of Allelo) and I had a wonderful conversation about systems transformation, digital sovereignty and what it takes to begin living into a stable state of interbeing. Ruben is a successful IT entrepreneur that has since shifted his focus towards sovereignty- food, economic and digital. We speak especially about the economic and…
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257. Camara Cassin - Masterminding Eden an approach to connecting the silos
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1:05:11Camara Cassin (LinkedIn) mother of 4, Environmental Science Technologist and transformation powerhouse as well as source and Founder of Masterminding Eden. We speak of the technologies that are already there, the seeds of what may come next. The importance of social as well as other technologies to break the silos. Why it's important to build a con…
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256. Kasper Bjorkskov - shifting the building industry, transformation through action and biodiversity
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1:03:40Kasper Bjorkskov (LinkedIn) activist, researcher, consultant, father, human has worked on shifting systems tangibly in Denmark. We speak of what it takes, how even activist tactics can create resilient change and why the edges are important in shifting the normal. We speak of architects and caring for the living, we speak of why biodiversity is a b…
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255. Turiya Hanover - finding out what is between you and love
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59:29Turiya Hanover (LinkedIn) one of the founders of Path of Love. We speak of the transformation that is possible when we become honest with ourselves and its potential for the world we live in. What does it take to find out what's between yourself and love? What if your deepest pain explored will bring you to your deepest humbleness? What if this not…
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254. Hanna Moisander - the board as a bridge to owners and personal responsibility
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59:11Hanna Moisander (LinkedIn), co-founder of Deb is on a mission to democratise boards and radically shift their demographic. As we move through some of the basics of board work there are some radical calls to action that emerge. The notion that the board is one of the few points in the corporate world where there is direct personal responsibility…
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253. Rory Tews - Macro shifts and micro transformations, agency and empowerment
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1:05:32Rory Tews (LinkedIn) visited the podcast and we spoke of his work in societal transformation. Rory's been working in many domains of transformation and transition. From financial markets to building markets and institutions. This is a fundamental rethink and reframe of the challenges and shifts we stand before Rory is a first principle thinker th…
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252. Donnie Maclurcan - post-growth, post-capitalism economies and being a systems-feeler
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1:16:00Donnie Maclurcan (LinkedIn) the Director of Strategy at the Post Growth Institute visited the podcast this week. We have an in-depth conversation about what the core of the matter with capitalism in. We speak bout money, post-growth economics, the needed shift towards circularity. Why he can definitively say that we already know after having run mo…
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251. Soloepisode - Integration, collapse, sense fullness, relationally and it's already happening
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49:20In this episode Amit takes a moment to reflection what is happening. A short list of deep topics. He speaks of integration - being an integrated human being that through his or her complexity was born to live into this humanity. He speaks of the collapse, how it is already here but also that which is beyond. That is already here. There is an innova…
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250. Navid Zargham - non-duality, stopping and checking, what it means to act beyond separation
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1:04:47Navid Zargham of Simran Meditation (instagram) came on and we took on one of the most central topics of this shift we're in: separation. Navid is a practitioner and guide for people to find what is sometimes referred to as 'non-duality', or as he says himself "a way of looking behind the scenes, behind the culture and behind the programming" . This…
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249. Claudine Perlet - transformation of our economic system, eating money and regenerative economics
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1:05:39Dr. Claudine Perlet (LinkedIn, webpage) stepped out from her top tier corporate job for a large insurance company in 2017 and began exploring alternatives. She landed on Regenerative Economics as her frame for the work she is doing now. This conversation speaks of the regenerative business transformation and we address, head on, some of the things …
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248. Renee Lertzman - The importance of questions, convening and agency
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1:08:45Renee Lertzman (LinkedIn, webpage) climate psychologist that's worked for more than 3 decades with large corporations and instituations (google included) dropped in for a deep conversations on the conditions conducive to change. We spoke of the importance of questions, how agency is one of the most important aspects of our humanity and how robbing …
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247. John Mack - landing on soul, what technology is actually doing to and for us
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1:04:00John Mack (LinkedIn) author, speaker, photographer and founder of the non-profit Life Calling, focused on preserving our humanity in a digital age. We get into the weeds of what technology is doing to us at the moment, and why exactly it is so pervasive. We also speak of what it has the potential to do for us. We speak of the meta-crisis and how it…
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246. Nessie Reid - food sovereignty, food security and the liberation in grief work
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1:08:51Nessie Reid is the director of the Global Diversity Foundation, (linktr.ee) the creator of the Miking Parlour lives with her husband on an organic farm in Wales. We deep dive into food and why food sovereignty and food security are such fundamental topics. Why it is that not more of us care about food. We speak of convenience and price as two impor…
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245. Anna Gyllenklev - objects, infrastructure and how our relationships create our world.
