PropTech Pulse is a dynamic 20-minute podcast that takes the pulse of real estate technology, bringing you insights directly from industry innovators, leaders, and disruptors. From the entrepreneur's desk to the industry front lines and into real-world operations, hosts Aaron Kardell, Kyle Hunter, and Jake Hamilton deliver focused conversations that cut through the noise. Who Should Listen Real estate professionals seeking to stay ahead of technology trends Brokers and team leaders looking f ...
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Greg Robertson, co-founder of W+R Studios and publisher of Vendor Alley, talks real estate tech with the people who are shaping it.
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In this episode of Listing Bits, Greg Robertson sits down with Ben Kinney, CEO and co-founder of Place, to talk about Place’s acquisition of Remine, how Ben built his PropTech empire from the ground up, and what’s next for the platform. Ben shares his personal journey from growing up in rural Washington to building a half-billion-dollar business, a…
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🎙️ Listing Bits Episode: The Amazing Annie Ives Host: Greg Robertson Guest: Annie Ives, CEO of The MLS™ / VestaPlus Duration: ~40 min 👋 Episode Summary: In this episode, Greg sits down with Annie Ives, a true titan in the world of organized real estate. From her early days immigrating from Tunisia to building and reviving one of the most resilient …
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The Evolution and Future of MLS with Greg Robertson
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22:54PropTech Pulse Podcast: The Evolution and Future of MLS with Greg Robertson Episode Summary In this insightful episode of PropTech Pulse, host Kyle Hunter welcomes Greg Robertson, a 30-year veteran of real estate technology. Robertson, who founded his first real estate software company in 1992 and most recently sold W&R Studios (creators of Cloud C…
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The Future of MLS Technology with Jeremy Crawford
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23:51Episode Summary In this forward-looking episode of PropTech Pulse, host Jake Hamilton sits down with Jeremy Crawford, President and CEO of FirstMLS (FMLS) in Georgia, alongside Lisa Mihelcich, Lone Wolf's General Manager of MLS and Associations. The conversation centers on the newly announced partnership bringing Transaction Desk and Transact to FM…
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Brian Donnellan and the future of cooperation
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52:00🎙️ Listing Bits: Brian Donnellan, CEO of Bright MLS Host: Greg Robertson Guest: Brian Donnellan, CEO of Bright MLS Episode Summary: Greg sits down with Bright MLS CEO Brian Donnellan for a candid conversation about leadership, music, and the shifting dynamics in real estate. They dive into design, the Clear Cooperation Policy, Wall Street’s influen…
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PropTech Pulse: Building a Scalable Tech Stack with Stacie Staub
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17:51🎙️ Episode Description: Join us for an insightful conversation with Stacie Staub, CEO and co-founder of West of Main Homes, as she shares her journey of growing a 500-agent brokerage through smart technology choices and consistent implementation. ⏱️ Timeline: 00:00 - Introduction and background 00:50 - Current tech challenges in real estate 02:16 -…
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PropTech Pulse Podcast: Innovating Real Estate Relationships Through Technology with Kendall Bonner
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18:06In this impactful episode of PropTech Pulse, host Aaron Kardell welcomes Kendall Bonner, VP of Industry Relations and Strategic Partnerships at eXp Realty. A licensed attorney, former broker-owner, successful team leader, and recognized industry influencer, Bonner shares her expertise on leveraging technology to enhance client relationships while m…
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In this episode of Listing Bits, Greg Robertson is joined by Megan McFarlane from New Mexico MLS and Jeff Allen from CubiCasa to discuss the growing importance of floor plans in real estate listings. They dive into why New Mexico MLS has taken the bold step of requiring floor plans on every listing, how technology like CubiCasa is making this easie…
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PropTech Pulse Podcast: Beyond the Logo - The Science of Real Estate Branding with Marc Davison
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23:28Episode Summary In this insightful episode of PropTech Pulse, hosted by Jake Hamilton, welcomes Marc Davison, co-founder of 1000watt and a 25-year veteran of the real estate industry. Davison shares his expert perspective on the science of branding in real estate, distinguishing between true branding and simple marketing tactics. The conversation e…
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Building Real Estate Technology: The Story of Real Geeks with Kevin McCarthy
