The NOT REAL ART podcast celebrates creative culture and the artists who make it. NOT REAL ART is fresh, fun and inspiring. It contains material not suitable for pretentious art snobs. Guests include the world-class artists, designers and creatives who drive the $2T creative economy. NOT REAL ART is hosted by L.A. based art world insiders Man One and Sourdough who bring their devil-may-care attitude to discussing their mutual love — and hate — for the contemporary art world, creative culture ...
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Animating the Human Spirit: Insights From Emmy Winner Bob Boyle on Community and Creativity
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56:05What happens when the worlds of animation and fine art collide? This week on the NOT REAL ART podcast, host Scott "Sourdough" Power sits down with the talented Bob Boyle, an Emmy Award-winning animation creator whose work spans Disney to Netflix. In today’s episode, Bob dives into the fascinating connections and contrasts between animation and visu…
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Mark Brickey: From Punk Rocker to Podcaster to Disneyland Expert
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1:10:38In our fast-paced world, staying ahead creatively means rolling with the punches. This week on the podcast, host Scott Sourdough Power, founder of NOT REAL ART, talks with Mark Brickey, host of the acclaimed arts podcast Adventures in Design. Mark, who started as a musician, has made a name for himself as a content creator with a successful podcast…
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Fostering a Creative Economy: The Mission Behind NOT REAL ART and Fiscal Sponsor Arterial
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9:58In this month’s auditorial episode, we dive into some exciting discussions around fiscal sponsorship and how it can really benefit artists. But we don’t just stop there; we also explore the deeper connection between NOT REAL ART and its parent nonprofit, Arterial, when it comes to the role of art in our culture. Host and Arterial founder Scott shar…
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Mono Arts Council Executive Director Kristin Reese Champions Arts Education for Children
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1:01:40This week on the podcast, we’re joined by Kristin Reese, the executive director of the Mono Arts Council. Kristin shares her journey and dedication to promoting creativity in the Eastern Sierra region of California. In our conversation, she outlines the Mono Arts Council’s evolution, emphasizing its shift toward arts education. Kristin believes tha…
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Essential Strategies for Aspiring Writers: A Conversation With Entertainment Attorney Paul Miloknay
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54:40Ever wondered what it takes to break into Hollywood as a writer? In today’s episode, NOT REAL ART host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Paul Miloknay, a former attorney turned author, to chat about his new book, Welcome to Hollywood: A Survival Guide for Aspiring Writers. In their discussion, Paul shares his journey from the courtroom to craf…
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Life After Layoff: Voiceover Artist Carmen Acosta Finds Purpose in a New Creative Chapter
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58:06Is there life after layoff? Today, former creative director Carmen Acosta, aka Jane Dope, joins us to talk about resilience, the lessons she learned during her recent career transition, and how she found renewed passion in creative pursuits after leaving her corporate job. As the former creative director at Sofi Stadium, Carmen played a key role in…
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Emmy Winner Shannon Malone-deBenedictis on Transforming the Media Landscape and Empowering Creatives
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1:05:25What happens when a two-time Emmy Award-winning television executive decides to flip the script on her career? In this episode of the NOT REAL ART podcast, host Scott "Sourdough" Power uncovers the remarkable story of Shannon Malone-deBenedictis—a creative entrepreneur transforming the media landscape. From sharing the screen with Hollywood legends…
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From Creation to Preservation: The Artist's Guide to Archiving
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20:28Every brushstroke, every note, every pixel—what if your artwork could live forever? In this episode, you’ll discover why archiving your work isn’t just about saving files—it’s about preserving your legacy. Join host Scott "Sourdough" Power as he highlights the critical role of preserving artistic legacies for future generations, especially as creat…
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Casey Fletcher: Our 2024 NOT REAL ART Grant Recipient
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1:04:33This week, the NOT REAL ART podcast features Casey Fletcher, a grant recipient whose exploration of identity, faith, and artistic expression is both personal and provocative. As a biracial artist raised in a family committed to the Salvation Army, Fletcher's work reflects his own experiences while challenging societal norms and sparking meaningful …
