We are parents of two children and one of them just happens to have Down syndrome. When Liam was born we didn’t know very much about Down syndrome and most of the information we did have didn’t seem very hopeful and positive. Well this podcast aims to share stories, break down stereotypes and help change the narrative by redefining Down syndrome.
…
continue reading

1
188. Preparing for Annual Appointments
1:09:46
1:09:46
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:09:46Every year we face the stresses of annual appointments and assessments. Today we talk about game plans and strategies to help prepare for them. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/05/26/188-preparing-for-annual-appointments/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @…
…
continue reading
Happy Mother’s Day to all the mothers in this beautiful Down syndrome community. You are a force and we thank and celebrate you. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/05/11/187-happy-mothers-day/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our we…
…
continue reading

1
186. Life and Birth on Amazon Prime with Melissa Kynoch
40:42
40:42
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
40:42This week we are revisiting our interview with Melissa Kynoch, known by many for being featured on the BBC documentary LIFE AND BIRTH. Millions of people have had a chance to watch her positive attitude in the face of her son Bertie's Down syndrome diagnosis. Now, five years later, the docu-series is available in the United States on Amazon Prime. …
…
continue reading

1
185. Disability Pride and Self-Worth with Vaish Sarathy
48:47
48:47
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
48:47In this episode we discuss the need and power for us to cultivate self pride and worth within the disability community. In doing so, we nullify the damaging words and opinions of those who wish to label and minimize individuals with disabilities or anyone for that matter. Episode Transcript: Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop…
…
continue reading

1
184. The Adolescent Brain with Christina Aries - Part 2
49:43
49:43
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
49:43Today we are joined again by Mrs. Christina Aries, the Director of Adult Development at Citizens of the World Charter Schools for the second part of our discussion about brain development in the adolescent years. Episode Transcript: Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit ou…
…
continue reading

1
183. The Adolescent Brain with Christina Aries - Part 1
51:03
51:03
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
51:03Today we are joined by Mrs. Christina Aries, the Director of Adult Development at Citizens of the World Charter Schools for a two-part discussion about brain development in the adolescent years. Episode Transcript: Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our Facebook page @ifweknewthenPOD or visit our website https://…
…
continue reading

1
182. World Down Syndrome Day - March 21, 2025
40:13
40:13
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
40:13It’s World Down Syndrome Day 2025 and we did it! We released an episode on March 21st. Many in our community do so well at preparing for this day every year and we greatly appreciate them but also, here’s to all those that feel like they are always behind or that their ‘to do” list is getting bigger, not smaller. We celebrate you and your loved one…
…
continue reading

1
181. Olivier and Hilda Bernier and Their IEP Experience
38:11
38:11
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
38:11This week we have another conversation with filmmakers Olivier and Hilda to discuss their IEP experience featured in their film FORGET ME NOT: INCLUSION IN THE CLASSROOM. These talks not only shows us that we are not alone in this fight, but also gives us some powerful information that we can use in our own IEP meetings. Documentary Website: https:…
…
continue reading

1
180. Liam Turns 15: What Have We Learned In This Journey?
56:20
56:20
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
56:20Happy Birthday Liam! In this week’s episode we discuss the lessons we have learned over the last 15 years in both education, behavior and societal changes. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/02/24/180-liam-turns-15-what-have-we-learned-in-this-journey/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us …
…
continue reading

1
179. Forget Me Not: Inclusion in the Classroom Documentary - Hilda & Olivier Bernier
58:06
58:06
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
58:06Today we are joined by Hilda and Olivier, who are documentarians of a fantastic film “Forget Me Not”. This film tells the story of our children’s fight for an equal education and raises the question of inclusion versus segregation. It’s a documentary that is so important to making changes in the lives of individuals with Down syndrome. Website: htt…
…
continue reading

1
178. The 2025 DSDN Rockin' Dad Retreat with Ben Hughes
51:31
51:31
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
51:31In July 2025, DSDN will host their annual Rockin' Dad Retreat for fathers of children with Down Syndrome to gather from across the country. We are joined again by Ben Hughes to give us all the details of this year’s event and also an update on his own journey. Retreat Details - WHEN: July 11-12, 2025, WHERE: Hilton San Diego Gaslamp Quarter, San Di…
…
continue reading