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1:00:14Anna Gyllenklev (LinkedIn) founder of Untra Studio visited the podcast. We spoke about what our environments do to us, we spoke about health and the relational nature of our world. What are the dependencies that structure our thinking? What do we have to do to think outside our brain? What are you cultivating? What do we nurture? What does it do to…
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244. Servane Mouazan - Care, collective intelligence, organisations as living entities
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57:18Servane Mouazan (LinkedIn, webpage) visited the podcast and we spoke of things like collective intelligence, what happens when we invite the organisation as the living entity and inquire into it into the room, we spoke of trust and how capital is not just financial capital but rather many things. We spoke of change, and resistance to change, th…
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243. Thekla Teunis - Regenerative agriculture, bottom up systems transformation and building as you go
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1:11:43Thekla Teunis (LinkedIn) is the founder of Grounded aiming to bring agriculture back into balance. Thekla shares her journey from Shell and McKinsey to her current work of transforming agriculture bottom up from the core. We speak of being with the consequences of what one is doing, what it takes to see and what it takes to take risk. The impor…
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242. Vicki Saunders - gifting, new ways of being and the radically generous response
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1:01:18Vicki Saunders (LI) founder of Coralus and I spoke of the new ways of building business, systems transformation, the power of generosity and kindness. What happens when you get 7000 women together and let the community direct investments? What happens when you realise just how expensive control is and how cheap trust is? What are the metaphors that…
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241. Sam Hinds - A deepdive into collective practice, collective action and leading from the emerging future
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1:10:17Sam Hinds (website, substack) therapist, PhD and lecturer at California Center for Integral Studies, has been on before EP173. We dive into the depths of what some call collective precensing. We speak of faith and trust. We speak of the impatience we feel, the importance of slowing down, of staying with it. We speak of responsibility, relevance, ci…
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240. Giles Hutchins - The immanent and transcendent, leadership as facilitating unfolding and the harmonics of life
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58:19Giles Hutchins (webpage) has been on the podcast before (EP107). Recently released his 6th book Nature Works which we center this conversation around. We deepdive into the meaning of the quote: "being intimate with the immanent and transparent with the transcendent". Giles also positions us nicely in where our society is currently, we speak o…
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239. Samantha Sweetwater - wisdom, sensemaking beyond thinking and the possibility that we were the ones who came home
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1:01:54Samantha Sweetwater is a coach, author, holistic practitioner (webpage, LinkedIn, Instagram). We spoke of what is to have lived with the awareness of existential risk for 50 years. Which places it may take you. We speak of what it means to live in these times we live in and the possibilities it offers us. We speak of embodiment, enlifenment, aesthe…
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238. Vanessa Andreotti - Hospicing modernity, conversations that world, being the sh*t, accountability and compassion
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1:15:37Vanessa Andreotti author of Hospicing Modernity, dean of the faculty of education at University of Victoria and member of the DCF collective came and spoke about what it takes to begin making space for something that isn't modernity. We speak of the importance of humor and humility, staying open to both the good and the sh*t, coming into contact wi…
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Intermezzo: To move in spaces where worlds shift
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23:07This episode is an intermezzo. It is an audio version of Amit Pauls and Eric Lichtmans article in the Unpsychology Magazine 10: Edges: To move in spaces where worlds shift. Enjoy!
