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In our Religion Block we hear from a caller who asks why God can denounce empty and pious platitudes from Christians who refuse to actually help the needy, while he himself rarely seems to show up in times of trouble. In response we suggest that perhaps God only helps the poor by means of his people, and that he neither afflicts nor heals anyone di…
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In this week’s Politics Block we discuss Elon Musk’s claim that President Trump’s name is in the infamous Epstein files. Springboarding from there, we discuss the various blackmail operations that intelligence agencies such as the Mossad and C.I.A. regularly engage in, suggesting that the Diddy case may be such an example.…
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In this week’s Culture Block we talk about AI and its potential effects on Hollywood and the film industry, as well as the number of erstwhile human jobs it will make redundant. We then discuss a recent reel about The Wonder Years and whether something like that could be made today.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In our Religion Block we share a new “Pastor Jack’s Off” segment, this time hearing Jack Hibbs insist that all non-believers share a vehement hatred of evangelical Christians, but that the latter must endure that hatred out of love for God. Unfortunately for Pastor Jack, if he is in fact “hated,” it has absolutely nothing to do with his so-called f…
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In this week’s Politics Block we discuss a new proposal by the San Francisco School District to drastically lower academic standards in an effort to create equity. We share our frustration with the school system as it currently stands, as well as highlight the systemic challenges that educators today face.…
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In this week’s Culture Block we consider Scott Galloway’s take on current dating statistics, particularly women’s standards for prospective male partners, as well as precisely how ideal a possible partner has to be in order to continue the relationship.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In our Religion Block we talk about the propriety of the Christian waiting for a “Superbeing” to save him, and apply Bonhoeffer’s “Religionless Christianity” to this issue. We then hear from a caller asking for clarification on what “dogma” is and what it means to say that it cannot be changed.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In this week’s Politics Block we take a call from a listener asking about the Save Act and what, if any, restrictions should be placed on potential voters’ rights. We then discuss Trump’s “Big Beautiful Tax Bill,” seeking to determine just how progressive or regressive it actually is. We close with a brief teaser about the effect Modern Monetary Th…
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In this week’s Culture Block we hear from a listener expressing some doubts about the legitimacy of Deadbots, which springboards into a conversation regarding just how helpful AI really is. We discuss the potentially dangerous ramifications of outsourcing our mental skills to computers, and where this could potentially leave us if continued uncheck…
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In our Religion Block we hear from Pastor Jack Hibbs about how horrible it is for Muslims to create their own cultural and religious ghettos (even though when Christians and Jews do it it’s perfectly fine). We springboard to immigration and discuss the proper relationship of the one to the many.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In this week’s Politics Block we engage with Bill Maher’s latest “New Rule” on the topic of liberals insisting on purity tests to judge how enlightened and woke their fellow Democrats are. We also apply this to the dating world, where a similar dynamic exists.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In our Religion Block we talk about Bishop Robert Prevost’s election to the papacy as Pope Leo XIV, addressing the question of to what degree, if any, the conservative trajectory among American Catholics informed or influenced the Vatican’s decision to choose him to fill the office.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In this week’s Politics Block we share some firsthand experience of how broken our health care system is in this country, and then we hear from a listener with some push-back against our coverage of Bill Maher’s experience having dinner with Trump at the White House.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In our Religion Block we address a question from a patron about balancing an admiration of the Catholic Church with a healthy and Exilic suspicion of Empire. We then launch into another segment of “Pastor Jack’s Off,” during which we laugh at Pastor Jack Hibbs’s attempt at explaining Good Friday.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In this week’s Religion Block we listen to Pastor Jack Hibbs's report of the death of Pope Francis, discussing the former’s insistence on the pope being born again as well as the connection between the papacy and the Exile/Empire paradigm outlined in our last Religion Block. Jason then addresses some questions from our patrons about the issue of So…
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In this week’s DXP Politics Block we discuss Bill Maher’s recounting of his visit to the White House and spending a few hours with his mortal enemy, Donald Trump. We reflect on Maher’s surprising (even to him) account of Trump’s behavior and overall demeanor, as well as the question of whether he should have accepted the invitation in the first pla…
