Rock That Doesn’t Roll looks at how Christian music shaped the world we're living in now by telling individual stories from the peak era of the contemporary Christian music industry. In the 80s, 90s and early 2000s CCM grew into a billion dollar business that affected millions of evangelical young people. Through interviews with artists, industry players and average fans Dr. Leah Payne and Andrew Gill trace the long-lasting personal, cultural and political impact of sometimes cringe-worthy m ...
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Weird Religion is a podcast for people who think religion is weird but love it anyway. Your hosts, Leah Payne and Brian Doak, are both professors, authors, and pop culture aficionados, whose interests range from archaeology and history and linguistics to LARPing and The Walking Dead. Episodes tackle some piece of media highlighting the wonderful weirdness of religious experience—a documentary, a television show, a Twitter scandal—and use that as a "thread" on which to hang reflections on a w ...
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Conversing with Mark Labberton invites listeners into transformative encounters with leaders and creators shaping our world at the intersection of Christian faith, culture, and public life.
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Matt and Davey, along with a rotating cast of guests, explore what success and failure looks like in the music industry through the lens of their band Eleventyseven.
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An Educated Life podcast is about the extraordinary world of higher education. We talk about life outside the classroom, the beautiful lessons we can learn from each other, and the pursuit of academic and vocational passion. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/aneducatedlife/support
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The Conference on Faith and History hosts a monthly virtual coffee. Those conversations are available as a podcast afterwards for the entire audience of those who follow our organization.
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Crawlspace is where crime meets culture. We host interesting conversations about unsolved murders, serial killers, cold cases and paranormal activity. We go beyond entertainment as we dig deeper to tell stories of crimes, vanished people, and injustices. Our guests include survivors, authors, journalists, podcasters, advocates, and educators. Starting in 2017 with a deep dive into the disappearance of Brianna Maitland, Crawlspace is hosted by Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna of the Missing Ma ...
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The goal of the psych health and safety podcast is to rapidly advance the practice of psychological health and safety in companies worldwide. Featuring a guest each episode from the fields of health and safety, psychology and academia who are leading the way in their corner of the globe. Hosts: Jason van Schie (AU), Joelle Mitchell (AU), Peter Kelly (UK), Kate Field (UK), Kim MacDonald (CA), Ian Lewis (CA) and Erin O'Byrne (CA)
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The Church of the Future, with Kara Powell and Raymond Chang
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56:05Are the best days of the Church behind us? Or ahead? Kara Powell and Ray Chang join Mark Labberton to discuss Future-Focused Church: Reimagining Ministry to the Next Generation, co-authored with Jake Mulder. Drawing on extensive research, practical frameworks, and decades of leadership at Fuller Seminary and the 10x10 Collaboration, Powell and Chan…
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540 // Serial Killer Profiler Phil Chalmers on Speaking Truth To Evil
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1:14:59Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with author and serial killer profiler Phil Chalmers about his new book, Speaking Truth to Evil, and much more. Check out Phil's site: https://www.philchalmers.com/. Get Phil's book: https://wildbluepress.com/speaking-truth-to-evil-true-crime-phil-chalmers/. Amazon…
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539 // New England Serial Killer Update / Sunshine Stewart Homicide
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27:49Welcome to Crawlspace & Missing. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna provide a grim update to the rumored active New England Serial Killer. The latest body found was that of 48 year old Sunshine Stewart. Sunshine was a sailing captain, a marine biologist, lobsterman, and passionate nature lover. On July 2nd, her body was found on 1…
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Giving Up Your Band For God (ft. Josh Caterer of Smoking Popes)
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52:38In 1998 it seemed like Josh Caterer had it made. His band, Smoking Popes, had three critically acclaimed albums out. They were signed to Capitol Records. He had married his high school sweetheart. But Josh had also just become a Christian and couldn't reconcile his rock band life with his new evangelical life. So he quit the band. On today's episod…
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538 // Fiction in True Crime w/Megan Abbott
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59:11Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, the great writer, Megan Abbott. Megan is prolific in her field with her primary focus on true crime stories. Although her books are fiction, the plot-lines are well-researched and based on actual cases. Her newest book, El Dorado Drive …
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Gospel Music Genius, with Stephen Newby and Robert Darden
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47:52With a B3 organ, a prophetic imagination, and a heart broken wide open by grace, gospel music legend Andraé Crouch (1942–2015) left an indelible mark on modern Christian worship music. In this episode, Stephen Newby and Robert Darden offer a sweeping yet intimate exploration of his life, spiritual vision, and genre-defining genius. Together with Ma…
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PHSCON 2025 Conference Recap with Liz Payne - Psych Health and Safety Conference Highlights, Insights & Key Takeaways
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1:05:17In this episode, hosts Jason and Joelle chat with Liz Payne, Chair of the ACT/NSW College of Organisational Psychologists, and returning chair of the Psych Health and Safety Conference (PHSCON 2025).During this conversation, Liz, Joelle and Jason recap highlights from the PHSCON 2025. This included going over the live podcast recordings with Rob Br…