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54:26Episode Summary: In this episode, Greg Robertson talks with Kevin McCarthy, co-founder and CEO of Real Geeks, about his journey from a small-town tech enthusiast to creating a leading real estate technology company. Kevin shares insights into Real Geeks’ origins, its evolution, and how its all-in-one platform empowers real estate agents. The conver…
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Listing Bits Podcast: The Front-endless MLS System with Carlos Grass and Paul Hethmon of Amplify
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46:50Overview: Greg Robertson sits down with Carlos Grass and Paul Hethmon, co-founders of Amplify, to discuss their innovative “front-endless” MLS backend platform. This episode highlights Amplify’s unique approach to creating a flexible, adaptable MLS backend designed to empower MLSs with greater control and cutting-edge technology. Key Takeaways: 1. …
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Listing Bits Podcast: Austin Allison, CEO of Pacaso
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1:05:08Overview: In this episode, Greg Robertson chats with Austin Allison, CEO of Pacaso, about his entrepreneurial journey in real estate, starting with Dotloop and transitioning to his current venture, Pacaso. The discussion covers lessons learned from his early career, how Pacaso is revolutionizing second home ownership, and insights into raising capi…
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A working agent’s perspective on the current state of organized real estate- Maggie Etheridge, REALTOR.
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1:04:54I sat down with a long-time friend and former business partner, Maggie Etheridge. Maggie was one of my co-founders at IRIS, a real estate software company we started back in 1992. She is a second-generation real estate agent. Maggie’s mom, Martie, was the inspiration for starting a software company focused on real estate and is likely the reason I …
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Real estate data, myths and cowboy boots with Kevin Shtofman of Cherre
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43:25Listing Bits is back with a great guest, Kevin Shtofman, Global Head of Innovation at Cherre. Cherre is a global real estate data management platform. Kevin is from Texas and comes from a very entrepreneurial family that owned retail stores selling western wear, including honest-to-goodness cowboy boots! Yee-haw! Kevin talks about his journey from …
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Dan Fortin of Lone Wolf Technologies on designing a proper Foundation
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43:25Dan Fortin was one of my favorite people I met working at Lone Wolf. He came over from the Instanet acquisition and has had a front-row seat to see big changes in the industry. From Lone Wolf acquiring 8 companies, 5 of them in less than 9 months, to the challenges of being a forms company during COVID when everyone wanted a specific form, and they…
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Listing Bits Episode 91: Tether RE, keeping Agents Safe
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45:36What do Willie Nelson and keeping real estate agents safe have in common? You will have to listen to this great conversation with Tether RE founder Scott Martin to find out. Did you know that in 2020 60,000 real estate agents reported being victims of assault, sexual abuse, robbery or were murdered in the US? In 2023 over 75,000 real estate agents …
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Listing Bits Episode 90: Upgrading Client Engagement with HŌM
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51:42I hope you enjoy this great conversation with the co-founders of HŌM, Jeff Zakrzewski and Nhan Vo. In a wide ranging conversation we discuss their orgin story. Where they came up for the idea of their app and the struggles of going to market with a real estate software solution. If you are new vendor getting in to the space, an MLS exec, or franchi…
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Listing Bits Episode 89: Kelly Robinson, an MLS pioneer comes back for more
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52:07"Hotel California", is one of the phrases people attribute to the organized real estate industry, "you can can check-out any time you like, but you can never leave". Kelly Robinson is an industry pioneer in that she co-founded a software company, Realty Plus Online, that created one of the first web-based MLS systems. In my conversation with Kelly …
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Listing Bits Episode 88: Does NAR Have Value Beyond MLS Access? – with Michael Lissack of The Virtual Realty Group
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42:05The verdict against NAR in the Sitzer lawsuit has organized real estate up in arms. But Michael Lissack thinks the decision is the best thing to happen to the industry in 100 years. In fact, he sees the trade association as a criminal enterprise with little value beyond MLS access. Michael is Managing Broker for The Virtual Realty Group, a 100% com…
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Listing Bits Episode 87: Ben Graboske’s Big Bet