1
177. Showing Up For The Challenges - Karen Maezen Miller
1:09:06
1:09:06
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:09:06Lori recorded this episode in October but what is very apparent is how challenges and the unknown are an everyday thing that helps tell our stories, In this episode Maezen talks about finding our space and our 'me' time. Karen Maezen Miller’s Website: https://karenmaezenmiller.com Maezen’s books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller…
…
continue reading

1
176. Revisiting 10,000 Maniacs Founding Member Steven Gustafson
58:23
58:23
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
58:23Steven Gustafson is a founding member and bassist of the band 10,000 Maniacs. His sister, Cathy, had Down syndrome and we got a chance to discuss with him the impact she had on his life and the lives around her. Today we revisit that interview to share this sibling love story. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2025/01/…
…
continue reading

1
175. Communicating Our Stories with Sid and Vaish Sarathy
1:16:28
1:16:28
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:16:28This week we revisit our conversation with Sid and Vaish Sarathy. Sid, who has the duel diagnoses of autism and Down syndrome. Although he is non-Speaking, Sid is a poet with two published books. Dr. Vaish Sarathy is a functional nutrition practitioner and science educator. She is the founder of Functional Nutrition for Kids and Plum Pudding Chemis…
…
continue reading

1
174. Advocating For Speech Therapy - Julie Picot
48:28
48:28
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
48:28This week we once again sit down with Julie Picot but this time we are briefly joined by her daughter Elyse. We take a deep dive on the speech and reading journey in our community and discuss different ways to advocate for our children. Teach Your Child To Read in 100 Easy Lessons: https://a.co/d/3CEtpLY Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen7018…
…
continue reading

1
173. The Endless Possibilities of People with Down Syndrome: Revisiting Jake Pratt
1:03:30
1:03:30
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:03:30This week we revisit our interview with Jake Pratt, who with support, advocacy and inclusion is living his dreams and changing the narrative for people with Down syndrome. Jake’s UPS Commercial: https://youtu.be/fw97dqK6uiM Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/05/27/173-the-endless-possibilities-of-people-with-down-s…
…
continue reading
Today we celebrate all the powerful mothers who give so much to their children day in and day out. Remember how strong you are. The world runs on that power and we thank you. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/05/11/172-happy-mothers-day-we-celebrate-you/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop …
…
continue reading

1
171. Alzheimer’s Disease In People with Down Syndrome - Dr. Elizabeth Head
45:22
45:22
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
45:22This week we had the privilege to talk to Dr. Elizabeth Head, Professor and Vice Chair for research at the University of California, Irvine in the department of Pathology. Dr. Head has published more than 150 peer reviewed papers and has dedicated over 20 years to the study of aging and Alzheimer’s disease with a focus on people with Down syndrome.…
…
continue reading

1
170. Celebrating The Life of Carl Erskine with Ted Green
1:02:25
1:02:25
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:02:25The world lost pioneering Down syndrome advocate Carl Erskine on April 16, 2024, at the age of 97. Carl and his wife Betty, were involved deeply with the Special Olympics and charities which aimed at helping people with developmental disabilities such as his son Jimmy. Carl Erskine was a MLB All-Star, World Series Champion, ally of Jackie Robinson …
…
continue reading

1
169. The Annual DSDN Retreats with Ben Hughes
59:06
59:06
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
59:06This week we are fortunate to have Ben Hughes back on the podcast to discuss the Down Syndrome Diagnosis Network’s (DSDN) annual “Rockin’ Retreats” that offer our community the connection and respite caregivers truly need. Retreat information page: https://www.dsdiagnosisnetwork.org/dsdn-retreats Dad's retreat registration page: https://form.jotfor…
…
continue reading

1
168. Liam's 14th Birthday: Sharing Some Insight
1:05:45
1:05:45
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:05:45Our son turned 14 last weekend and in this episode we reflect on the joys, challenges and growth we've experienced together on this journey with Liam. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/03/09/168-liams-14th-birthday-sharing-some-insight/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our F…
…
continue reading

