Best Dev And Doc Podcasts (2025)

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Everything you need to know about LLM benchmarks- Turing Test, OpenAI's Healthbench, ARC prize, LM arena 55:19

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Whenever there was AI, there were benchmarks- from the turing test, to society-changing benchmarks like MNIST and ImageNet to modern problems like the ARC prize, benchmarked served a vital purpose to measure the performance of AI models. But something has shifted in modern times, in the LLM era have benchmarks lost their utility, becoming mere adve…

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#28 AI agents explained - Manus AI, computer control, Agentic workflows (healthcare) 1:00:48

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AI agents are here, but how did we get here in the first place? How do we build and leverage AI agents for high stakes domains like healthcare? In this episode of Dev and Doc, we go deep into the forest that is AI agents and computer control - starting from the "caveman" era of LLMs discovering tools, to cultivating intelligent models and agentic w…

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#27 Exploring Claude Sonnet 3.7 for healthcare 58:03

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#26 Is it still worth doing a PhD in 2025? (Computer Science / Machine Learning) 56:41

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Is it still worth doing a PhD in 2025? Is the academic system broken in this publish-or-perish landscape? When is a PhD not worth pursuing? About this Episode In this Dev and Doc episode, Zeljko (now associate professor!) and Josh (doctor, PhD drop out) talk about the good and the bad of PhD life. They provide insight into the academic world with a…

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Flavors of DevRel: tummeling, docs, SDKs, meetings, and conferences 44:45

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In this episode, we reconnect for season 3, after a short hiatus to chat about life in Developer Relations (DevRel) at bigger companies, the avalanche of meetings that come with onboarding, the rollercoaster of prepping for big events like GDC, and the ongoing quest to create top-tier documentation and SDKs. We swap tips for maximizing AI tools, re…

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#25 Testing Deepseek R1 on Complex Medical Tasks. Here's what we found. (GRPO explainer) 1:20:45

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Dev and Doc put Deepseek R1 to the test in a technical and clinical deep dive. 👋 Hey! If you are enjoying our conversations, reach out, share your thoughts and journey with us. Don't forget to subscribe whilst you're here :) 👨🏻‍⚕️Doc - Dr. Joshua Au Yeung - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-joshua-au-yeung/ 🤖Dev - Zeljko Kraljevic https://twitter.com/…

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#24 Significantly advancing LLMs with RAG (Google's Gemini 2.0, Deep Research, notebookLM) 57:46

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Dev and Doc - Latest News Dev and Doc - Latest News It's 2025, Dev and Doc cover the latest news including Google's deep research and notebook LM, DeepMind's Promptbreeder, and Anthropic's new RAG approach. We also go through what retrieval augmented generation (RAG) is, and how this technique is advancing LLM performance. 👋 Hey! If you are enjoyin…

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Travel Tech/Gear and Learning Game Dev 46:19

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This week we talk about travel from a tech/gear lens and learning game development. CJ is back from Italy apple pay, currency conversion, splitwise, train, google maps, translation apps, tour headsets Colin's food tip: Topjaw on youtube Airalo for esim Train travel in europe is amazing! One-bag travel, having an extra smaller bag Pack Hacker Colin …

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Wordpress Drama and Discord Activities 45:16

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In this episode, we discuss the WordPress vs. WP Engine drama. We also chat about Discord Activities, the new way to embed games and experiences directly in Discord. Resources https://replicate.com/ https://mikecann.co.uk/posts/battletabs-global-launch-on-discord-activities https://a16z.com/discord-activities-social-gaming/ Tech Crunch Wordpress Dr…

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To AI Assist or not to AI Assist? 43:28

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CJ and Colin chat about AI tools and coding environments. Pros and cons, daily workflows, and challenges of various AI-driven coding tools like VS Code, Cursor, and Copilot. We also talk about the broader implications of AI in content generation, particularly on platforms like LinkedIn, and emphasize maintaining a human touch in communication to av…

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Personal Knowledge Management (Second Brain) 40:02

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In this episode, you'll learn about the PARA Method for organizing your notes and tasks, emphasizing the importance of balancing craftsmanship with delivering real customer value. Discover insights from Pieter Levels' success with straightforward tech stacks and recurring revenue from multiple startups. The discussion covers the power of building i…

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Our Daily Drivers: Hardware and Software Edition 36:42

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In this episode, Colin and CJ discuss their audio and video setups, ideal microphones, cameras, and software for content creation. They dive into the specifics of the equipment they use and recommend budget-friendly options for those just getting started. Additionally, they touch upon some useful applications and tools that streamline their workflo…

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Rails 20th Anniversary, Writing Culture 42:27

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In this episode, we celebrate the 20th anniversary of Ruby on Rails, reflecting on its impact and vibrant community. We share Rails origin stories from the late 2000s and early 2010s. You'll hear about different companies' reading and writing cultures, including practices like decision documents, meeting notes, and internal newsletters. You'll hear…