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41:27In 2020 Ben knew they needed to make a change. So he went to the Black Knight board and made a pitch, “give me the resources to build a modern MLS system”. To his surprise, they said yes. Now, 3 years later, that dream has been realized. His dream was a mobile-first MLS platform that understands the history of how MLS platforms operate but offers a…
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Listing Bits Episode 85: A Less, But Better Approach to Real Estate Software Design – with Damien Huze of Lone Wolf Technologies
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56:33Listing Bits EP085: A Less, But Better Approach to Real Estate Software Design – with Damien Huze of Lone Wolf Technologies Among Dieter Rams’ Ten Principles of Design is the idea that good design is as little design as possible. Less, but better. And Damien Huze believes that the next evolution of real estate software will apply this concept, offe…
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Listing Bits Episode 86: A Deal Tracker Built for Agents – with Vijay Gopalswamy of Trackxi
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39:53In 2021, Vijay Gopalswamy’s real estate business was growing like gangbusters. And at one point, he had 32 active transactions. Which meant Vijay was spending every morning with his team, going over each transaction and asking, ‘Did you send this? Did you follow up with that? Did this contract get signed?’ But when he looked at the “transaction man…
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Listing Bits Episode 83: Revolutionizing Member Engagement for MLSs + Associations – with Nick Gough of NoteRouter
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44:11MLSs and associations face an issue Nick Gough refers to as RDR, an acronym for REALTORS don’t read. So, what can these organizations do to communicate more effectively with the members they serve? Nick is Founder and CEO at NoteRouter, the all-in-one email and texting platform designed to help organized real estate achieve record-high member engag…
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Listing Bits EP82 - Jeremy Henley of QuikFix
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Listing Bits EP081: Building Proptech for Real Estate Teams – with Brian Charlesworth of Sisu
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52:29Teams are the future of real estate. And one proptech vendor is capitalizing on this trend by helping team leaders run an effective business. What’s more, most of the teams on his platform double their business every year—even in the current market. Brian Charlesworth is Founder and CEO of Sisu, an end-to-end real estate platform for teams that str…
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Listing Bits EP080: Does ‘Your Listing, Your Lead’ Jive with IDX Attribution Policy? – with Michael Wurzer, Greg Fischer & Andy Woolley
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44:01Two years ago, NAR policy was updated to give brokers and agents attribution rights, meaning they get to decide how they appear in listings. But Homes.com employs a ‘your listing, your lead’ model, displaying the listing agent’s contact information. So, does this comply with NAR’s attribution policy? And what else do we need to think about as compa…
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Listing Bits Podcast: Elevating Women in Real Estate – with Lauren Martin of RentSpree
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43:51Lauren Martin began her career in the fashion industry to be among powerful women. But when she transitioned to proptech, she realized that real estate is the true pinnacle of girl power. And yet, women are not always represented in leadership. So, when she landed her current role as Senior Account Director of Partnerships at RentSpree, Lauren appr…
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LIsting Bits Podcast: Pooling Resources & Expertise Among MLSs – with Betsy Hanson of Markt
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46:18From a vendor’s perspective, small MLSs are the most challenging to work with. And that’s no surprise, seeing as how they have fewer resources than the big players in the space. So, how do we support MLSs with fewer than 400 members in keeping up with NAR rules, for example? Is there a way MLSs might share marketing, support and compliance services…
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Listing Bits Episode 77: Using Showing Data to Guide Decision making with Wes Hartman of Showingly
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47:27Most showing management software aggregates data. But how useful is it to get a report at the end of the month? What if the data was presented in a way that helped agents answer seller questions in real time and make informed choices based on the numbers? Wes Hartman is CEO of Showingly, a showing management solution that uses data and analytics to…
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Turn Your Clients into Lifelong Fans – with Rivers Pearce of Milestones
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49:22A solid fan base is what makes a rock band successful, and it’s no different for real estate professionals. But most of us focus on the individual transaction and miss an opportunity to build long-term relationships with our existing clients and turn them into raving fans. And that means missed opportunities for referrals and repeat business. River…