1
167. A Discussion About Using The R-Word with Lynette Louise
59:26
59:26
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
59:26This week we revisit our interview with Lynette Louise who is board certified in Neurofeedback. We were very interested in the science of Neurofeedback but early on in the conversation we moved to a serious discussion about the use of the r-word and the reasons why Lynette uses it. This episode may feel a bit intense for many of you and we understa…
…
continue reading

1
166. Finding The Right Supports Without Shame - Julie Picot
1:03:42
1:03:42
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:03:42This week we have the wonderful Julie Picot back on the show to discuss her experience transitioning her daughter, Elyse from TK to Kindergarten. We also touch upon how very often parents feel shame when guiding their school aged children out of diapers. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2024/02/17/166-finding-the-righ…
…
continue reading

1
165. Picking The Right Pediatrician with Dr. Ilona Kleiner
58:13
58:13
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
58:13Dr. Ilona Kleiner has been both our children's pediatrician since birth. Today we discuss with her the importance of always seeing the whole child and how her care for Liam really isn't any different than that of a typical child. Dr. Kleiner's Bio: https://www.pamgdocs.com/copy-of-about-our-doctors-1 Recommend books: What’s Going on Down There? by …
…
continue reading

1
164. Charlotte and Riley: Not Taking No For An Answer
48:42
48:42
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
48:42In this episode, we discuss Charlotte Fien’s path to advocacy, breaking down the barriers of education, the love story between her and her husband Riley, and how her infectious can-do attitude has influenced him to break down barriers in his own life. It is the story of two humans creating the life they want to live and never taking no for an answe…
…
continue reading

1
163. Revisiting Patience In The New Year with Maezen Miller
55:50
55:50
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
55:50Happy Martin Luther King Day! We start this new year by revisiting with our friend, Zen Buddhist Priest, Maezen Miller. We discuss having patience and letting go in order for it to all unfold. Believing and having patience can enable our children to be who they are, go where they go and do what they do, to become exactly who they are. Karen Maezen …
…
continue reading

1
162. Living In The Moment and Taking the Time to Reflect On Life
8:20
8:20
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
8:20Follow Stephen while he unexpectedly flies back to Louisiana due to his mother’s illness. He reflects on the importance of experiencing all of life’s moments and truly being present. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/10/22/162-living-in-the-moment/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a l…
…
continue reading

1
161. Down Syndrome Awareness Month 2023: Bringing Awareness to Our Community’s Potential
30:43
30:43
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
30:43October is Down Syndrome Awareness Month and in this episode, Stephen and Lori discuss another angle in your next Awareness Campaign. Some of the most important people to make aware of our community's potential are educational professionals. We as parents can advocate but it just might be our children who change the minds of those in charge of thei…
…
continue reading

1
160. The Inclusive Hub: A Gym For People of All Abilities with Liam Starkey
55:17
55:17
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
55:17Joining us today is Liam Starkey from The Inclusive Hub. The Hub was started in 2016 helping small groups of Autistic children around Liverpool, England take part in non-contact boxing and fitness sessions. It has now expanded and continues to empower people of all ages and abilities through exercise. Website: www.theinclusivehub.co.uk Order a tee …
…
continue reading

1
159. DSALA and DSC2U: Supporting Our Spanish-Speaking Community
46:03
46:03
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
46:03Today we are joined by Sandra Baker from the Down Syndrome Association of Los Angeles (DSALA) and Dr. Brian Skotko from the Down Syndrome Clinic To You (DSC2U) to discuss their collaboration in supporting Spanish-Speaking families that have a member with Down syndrome. DSC2U: www.DSC2U.org DSALA: www.DSALA.org DSALA Contact: (818) 786-0001 info@DSA…
…
continue reading

1
158. Best Buddies with Katelyn Quintero
1:05:38
1:05:38
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:05:38This week we were joined by Katelyn Quintero from Best Buddies International, which is a nonprofit 501(c)(3) organization dedicated to establishing a global volunteer movement that creates opportunities for one-to-one friendships, integrated employment, leadership development, and inclusive living for individuals with intellectual and developmental…
…
continue reading

1
157. Ruby’s Rainbow with Liz Plachta
1:02:14
1:02:14
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:02:14We had such fun talking to Liz Plachta, the founder of Ruby’s Rainbow! Ruby’s Rainbow grants scholarships to students with Down syndrome who are seeking post-secondary education, including enrichment or vocational classes, and helping them achieve their dreams of higher education while spreading awareness of their capabilities and general awesomene…
…
continue reading

