Economists are always talking about The Pie – how it grows and shrinks, how it’s sliced, and who gets the biggest shares. Join host Tess Vigeland as she talks with leading economists from the University of Chicago about their cutting-edge research and key events of the day. Hear how the economic pie is at the heart of issues like the aftermath of a global pandemic, jobs, energy policy, and more.
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Energy Policy Institute At The University Of Chicago Podcasts
SmarterMarkets™ brings you the entrepreneurs, icons, and executives of commodities, capital markets, and technology to rant on the inadequacies of our systems and riff on ideas for how to improve them. Our weekly episodes explore how technology can be leveraged to redesign and improve markets to meet society’s biggest challenges, including climate change and the energy transition.
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Off The Charts Energy Podcast
Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago & UChicago Podcast Network
At the Energy Policy Institute, we love our charts. That’s why we’re bringing you analysis of today’s top trends and policies grounded in the latest evidence off the charts.
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Summer Playlist 2025 Episode 2 | Michael Greenstone, Director, Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago (EPIC)
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46:26This week on Summer Playlist 2025, we welcome Michael Greenstone into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. Michael is Director of the Energy Policy Institute at the University of Chicago (EPIC), Founding Director of the University’s Institute for Climate and Sustainable Growth, and Milton Friedman Distinguished Service Professor in Economics. David Greely s…
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Summer Playlist 2025 Episode 4 | Albert Cheng, CEO, Singapore Bullion Market Association (SBMA)
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43:59We continue our Summer Playlist this week with Albert Cheng, CEO of the Singapore Bullion Market Association (SBMA). SmarterMarkets™ host David Greely sits down with Albert to discuss the SBMA's vision for Singapore to become a leading global center for the trading of gold and other precious metals – and the SBMA's roadmap to making that vision a r…
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Summer Playlist 2025 Episode 3 | Jeff Currie, Chief Strategy Officer of Energy Pathways, Carlyle
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40:27On our third installment of Summer Playlist 2025, we welcome Jeff Currie back into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. Jeff is Chief Strategy Officer of Energy Pathways at Carlyle. David Greely sits down with Jeff to discuss the implications of the breakdown of the world order that has defined the post-World War II era – implications Jeff lays out in his n…
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When Religion Meets the Marketplace: Faith, Farming, and Trade-Offs
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23:22What happens when your religion forbids the production of crops that dominate your local economy? In this episode, UChicago economist Eduardo Montero unpacks new research on the economic costs of religious prohibitions, and how these trade-offs shape church membership, satisfaction, and even sermons.…
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Summer Playlist 2025 Episode 1 | Michelle Finneran Dennedy, Chief Data Strategy Officer, Abaxx Technologies
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53:47We kick off our Summer Playlist 2025 this week with Michelle Finneran Dennedy, Chief Data Strategy Officer at Abaxx Technologies. David Greely sits down with Michelle to discuss why CEOs and organizational leaders are shifting how they view data from seeing it as a risky liability to potentially seeing it as their greatest asset – and what that mea…
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Green Bubble Stigma: Texting, Status, and Market Power
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26:31A text bubble might seem trivial, until it shapes market dynamics, personal identity, and federal lawsuits. In this episode, UChicago economist Leo Bursztyn discusses how Apple’s green bubble design creates a powerful lock-in effect that reinforces Apple’s market dominance.By Becker Friedman Institute at UChicago
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 12 | Dan McElduff, Siddiq Farid, David Gornall, and Steve Lowe from Abaxx Exchange and Abaxx Spot
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36:53We close out Gold for the 21st Century this week with a special roundtable episode with Dan McElduff (President, Abaxx Exchange), Siddiq Farid (Managing Director, Abaxx Spot), and David Gornall and Steve Lowe (Strategic Advisors for Precious Metals, Abaxx). David Greely sits down with them to discuss their experience and insights at the 2025 Asia P…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 11 | Thomas McMahon, Co-Founder, Abaxx Technologies
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40:49We continue Gold for the 21st Century this week with Thomas McMahon, Co-Founder of Abaxx Technologies. David Greely sits down with Thomas to discuss how the role that gold may play in our financial system in the near future is not that different from the one gold and silver played in the not-so-distant past. They also explore precious metals' marke…
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How is AI impacting the economy today? What might this mean for tomorrow? This episode brings you inside a discussion hosted at BFI in April. Moderated by Caroline Grossman, Executive Director of the Rustandy Center for Social Sector Innovation, the conversation features: Anders Humlum, Assistant Professor of Economics, Chicago Booth; Sanjog Misra,…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 10 | Greg Sharenow, Managing Director & Portfolio Manager for Commodities and Real Assets, PIMCO
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37:41This week on Gold for the 21st Century, we welcome Greg Sharenow back into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. Greg is Managing Director & Portfolio Manager for Commodities and Real Assets at PIMCO. David Greely sits down with Greg to discuss how policy uncertainty and inflation are shaping the investing landscape and the role that commodities and real ass…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 9 | Sakhila Mirza, President, Responsible Gold
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32:32We continue Gold for the 21st Century this week with Sakhila Mirza, President of Responsible Gold. David Greely sits down with Sakhila to discuss the role of standards, data, and technology in building an ecosystem of trust for responsible and sustainable gold.By Abaxx Technologies Inc.
