Turns out there was more say about acts of caring. From changing wet shirts to loaning out favorite shoes, we have many opportunities to give children care. We may not be able to meet 100% of children’s needs, but we need to be reliable. Mike points out the important thing: finding your favorite napkin may seem like a small thing, but it’s not triv…

Children’s comments from teacher appreciation week make Joey reflect on what really matters to the children in our care. Our bandaids and crackers let children know that they are safe and we will help if they get hurt or sick. Mike recalls children's questions of "why don't we learn anything at this school?" Care is something we don't talk about a …

Mike encourages us to pay attention, match children's physical actions and use fewer words. He has found this approach to be especially supportive of children who tend to be very quiet and those who are loud and boisterous. It might require us to slow down a little, which can feel hard in the midst of a busy day. Ross reminds us that it's OK becaus…

While we're out on our bicycles celebrating spring, we hope you enjoy this conversation. We'll be back with fresh episodes next week. Mike shares a video of the "backwards bike," (watch here) an excellent example of embodied knowledge. You can explain it, but you can't do it until you can feel it. How many experiences do young children have like th…

Tom's been wrestling with the idea of beauty in the classroom. Does it mean markers aligned in rainbow order? Cardboard boxes and duct tape in the sensory table? Is beauty stagnant or dynamic?

How do we read children’s energy? How do we respond in ways that don't interrupt the flow of child led play? Tom recalls joining in to rough and tumble play to help children regulate. Mike's first instinct is also to join in and help "course correct" if needed. Ross acknowledges the influence of the adult's energy level and the context of prior exp…

Ross starts to unpack his ideas about ways that play has changed--for children and for teachers. What is the inlfuence of technology? What is the impact of our own play history? There is a subtle worry that children are missing out on experiences in the world and in their own imaginations.

Mike shares a glimpse of his new book as he leads a discussion about pretend play. There's something magical about the way children embody their ideas to express themselves and communicate with others. We don't always give children enough credit for the complexity they bring to pretending, from coordinating their movements and vocalizations to expr…

It's spring break season. While we're away, we hope you enjoy this encore episode that pairs nicely with last week's conversation about safetyism. Tom invites discussion of the anti-phobic powers of children's risky play. Spoiler alert: adults--and their fears--often get in the way, but there is hope that we can rise above our own phobias and creat…

Joey is wrestling with the concept of safetyism and its influence on early childhood practices, including her own. What's on the other end of the continuum? To place it at the opposite end from risky play doesn't feel right because much of what gets shut down in the name of safetyism is just play. Tom notes that safetyism can erode trust and lead t…

In a follow up to our discussion about unintended challenges, Mike shares research about how children create their own peer culture through unintended use of physical objects. When children observe and follow unwritten physical rules, such as hanging brooms from a basketball hoop, they can be successful at joining into social play. (Thank you to Aa…

Tom presents descriptions of attunement for discussion. We find surprising parallels between being a teacher in an early childhood classroom and being an indigenous hunter. Both require paying close attention to the environment and sensory experiences. Mike and Ross talk tuning forks and guitar strings. Like tuning instruments, attunement to childr…

Ross invites us to reflect on our double standards. Do we raise our voices while asking children not to yell? Sing calm down songs in a tense voice? Are there things that adults are allowed to do, but against the rules for children? When we act with intention, we can do what we say. Mike likes to draw children's block buildings. Joey joins in conve…

There's a lot to unpack in children's small world play: security, control, power, and focus. So get out your dollhouses, figurines, and tiny capes. When we offer children the chance to scale down their play, the world can become so much bigger.