1
156. GiGi’s Playhouse with Nancy Gianni
1:15:43
1:15:43
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:15:43Today, we are joined by Nancy Gianni to talk about her foundation, GiGi’s Playhouse, which provides FREE, life-changing therapeutic, educational, and career training programs for 30,000+ individuals of all ages, everyday. GiGi’s Playhouse empowers families by maximizing opportunities for daily achievement and lasting acceptance and in turn, showing…
…
continue reading

1
155. Using Your IEP to Make the Most of Middle School
58:59
58:59
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
58:59In this episode we give an update on our son Liam, a 13-year old in middle school, and discuss how far he has come, what supports have helped us navigate his transitions into middle school and how we are helping him find the independence every teen wants to cultivate. Citizen's Of The World Middle School: https://www.cwcsilverlake.org Episode Trans…
…
continue reading

1
154. Revisiting Our Interview with Megyn Price
1:11:45
1:11:45
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:11:45This is our conversation with actress Megyn Price to discuss inclusion, the importance of encouraging others to express their uniqueness and how her Uncle, who had Down syndrome, affected her family in a positive way. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/08/27/154-revisiting-our-interview-with-megyn-price/2/ Please f…
…
continue reading

1
153. Revisiting Jad Issa’s Story: A Man with Down Syndrome Raises a Family - An Interview with Sader Issa
45:22
45:22
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
45:22This week we revisit the story of Jad Issa, a man with Down Syndrome who is a husband, father and respected citizen. At diagnosis, parents of children with Down syndrome are immediately told all the things their child won’t do. Jad’s life shows us that these preconceptions aren’t only untrue but the very belief in them often cause limitations. As w…
…
continue reading

1
152. Revisiting The Canadian Down Syndrome Society’s Project Understood - Training Speech Recognition Technology
57:53
57:53
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
57:53This episode is the entire conversation we had with Matt MacNeil and Ed Casagrande from the Canadian Down Syndrome Society concerning their collaboration with Google AI to create a database that can help train Google’s speech recognition technology to better understand people with Down syndrome. Donate your voice at: https://projectunderstood.ca Le…
…
continue reading

1
151. The New York City Buddy Walk and Times Square Video with Abby Brandon-Livits and Misty Adams
54:44
54:44
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
54:44This week we are joined by Abby Brandon-Livits and Misty Adams from the National Down Syndrome Society to talk about the 2023 NYC Buddy Walk and it’s wonderful Times Square Video presentation that redefines the image of the Down syndrome community. NYC Buddy Walk website: https://give.ndss.org/event/2023-new-york-city-buddy-walk-r/e478474 National …
…
continue reading

1
150. Down Syndrome Research, Ableism and The Right To Just Be with Dr. Eric Rubenstein
1:34:05
1:34:05
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:34:05Today we're joined again by Dr. Eric Rubenstein, an Assistant Professor of Epidemiology at Boston University School of Public Health. Eric is a researcher, a volunteer for the Special Olympics and a lifelong advocate of individuals with Down syndrome. This conversation is a round table discussion of change and evolution, progress and insights that …
…
continue reading

1
149. Down Syndrome and Alzheimer’s Research with Dr. Tom Mahan
1:27:03
1:27:03
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:27:03Today we're joined by Dr. Tom Mahan, who specializes in Alzheimer’s research with a focus on individuals with Down syndrome. Tom is a father of three boys and his oldest son, Teddy, has down syndrome which is what sparked him into taking his already existing research of Alzheimer’s and guiding it to a focus on individuals with Down syndrome. ABC-DS…
…
continue reading

1
148. RODS Heroes - Our Interview with Brady Murray
1:15:56
1:15:56
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:15:56This week we visit with Brady Murray of RODS Heroes, an organization meant to inspire families to answer the call to adopt children born with Down syndrome and other special abilities. Brady and his wife Andrea have seven children and it was their adopted son Cooper who brought our attention to the Murray’s advocacy though his appearances throwing …
…
continue reading