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Economist Brent Neiman recently returned to UChicago from his position as Deputy Undersecretary for International Finance at The US Treasury, only to find his research being used (and misused) in the Trump administration’s sweeping new tariff policy. In this episode, Neiman walks us through what the original study actually showed, how it got misint…
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Special Episode | A SmarterMarkets Remix: Ideas Worth Repeating
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1:00:36It’s a holiday weekend in the United States, and we thought it would be a good time to revisit some of the big ideas that our guests shared with us over the past year. Meeting the new commercial realities created by the globalization of the natural gas market, the energy transition to a lower carbon economy, and the rise of artificial intelligence …
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 8 | Steve Lowe, Former Managing Director, Co-Head of Global Base and Precious Metals, Scotiabank
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45:48On this week’s installment of Gold for the 21st Century, we welcome Steve Lowe into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. Steve is Former Managing Director, Co-Head of Global Base and Precious Metals at Scotiabank. David Greely sits down with Steve to talk about his experience and insights into the gold markets from his time leading the iconic Scotia metals …
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Between a Chip and a Hard Place: The Economics of Security and Sovereignty in Taiwan
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28:42What does Taiwan’s precarious position reveal about global power, economic leverage, and the unraveling of diplomatic norms? In this episode, economist Chang-Tai Hsieh returns to unpack Taiwan’s tangled political history, its deep economic entanglement with China, and the global stakes of Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company (TSMC). From fear…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 7 | Michael DiRienzo, President & CEO, The Silver Institute
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32:11This week on Gold for the 21st Century, we welcome Michael DiRienzo, President & CEO at The Silver Institute, into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. David Greely sits down with Michael to discuss the outlook for silver, its role in the energy transition, and the role it can and should play in investor portfolios and our financial system in the 21st centu…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 6 | Josh Crumb, Founder & CEO, Abaxx Technologies
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42:28We continue Gold for the 21st Century this week with Josh Crumb, Founder & CEO of Abaxx Technologies. SmarterMarkets™ host David Greely sits down with Josh to discuss how gold has shaped Josh’s vision and mission to build smarter markets throughout his career. They also talk about how the gold market is where the many dimensions of Abaxx come toget…
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An Extra Slice of the Pie: Choosing with Uncertainty
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48:40How can policymakers make choices when confronted with uncertainty? What happens when the public loses confidence in scientific authority? Are scientists, including economists, overconfident? Nobel Laureate and UChicago economist Lars Hansen, a leading authority on uncertainty in economic decision-making, tackles these and related questions in this…
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Tariffs, Trust, and the Twilight of Norms: U.S.–China Relations in the Trump Era
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27:08What happens when trust in longstanding economic norms starts to break down? In this episode, economist Chang-Tai Hsieh explores the geopolitical and economic consequences of the Trump administration’s foreign policy, particularly its approach to China. From China’s post-COVID recovery stumbles to a global flood of low-cost EVs, Hsieh unpacks the d…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 5 | Gregor Gregersen, Founder, Silver Bullion Group
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54:30This week on Gold for the 21st Century, we welcome Gregor Gregerson, Founder of Silver Bullion Group, into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. David Greely sits down with Gregor to discuss the role of gold and precious metals in protecting wealth, the physical infrastructure and technology required, and why creating and maintaining trust remains the founda…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 4 | Don Casturo, Founding Partner & CIO, Quantix Commodities
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26:19We continue Gold for the 21st Century this week with Don Casturo, Founding Partner and Chief Investment Officer at Quantix Commodities. David Greely sits down with Don to discuss the role of gold in protecting investors' portfolios, the drivers of recent gold market performance, and how de-dollarization is changing the way gold trades relative to o…
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War Economies: How Ukraine and Russia Are Adapting in Year Three
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24:58More than three years after Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the war continues to reshape not only geopolitical alliances but also the economies of both countries. In this episode of The Pie, host Tess Vigeland is joined by Konstantin Sonin, John Dewey Distinguished Service Professor at the University of Chicago’s Harris School of Public Po…
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Special Episode | Scenes from the FT Commodities Global Summit 2025
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35:42We present a Special Episode of SmarterMarkets™, bringing you exclusive interviews from the FT Commodities Global Summit 2025. SmarterMarkets™ returned to the annual Financial Times Commodities Global Summit in Lausanne, Switzerland this March, where commodity traders get together to talk about the markets and how they’re navigating them. In retros…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 3 | Wade Brennan, CEO & Co-Founder, Kilo Capital
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35:20This week on Gold for the 21st Century, we welcome Wade Brennan, CEO & Co-Founder of Kilo Capital, into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. David Greely sits down with Wade to discuss the effects of the recent tariff-related price volatility and pricing dislocations on the users of gold, as well as the role of bullion banking in the gold market of the 21st…
