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Loan Officer Leadership Podcast is one of the top podcasts in America with your host Steve Kyles. Each episode is jam-packed with STRATEGY and TOOLS to grow your business and leadership. Our purpose is to help you close more loans in less time. If you are ready to close more loans with fewer headaches, visit FreedomPlanningCall.com today to schedule a FREE strategy call.
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Frank Garay, top mortgage industry leader and host of The Loan Officer Breakfast Club, powered by Mortgage Marketing Animals, brings you not only the latest and greatest gizmos and gadgets that top loan officers are using, but he also frequently shares proven strategies and ways to get more referrals for your mortgage business. Learn what has been successful for those that are at the top of their game and how they've implemented them - so you can do the same as a loan officer.
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Beyond The Rate Sheet

Carl White and Jason Perkins

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Welcome to Beyond the Rate Sheet, your resource for industry insights and innovative strategies to improve your origination business. This podcast is designed to help loan officers in revolutionizing their business improving your performance in every way. Each episode features in-depth discussions on an array of topics, from marketing strategies to technology integration, regulatory compliance to customer service, and everything in between. We bring you exclusive interviews with industry lea ...
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White explores the world of Facebook and Instagram ads with social media expert Chelsea Gardner, who specializes in helping loan officers maximize their online presence. Chelsea shares valuable insights on the eff…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Ready to build long-term visibility and trust in an AI-first world? In this follow-up to Part 1, Steve Kyles and Chris Johnstone go even deeper into what it takes to get found (and trusted) by AI—before your competition does. In Part 2, …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. AI isn’t the future—it’s already reshaping how consumers search for homes and loan officers. Are you being recommended… or replaced? In this episode, your host Steve Kyles and AI/tech expert Chris Johnstone break down what every loan off…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White shares a heartfelt story about a rowboat and the lasting impact of encouragement from his grandfather, illustrating how positive reinforcement can shape our beliefs and abilities over decades. He emphasizes …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host Carl White and Chris Johnstone dive into the exciting world of AI and its transformative impact on the mortgage industry, featuring the latest advancements from Google’s Gemini and how it changes the way we search for i…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. What if the next generation wants to buy a home—but just doesn’t believe they can? In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles is joined by Kristen Messerli, co-founder of FirstHomeIQ, a nonprofit on a mission to bridge the financial literac…
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Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode of the Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, Frank Garay sits down with Josh Pitts of Shred Media for a wild ride—literally and professionally. Josh gives us a gripping update on his family’s journey sailing the world on a catamaran, includin…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White sits down with brothers Greg and Jim Malamut, who share their journey in the mortgage industry, following in the footsteps of their father, Bill Malamut. Discover how they transitioned from corporate jobs to…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White sits down with Jody Bruns, founder of the Certified Divorce Lending Professional (CDLP) Program, to explore the unique niche of divorce mortgage planning. Jody shares insights on how loan officers can effect…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Ever feel like your business is running you instead of the other way around? In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles shares the 3 game-changing shifts that helped him (and countless others) go from chaos to clarity—and build a consistent…
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Episode 154 Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode of the Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, I sit down with Chelsea Gardner, CEO of FullyAlignedMarketing.com, to uncover some major changes to Facebook marketing that loan officers need to know—especially when working with real …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. The way people search for mortgage professionals is changing—and if you’re not positioning yourself to be found in AI platforms like ChatGPT, you’re already falling behind. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles is joined by tech and AI…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White and Kristin Simpson dive into the importance of decisiveness in sales, emphasizing the mantra "I'd rather have a quick no than a long maybe." They discuss the significance of tracking conversion rates, the v…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White breaks down the crucial distinction between being famous and being familiar in the world of marketing, emphasizing the importance of building genuine connections over chasing viral fame. Discover the 7-11 pr…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. What if just $5 a day could keep your name in front of every past client and referral partner—without annoying anyone? In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles is joined by targeted ad strategist Chelsea Gardner to break down how loan off…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In Part 2 of this candid conversation, Ryan Pope dives deeper into what drives Steve