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237. Ida Faldbakken - Gatherings, being of service and co-creation
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1:06:03Ida Faldbakken (LinkedIn), CEO of KatapultX and co-founder of Katapult Future Fest, and I had a deep inquiry into what it is to gather, what it's for and what it means to not waste peoples time. We also spoke about what it takes to break our habits, like what if the people on stage are there to propagate the conversation off stage, what if thes…
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236. Manish Jain - Alternatives to education and reclaiming learning and knowledge
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55:22Manish Jain, founder of Swaraj University and Ecoversities Alliance is this weeks guest. We spoke of alternatives to education, why education as we think of it today may be one of the root causes of the metacrisis rather than a solution for it and we spoke of reclaiming learning and knowledge. The treachery of language like 'first generation le…
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235. Grace Rachmany - Democracy, the monetary system, commons and value
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1:10:14Grace Rachmany of the Voices of humanty, Priceless DAO, DAO leadership and many more projects is this weeks guest. We spoke of democracy and the state of it, we spoke of decision making, what happens to a society that has the monetary system as it's primary social structure. We speak of value, commons, technology and responsibility. This conversati…
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234. Tanuja Prasad - Investments as a creative act, living systems and the potentiality of metaphor
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1:09:53Tanuja Prasad (LinkedIn) and I had a conversation about her work in regenerative investments. We talked about the spirit of investments, the driving force behind investment up until this point, how to transcend the extractive paradigm and shift away from the control and force as the governing principles towards something more generative. Tanuja and…
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233. Eva Karlsson - Sustainable business, common sense and measurement
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1:08:10Eva Karlsson (LinkedIn), CEO of Houdini Sportswear visited the podcast. We got to talk about solutions that are not solutions, the planetary boundaries in business, measurement, common sense, why joy at work is a radical thing to focus on. We also spoke of the benefit of having a strict set of design boundaries to work with, spoler: it spurs creati…
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232. Jeremy Johnson - Emergence from the middle, the importance of hesitation and going terrestial
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1:07:42Jeremy D Johnson visited the podcast a second time after 2 years (website). This was a deep and curious conversation about change all the way down. We spoke of emergence happening in the middle, the idea of slowing down, the importance of hesitation, temporics of attention, the awakening of the relational (integrated) worldview in younger generatio…
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231. Jenny Grettve - the mothering economy, feminine futures, the importance of small things and love
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1:07:54Jenny Grettve founder of the Economic Institue For Feminine Futures, author of the upcoming book Mothering economy came by the podcast. We spoke of why, with all our innovative capacity, it is so difficult to create a caring and kind economy? This is a conversation on many levels that zooms in and out of the economic, educational and systemic work …
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230. Eric "Zippy" Harris-Braun - Holochain, LLMs as grammar deducers and a new DNA for social organism
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1:19:11Eric "Zippy" Harris-Braun, founder of Holochain, had a conversation about Holochain, agent centric vs data centric blockchains, the power of Holochain as one of the components of the DNA for social organisms. We speak about money and why it is not a very wholesome storage of value. We speak of gramatic capacity and LLMs as grammar deducers, the imp…
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229. Jeremy Akers - Liberating structures, coherence, change and game design
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1:06:37Jeremy Akers from Gospel of change (Substack, X, LinkedIn) came by the podcast. We spoke of liberating structures, how to acheive coherence in groups and why that is crucial for the times we live in, game design and how that may take us forward. This is a conversation that orients towards the practical with some concrete tools and possibilities to …
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228. Soloepisode: Reflections on separation, control and survival, relaxing, repurposing and remembering
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41:53Another solo episode with some pressing reflections that wanted to come out. I reflect on the myths of separation, control and survival. Also invite you to consider the Relax, Repurpose and Remember triad that Innrwrks is working on. Most of all I invite you to be with the very challenging (and rewarding perspective): If everything in this world is…
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227. Karl-Erik Edris - the smoke that connects Reality with words, civilisations, the axial age and how we got here
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1:14:52Karl-Erik Edris came by for a second conversation (here's the first from nov 2023). This time we spoke of the rise of fall of civilizations, where we currently seem to be in this current change, the axial age, the fall of the roman empire, Jesus, modernity and what might be coming next. What is it that our current ways of treating eachother and the…
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226. Nora Wilhelm - Systems change work vs youth activism, burnout in systemic work and what it means to live.