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Art in Peril: Consequences of Climate Change on the Creative Sector
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27:07In this episode, you’ll learn about an incredibly relevant topic: the connection between art, creativity, and climate change. Today, host Scott “Sourdough” Power highlights the staggering impact of recent climate disasters on creative communities in Los Angeles and Asheville, North Carolina. When Hurricane Helene swept through Western North Carolin…
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Unveiling First Fridays: A Deep Dive Into NOT REAL ART’s 2025 Exhibition Calendar
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30:35This episode is your guidebook to our 2025 First Friday Exhibition series. Today, NOT REAL ART Editor-in-Chief Morgan Laurens joins the podcast to share the first half of this year’s exhibition schedule, beginning with January's exploration of figurative art, Out of Body: New Narratives in Figurative Art. In February, Pantone 2025: Mocha Mousse sho…
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Spreading Eco-Awareness: Danielle O'Malley Explores the Intersection of Art, Environment, and Community
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1:38:32Creativity can be a powerful tool for spreading eco-awareness. As the climate crisis worsens, today’s guest, sustainable sculptor and NOT REAL ART grant winner Danielle O’Malley, joins us to discuss the intersection of art and environmental awareness and how communities can work together to stem the rising tide. Growing up in rural Montana, Daniell…
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Holiday Cheer: Embracing the Timeless Gift of Friendship and Creative Connections
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2:06:58It’s often said that no friendship is an accident. In this special holiday episode, our final one for 2024, hosts Scott “Sourdough” Power and Man One reflect on the enduring bond they've cultivated over the years. Their ability to weather life's many ups and downs is a testament to their strong friendship, which has provided unwavering support, lau…
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‘Christmas in L.A’: Behind the Music Video
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1:22:18While Christmas in Los Angeles brings sunshine instead of snowflakes, Angelinos can still enjoy holiday festivities—particularly the music. In today’s podcast episode, graffiti artist Man One and filmmaker VONJAKO join host Scott “Sourdough” Power to discuss the creative journey behind the music video for “Christmas in L.A.,” a unique hip-hop holid…
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Frame by Frame: Visual Storytelling With Stop-Motion Animator Jessie Rodriguez
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1:00:05What motivates an artist to choose one of the most painstaking visual storytelling methods available? In today’s podcast episode, host Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with 2024 NOT REAL ART grant winner Jessie Rodriguez to discuss the meticulous craftsmanship behind her stop-motion movies. The Denver-based artist specializes in animated shorts cr…
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Alison Hiltner: Innovation, Installation Art, and Sci-Fi Cinema
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1:09:11What if art could unlock the mysteries of science and reveal the hidden connections between technology, nature, and the human experience? In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Alison Hiltner, a visual artist based in Minneapolis and the Associate Director of the Soo Visual Arts Center. She …
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DesignerCon 2024 Hits the Jackpot: Founder Ben Goretsky Brings Art and Collectibles to Sin CityDesignerCon 2024 Hits the Jackpot: Ben Goretsky Brings Art & Collectibles to Sin City
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55:37They say what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas, but some secrets are too juicy to remain buried in the neon glow of the Strip. In today’s podcast episode, we dive into the exciting world of DesignerCon as it transitions from Anaheim to Las Vegas, where the art world is about to collide with the neon lights and vibrant culture of Sin City. Visionary …
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Rebuilding Asheville After Hurricane Helene
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17:53How can Asheville’s artists rebuild after Hurricane Helene? In this heartfelt episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sheds light on the creative community in Asheville, North Carolina, in the aftermath of the tropical storm. With over 300 artists displaced and studios destroyed in Asheville’s River Arts District, Scott refle…
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Photographer Michael Freas: Resilience in Asheville After Hurricane Helene
