In this limited series from the New York Times, hear conversations with business and policy leaders at the heart of today’s major stories, recorded live at the annual 'DealBook Summit' event in New York City. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.
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I’m Gavin Newsom. And, it’s time to have a conversation. It’s time to have honest discussions with people that agree AND disagree with us. It's time to answer the hard questions and be open to criticism, and debate without demeaning or dehumanizing one other. I will be doing just that on my new podcast – inviting people on who I deeply disagree with to talk about the most pressing issues of the day and inviting listeners from around the country to join the conversation. THIS is Gavin Newsom.
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And, This Is How The Media Is Failing Us In 2026 With Alex Wagner
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1:27:13Alex Wagner (Crooked Media) joins the show to talk about why legacy media is struggling, what stories will matter in 2026 and how Democrats can find their senses of humor. Plus, Alex shares why she'd love to get rid of the internet and why she refuses to become too negative. 00:00 Celebrating New Years With A Cold Plunge 5:15 The Difference Between…
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Re-Release: And, This Is Gaming Culture & Gen-Z Nihilism With Content Creator Brandon _Atrio
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58:36Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling. SUBSCRIBE NOW: h…
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And, This Is A Look Back At The Biggest Moments of 2025
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12:18As the year comes to a close, the show looks back at some of the conversations that sparked debate, challenged assumptions, and cut across the political divide. In this special end of year rewind episode, Governor Gavin Newsom revisits significant moments from his discussions with Charlie Kirk, Steve Bannon, Scott Galloway, Atrioc, and Ben Meiselas…
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And, This Is How Trump Loses His Base with Tim Miller of The Bulwark
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1:02:07The Bulwark's Tim Miller joins the podcast to discuss being a leading figure in the Never Trump movement, the growth of The Bulwark and how Donald Trump is starting to make the mistake of a normal politician. Plus, Tim shares what it's like spending time with the Turning Point crowd and which Democrats could actually reach young men. 0:00 Intro 2:3…
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Leveraging Innovation to Revive the American Dream
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1:18:11Watch all of the day’s interviews. Prosperity today feels concentrated in a few places, leaving many Americans questioning whether the system still works for them. This panel asks how universities and the private sector can work together to address this critical issue. Can universities help restore faith in the American dream? Not just by educating…
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Watch all of the day’s interviews. The modern business leader walks a tightrope: between fighting for the success of their company and shareholder value; between communication and leadership ability, demands for innovation, media representation, political pressures and international dynamics and besting their competition. So, we asked: How do they …
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Watch all of the day’s interviews: The Trump administration’s funding threats aren’t the only issue colleges and universities are facing. There’s also rising antisemitism on campus, and challenges in managing student free speech and demonstrations. What is the future of research without government grants and funding? How will the courts adjudicate …
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Watch all of the day’s interviews: As we approach a full year of the Trump administration, the president has transformed the world order. Old institutions like NATO, the United Nations and the World Trade Organization are diminished, even in doubt, and the old trade regime and assumptions about alliances are gone. Relationships are transactional, a…
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Should People Still Trust the Media in 2025?