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In this week’s DXP Culture Block we discuss the new film, The Sinner, which made Christian frustrated (not because he didn’t like it, but because he didn’t like it as much as the glowing reviews made him expect to). Then we turn our attention to the heroic, unprecedented, and death-defying trip that some celebrities took to space for eleven minutes…
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In this episode of DXP we dive into the tariffs discussion, pointing out their usefulness within the context of a fully-orbed commitment to American workers, while doubting their utility in isolation from such a plan. We also highlight the irony of so-called Leftists praising free trade agreements.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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With this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we are trying out a new format! In this first of three weekly blocks we focus on culture, and specifically the sexual assault and rape case against English comedian and political commentator Russell Brand. We reflect on the odd nature of the timeline of events leading to the charges being filed, as well as the …
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we continue our trip down memory lane, highlighting the movies we have seen that have had a big impact on our lives. We focus on the years 2007 to the present day, chatting about Interstellar, Whiplash, About Time, Midnight in Paris, and lots of others.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we continue our trip down memory lane, highlighting the movies we have seen that have had a big impact on our lives. We focus on the years 1998 – 2007, chatting about the Lord of the Rings trilogy, The Notebook, Garden State, and lots of others.By Christian Kingery, Jason Stellman, Drunk Ex-Pastors
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We begin this episode with some banter about the Lakers game that Jason took his dad to, and then we continue our respite from all things political and divisive by discussing the movies that most impacted us. This week we go from 1987-1997, talking about such films as Say Anything, Forrest Gump, Braveheart, and Good Will Hunting — sharing what we w…
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In this episode we take a much-needed break from politics and dedicate the majority of the episode to taking a walk down Movie-Memory Lane. We begin the year we each saw our very first movie in a theater (1977), and then list the films we remember seeing, why we enjoyed them, and how they impacted us. We make it to 1987, and will pick up from there…
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In this episode of DXP we hear from Christian about his latest visit to the ER, and Jason shares his final update on his mom. We discuss the Oscars and the issue of celebrity culture more broadly, wondering if the time of rich entertainers lecturing the public is finally over. We discuss the show Severance, and then hear from a caller about whether…
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We begin this episode of DXP by discussing Taylor Sheridan, and his shows Yellowstone and Land Man in particular. Christian shares what he has learned from Ancestry.com, and then gives us an Oscar update. We talk about the book Blind Spots, and then hear from a caller asking for clarity on our segment about Jon Stewart and the so-called fascism tha…
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We begin this episode with a discussion about various Oscar-nominated films, hardly any of which Jason has heard of. We briefly discuss the drama surrounding Blake Lively and the side effects of Ozempic, and then turn our attention to whether or not people on the right regret their vote for Trump. We touch on DOGE, Gaza, and USAID, and then hear fr…
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk about the fact that “fundamentalist” is not an inherently religious posture, but can be applied to politics as well. We discuss the film Emilia Perez, which critics love but audiences don’t (presumably because every single one of them is a transphobe). We hear from a caller about his frustration over the …
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We begin this episode in the middle of a conversation about the blockbuster trade that the Lakers just pulled off, and quickly pivot to Elon Musk’s “Nazi salute” during the presidential inauguration party, discussing whether or not Musk is actually a Nazi or just thinks they’re cool. We listen to Bishop Budde’s exhortation to Trump about being merc…
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We spend most of this episode discussing the recent (but temporarily suspended) TikTok ban. We lay out why TikTok is unique and important and what might be the impetus behind the government's desire to ban TikTok. We discuss the "TikTok refugees" fleeing to RedNote, another social media platform actually owned by China, and the unfettered access it…
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We kick off this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with an update about the health of Jason’s mom (or lack thereof), which springboards into a discussion of death and how we cope with it. We talk about the Los Angeles fires and the public’s reaction to wealthy people losing their homes, and then discuss the current state of political discourse and its pa…