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1:15:10When natural disasters strike, they don’t just destroy homes; they can devastate entire communities, livelihoods, and creative legacies. In this special edition of Art World Horror Stories, Asheville-based photographer Michael Freas shares the harrowing tale of Hurricane Helene’s destruction, which left hundreds of local artists without studios or …
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Robbie Conal and Karen Fiorito: How Political Art Fuels Activism
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50:07Art has the power to disrupt the status quo, challenge authority, and ignite social change. Just ask today’s guests, whose provocative artworks have sparked conversation in the political realm for decades. In today's episode, we welcome legendary provocateur Robbie Conal and activist artist Karen Fiorito to discuss the transformative power of polit…
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PBS Producer Nic Cha Kim on the Sacred Responsibility of Storytelling
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58:55How does PBS harness the power of personal identity and diverse storytelling to challenge the status quo? In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough Power” sits down with Nic Cha Kim, the senior producer of arts and culture at PBS SoCal, to find out. Nic produces Artbound, an award-winning anthology documentary serie…
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If you’ve ever set foot in Black Rock City, you’ll know Burning Man isn’t just a festival. It’s a living, breathing canvas where art, technology, and human connection collide in the most unexpected ways. In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder and veteran burner Scott “Sourdough” Power shares his experience at Burning Man 2024, which unfol…
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‘Indivisible 2024’: United We Stand, Divided We Fall
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58:36As the 2024 U.S. presidential race intensifies, art remains a powerful tool for political activists. From protest posters to public installations, art shapes the conversation and challenges the status quo. But how exactly does art influence social change, and what role does it play in a deeply divided nation? In today’s podcast episode, curator Kar…
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Nastassja Swift: Our 2024 NOT REAL ART Grant for Artists Recipient
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1:02:52Art has the power to engage communities, connect diverse histories, and elevate the stories that shape our world. In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with 2024 NOT REAL ART grant recipient Nastassja Swift to discuss the artist’s mission of transformation through visual storytelling. Based in V…
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Blessing Hancock: Transforming Abstract Ideas Into Monumental Public Art
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53:32How do you transform abstract ideas into striking monumental art? In today’s podcast episode, host and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Blessing Hancock to discuss the artist’s visionary public art projects, which span the globe. Listen to our conversation with Blessing Hancock on the player below to learn more about buil…
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Classic Black: Celebrating Black Excellence in Classical Music
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9:07What do William Grant Still, Joseph Bologne, and Florence B. Price have in common? They’re all Black composers who contributed to the canon of classical music. Today’s podcast episode spotlights Classic Black, a groundbreaking youth program celebrating Black excellence in classical music. Created by Montreal-born pianist, accordionist, producer, co…
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How Burning Man’s Katie Hazard Chooses the Art at Black Rock City
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57:57Right now, over 400 artists are preparing to unveil their avant-garde installations at Burning Man 2024. Staged annually at Black Rock City in the Nevada desert, the festival is a huge undertaking and massive success, thanks in no small part to Katie Hazard, the festival’s longtime associate director of art management. In today’s podcast episode, h…
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Author Steve Grody: A Visual History of LA Graffiti
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1:06:55When Steve Grody first noticed spray-painted murals popping up around Los Angeles in the ’80s, he swooned over their daring colors and stylized calligraphy. Since then, he’s dedicated himself to understanding and cataloging the evolving graffiti scene in LA. His book, Graffiti L.A.: Steet Styles and Art (2007), is a comprehensive visual history of …
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The Artist’s Guide to Packing for Business Travel
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19:15Whether you’re a painter, potter, or candlestick maker, efficient packing is crucial for a successful business trip. In today’s podcast episode, frequent traveler and NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power shares his packing tips for fuss-free business travel. From choosing the right luggage to packing light, this episode has everything artis…