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Crypto’s Fatal Flaw: Trust, Scale, and the Economics of Blockchain
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46:00Crypto’s most groundbreaking innovation, permissionless consensus, may also be its greatest vulnerability. In this episode, Chicago Booth economist Eric Budish breaks down the core mechanics of blockchain trust, the staggering energy costs behind mining, and why these systems are fundamentally exposed to majority attacks. Tune in for a deep dive in…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 2 | Sunil Kashyap, Managing Director at FinMet Pte Ltd., Singapore
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24:19We continue Gold for the 21st Century this week with Sunil Kashyap, Managing Director at FinMet Pte Ltd., Singapore. David Greely sits down with Sunil to discuss the role of gold in Asia, what the West can learn from it, and what new market infrastructure and technology can lead to smarter gold markets in Asia for the 21st century.…
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Special Episode | Scenes from FIA Boca 2025
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42:25We present a special mid-week episode of SmarterMarkets™, bringing you exclusive interviews from FIA’s BOCA50 – the International Futures Industry Conference. SmarterMarkets™ returned to FIA Boca to be a part of BOCA50, the 50th anniversary of the International Futures Industry Conference. We partnered with the FIA to interview a wide-range of futu…
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Gold for the 21st Century Episode 1 | David Gornall, Strategic Advisor for Precious Metals, Abaxx Exchange & Former Chairman, LBMA
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30:12This week, we kick off our new series Gold for the 21st Century with David Gornall. Gornall is Strategic Advisor for Precious Metals at Abaxx Exchange, Former Global Head of Precious Metals Trading at Natixis, and Former Chairman of the LBMA. SmarterMarkets™ host David Greely sits down with Gornall to discuss where gold market infrastructure is not…
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Will They or Won't They? A Former Fed Official on This Week’s Interest Rate Decision
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31:26This week, the Federal Reserve's Open Market Committee meets to decide whether to adjust interest rates or keep them steady. What should we expect amid today's economic and political uncertainty? On this episode of The Pie, Randy Kroszner, former Federal Reserve Governor and Norman R. Bobins Professor of Economics at the Booth School of Business, d…
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Carbon Frontiers 2025 Episode 6 | Belinda Ellington, Principal, Ellington Resolution + Senior Advisor, IETA + Former MD, Global Head of Commodities Legal, Citi
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55:54We wrap up Carbon Frontiers 2025 this week with Belinda Ellington, Principal at Ellington Resolution, Senior Advisor at IETA, and Former MD, Global Head of Commodities Legal at Citi. David Greely sits down with Belinda to discuss the challenges that banks face in carbon markets and sustainable finance – and why establishing the legal nature of veri…
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Many of us react to the term “performance review” with a shudder. It’s that awkward periodic conversation in which we have to hear feedback, share our assessments of each other, and, occasionally, clash with our colleagues. But do performance reviews have to be like that? We hear from Chicago Booth's Stacey Kole. Does she think that performance rev…
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Carbon Frontiers 2025 Episode 5 | Peter Fusaro, Founder, Wall Street Green Summit
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32:46This week on Carbon Frontiers 2025, we welcome back Peter Fusaro, Founder of the Wall Street Green Summit. David Greely sits down with Peter to discuss where we are in carbon markets and the energy transition – and the other big issues on the agenda as we head into the 24th annual Wall Street Green Summit in New York City on March 18-19.…
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The Future of U.S. Energy Policy Under Trump
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30:53President Donald Trump has declared a “national energy emergency,” expanding executive powers to shape U.S. energy policy in his second term. What could this mean for the future of American energy? In this episode of The Pie, Ryan Kellogg, the Ralph and Mary Otis Isham Professor and Deputy Dean for Academic Programs at the Harris School of Public P…
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Carbon Frontiers 2025 Episode 4 | Rene Velasquez, Managing Partner, Valitera
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35:14We continue Carbon Frontiers 2025 this week with Rene Velasquez, Managing Partner at Valitera. David Greely sits down with Rene to discuss the ‘tale of two cities’ state of the carbon markets – and the challenges and opportunities in getting carbon finance flowing.By Abaxx Technologies Inc.
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Carbon Frontiers 2025 Episode 3 | Peter Zaman, Partner, HFW Singapore
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54:15This week on Carbon Frontiers 2025, we welcome back Peter Zaman, Partner at HFW Singapore. David Greely sits down with Peter to discuss the impact of the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement and how the rest of the world's response, whether ideological or pragmatic, will determine the path forward. They also talk about the need for a greater focu…
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The Economics of Health Insurance: Denials, Pre-Authorizations, and Cost Control
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42:55The debate over health insurance denials intensified last year after the assassination of UnitedHealthcare’s CEO. In this episode of The Pie, host Tess Vigeland unpacks the economic forces shaping the US healthcare system with economists from the University of Chicago’s Harris School of Public Policy. Josh Gottlieb examines the financial burden of …
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Carbon Frontiers 2025 Episode 2 | Alasdair Were, Head of Environmental Markets, Abaxx Exchange
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29:53On our second installment of Carbon Frontiers 2025, we welcome Alasdair Were, Head of Environmental Markets at Abaxx Exchange, back into the SmarterMarkets™ studio. David Greely sits down with Alasdair to discuss how recent dramatic policy changes and hard economic realities are influencing both corporate and government approaches to the energy tra…
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