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#23 Can OpenAI's GPT o1 solve complex medical problems? 39:44

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First Thoughts and Preliminary Insights into OpenAI's GPT o1 Strawberry in the Medical Domain With some expected and unexpected findings, we have a "bake off" between o1 and Doc to demonstrate how o1 fares with tricky medical scenarios. Disclaimer Obviously, don't use AI to diagnose or treat your medical problems. If you are unwell, please seek a m…

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DevRelCon, Red Eyes, and Enums 44:01

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We discuss visiting NYC, DevRelCon, red-eye flights, and why enums are terrible. Some of the bits and bobs mentioned in this episode: - DevRelCon - Chef's Table (S2E1 Grant Achatz) / Alinea - Steal Like An Artist by Austin Kleon - CJ enumerating lessons about enumsBy CJ Avilla, Colin Loretz

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Two Years of Build & Learn 43:36

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We're celebrating our 50th episode and two years of podcasting. In this milestone episode, we reflect on what has kept us consistent, our laid-back approach to podcasting, and give a shoutout to you! We also explore how social media affects consumer behavior and share tips for managing digital consumption and mental health. You'll also hear about o…

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#22 Explaining Explainable AI (for healthcare) with Dr Annabelle Painter (RSM digital health section Podcast) 58:40

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Dev and Doc is joined by guest Annabelle Painter, doctor, CMO, and podcaster for the Royal Society of Medicine Digital Health Podcast. We deep dive into explainability and interpretability with concrete healthcare examples. Check out Dr. Painter's Podcast here, she has some amazing guests and great insights into AI in healthcare! - https://spotify.…

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Enum Types, Coworking Software, and more Atomic Habits 41:34

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Producer's note: This episode should have gone out as episode 48 ahead of Webhooks! This is our missing episode. Join us next episode for episode 50! Colin has a fitness update: working on the lungs, breathing and stress in general. CJ is digging into enums and converting them to models at Craftwork. More to come on that topic soon. Colin continues…

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#21 Foundational Models in Digital Pathology: Enhancing Cancer detection and outcomes 1:01:43

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An explainer on Foundation models for pathology, from Microsoft's Gigapath to Owkin's H-optimus-0, every company, big or small, are building pathology AI models. In this episode, Doc talks to Sean M. Hacking, assistant professor in Pathology at NYU Grossman School of Medicine and Özgür Şahin, particle physicist at CERN. Together they are building t…

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Webhooks! 39:29

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In this episode, you'll learn about webhooks and how they enable event-driven integrations. We cover webhooks, how they work, and best practices for providers and consumers. Topics: - The evolution of webhooks and how they compare to traditional API polling methods - Implementing webhooks securely, including verification techniques - Strategies for…

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#20 How to build a successful healthTech/ BioTech start-up (2024 roadmap) - Derrick Khor 1:08:33

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Doc talks to Dr Derrick Khor - Cancer Doctor, HealthTech Consultant and Linkedin Guru. We share Derrick's insights from consulting over 120 companies and a step-by-step guide on how to build a successful Healthcare company. You can find more of Derrick and his helpful guides - https://adoptadoc.com/resources/ profile- https://www.linkedin.com/in/de…

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Summer Fit Check, Cron Schedulers, and Sample Apps 44:52

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CJ and Colin with the summer updates and fitness check-in. We dive into cron jobs, scheduling those jobs with various tools and services and best practices for when/how to cron. - Summer updates - CJ's live peloton class in the studio - Peloton hotel finder - Colin gives a RTO recap - Craftwork update, one year of the Rails codebase - Realtime proj…

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#19 Tracking health with technology and AI - demystifying digital biomarkers 1:03:36

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Dev and Doc deconstruct digital biomarkers! This is a fascinating and nascent field in the world of medicine, how have biomarkers transformed the way we practice medicine, and how will AI and wearables, sensors and digital fingerprints transform the way we practice in the future? Hey! If you are enjoying our conversations, reach out, share your tho…

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Monoliths, GraphQL, Next.js, and DevRel Insights 38:47

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Colin and CJ explore the ongoing debate between monolithic architectures versus API-driven frontends, touching on the pros and cons of GraphQL and REST. The conversation also covers the intricacies of integrating Next.js with Rails applications. On the personal front, CJ shares his solar pool heater project and Colin prepares for his upcoming relay…

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Last RailsConf, Gameboy Nostalgia, and Platform Risk 47:19

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This week, CJ and Colin talk about content clickbait, Gameboy nostalgia, and the in-vogue topic of AI/LLMs. CJ dives into some cautionary tales around more API integrations and his steps to avoid platform risk while trying to build software at a growing company. Finally, we bid farewell to RailsConf and discuss the market for Ruby/Rails conferences…

