If you’re a property manager looking to scale your business beyond 300, 500, or even 1,000 doors, you’ve come to the right place. You might be asking - Is it worth it? How do I do it? Where do I find the money? What about the people? Trust us, we've made every mistake you can think of...then we made some up. Listen in as we describe what worked and what didn't on our journey from 300 to 3,000 houses.
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Are you a new investor looking to buy your first rental property? Or a busy executive looking to deploy capital into cash flowing rental properties? Are you interested in flipping houses or becoming a wholesaler? Are you looking to invest in different markets around the US? If you fall in any of those buckets, this podcast is for you. Join seasoned rental investors and co-hosts Matthew Whitaker, Spencer Sutton, and Gray Hall for in-depth conversations about real estate investing, deal analys ...
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Do you want to learn the ins and outs of owning rental property in Birmingham, Alabama? Want to hear from local pros as they break down the areas, the deals, and even pitfalls rental owners fall into? Then you've come to the right podcast. Join rental experts, Matthew Whitaker and Spencer Sutton, as they provide you with the local scoop and interview both hometown and nationally-renowned investment heroes.
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Do you want to learn the ins and outs of the Atlanta, Georgia real estate market? Want to hear from local pros as they break down the areas, the deals, and even pitfalls from decades of experience? Then you've come to the right podcast. Join real estate experts, Matthew Whitaker and Spencer Sutton, as they provide you with the local scoop and interview both hometown and nationally-renowned investment heroes.
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Episode 153: Losing It All in 2008: How He Turned a Failing Business into 470 Doors | Todd Ried
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46:22In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Todd Reid reveals how the 2008 financial crash wiped out his financing, forced mass layoffs, and pushed him into full-time property management. He reveals exactly how he rebuilt from survival mode to a 470-door property management portfolio with actionable steps that any aspiring wealth-buil…
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Episode 114: How To Deal With Squatters In Your Rental Property
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30:24How do you deal with squatters in your rental property? In this episode of The Evernest Real Estate Investor Show, Spencer Sutton and Adam Hobson discuss their squatter stories and the creative ways they dealt with them in their rental properties. You'll Learn: The difference between squatting and non-paying tenants Why squatting is on the rise Out…
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Episode 152: What Happens If Your Bank Fails Today? (PM Owners Need To Know THIS) | Marshall Fulton
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30:52Most property managers think their trust accounts are set up correctly, but many are completely wrong - and that can lead to devastating consequences. In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Marshall Fulton from Enterprise Bank breaks down the truth about trust accounts, FDIC insurance, and so much more. Contact Marshall on his Li…
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Episode 113: Most Investors Buy the WRONG Houses (Do This Instead)
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41:48Which kinds of properties are best for real estate investors? In this episode of The Evernest Real Estate Investor Show, Spencer Sutton and Adam Hobson discuss their approaches to purchasing high ROI investment properties, including the different specs they look for between fix-and-flips vs. long-term rentals. You'll Learn: Where to start when cons…
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Episode 151: Why this PM Owner Has a 4.8-Star Rating with 1,000 Doors (Trent Ratliff)
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48:28In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, property management owner Trent Ratliff tells host Spencer Sutton how he scaled from 200 to 1,000 doors across Atlanta and Montgomery. You'll discover: How Trent accidentally found himself contributing to the 2008 market crash The one decision that changed Trent's life and led to 1,000 doors…
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Episode 112: The Best Way to Fund Your First Real Estate Deal (Even with No Money)
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27:28How do you fund your first real estate deal if you don’t have money? In this episode, Spencer Sutton and Adam Hobson break down creative real estate financing strategies used by investors to buy deals without using their own cash. Whether you're flipping houses, buying rentals, or wholesaling, this episode shows how real estate investors finance de…
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Episode 150: Culture > Contracts: Courtney Parks’ Playbook for Growing a Human-Driven PM Business
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49:21In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Spencer Sutton sits down with Courtney Parks, Principal Broker & Director of Operations, Allegiance Property Management, to dive into: How Courtney fell into property management and rose to lead her company What it means to suddenly be the one setting the vision and culture—even when it’s no…
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Episode 111: How to Find Real Estate Deals in 2025 (Most Investors Don't Know This)
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39:27All successful real estate investors have one thing in common: they land deals. In this episode, Spencer and Adam offer actionable advice on how to start or improve your lead generation efforts - including why 99% of newbies fail (and how to be part of the 1% who win). You’ll Learn: How to find real estate deals for free The importance of persisten…
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Episode 149: Want to Grow? This is the Way
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56:00In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Spencer and Matthew sit down with longtime friend and recruiter, Dylan Scroggins — Founder of Kalmar Group and property management’s unofficial headhunter. They cover: Why your “founder story” doesn’t matter to an A-player (and what does) The #1 role property managers get wrong when hiring W…
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Episode 110: Real Estate Investing Mistakes that Will Cost You Thousands
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30:25In this no-fluff, real-talk episode, Spencer and Adam pull back the curtain on the most common and costly mistakes real estate investors make. Whether you're just starting or scaling your portfolio, this episode will save you serious money, time, and stress. Adam shares battle scars from his first 12 deals, Spencer confesses to his eviction nightma…
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Episode 148: Developing a Killer Sales Team
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41:18What does it really take to build and lead a high-performing property management sales team? In this candid and highly practical episode, Spencer sits down with Evernest’s Director of Sales, Hunter Terryn, to pull back the curtain on what makes a killer Business Development Manager (BDM). From early-stage training and culture-fit assessments to pla…
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Episode 109: The Secret Every Successful Real Estate Investor Knows
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38:38Welcome back to the relaunch of the Evernest Real Estate Investor Podcast! In this raw, no-fluff conversation, Spencer is joined by new co-host Adam Hobson—a real estate investor who literally sold his truck, his guns, and everything short of the kitchen sink just to stay afloat while chasing financial freedom. In this episode, Adam shares how he s…
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Episode 147: What Separates an Average Business Development Manager (BDM) from a Killer BDM?