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we catch up on some listeners’ voicemails. We discuss the issue of campaign promises and whether they reveal candidates’ actual intentions, or if they’re only generic indicators of their ideology. We talk about the intertwining of democracy and violence, expressing serious suspicion about whether the former is ev…
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In this episode of DXP Christian forces Jason to take an online test without knowing what exactly is being tested. We discuss the recent extradition of folk hero (*I meant for folk hero to have a strikethrough*) vigilante Luigi Mangione, and wonder aloud whether his “manifesto” will ever be made public, as well as the disproportionate response to h…
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In this episode of DXP we discuss the murder of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson by Luigi Mangione, as well as the latter’s new status as an internet folk hero. We talk about the anniversary re-release of the film Interstellar, which leads to the recent appearance of mysterious drones over New Jersey and other cities. We address Trump’s joke ab…
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In this episode we wrap up our post-election thoughts and discuss the fallout of our daring and unprecedented suggestion that we listen to our opponents with an open mind (gasp!). We address some of our listeners’ concerns and pushback, offering some pushback of our own, ultimately concluding that charitable discourse begins with letting those acro…
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Drunk Ex-Pastors returns! In this episode we give a few teasers about what the show will look like going forward (greater focus on concrete segments, more frequent but shorter episodes, and so on). We then engage in some post-election analysis as well as personal introspection concerning how best to navigate the next four years (and step one will i…
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In this 500th episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we hear from a listener who suggests that the two reasons someone might leave Christianity are either doctrinal or interpersonal. We then spend the bulk of the show discussing our political differences, including third-party voting, idealism vs. pragmatism, the value of campaign promises, and whether a Harr…
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In this episode of DXP we address Jerry Seinfeld’s recent retraction of his earlier insistence that wokeness makes comedy impossible. We hear from a listener asking about Neil deGrasse Tyson’s formulation of the problem of evil, and then talk about Noah Yuval Harari’s new book, Nexus, and what it has to say about the dangers of AI. Biebers involve …
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In this episode of DXP we hear an update about Christian’s hip surgery, which leads into the discussion about the potentially endless spiral of doctor’s appointments that people often get sucked into. We discuss a few new films and TV shows, including The Substance, which Jason will never see. We discuss the current limits on free speech as well as…
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we sit down once again with author and journalist Katherine Stewart (with whom we also spoke just before the 2020 election). Katherine is an expert on the issue of Christian Nationalism, and our conversation touched upon topics such as the relationship of religion to power, Christian Nationalism vs. Islamic Extre…
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We begin this episode of DXP hearing from Christian about his (alleged) epidural, which leads us down a rabbit trail about science fiction and the mystery of the human brain. We briefly discuss just how young the United States is (three people old to be exact). We discuss the theory of Panspermia (which is not as exciting as it sounds), and then la…
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We begin this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors with a recap of Christian’s recent vacay to Asia, from which we springboard to whether it’s okay to eat our pets. We discuss the new Max documentary, Wise Guy, about David Chase and The Sopranos, which leads into one of Jason’s theories involving Goodfellas and The Godfather. “Pastor Jack’s Off” returns, wh…
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In this episode of Drunk Ex-Pastors we talk a bit about corporate sponsorship of literally everything, and then spend a fair bit of time dissecting the music and mythology of the band Twenty One Pilots, springboarding into issues surrounding power and the resistance to it. We listen to Pastor Jack being off (again), and then share biebers involving…
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We begin this episode with a brief rant about Amazon Alexa and how she’s a useless horrible person who deserves to die. We then hear from a caller insisting that Jason should watch that new Godzilla movie. We take a call from another listener who is going through a divorce, so we share some of the ups and downs from our own lives. Another caller se…
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We begin this episode with a discussion of the new Beverly Hills Cop movie, springboarding to the issue of whether comics lose their edge as they get older. We revisit Brats, the recent documentary about Hollywood’s “Brat Pack,” and then hear from a TikTokker about just how monumental the Trump assassination would have been had it succeeded. We dis…
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