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#18 Keith Grimes - Startups and doctors, HealthTech consulting, Babylon's demise, Leadership theory 1:09:33

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Dr Keith Grimes is a HealthTech consultant and General Practitioner working with companies to transform clinical ideas into something impactful. He worked as the digital health director in Babylon Health prior to its demise, and currently runs his own consulting firm, Curistica. This is one not to miss!ReferencesHealthTech consulting at Curistica w…

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Slow Productivity, Write The Docs 40:23

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In this episode, you'll hear about the Write the Docs conference in Portland, a must-attend for anyone in the tech writing community. CJ and Colin chatted about the unique, community-focused vibe of the event, which was akin to RailsConf or RubyConf, and shared some standout talks. One highlight is Calvin Fung's "Beyond Words: Strategies for Leveli…

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#17 How to build a clinically safe Large Language Model - Hippocratic AI, Llama3, Biollama 43:24

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How do we reach the holy grail of a clinically safe LLM for healthcare? Dev and Doc are back to discuss news with Meta's LlaMA model and potential of healthcare LLMs finetuned on top like BioLlaMa. We discuss the key steps in building a clinically safe LLM for healthcare for healthcare and how this was pursued by Hippocratic AI's latest model - Pol…

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APIs, Acquisitions, and Event Emitters 40:57

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This week, we discuss building companies on top of API integrations and recent acquisitions that we've been following closely and dig into some tech we're both using in our daily work. If you feel like you have a lot going on in your world right now, we also tease our upcoming episode on Cal Newport's newest book, Slow Productivity. - Postman acqui…

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GDC, Buckets, and more calendars 42:08

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In this episode, Colin shares insights from the Game Developers Conference (GDC) on cutting-edge technologies like motion capture and AI-powered game creation. We'll chat candidly about the challenges of achieving work-life balance, recognizing burnout signs, and staying productive amid demanding software projects. Additionally, we'll explore perso…

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Digital homesteading, Discord SDKs and more house stuff 50:36

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In this episode, we talk about that subscription fatigue that is coming for us all. CJ has been working on some homesteading projects, including maple syrup harvesting and an AI birdspotting camera. Colin finally reveals what he's been working on at work: a new SDK! What we're building - CJ is homesteading: maple syrup - Raspberry PI + camera + AI …

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Campfire Code Read 36:39

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In this episode, we'll dive into the codebase of Campfire, a product released by the 37signals (now Basecamp) team. Sharing our initial impressions of the codebase hitting some of these topics: - The use of helpers and views in this Rails app - The gems and dependencies - The decision to use SQLite - The integration of Hotwire, Stimulus, and front-…

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#16 Dev&Doc x Rewired - LLMs, Clinical foundation models and automating administrative tasks (live) 46:59

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In this special episode we share a live recording of our live podcast episode at the Rewired UK conference, where NHS, industry and policy markers unite. We discuss current LLMs from a technical and practical perspective. Dive into how to build Foundational models for the National health service and our experiences. We were also privileged to be jo…

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Creating vs Consuming, Consistency & Fitness 46:43

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This week, Colin and CJ discuss how differently we can feel when we get caught in the mindless doomscrolling traps of consuming content rather than creating things, interacting with other IRL humans, and more! - Accountability/fitness update - Quick update on Buckets! - Consumption vs Creation - Learning styles - Badass Course Creators podcast: Rai…

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#15 The death of Prompt Engineering 34:52

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What do Prompt engineers have in common with telephone operators in the 1870s? Spoiler - they're both dying professions👨🏻‍⚕️Doc - Dr. Joshua Au Yeung - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-joshua-auyeung/🤖Dev - Zeljko Kraljevic https://twitter.com/zeljkokrThe podcast 🎙️🔊Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/devanddoc 📙Substack: https://aiforhe…

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Performance review season, OpenAPI, Twilio, and calendar app 38:13

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In this episode of Build and Learn you'll hear CJ and Colin discuss the following: CJ's weekend project of installing new kitchen cabinets. They share the DIY process of customizing and installing inexpensive cabinets from Lowe's. Running and training tips, including focusing on "zone two" aerobic base training. Colin shares his goals to rebuild hi…

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#14 Aligning AI models for healthcare | Understanding Reinforcement Learning from Human Feedback (RLHF) 42:01

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How do we align AI models for healthcare? 👨‍⚕️ And importantly, the moral codes and ethics that we practice everyday, how does the LLM deal with ethical scenarios like the trolley problem for example? This is a fascinating topic and one we spend a lot of time thinking about.In this episode Dev and Doc, Zeljko Kraljevic and I cover all the up to dat…

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Our Daily Drivers: The Tools We Use 43:24