1
147. T21 Coffee - Giving Back to the Down Syndrome Community - Johan Lindborg
56:09
56:09
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
56:09In this episode, we speak with Johan Lindborg, founder of t21 Coffee. We had a beautiful conversation discussing his journey with his 12 year old son Cooper and how he has transformed from the doubts he had and the darkness he felt when receiving the Down syndrome diagnosis. It is an open and honest discussion that touches on fears to which any par…
…
continue reading

1
146. Down Syndrome Diagnosis Network (DSDN) with Ben Hughes
49:42
49:42
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
49:42Today we are joined by Ben Hughs to discuss the Down Syndrome Diagnosis Network (DSDN) and how it empowers new parents with online supports, information, and resources. We also talk about the in person “Rockin’ Retreats” that offer our community the connection and respite necessary, but not always utilized, on the journey for every parent and careg…
…
continue reading

1
145. A Grassroots Movement to Change the Narrative: A Conversation with Ted Green
1:01:07
1:01:07
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:01:07Ted Green is a documentarian whose latest film, ‘The Best We’ve Got: The Carl Erskine Story’, will be airing on PBS SoCal July 4th. Ted’s film is an in-depth look at Carl Erskine, a Dodgers pitcher whose son Jimmie was born with Down syndrome 63 years ago, a time in our country’s history when segregation plagued humanity. Carl and Betty, when faced…
…
continue reading

1
144. Non-Speaking Is Not Non-Communicating - Vaish and Sid Sarathy
1:16:28
1:16:28
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:16:28Today we are joined by Vaish and Sid Sarathy. Dr. Vaish Sarathy is a functional nutrition practitioner and science educator. She is the founder of Functional Nutrition for Kids and Plum Pudding Chemistry, both practices designed to optimize the learning potential of kids with Down syndrome and/or autism using both functional medicine and non-linear…
…
continue reading

1
143. Letting Go: A Conversation with Karen Maezen Miller
1:07:05
1:07:05
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:07:05In this episode we speak again to Zen Buddhist Priest, Karen Maezen Miller and discuss the art of letting go, letting the answers be in the moment, and finding surrender in acceptance of that moment. Karen Maezen Miller Website: https://karenmaezenmiller.com Maezen’s books on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Karen-Maezen-Miller/e/B001JP2RQ0/ref=dp_by…
…
continue reading

1
142. Learning From Our Mistakes: Deconstructing an IEP with Julie Picot
1:18:50
1:18:50
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:18:50In this episode, Julie Picot shares the experience of her latest series of IEP’s meant to usher her daughter Elyse into the Los Angeles Public School system. LAUSD Complaint Response Unit Website: https://achieve.lausd.net/Page/3581 Email: [email protected] Phone: (213) 241-7682 TTY: (213) 241-2511 Directions To File A Due Process (PDF): h…
…
continue reading

1
141. Julie and Aaron Picot: The First 5 Years of Their Journey with Down Syndrome
1:02:12
1:02:12
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:02:12In this episode we speak with Araon and Julie, parents of 5 year old Elyse, about the lessons learned, the changes seen and the realizations made from diagnosis till now. Episode Transcript: https://ifweknewthen701833686.wordpress.com/2023/05/28/141-julie-and-aaron-picot/2/ Please follow us on Twitter @ifweknewthenPOD you can drop us a line on our …
…
continue reading

1
140. Keeping Up with Bertie - An Update with Melissa Kynoch
1:14:31
1:14:31
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:14:31In this episode we reconnect with Melissa Kynoch as her son Bertie begins primary school in Birmingham, England. You may remember that Melissa and Bertie were featured on the popular BBC Documentary Series ‘Life and Birth’. Among many things, we discuss the impact inclusion has made in Bertie’s life and the family's journey. Wouldn’t Change A Thing…
…
continue reading

1
139. Looking Back and Seeing the Effects of a Non Inclusive Environment - Indira Cruz
1:13:25
1:13:25
Play later
Play later
Lists
Like
Liked
1:13:25In this week's episode we have a wonderful conversation with Indira Cruz discussing the impact a non-inclusive environment had on her brother, now 50. By looking back at our past we learn from the injustices and see the consequences they had on generations of people with disabilities. Some of those lessons can be hard. This is one of them. Episode …
…
continue reading