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1:32:55Watch all of the day’s interviews: Audiences are changing the way they watch, listen and consume. We’re at an inflection point on the influence of traditional journalism and journalists versus personality-driven and perspective-driven voices. Panelists: Charlamagne tha God, co-host of “The Breakfast Club” and co-founder of The Black Effect Podcast …
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And, This Is Governor Newsom Live At The DealBook Summit With Andrew Ross Sorkin
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43:07Governor Newsom chats with Andrew Ross Sorkin in front of a live audience at the New York Times DealBook Summit in New York. Listen in as they discuss the future of the country, the state of the Democratic party and how to fight the Trump administration. 0:00 - The Democratic Party Is A Big Tent Party 3:26 - The Importance of Democratizing Our Econ…
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Taiwan’s President Warns China Is Getting More Aggressive
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13:48President Lai Ching-te of Taiwan discusses China’s increasing military hostility toward the United States. Mr. Lai is facing pressure on many fronts, including increasing military hostility from China, fierce trade negotiations with the U.S. and tough resistance from the oppositional Nationalist Party. A semiconductor powerhouse, Taiwan has sought …
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The YouTuber Jimmy Donaldson, better known as MrBeast, discusses fame, why he thinks YouTube is the best place platform for creators and how he tries to avoid controversy. Then Chief executive of Beast Industries, Jeff Housenbold, joins Mr. Donaldson to discuss how the duo work together — and why they take so few days off. Subscribe today at nytime…
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Halle Berry, the actor and founder of Respin, which offers menopause symptom care programs, shares a talk on aging in Hollywood and her struggle with perimenopause. Ms. Berry encourages more dialogue and support for women in midlife. If men “had a medical condition that disrupted their sleep, brain function and sex life,” the actor said, “we’d be c…
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Anthropic Chief Executive Has A.I. Bubble ‘Concerns’
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35:56Anthropic’s chief executive Dario Amodei discusses the risks of an A.I. bubble and said that the industry’s enormous spending could backfire. He describes the “cone of uncertainty” that exists around A.I. spending as his company must manage the risk of spending either too much or too little. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podca…
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G.M.’s Chief Executive Remains Bullish on Electric Vehicles
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24:17The General Motors chief executive Mary Barra discusses why she will continue to improve the fuel-efficiency and emissions of G.M.’s cars and trucks even if federal standards are weakened. She also discusses why the automaker is investing in E.V.s, competition and the Trump administration’s E.V. policies. “People choose an E.V. because it’s a bette…
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Alex Karp Defends Palantir’s Work With ICE
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44:57In a punchy conversation, Alex Karp, chief executive of Palantir, defends his company’s work aiding the Trump administration’s immigration crackdown and rejects claims Palantir is building mass surveillance tools. He says his support for Mr. Trump is driven by the two issues he cares most about: “immigration and restoring the deterrent capacity of …
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Netanyahu Is Defiant In Face Of Legal Challenges
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26:15Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he would still visit New York despite a pledge by the city’s mayor-elect, Zohran Mamdani, to honor an arrest warrant issued by the International Criminal Court on charges of war crimes. The prime minister also discusses the corruption charges he is facing, as well as his political future. “When history is with…
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Erika Kirk on Why She Forgave Her Husband’s Killer
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40:02Erika Kirk, the widow of Charlie Kirk, discusses her role leading Turning Point USA, the influential nonprofit he founded. Ms. Kirk also urges more dialogue to bridge political differences. “Could you imagine if AOC and Nancy Mace said, `Let’s go get Subway?’” she asked. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You …
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Newsom Says Trump’s Attacks Are “Not Normal Behavior”
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44:11Gov. Gavin Newsom of California, who has positioned himself as a potential Democratic presidential candidate in 2028, discusses the future of the Democratic Party, how he uses social media to hold up a mirror to Mr. Trump and why he thinks business leaders are bending the knee to the president. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Po…
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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent discusses how President Trump contributed to his change in perspective on tariffs: “I’ve had an open mind, and I’ve evolved on this, and the president has been right,” he said. Mr. Bessent also discusses the United States’ trade deal with China, inflation and Mr. Trump’s potential pick for the Federal Reserve chair.…
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Larry Fink and Brian Armstrong Are Not Worried About Another Crypto Winter
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34:25Larry Fink, chief executive of BlackRock, and Brian Armstrong, chief executive of Coinbase, discuss their united and optimistic vision for the future of crypto. The two haven’t always seen eye to eye. Mr. Fink, who was once a Bitcoin skeptic, shares what made him turn positive on crypto in an interview alongside Mr. Armstrong, the chief executive o…