Tom leads a conversation about children using things in unintended ways, such as climbing playground shade canopies, piling portable steps into rickety piles, and using drumsticks to fill holes. Mike sees a difference in our perception of what's intended and acceptable use of manufactured materials vs. natural materials. Joey wonders if creativity …

Ross addresses a listener question, "what is it with four year old boys?" Why is this group of children most likely to be kicked out of child care and identified by teachers as being challenging? Mike shares research about developmental shifts, bell curves, and hormone levels. If the "problem" is actually a result of typical development, perhaps we…

Mike kicks off a conversation about how physical games like rough and tumble play or hide and seek provide entry points to social connection--especially for children who don't share a common language. With each example shared, it becomes more and more evident that the body has a language of its own. Children are fluent in this language and much mor…

Joey's recent experiences with her students playing hide and seek triggers happy memories amoung the group of playing Russian Piglets, Ghost in the Graveyard and Bloody Murder. Playing with the idea of disappearance and separation can provide just the right amount of feeling scared, brave and in control.…

In a continuation of last week's conversation, there's more to discuss around empathy and perspective taking. What does it feel like to know that others perceive you as the "bad" kid? What narratives support children's flawed perspective about other people and how adults help to expand their thinking? The group gets into some thorny issues that con…

Perspective taking and empathy are skills that often get lumped together in talking about children's development. Mike argues that they develop separately but often work together. Ross reminds us that babies (who lack perspective taking abilities) show care towards others. Joey wonders how to apply Mike's idea to recent puppy paw conflict in the cl…

The time is here to share our "Snow!" episode. Tom wants to talk about beautiful, wonderful snow. Children love snow and the myriad opportunities it brings. Adults need to keep their snow-related hassles to themselves and let children have the joy. The discussion includes some practical tips for sledding with young children. (Originally recorded in…

Just for fun, some suggestions for musical pairings that fit the themes of our conversations.

Tom leads a follow up conversation about creating conditions for flow in the classroom. Mike draws on his days as a drummer to highlight the needs of shared understanding among players and repeated experiences with materials to build mastery. But where is the tipping point between mastery and boredom? Ross introduces the hotplate theory of creativi…

Tom reflects on whether children achieve flow states in their play. According to a recent article--that, of course, Tom read--flow occurs when someone has expertise that allows them to release conscious control and go on autopilot. Do children have the expertise required to create flow? Mike argues that children achieve flow in play, which is their…

As a follow up to recent talks about energy levels, Ross invites us to look at the collective energy created by groups of children. It's hard to pinpoint the source of this energy and what makes it shift. Things can quickly turn from joyful noise to chaos. What is the impact of timing, friendships or tensions within the group? Mike cites a perfect …

Mike leads a discussion about environments that support children when they are upset. Some children will need "caves" while others need "treehouses." Tom observes that children can also create their own spaces for regulation within the classroom. Ross wonders, can you have a treehouse in a cave?

Do children have the right to relax? How do we set the atmosphere to allow for relaxation? Does it work when we tell children, "I need you to relax"? Maybe we all need to learn how to play the ukele so we have something to do while children play.

A garden gleaning results in thrilling play experiences in Joey's classroom. If squash and potatoes can be this exciting, what other ways can we include real experiences for children? Tom recalls logs and leaves in the sensory table and Mike shares a story of a piano in the play yard. Ross reminds us that offering real tools and authentic materials…

Get ready to feel smart as Tom teaches us the science behind cute aggression. How does the urge to squeeze something cute help us stay regulated? Mike is reminded of favorite books that depict this dimorphous emotion--from the Where the Wild Things Are to More, More, More Said the Baby. Mike and Ross show off their brain chemistry knowledge. Perhap…

Depsite our goal to create communities where everyone helps, sometimes offers of help can create conflict in the classrrom. Ross shares a recent example during block clean up. Mike has seen "help" with puzzle assembly lead to similar conflicts. Thinking of ways that we do (and don't) like to receive help in our own work can give some insights. Joey…

Mike taps into his knowledge of Latin for a conversation about emotion, which at the root means "moving out." What do we do when emotions move children in the classroom? We can take on the role of "inner voice" and guide childrens' responses to their feelings. Sometimes words get in the way and the thing to do is give time and space for feelings. W…

In the final installment of the conversation with That Early Childhood Nerd, talk turns to care at the center of teaching practice. We are working to build communities that show care for one another--teachers and children. The hope is that our work inspires people waiting on airport lines at some future time--they will be kind and helpful! Ross sea…