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Listing Bits Episode 75: Get Your Time Back with Automated Webinars – with Melissa Kwan of eWebinar
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51:41Listing Bits is back! If your role in real estate involves sales demos or any kind of training, you’re likely familiar with the frustration of delivering the same webinar over and over again. Or worse, preparing a webinar that is either poorly attended or no one shows up. But what if you could do 100 or even 1,000 webinars a month—without getting i…
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Listing Bits Episode 74: Zillow’s One Data Source Solution for MLSs – with Katie Smithson of Bridge Interactive
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47:23NAR’s MLS Policy Statement 8.6 goes into effect on September 1, 2022. So, what tools are available to make the implementation of the new One Data Source Policy easier for MLSs? Katie Smithson is Director of MLS Relations at Zillow Group, where she leads the team building their MLS data licensing and distribution platform, Bridge Interactive. Prior …
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Listing Bits Podcast Episode 73: A New Business Model for the MLS – with Colette Stevenson of REsides
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37:17What if it was easy for an MLS to raise money to develop the data services it needs and run the software its customers use? Colette Stevenson is CEO of REsides, the premier MLS in South Carolina. Formerly known as Hilton Head MLS, REsides serves REALTORS who represent properties in both South Carolina and Georgia, maintaining the most dependable an…
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Listing Bits Episode 72: Floor Plan Tech for Desktop Appraisals – with Jeff Allen of CubiCasa
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42:35Approximately 8 million appraisals were conducted in the US last year. By contrast, there are only 40,000 active real estate appraisers. So, it's no surprise that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are exploring appraisal modernization initiatives like the desktop appraisal option. But to make these alternatives to the traditional appraisal work, we need d…
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We're baaaaaack! I spend a lot of time at conferences explaining why MLSs, brokers, and franchisors should let the ‘professionals’ build their technology. And yet, there are real reasons why these stakeholders might want to design their own. So, when is it appropriate for an MLS to create its own tech stack rather than relying on a vendor? And what…
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Listing Bits Episode 70: Competing in the Showing Solutions Space – with William Schoeffler
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33:55When Zillow announced its intention to acquire ShowingTime in February of 2021, a slew of companies jumped into the showing solutions space. But Instashowing had already been in business for two years, and despite the fierce competition, its young founder believes that his startup has an edge. William Schoeffler is the Founder of Instashowing, a so…
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Listing Bits Episode 69: Educating Consumers on the MLS – with Katie Smithson
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26:09Ask the average consumer what they know about the MLS, and you’re likely to hear about their favorite Major League Soccer team. But CMLS wants to change that, and the organization is on a mission to educate the general public around the benefits of working with a real estate professional and listing a home on the MLS. Katie Smithson is the Director…
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Listing Bits Episode 68: A New Player in Showing Services – with Scott Fisher and Devin Beck
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35:37Prior to 2003, Supra had a monopoly on the lockbox market. But NAR membership wanted choice, so the trade association invested in its first outside tech company, SentriLock. Today, a similar market dominance exists in showing service solutions, and SentriLock is stepping in once again to compete with the dominant player in the space. Scott Fisher a…
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Listing Bits Episode 67: The Pros and Cons of LEAP – with Sam DeBord & Michael Wurzer
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37:16At present, MLS data access is unnecessarily complex. And brokers are calling for a more efficient system with a single set of rules around how the data can be used. In response, the CMLS Data Access Concepts Workgroup drafted the Listing Exchange and Access Policy or LEAP. But does the new policy really solve these problems? Could it be improved i…
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Listing Bits Episode 66: How Standards Streamline PropTech – with Sam DeBord of RESO