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Andrew Ross Sorkin — a New York Times business columnist and the founder of DealBook — shares a new round of conversations from the 2025 Dealbook Summit. Hear from Dario Amodei, the chief executive and co-founder of Anthropic; Jimmy Donaldson, the YouTube creator and philanthropist known as MrBeast; Scott Bessent, U.S. Treasury Secretary; and Erika…
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And, This Is How The World Looks At Us Under Trump With Ian Bremmer
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1:13:45Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with Ian Bremmer, president of Eurasia Group, founder of GZEROMedia, and one of the most influential geopolitical analysts in the world. Together they assess whether the United States is still seen as a reliable global partner. Bremmer breaks down how President Trump is reshaping alliances, why U.S. foreign policy fe…
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And, This Is A Final Election Day Push With Aaron Parnas
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13:03Gavin Newsom sits down with Aaron Parnas for an Election Day conversation and why voting Yes on Prop 50 matters. SUBSCRIBE NOW: https://linktr.ee/govgavinnewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.By iHeartPodcasts
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And, This Is Flooding The Zone With Truth Ft. Ben Meiselas of MeidasTouch
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1:14:23Gavin sits down with Ben Meiselas, co-founder of MeidasTouch and one of the most influential progressive voices in digital media. Meiselas breaks down how independent creators are outpacing corporate media, why Democrats must “flood the zone with the truth,” and how the right exploits tragedy to manipulate public perception. From Trump’s con on Ame…
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And, This Is How To Solve The Climate Crisis With President Clinton
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29:00Live from the Clinton Global Initiative, Governor Gavin Newsom sits down with President Bill Clinton to discuss leadership, climate change, innovation, and the future of public service in America. They also discuss California’s fight against wildfires and rising insurance costs, the global stakes of green energy, and the role of AI in shaping tomor…
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And, This Is Trump's Shutdown With Senator Chris Murphy
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47:12Gavin Newsom sits down with Senator Chris Murphy to discuss if Trump cares about the human impact of a government shutdown and whether bipartisanship is still possible in today’s polarized climate. Then they dive into the mounting tensions of putting troops in the streets, and how Democrats can redefine their brand amidst the chaos. 0:00 Intro 1:40…
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And, This is Trump's Invasion With JB Pritzker & Tina Kotek
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42:44As fears of martial law grow, Governors Gavin Newsom, JB Pritzker, and Tina Kotek break down what’s really happening with the National Guard, ICE, and federal power. They discuss how states are pushing back, whether we can rely on the courts, and what it means for the future of American democracy. 00:00 Introduction 2:40 Breaking News From Illinois…
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And, This Is A Department Of Justice Under Attack With Attorney General Eric Holder
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43:12Former Obama AG, Eric Holder, joins the podcast to talk about the government shutdown, James Comey's innocence, and how scared we should be about a large police force that's only loyal to one man. Time Codes: (00:00) It's Time To Be Afraid (6:31) James Comey Is Not Getting Convicted (11:22) Shut It Down For Healthcare (17:01) Obama's Influence On T…
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And, This Is Gaming Culture & Gen-Z Nihilism With Content Creator Brandon "Atrioc" Ewing
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58:36Brandon Ewing aka Atrioc joins the show to talk with Gavin about gaming culture and whether violent video games lead to violent acts. Then they decide what it will take for Gen-Z to reject this administration, if a college degree is worth it, and whether online culture is a cause or symptom of the nihilism young people are feeling. SUBSCRIBE NOW: h…
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And, This Is A Rally For Yes On Proposition 50
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1:52:29Governor Gavin Newsom and Brian Tyler Cohen are joined by an all-star lineup of politicians and creators to raise awareness and funds for Yes on Prop 50, also known as the Election Rigging Response Act. Featuring Senators Elizabeth Warren & Alex Padilla, Representatives Jasmine Crockett & Maxwell Frost, a West Wing Reunion, the guys from Pod Save A…
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And, This Is Sean Spicer On Why He Thinks People Want To Be On Team Trump This Time Around
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56:48Former White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer on the lessons of a second term Trump, firings at the Fed, if we should worry about journalism's future, and whether this administration is prioritizing loyalty over facts. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudio.com/listen…
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And, This Is Former DNC Chair Jaime Harrison On Fighting For What's Right
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1:07:09Former head of the Democratic National Committee Jaime Harrison shares why Democrats must fight for every seat, what inspired him to run for office, and how to message effectively so voters don't stay home. Check out Jaime's podcast At Our Table with Jaime Harrison IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewso…
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And, This Is Trump’s Attack on Voting Rights With Jasmine Crockett
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50:44Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett breaks down Donald Trump’s systematic dismantling of our democracy — from Texas’ redistricting and California’s response, to Trump's latest attack on the ballot box, and the dystopian National Guard presence in Washington, D.C. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone…