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38:35In this episode, Spencer and Matthew pull back the curtain on over a decade of hiring, coaching, and managing salespeople in the property management space. With insights from interviewing hundreds (and hiring over 50!) BDMs, they break down the 8 defining characteristics of top performers—from personality profiles and follow-up discipline to local …
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Episode 108: BONUS RE-RELEASE - Investing Strategy From 20 Year Real Estate Vet, Jonathan Mednick
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47:01Spencer and Gray welcome Jonathan Mednick to the Podcast (originally Episode 32). Jonathan is the co-founder of REI Trader, a Birmingham-based investment company. We cover a lot of ground in this episode covering everything from, Why Jonathan chose Birmingham as his home base for building a 100+ rental portfolio Predictions on the housing market fo…
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Episode 107: BONUS RE-RELEASE - Buying Your First, Second, Third, or Fourth Rental Property? Here's the Process.
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23:16In this episode (originally Episode 51), Spencer and Gray discuss the process of buying your first (or fourth) rental property and what you need to know before you purchase. The four steps they cover include: Setting your target Connect with local market experts Analyze deals and get under contract Due diligence period =============================…
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Episode 146: Selling a PM Company in 2025: What’s Changed and What Hasn’t
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28:30Thinking about selling your property management business? Whether you're looking to retire, reduce stress, or cash out at the right time, this episode breaks down what you need to know about selling in today’s market. Spencer and Matthew take you behind the scenes of Evernest’s acquisition strategy and what they look for, red flags that kill deals,…
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Episode 145: 7 Pitfalls to Avoid When Scaling Your Property Management Company
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30:37After a short hiatus, The Evernest Property Management Show is back with a brand-new studio and a renewed focus on giving you actionable insights to grow your property management business the right way. In this episode, we get into one of the most difficult things ambitious property managers can do: Scaling a property management company while avoid…
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Episode 144: The Evernest Story, Part 6 - Inside Our Latest Acquisitions
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43:03In this bonus episode of the Evernest Property Management Show, we reflect on the ambitious journey from setting a seemingly impossible goal of 25,000 doors to nearly achieving it, with 23,000 doors under management by December 2024. We also reveal our most recent Poplar Homes and Picket acquisitions, the importance of building relationships in a c…
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Episode 143: The Evernest Story, Part 5 - The Plateau
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45:44In this episode of the Evernest Property Management Show, we discuss the company's journey through 2022 and 2023, focusing on the challenges and strategies implemented to optimize the business during a plateau. We dig into the benefits of having great people over processes and discuss our efforts to raise capital, adapt to market disruptions, and r…
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Episode 142: The Evernest Story, Part 4 - Acquisitions, Failure, and Building a Great Team
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35:38In this Evernest Property Management show episode, Spencer Sutton and Matthew Whitaker share challenges they faced and lessons learned from both failure and success. The discussion covers several topics: acquisitions, expanding into new markets like Denver, Atlanta, and Virginia, hiring issues, and staff departures. They also explored the integrati…
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Episode 141: The Evernest Story, Part 3 - People and Acquisitions
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45:04In this episode of The Evernest Property Management Show, Spencer Sutton and Matthew Whitaker continue their journey through Evernest’s history, focusing on the early challenges and lessons learned during their expansion into new markets. From hiring talented people and acquiring businesses in Nashville, Chattanooga, and beyond, to navigating integ…
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Episode 140: The Evernest Story, Part 2 - From 30 Doors to a 25k Vision
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42:08In this episode, Spencer Sutton and Matthew Whitaker continue sharing Evernest's origin story. Picking up where we left off, this episode explores the early days of the Great Financial Crisis, when managing just 30 homes felt overwhelming, and the path forward seemed uncertain. From losing money on real estate deals to discovering the game-changing…
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Episode 139: The Evernest Story, Part 1 - When the Tide Goes Out
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35:28In this episode, Matthew and Spencer take a trip down memory lane, sharing the story of how they met and their journey into the world of real estate. They recount the challenges and triumphs of their early days wholesaling houses, offering a behind-the-scenes look at the fast-paced world of real estate during the market's golden years from 2004 up …
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Episode 138: How to Become Your Client's Most Trusted Real Estate Advisor
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39:00In this episode of the Evernest Property Management Show, Spencer and Matthew are joined by Lior Abramovich, Co-Founder & CEO of Blanket, to tackle one of the biggest challenges in property management: owner churn. Lior introduces Blanket’s innovative platform designed to transform how property managers engage with their clients. Most property owne…
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Episode 137: Building Investor Partnerships: Unlocking Opportunities with LendingOne