The conversation with Heather Bernt-Santy from That Early Childhood Nerd picks up from last time. The group reminisces acout learning from Tom's classic video clips before returning to the topic of honoring childhood. How do we honor the child who is not like everyone else? Where do nurture and care fit in when we are often so focused on teaching a…

That Early Childhood Nerd (aka Heather Bernt-Santy) takes over the discussion. She kicks things off with a Raffi quote that leads to a conversation of how adults so easily forget what it's like to be a child who needs to move. Tom talks about how he and Mike first met. Heather shares a pet peeve, and we reflect on what different lenses see in terms…

Children often enact "tiny beautiful celebrations" where they express joy by hugging and piling up together. Tom has even noticed adults doing the same thing when they celebrate a sporting win. Big emotions elicit big movements. We see it every day in our classrooms as children create these joyous piles.…

It's back to school season! Travel back in time to 2020 (still too soon?), when distance learning was a new invention and we were trying to make sense of it all. While school is more or less back to normal, the questions are still worth asking. Ross wants to talk paradigm shift. What lessons will we learn from the current disruption to our educatio…

For our 300th episode celebration, we answer listener questions (and a few of our own). Learn about Mike practicing magic on his baby sister, Tom's three years in Hungary, Joey's run-ins with head lice, and Ross's dreams of being a professional skateboarder.

Tom invites us to take a closer look at what we mean when we talk broadly about "development." Developmental expectations can easily transform into standards of performance. What is the impact on the individual child? Are we trying to make all kids the same?

The trouble is that kids get in trouble for moving. Perhaps the problem comes from us due to poorly designed spaces and unreasonable expectations.

At the top of a steep and slippery hill, Joey had the chance to reflect on how children know what they need even if they can't always say it. When you provide opportunties to do what they need, they will show you how capable they are. It all makes Mike think of Ernest Hemingway.

Mike invites the group to shares stories from the classroom when things did not go to plan. Listen to find out more about preschool runaways, decapitated bears, and gathering coins to buy "whiskey."

With summer in full swing, Joey wants to talk aboout children's foraging for berries and other tasty things. When we trust children's ability to meet their self-care needs in foraging, we can see how capable and competent they are. It's a whole body and mind practice as children rely on their executive function skills and experience immersive senso…

Tom had some time to catch up on his reading while he was away. He's back and ready to talk about spinning and the importance of vestibular development. Children find all kinds of ways to spin, such as twirling, rolling, somersaulting, and doing cartwheels. All this spinning is essential to developing the vesitibular system and--the hardest task of…

Children need to run. It's a way for them to express joy and excitement, feel powerful, tap into energy, and explore their environment. Since children need to run--and love to run--adults should want them to run. How can we provide for this basic need and source of joy for children? (Originally released April 2022)…

Joey returns to Ross's favorite theme of disappointment, failure, and the illusion of perfection. If children are always told that they are correct, then everyone else must be wrong. The implications are not great in a world where everyone makes mistakes.

Sometimes children are overwhelmed by choices and may struggle to get going in very open-ended, play based settings. What is the adult's role? Mike sees adults as the bridge to engagement. This bridge can lead to a highway where children need help navigating the on ramp to play. From there, children need to learn the rules of the road. We promise, …

Ross wants to talk about navigating transitions. As the school year comes to a close, we often notice a ramp up in children's (and adults') level of dysregulation. How do we support children and teach the skills for managing the many inevitable changes of life? We talk about what is staying the same alongside what will be different...we practice ri…

While we're on a brief recording break, enjoy this episode from the archive: Inspired by Stephen J. Smith from his book Risk and Our Pedagogical Relation to Children, Tom asks the group to consider the idea of silently observing children's movements as "reading their actions as they're being written." What more would we learn about children if we w…

Mike leads us into a discussion about the importance of connection. Social connection is how children get through the hard things...Connections build resilience...Children are always looking for connection...All play is social and all learning is social...We're wired to learn from the group so why is assessment still tied to individual achievements…

Joey wants to talk about the idea of emotional strength. How do we support children in building inner strength without making assumptions about what they can handle? Mike reminds us that stress--in the right amount--supports growth. Tom shares the experiences of listening to children and being an advocate for their feelings. We need to watch out fo…