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Balcones Distilling: The Art of Crafting American Whiskey
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1:09:04Whiskey is more than just a drink; in fact, the word “whiskey” derives from the Gaelic phrase uisge beatha, meaning “water of life.” In today’s podcast episode, NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power sits down with Jared Himstedt and Gabe RiCharde of Balcones Distilling to discuss the duo’s philosophy on crafting fine whiskey in Waco, Texas. …
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Diarra Bousso: From Wall Street to Sustainable Fashion Design
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52:33Not everyone would leave behind a cushy career on Wall Street to pursue their creative pipe dreams. Then again, not everyone is Diarra Bousso. Today, the Senegal-born, Silicon Valley-based entrepreneur joins us to discuss her remarkable journey from financial trader to founder of DIARRABLU, a sustainable, size-inclusive fashion and lifestyle brand.…
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It's the height of summer in North America, making it the perfect time for a getaway. If you're planning a trip, consider this episode your friendly travel guide! Scott “Sourdough” Power recently embarked on an inspiring journey to Asheville, North Carolina, which we at Not Real Art proudly call the Capital of American Craft. Whether you're an arti…
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Announcing the 2024 NOT REAL ART Grant Recipients
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16:32Submissions for the 2024 NOT REAL ART grant have come to a close, marking the end of a rigorous and methodical selection process by our esteemed panel of judges. With six $2,000 grants at stake and over 1,200 incredible applicants to choose from, the journey has been long and challenging, but the wait is finally over. Today is the day that we annou…
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Samuel Douek of Thunderflix: Netflix for Metalheads
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52:25While struggling to watch a concert by one of his favorite metal bands online, Samuel Douek realized there was a gap that needed to be filled. Thus, Thunderflix was born, the world's first on-demand video streaming service dedicated exclusively to heavy metal music and its ardent fans. Samuel built his career as the founder and director of the Hola…
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SNL Cue Cards: Behind the Scenes With Wally Feresten
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1:07:47Wally Feresten, iconic cue card writer for shows like SNL and Late Night with Seth Meyers, Explores his craft's artistry and his journey during the pandemic. He shares how he adapted to the challenges, starting his successful business, Cue Cards by Wally, and the joy of bringing personalized cue cards into people's lives globally. Wally also reflec…
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Why the Creative Arts Are Experiencing a Full-Blown Renaissance
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21:22Are the creative and performing arts experiencing a 21st-century renaissance? NOT REAL ART founder Scott “Sourdough” Power thinks so. “What's left when you've lost faith in your church, in your company, in your government?” he ponders in this week’s podcast episode. “What's left when you feel like all the fundamentals have lost their integrity and …
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Muralist Michelle Hoogveld: The Power of Color, Connection, and Love
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1:01:57Instantly recognizable and beaming with positivity, Michelle Hoogveld’s colorful, kaleidoscopic murals demonstrate the power of love, connection, and color. Her graphic, geometric compositions weave an intricate tapestry of joy and passion, the relationships we form with each other, and the one thing that connects us all: love. “I chose February 14…
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Kate Averett Anderson of Black Mountain College: Birthplace of the American Avant-Garde
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1:03:35Despite its short lifespan, Black Mountain College (BMC) left a lasting legacy as an influential pioneering arts institution that challenged traditional academic structures and fostered a unique community of creative thinkers. Founded in 1933 just 20 minutes outside of Asheville, NC, the college emphasized holistic learning and the study of art as …
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Moral Masuoka of Beautify Earth: Connecting the World With Street Art
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1:06:25In a world full of digital noise, street art can tell vital stories, rejuvenate urban spaces, and bring communities closer together. For over 10 years, creative agency Beautify Earth has collaborated with artists and brands to connect communities through murals, street art, and strategic marketing. Today’s guest, Beautify Earth CEO Moral Masuoka, j…
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What Does an Ethical Code of Conduct Look Like for Artists?