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30:34In this episode of the Evernest Property Management Show, host Spencer Sutton interviews Josh Heintz, a former Evernest team member and current Head of Strategic Partnerships at LendingOne. The conversation explores LendingOne's unique services for real estate investors, the value of building partnerships with property managers, and strategies for …
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Episode 136: Scaling Up: Insights from a Growing Property Manager
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27:46Spencer Sutton and Matthew Whitaker host Tommy Perfect of Uplift Property Management on the Evernest Property Management Show. Tommy shares his journey from managing a small property management firm to scaling it significantly in San Diego. Key topics include: Entry into Property Management: This started unexpectedly through a church connection and…
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Episode 135: Trust: The Cornerstone of Team Success
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32:43In this episode of the Evernest Property Management Show, host Spencer Sutton and Matthew Whitaker discuss the vital importance of building trust within a team. They break down trust into three main components: sharing vision and values, caring first and then coaching, and implementing the five love languages in the workplace. Spencer and Matthew s…
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Episode 134: Hard Conversations: How to Handle Employee Terminations
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34:21In this episode of the Evernest Property Management Show, hosts Spencer Sutton and Matthew Whitaker discuss the challenging but necessary topic of terminating employees. They emphasize the importance of recognizing when it's best to let go of team members who either do not align with core values, are poor hires, or have been outgrown by the organiz…
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Growing a property management company can be a challenge. Usually, when a company starts, the owner is the BDM until they realize they need one person focused on landing new clients. In this webinar replay, you'll hear Michael Krause and Mark Ainley, both of whom have been in the BDM seat and have grown their PM companies through unique marketing a…
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Episode 132: The Four Stages of Company Growth - Stage Four Deep Dive
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22:56One of our most downloaded episodes was Episode 57, in which we walked through the four stages of company growth from a high level. In today's episode, we will dive deep into Stage Four: growing from being a great leader to leading other leaders within the company. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evern…
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Episode 131: The Four Stages of Company Growth - Stage Three Deep Dive
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30:11One of our most downloaded episodes was Episode 57, in which we walked through the four stages of company growth from a high level. In today's episode, we will dive deep into Stage Three: growing from being a great manager to a great leader of managers. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co Link:…
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Episode 130: The Four Stages of Company Growth - Stage Two Deep Dive
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27:27One of our most downloaded episodes was Episode 57, in which we walked through the four stages of company growth from a high level. In today's episode, we will dive deep into Stage Two: growing from being a great property manager to a great manager. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co Link: Epi…
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Episode 129: The Four Stages of Company Growth - Stage One Deep Dive
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30:50One of our most downloaded episodes was Episode 57, in which we walked through the four stages of company growth from a high level. In today's episode, we will dive deep into Stage One: being a great property manager. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co Link: Episode 57 - The Four Stages of Com…
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Episode 128: The Art of Growing Through Giving with Mark Ainley
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40:38In this episode, Matthew and Spencer welcome returning guest Mark Ainley of GC Property Management in Chicago. Mark discusses the unique perspective property management offers in real estate investing and how giving comes back to you in life and in business. We talk about creating memorable moments for clients, leveraging knowledge for marketing, a…
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Episode 127: Beyond Transactions: Building Lasting Client Relationships with Jeremy Tallman
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44:14In this episode, Matthew and Spencer welcome Jeremy Tallman, co-founder and CEO of T&H Realty Services in Indianapolis. Jeremy shares his journey from being a real estate investor to managing over 1200 properties, highlighting the importance of building meaningful relationships with clients, residents, and vendors. Jeremy discusses the challenges a…
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Episode 126: The Truth about Property Management: A Candid Talk with Marc Cunningham
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51:25Matthew and Spencer welcome Marc Cunningham of Grace Property Management in Denver, CO to the show. This episode is full of candid discussions about the evolving landscape of property management, with honest opinions on challenges, best practices, legislative impacts, content strategies, and investor dynamics. Don't miss this episode and make sure …
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Episode 125: Navigating Growth and Vision in Property Management: A Deep Dive with Peter Lohmann
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47:41I was fortunate enough to sit down with Peter and get his first-hand account of his journey with RL Property Management. We discussed his month-long summer breaks, growing, and building a supportive community. It's easy to tell that Peter is passionate about his business and our industry. Listen for yourself and discover what has made Peter a sough…