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537 // Death & Lovejoy w/Bess Lovejoy
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1:06:39Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by another new friend of the show, the wonderful Bess Lovejoy. Bess is a journalist and an author with a primary focus on all things macabre. The discussion contains fascinating topics like graveyard etiquette and the remarkable fates of the corpses of famous peo…
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In this episode Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna discuss the mysterious disappearance of Evelyn Grace Hartley from La Crosse, Wisconsin on October 24th, 1953. Evelyn was babysitting nearby when she was seemingly abducted from a home. Signs of a struggle were seen in the living room, her sneaker was found at the bottom of the basement stairs, and b…
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In mid-June NPR published a story with the headline "Christian music is experiencing a pop breakthrough." As podcasters covering the Christian music industry, we usually think it reached it's zenith of popularity in the early 2000s, so this article caught our attention. To dig deeper into the topic, we invited the article's author, Emma Madden, on …
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535 // The Devil Wears Rothko w/ Barry Avrich
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1:15:55In this episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with author and filmmaker Barry Avrich about his new book The Devil Wears Rothko about an intense forgery scheme involving priceless art. Get the book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Devil-Wears-Rothko/Barry-Avrich/9798888454527. https://www.amazon.com/Devil-Wears-Rothko-I…
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Walking and Spirituality, with Cherie Harder
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56:46During a moment of historic turbulence and Christian polarization, Trinity Forum president Cherie Harder stepped away from the political and spiritual vortex of Washington, DC, for a month-long pilgrimage on the Camino de Santiago—a.k.a. “the Camino” or “the Way.” In this episode, she reflects on the spiritual, emotional, and physical rhythms of pi…
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534 // Sister Saint or Sister Sinner w/ Claire Hoffman
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1:04:57Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, a great journalist and author, Claire Hoffman. In this conversation, Claire examines and life and potential crimes of the larger than life self-made evangelist and media phenom, Sister Aimee Semple McPherson. To get a copy of Claire's b…
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This week on the show it's legends only: Russ Taff and Steve Taylor. They collaborated on Russ' new album, "Cover Story," but both have long and distinctive careers in the Christian music industry. Russ Taff became lead singer of The Imperials in 1976, started his solo career in 1983, earning two Grammys and many Dove awards. He was one of the indu…
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533 // The Legend of Lizzy Borden w/ Christopher Daley
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1:10:31Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined again by the outstanding historian, lecturer, academic, writer and master storyteller, Mr. Christopher Daley. Chris joined the show earlier in the year to examine the life and times of New England's first serial killer, Franklin Evans. In this conversation, Chris…
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Bonhoeffer’s Black Jesus, with Reggie Williams
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48:54For Christians, morality is often set by our interpretation of Jesus. In this episode, Reggie Williams reflects on the moral urgency of resistance in the face of rising nationalisms and systemic racial injustice that persists. Reggie Williams is associate professor of black theology at Saint Louis University, and author of Bonhoeffer’s Black Jesus.…
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532 // Missing Brianna Maitland - New Witnesses Come Forward
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1:02:34In this episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with private investigators Greg Overacker and Lou Barry to discuss some new witness accounts in Brianna Maitland's disappearance. This conversation with Greg and Lou was recorded during the 6/11/25 live virtual fundraiser for Private Investigations For the Missing. If you have any informati…
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Workplace Burnout in 2025 - with John Chan
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51:48In this episode, hosts Jason and Joelle chat with returning guest Dr John Chan, managing director of Infinite Potential. John joins us to discuss the latest iteration of his annual publication, The State of Workplace Burnout. He shares what's similar and what's different to previous year's findings, and the main trends emerging in 2025.https://infi…
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531 // The Voynich Enigma w/ Jillian Foley
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1:00:16Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by a new friend of the show, the great Jillian Foley. Jillian is a "writer and historian of technology, studying things like cryptography, computers, and mathematics, and all the weird shit humans do with it all." She holds a PhD from the University of Chicago in…
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Accountability for Michael Tait (DC Talk, Newsboys) and Sean Feucht (ft. Kelsey Kramer McGinnis)
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1:16:05Michael Tait, most recently lead singer of The Newsboys and also well known as one third of DC Talk, confessed to accusations of sexual assault and drug abuse on June 10, 2025. This came after deeply reported investigations into his behavior were published first by The Roys Report and then by The Guardian. The day before this news broke, whistleblo…
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530 // Fear And Living In New England w/Prof. David Perlmutter
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1:04:11Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna once again try to understand the dark fascination people have with the possibility of a serial killer operating in New England. They are joined by Prof. David Perlmutter of Texas Tech University. Dr. Perlmutter is the professor of Media and Communications and he shares his …