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16:09“First, do no harm.” Written nearly 2,500 years ago in Greece, the Hippocratic Oath and its principles hold a sacred place in the hearts and minds of doctors to this day. Traditionally sworn by graduating medical-school students, the Oath remains the gold standard for ethical practices in Western Medicine. While codes of ethical conduct are commonp…
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Katie Love of Laugh Gallery: Celebrating the Art of Comedy and the Comedy of Art
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31:16Editor’s note: Today’s special episode comes to us from our friends at Laugh Gallery, who operate under the Crewest Studio network of podcasts alongside NOT REAL ART. Despite what your parents told you, comedy is an art. Comedy writing is difficult, and crafting laughs is no easy feat, especially when the stakes are so high. “Funny” varies from per…
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Graffiti Artist Man One Returns for the First Episode of the NOT REAL ART Podcast
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19:52As you may or may not know by now, we share some compelling creative conversations from the NOT REAL ART archives a couple of times a month. In today’s very special replay, we're throwing it all the way back with a truly historic episode: the very first one! As you’ll discover, it isn’t quite as polished as the podcast you’ve come to know and love.…
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John Houck: How Therapy Helped the Former Software Engineer Find His Artistic Voice
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56:00Former software engineer John Houck is a multidisciplinary artist whose work examines human perception and memory. From subtly folded and rephotographed pieces of paper to paintings of psychological landscapes overlaid with personal objects, John explores how shadows can act as signatures of both the condition and the limits of our experience, play…
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Confidence, Cohesion, and Team-Building: What Artists Can Learn From Dress Rehearsal
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30:40Performing for a live audience in a new, unpredictable setting requires tremendous concentration. The stage is bigger than your studio, someone sneezes or coughs, a cell phone rings, and your costume is way itchier than your practice sweats. How do you stay focused when your performance space is full of distractions and irrelevant stimuli? Enter th…
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Z-Trip: How ‘America’s Best DJ’ Pushes the Boundaries of Creativity
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1:04:27Editor’s note: Today’s special episode comes to us from our friends at The Conduit, who operate under the Crewest Studio network of podcasts alongside NOT REAL ART. In the ‘90s, rock was rock, hip-hop was hip-hop, and never the twain did meet. Then, at the turn of the century, a 73-minute, genre-bending bomb exploded onto the music scene, shatterin…
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Judy Baca of SPARC: Transcending Public Art With Participatory Neighborhood Murals [Podcast]
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1:00:23Editor’s note: An earlier version of this episode ran in March 2021 and has been updated with a new introduction. Historically, street art has been used as a powerful tool for community engagement thanks to its ability to transcend physical and social boundaries. In today’s special podcast episode, guest host and muralist Erin Yoshi sits down with …
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The 10 Friends Who Will Make Your Life Richer, Fuller, and More Rewarding
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21:53Birds of a feather flock together… right? As human beings, we are naturally drawn to people who look and think like us, but limiting our friendships to a homogenized group of people reduces our ability to see the world in all of its richness and complexity. Our own lives become smaller and less rewarding as a result. “If we're only talking to the p…
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Stained Glass Artist Amanda Maccagnan: Spirituality, Rebellion, and Alchemy
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59:09“Making artwork probably saved my life,” says mixed-media artist Amanda Maccagnan. “[It] helped me figure out who I am, where I was going, and what I was doing—and it continues to do.” Navigating the boundary between traditional techniques and contemporary influences, Amanda is rapidly making a name for herself as a rising star in the art world. Wo…
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Artsville: Looking at the World Differently with Kenn Kotara
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1:01:05You might already know this, but here at Crewest Studio, we produce several different podcasts. One of these podcasts is Artsville, which celebrates American contemporary art and craft from Asheville, North Carolina, and beyond. If you’re looking to discover world-class artisans, artists, craftspeople, and makers, Artsville has it all: from paintin…
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Embracing the Power of Creativity in All its Forms with Teddy Margas
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1:05:25As part of our mission to reinvigorate the NOT REAL ART Podcast schedule in 2024, we’re not only introducing you to new artists every month but we’re also revisiting the archives to bring you creative conversations that you might have missed! In this episode, you’ll have the opportunity to reconnect with Teddy Margas, a charismatic actor, writer, c…
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