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2024! This week, we're sharing the various tools we use day-to-day in our work and side projects. Let us know if you have any favorites on Twitter @buildandlearn_ Building CJ: working on a side project, https://buckets.cjav.dev Colin: working on some fun docs projects at work Learning: Sharing Our Tools in 2024 Tools by Category Terminal Editor API…

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#13 Research begins when hype ends - Doc's adventure, LlaMa3 , Code LlaMa, Gemini Ultra 18:04

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In this episode Doc goes on an adventure to chair an LLM/ generative AI conference session and reflects on his experience. Dev and Doc also discuss big news on meta's Llama3 and Code LlaMa.Dev and Doc is a Podcast where developers and doctors join forces to deep dive into AI in healthcare. Together, we can build models that matter.👨🏻‍⚕️Doc - Dr. Jo…

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Co-Founders, Layoffs, Ruby Memory, Docs Product 39:06

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In this episode, we'll touch on office setup and soundproofing, with a focus on effective techniques and materials. We talk about the challenges and strategies in finding non-technical co-founders for startups, emphasizing the importance of shared values and complementary skills. The episode also delves into the impact of AI on the tech industry, p…

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#12 2024 AI Predictions : Ambient clinical intelligence, language models as commodities, GPT-5 and AGI 46:15

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Dev And Doc are back ! Here we break down the biggest highlights of 2023, and AI predictions for 2024.Dev and Doc is a Podcast where developers and doctors join forces to deep dive into AI in healthcare. Together, we can build models that matter.👨🏻‍⚕️Doc - Dr. Joshua Au Yeung - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-joshua-auyeung/🤖Dev - Zeljko Kraljevic h…

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Replacing Mint, Finishing Things & Vim 40:23

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Chris and Colin wrap up 2023 chatting about personal finance, website annotations, vim and a growing need to "finish" something over starting yet another thing. Replacing Mint Colin is using Copilot money CJ was using YNAB earlier this year Tagging + podcast expenses: notion, zencastr, transistor, descript Use our referral code 7X6AQD to get 2 mont…

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Advent of Code, Economic Development 37:38

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In this episode, Colin and CJ discuss their experience with Advent of Code challenges. They use it as a virtual meetup for their local developer group and the value of solving problems in new languages. They also talk about live streaming using Twitch's built-in Stream Together feature and alternatives like Meld Studio for multi-person streaming se…

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#11 The AI race to automate clinical coding 28:01

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We have conversations between doctors and developers exploring the potential of AI in healthcare Josh is a training Neurologist in the NHS, and AI researcher in St Thomas' hospital and King's College Hospital. He is also a PhD student at King's College London. Zeljko is an AI researcher and PhD student at King's College London, as well as a CTO for…

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Coworking: Grit or Quit & Polish Week at Craftwork 48:47

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This week we're digging into when to hold on and when to call it quits when it comes to a business. The team at Craftwork is paying down tech debt with Polish week. We also chat about USB hubs, llamas, and how to get started on YouTube. BUILDING CJ: Polish week at Craftwork - cleaning up code formatting, todos, tests, UI polish and clean up, DX cle…

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#10 The building blocks of AGI - Google's Gemini, OpenAI's Q* 28:37

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In this episode, Dev and Doc sit down to discuss artificial general intelligence from the perspective of a neurologist and computer scientist. We dive into the current developments around AGI , the 2 controversial schools of thought, LLMs and neuroscience, and give hot takes about whether we will ever reach AGI. Dev and Doc is a Podcast where devel…

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AI launches, Docs, Calendars 40:57

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In this episode, we catch up on recent tech events, discussing in detail the AI launches at both OpenAI and GitHub. We chat about the Hu.ma.ne AI pin, and touch on GitHub Universe. We also talk about Docs implementations and the challenges of managing and maintaining code snippets in documentation. Show notes: Docs Astro Starlight - https://starlig…

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#09 De-identifying 21 million hospital records with over 99% recall 39:40

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De-identifying and anonymising PHI (protected/personal health information) in health records is one of the central pillars of AI success in healthcare. Without de-identified data we cannot share data between hospitals , train models confidentially, or safely create large language models. Live from new orleans, Dev and Doc are here to dive into this…

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Mint Shutting Down, Project Catchup 44:24

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Episode 31 Intuit is apparently shutting down Mint, pushing folks to Credit Karma Colin's school bus update Building CJ is continuing to build out a comms center for managing customer comms in a scalable way for Craftwork. SAML` Colin is working on the conference room booking app, Likely use jumpstart for all stuff you need when you build something…

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#08 the state of healthcare (and why large language models should be used) 37:00

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What is the current state of healthcare in the UK, is it ethical for patients to use LLMs for their healthcare ? Dev and Doc is a Podcast where developers and doctors join forces to deep dive into AI in healthcare. Together, we can build models that matter.Hey! If you are enjoying our conversations, reach out, share your thoughts and journey with u…