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And, This is How We Prevent Election Rigging with Heather Cox Richardson
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31:37Heather Cox Richardson and Gavin Newsom discuss breaking news around the Governor’s latest efforts to stop Donald Trump’s election rigging schemes, Border Patrol’s surprise visits to Newsom’s rally, and California’s freshly announced special election this November. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewso…
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Beto O’Rourke Is Risking Arrest To Protect Texas’s Voters
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39:13Former Texas Representative Beto O'Rourke talks Ken Paxton's calls for his arrest, anti-redistricting rallies, and how his Powered By People PAC is fighting Governor Abbott's plan to give Donald Trump a third term. Discussed in this episode: How Hitler Dismantled a Democracy in 53 Days IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected]…
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And, This Is The Texas Democratic Legislative Delegation
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51:14Facing arrest warrants and Republican calls for their removal, Members of the Texas Legislature arrive in Sacramento to discuss attempts to gerrymander their state and what California can do to stop it. Members joining the conversation; Gina Hinojosa (HD 49) Vince Perez (HD 77) Rhetta A. Bowers (HD 113) Ray Lopez (HD 125) Ann Johnson (HD 134) Mary …
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The Governor responds to listener questions on California's proposed redistricting and what Trump's war on the Bureau of Labor Statistics means for our democracy. To have your own questions answered, email the show at [email protected] or leave a voicemail at 855-6NEWSOM IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Substack: Gavinnewsom See omnystudio.co…
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Co-Host and Contributor of The Daily Show, Jordan Klepper, joins the podcast to discuss being a MAGA rockstar, how he learned about the Late Show’s cancellation, and whether California’s redistricting is enough to stand up to Donald Trump. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See o…
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And, This is How The Left Fails Young Men with Richard Reeves
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56:39Founder & President of the American Institute for Boys and Men, Richard Reeves joins the show to discuss why young men are so lost and what can be done to reach them. Warning: This episode discusses suicide and suicidal feelings. If you or someone you know is struggling, help is available. Please contact the 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline by calling…
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In our continued conversation, Ryan Murphy talks about the future of Hollywood, how to bring production back to Los Angeles, and shares his upcoming projects. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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And, This is Ryan Murphy On The Menendez Brothers, The Kennedys, and Kim Kardashian
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36:38Fresh off his latest Emmy nominations, Hollywood legend Ryan Murphy shares his thoughts on The Menendez Brothers, The Kennedys, Kim Kardashian, and California as the entertainment capital of the world. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy inf…
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And, This is Pod Save America's Jon Favreau & Tommy Vietor
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1:11:30Crooked Media's Jon Favreau & Tommy Vietor discuss Gavin's appearance on The Shawn Ryan Show, Epstein conspiracy theories, and how Donald Trump is trying to cheat his way through the 2026 election. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informa…
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Extended Conversation: How To Live Forever With Dr. Sanjay Gupta
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31:15In our extended conversation, Dr. Sanjay Gupta talks about preparing for the next pandemic, whether to put fluoride in the water, and what we eat that makes us sick. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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Vaccine skepticism, why Americans aren't healthy, and how to "do your own research" with Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Check out his upcoming book to be published in September 2025, IT DOESN’T HAVE TO HURT: YOUR SMART GUIDE TO A PAIN-FREE LIFE IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudi…
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Former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta joins the show to talk about Trump's deploying the military to California, how playing politics weakens our national security, and what Congress should be doing right now. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudio.com/listener for pri…
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Taking On Fox News (Live with Terry Moran!)
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21:02Terry Moran joins the conversation to discuss the lawsuit against Fox News, meeting families hurt by Trump's immigration policies, and what to make of the NYC mayoral race. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Substack: Gavinnewsom Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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Richard Haass analyzes the situation in Iran and breaks down the future of the Middle East. Then, the former diplomat and President Emeritus of the Council on Foreign Relations discusses what an America First foreign policy really means for the rest of the world. IG: @ThisisGavinNewsom Email: [email protected] Phone: 855-6NEWSOM See…
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And, This is Aaron Parnas (Live on Substack!)
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15:00Independent journalist Aaron Parnas and Governor Newsom discuss the Trump administration’s push toward a constitutional crisis and the protests this past weekend. Note: This conversation was recorded prior to the federal appeals court hearings on 6/17. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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