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1:14:23Nora Willhelm (web, linkedin) founder of the well, co-founder of Collaboratio Helvetica, alumn of the European youth parliament and much more came by the podcast. This is a specific and hands on conversation about what it takes to be one of those longing to bridge the existing system towards what is to come. The costs of being a bridge, why systemi…
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225. Michel Bauwens - What's next? Commons, the pulsation of the commons, technology and cosmolocalism
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1:21:31Michel Bauwens (Substack and X) is a thought leader and researcher in the space of commons. Also the founder of the P2P foundation. We speak of the state of the commons, dive into the pulsation of the commons, the rise and fall of civilizations, and much more. Michel makes a beautiful argument for why we are currently moving towards a time when …
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224. Audrey Fillon & Victor Vorski: Gathering of the tribes, the ancient technology of gathering and how to get to action
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1:11:58Audrey Fillon and Victor Vorski came on the podcast and we spoke of Gathering. They are co-creating the Gathering of the Tribes (links: Gathering of Tribes' website, LinkedIn, YouTube channel, Instagram, Newsletter) It was a beautiful conversation touching on the technology of gathering, the need for breaking silos, the Project, what these times ar…
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223. Amanda Argot - Integration, consequences of unintegrated cultures and peak experiences
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1:04:27Amanda Argo (webpage, LinkedIn, instagram) is specialized in integration of peak experiences and altered states with a background in Neuroscience. We speak of integration as an ongoing process, how cultural context is critical in understanding how we think about integration. We speak of how to retain the potency of a peak experience and how to thin…
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222. Christina Bengtsson - focus, uncluttering attention and expanding time
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1:04:53Christina Bengtsson (LinkedIn, Tedtalk) founder of Reclaim Focus has been a world champion of precision shooting, military officer, author. We speak of what focus is, if it's effortful to be focused? We speak about time as well as the fundamentals: what is focus? We speak about how we create our present as well as our future depending on how we are…
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221. Louise Rönnerdahl - dehumanisation in companies, leadership and culture at large
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1:03:02Louise Rönnerdahl (LinkedIn) executive coach and coach at Leader intelligence came on the podcast and spoke of the current trend towards dehumanisation. We spoke of the IQ the EQ and the SQ (spiritual intelligence) in the model Leader intelligence in Sweden is working with. As well as the intelligence of the body. The fact that a manager is both a …
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220. Christian Bason - Design, futures, innovation and why getting to a new how is crucial
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59:27Christian Bason (LinkedIn) the former co-CEO of Danish Design Center and Director of MindLab, currently co-founder of the Transition Collective (intro). We had a deep conversation about what it takes to transition and transform our current society. We spoke of how to take seriously the how and begin to move away from problem solving that creates mo…
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219. Josephine Sundqvist - breaking silos, development, faith, leadership and the importance of hope
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1:05:08Josephine Sundqvist the Secretary-General – CEO of LM International (Läkarmissionen) came on the podcast. We explored development and the importance of partnership. Why focusing on empowerment is more efficient than maximizing short term returns. Why it might be the right ove for companies as well to stop thinking of profits as the end and instead …
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