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Global Displacement and Refugee Crisis, with Myal Greene
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49:08“More of the church is committed to their immigrant neighbours than the media or politicians would like the public to believe.” (Myal Green, from the episode) Myal Greene (president and CEO of World Relief) joins host Mark Labberton to discuss the global humanitarian crises, refugee resettlement, and the church’s responsibility to respond with cour…
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529 // The Murder of Joseph Gatto w/ Mike Gatto
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1:09:04Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, Mike Gatto. Mr. Gatto is a lifelong politician, reaching extraordinary heights in the California arena. In November of 2013, his father Joseph was found murdered. A single gunshot wound to his abdomen cuts his new life as a successful a…
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Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna speak with old friend Mike Morford about his investigation into the identity of the Zodiac killer. Morf has an extensive history of covering the Zodiac case, including having written a book on it: https://www.amazon.com/Case-Zodiac-Killer-Photographs-Criminology/dp/19472905…
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How to Make Difficult Decisions, with Angela Williams Gorrell
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49:10What do you do when you don’t know what to do? Angela Williams Gorrell joins Mark Labberton to discuss her latest book, Braving Difficult Decisions. With poignant storytelling and theological depth, Gorrell shares how this book was born out of personal crucibles and a yearning to make sense of liminal, paralyzing spaces we all encounter—individuall…
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Can Humour Create Psychological Safety? with Jason Rawding
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1:06:11In this episode, hosts Jason and Joelle chat with Jason Rawding, founder of MyBeast. Jason shares the different ways that humour can be used in workplaces to create or enhance psychological safety. He talks about different types of humour and the elements that contribute to humour, and emphasises that humour is a skill that can be developed and ref…
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527 // Elizabeth Short, The Black Dahlia
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1:01:32Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna speak with playwright and actress Marissa Alaniz about Elizabeth Short (also known as The Black Dahlia), her murder, and Marissa's play called "Elizabeth". Check out Marissa's work at marissaalaniz.com. Follow Marissa on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/malanizofficial.…
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526 // The Man Who Outgrew Robbing Banks w/ Joe Loya
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1:07:56Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend, Joe Loya. Mr. Loya is an author (The Man Who Outgrew His Prison Cell), Hollywood consultant (Baby Driver), prolific bank robber and ex-convict. He is the subject of Orbit Media's podcast series, The Burden - Get The Money and Run. Joe recalls his c…
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Mental Health and the Church, with Mark Eastburg
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1:05:19Mental, emotional, and spiritual healing requires more than clinical technique—it demands sacrificial empathy, institutional trust, and a profound affirmation of the image of God in every human being. In this episode, clinical psychologist and Pine Rest CEO Mark Eastburg joins Mark Labberton to discuss the rising need for mental health care—especia…
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525 // America's First Serial Killer w/ Christopher Daley
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1:00:54Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna are joined by a new friend of the show, Mr. Christopher Daley. Christopher is a historian, public speaker, author and educator. The conversation is about America's first serial killer, not HH Holmes as most people believe. This individual's name is Franklin Evans. Evans c…
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524 // The Prison Break of Leroy Chasson w/ Daniel Zimmerman
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1:02:24Welcome to Crawlspace. In this new episode, Tim Pilleri & Lance Reenstierna are joined by new friend of the show, Mr. Daniel Zimmerman. On Sept. 6th, 1982, Leroy Chasson escaped from Walpole Prison in Massachusetts, one the most violent and notorious prisons in the country. With his wife masquerading as a nurse and brandishing a .45 automatic pisto…
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Pentecostal Political Power: The New Apostolic Reformation, with Leah Payne and Caleb Maskell
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1:01:12What is the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)? And what does it have to do with conservative political power in the United States and abroad? Leah Payne and Caleb Maskell join Mark Labberton for a deep dive into the emergence and impact of the New Apostolic Reformation—a loosely affiliated global network blending Pentecostal Christian spirituality, c…
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Exploring the Cobar Enforceable Undertaking - with Sandra Lam
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47:50In this episode, hosts Jason and Joelle chat with returning guest Sandra Lam, Organisational Psychologist and Managing Director at FIFO Focus. We chat about a recently published WHS Undertaking between Cobar Management and the NSW Department of Primary Industries and Regional Development. Sandra shares her views on the remedial measures outlined in…
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523 // NESK - Brainscratch Collab - Is There a New England Serial Killer?
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1:48:23In this new episode Tim Pilleri, Lance Reenstierna, and Mike Morford speak on John Lordan's Brainscratch Youtube show about the possibilities of a new and active serial killer in New England. Check out this episode on John Lordan's LordanArts channel: https://youtu.be/YyXvnuLC7Po. Follow John Lordan's work: https://linktr.ee/lordanarts. Follow …
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