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Episode 124: Breaking Borders: The Untapped Power of International Teams with Gwenn Aspen
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45:39In this episode, Gwenn discusses maximizing efficiency and quality through international team management. And we don't just talk about the positives...we also look into the challenges of incorporating international team members into your property management business. The discussion covers the necessity of clear expectations, salary management, and …
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Episode 123: Just Getting Started? 3 Things I Wish I Had Known
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30:23Do you ever wish you could go back and do some things differently in life? Yes, same here! In this episode, Matthew looks back over 20 years of real estate experience and talks about five pieces of advice he would give his younger self. Tune in and let us know if you would add anything to this list! =================================== Connect with …
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Episode 122: Why Some Property Management Companies Thrive (And Others Don’t)
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32:43Over the years, we have seen inside a lot of property management companies...including our own! And we've seen some great ones as well as some that are struggling to make it. In this episode, Matthew gives five reasons why some property management companies thrive while others don't. The great news is that these are all things that can be implement…
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There are good salespeople and there are 'ok' salespeople....and then there are rockstars. If you want to make the most of your BDM hires, this podcast will discuss the five qualities you should look for to find that rockstar. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co Visit the Podcast Website: Evern…
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Episode 120: How to Hire and Retain A Players
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34:54Why is hiring great people to grow your company so important? In this episode, Spencer and Matthew walk through the four ways to hire A players and then the three ways you can keep them happy and on your team. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co Visit the Podcast Website: Evernest.co/podcasts E…
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If you want more leads, you need more reviews. It's a simple game, but you must be committed. In this episode, Spencer walks you through the different platforms you should pay attention to and then how Evernest has grown their online Google reviews 10X over the past several years. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at…
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Episode 118: What Does Working "ON" Your Business Mean?
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20:22There's a big difference between working "in" your business and working "on" your business. But do you know what the difference is? In this episode, Matthew walks through three aspects of working "on" your business and how, through working on your business, you can achieve your growth goals. =================================== Connect with Matt and…
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Episode 117: The Property Manager Roundtable
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1:17:57These five industry veterans share some of their biggest takeaways after decades of growing property management companies. Listen in to their conversation and you'll walk away with practical things you can implement into your business today. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co Visit the Podcast…
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Episode 116: The Power of EOS for Property Managers
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26:44Every business needs an operating system. And EOS is the one we run here at Evernest. In this episode, Spencer discusses the six main components of EOS and why they're so powerful for your business. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Evernest: Evernest.co Visit the Podcast Website: Evernest.co/podcasts Email the Sh…
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Episode 115: How To Conduct One-to-One Meetings with Your Team
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38:32Conducting one-on-one meetings with your team is one of the most high-value activities you can do. We have found that when we are having one-to-one meetings with our direct reports monthly, their job satisfaction increases as well as their job performance. In this episode, Matthew and Spencer describe exactly how they conduct these meetings with th…
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Episode 114: Webinar Replay - The EOS Life
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51:03EOS (also known as Traction) is not only the operating system we run our business by, but it's also how Matthew evaluates the balance between work and the rest of his life. In this webinar replay, we walk through the steps to creating a better-balanced entrepreneurial path. =================================== Connect with Matt and Spencer at Everne…
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Episode 113: Should You Manage 300 or 3,000 Doors?
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32:41What do most property managers want to know when you meet them for the first time? Besides your name and where you're from, most PMs want to know how many doors you manage! Most property managers assume that the more doors you manage, the better your life is! But we want to dispel the myth and help you think through the possibility that managing fe…
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Episode 112: Acquiring New Clients - Best Practices and Managing Expectations
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32:27Most property managers are expecting to grow in 2024, either through acquisition or organic efforts. And with growth comes expectations from your clients. In this episode, we interview David Soles and discuss the biggest challenges facing a PM as they bring on doors. Tune in to learn from one of our experts on how to handle big client growth! =====…
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