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50:37Policy may not be sexy, but without standards around how we format real estate data and build technology systems, we simply can’t share data or integrate the tools we need to do our jobs well. Sam DeBord serves as CEO of the Real Estate Standards Organization, the trade group responsible for developing the open standards that drive efficiency and s…
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Listing Bits Episode: Making Video Marketing Profitable – with Christian Sterner of WellcomeMat
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45:59Video marketing is a powerful way for agents, brokers and real estate companies to reach consumers. But how do we get the most mileage out of our videos? How do we maximize the marketing value of the content we create? Christian Sterner is the Cofounder and CEO of WellcomeMat, the premier platform for managing your real estate video. Christian’s te…
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Listing Bits Episode 64: An IT Geek Turned Broker’s Take on Tech – with Georgia Purpura of Urban Nest Realty
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44:57What can technology vendors do to better connect with the agents and brokers we hope to serve? And what can we learn from the perspective of a computer engineer turned REALTOR about how to approach real estate professionals and what kind of tech solutions they need? Georgia Purpura is Managing Broker at Urban Nest Realty, a mid-size independent bro…
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Listing Bits Episode 63: Making Second Home Ownership Accessible – with Austin Allison of Pacaso
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49:16Owning a second home can be an enriching experience, allowing us to make priceless memories with friends and family. But many can’t afford to buy a vacation home, nor does it make much sense to leave a house sitting empty for ten-plus months, even if you can afford it. So, what if you could buy a share of a second home and enjoy true ownership for …
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Listing Bits Episode 62: How to Win Business with Buyer Data – with Ashley Terrell of Buyside
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33:44It’s easier to gain a seller’s trust when you have the data to back you up. But where can agents and brokers go for real-time buyer data? And how do we turn those numbers into actionable insights to earn new business? Ashley Terrell is the Executive Vice President of Partnerships at Buyside, a real estate tech platform that helps real estate profes…
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Listing Bits Episode 61: Take the Stress Out of Moving – with John Heithaus of OK Move Me
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46:56The five most stressful life events include the death of a loved one, divorce, major illness or injury, job loss, and moving. But a new proptech platform is working to take relocation off the list with a tool that makes the experience of moving less stressful, less expensive, and more efficient. John Heithaus is a serial entrepreneur and venture in…
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Listing Bits Episode 60: A Next-Level MLS Collaboration – with Matt Consalvo, Chris Carrillo & Brad Bjelke of MLS Aligned
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42:01Who’s ready to get geeky about MLS? Collaborations among MLS organizations are usually about sharing data. But MLS Aligned takes collaboration to another level, promoting dialogue among their in-house technology teams and putting the tech tools they have developed to work in each other’s markets. Matt Consalvo is the CEO at Arizona Regional MLS, Ch…
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Listing Bits Episode 59: How Agents Win by Working with Renters – with Ishay Grinberg
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45:37Most real estate agents look down on rentals, preferring to work solely with clients looking to buy in the next three to six months. What they don’t realize is that there are $12B in leasing commissions available to those agents who are willing to work with renters. And they’re missing out on the opportunity to build relationships with the homebuye…
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Listing Bits Episode 57-Coronavirus Foundational Shifts in Real Estate – with Jessie Beaudoin
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43:09While we may not be able to predict exactly how the current health crisis will impact organized real estate moving forward, most of us would agree that change is in the air. The kind of change that could transform the way we do business altogether. So, how is the Coronavirus changing the way we think about the spaces where we live and work? And how…
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Listing Bits Episode 56: The Value of Nationwide MLS and Association Data – with Clint Skutchan
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32:06Out of 565 Multiple Listing Services nationwide, 82 serve less than 100 brokers and agents. Unsurprisingly, this means that the nation’s 20 largest Multiple Listing Services serve over 50 percent of the nation’s total MLS subscribers. These statistics didn’t exist a year ago, but thanks to the Real Estate Almanac, the disparity is clear. Now that w…
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