Kyles to consistently show up and lead at a high level. Steve shares how overcoming limiting beliefs, mastering your calendar, and surrounding yourself …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White chats with Luke Shankula, a missionary kid turned expert in AI applications, about the importance of prompt engineering and practical ways to leverage AI tools like ChatGPT to enhance productivity and market…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Kristin Simpson dive into the concept of "shiny whistle syndrome" and share practical strategies to maintain focus in a world filled with distractions. Drawing inspiration from a powerful basketball ana…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this special episode, Ryan Pope flips the script and interviews Steve Kyles about his personal journey—from humble beginnings to leading one of the top mortgage coaching communities in the country. You’ll hear how Steve first entered …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Owen Lee dive into the latest developments surrounding the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) and its significant changes under new leadership. They discuss the ongoing court battles regarding …
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Episode 153 Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode, I’m pulling back the curtain on my journey into the investor loan space — and specifically, how I closed a $2.1 million cannabis loan in Sacramento, CA. I’ll walk you through what made this deal unique, the challenges I fa…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. Your past clients want to hear from you. They just forgot you’re still in the business. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles shares a simple system to turn old relationships into new referrals—without cold-calling or sounding salesy. …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White sit down with Frank Seidman, a loan officer who shares his inspiring journey from struggling with zero closings to achieving four units in a month. Frank discusses the pivotal changes he made in his daily r…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Kristin Simpson dive into the fascinating world of teamwork through the lens of Belgian draft horses and Clydesdales, exploring how these powerful animals can pull significantly more weight together tha…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. If you’ve been hovering around 5–7 loans a month and can’t seem to break through, this episode is going to shift everything. The problem isn’t lack of effort. It’s lack of structure. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles explains why m…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles dives deep into how top-producing loan officers are generating 2 to 3 referrals every single day from their sphere of influence. He shares a proven daily success plan that focuses on meaningful con…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White addresses a common misconception among loan officers: the search for a magical lead source that will transform their business. He emphasizes that the true key to success lies not in finding the next big thin…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White shares a personal story about overcoming a childhood speech impediment and the pivotal moment that changed his life—his ability to say his friend's name, Rory. He reflects on the importance of perseverance, …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles shares how top producers consistently close 8–10 loans a month without buying leads, cold-calling, or chasing. The secret? Structure, not hustle. You’ll hear what happened when over 4,000 outbound …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your hosts, Carl White and Owen Lee dive into the latest updates on the mortgage industry, focusing on the recently introduced trigger lead bill in Congress. Owen shares key highlights from the Mortgage Bankers Association's advo…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. If you’re not getting at least 2–5 loans a month from your database, you’re leaving serious money on the table. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles breaks down why most loan officers miss out on consistent, referral-rich business—and…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White shares valuable insights on how loan officers can tap into the often-overlooked resource of credit unions for referrals. Inspired by a question from Glenn, a successful loan officer from Long Beach, Californ…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White sits down with Eric Levin, co-founder of ModelMatch, as they explore the world of data-driven business development for loan officers and real estate agents. They discuss the importance of efficient prospecti…
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Episode 152 Welcome to another epic episode of The Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, with your host, Frank Garay. In this episode of the Mortgage Loan Officer Podcast, we're excited to announce that Loan Officer Breakfast Club replays are now available nationwide for free — so no matter where you are, you can plug in and get the inspiration and tactic…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White shares his insights on why having data alone isn't enough for loan officers and branch managers looking to build successful relationships with real estate agents. He introduces Model Match, a powerful tool t…
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Welcome to Loan Officer Freedom, the #1 podcast in the country for loan officers, hosted by Carl White. In this episode, your host, Carl White interviews Brian Stevens from Mortgage Shots, diving into the fascinating world of the mortgage industry. They discuss the dynamics of Shark Tank investments, the importance of building rhythms in business, …
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Welcome to Loan Officer Leadership, your #1 podcast for Loan Officers who are looking for structure and success. In this episode, your host, Steve Kyles and Chris Johnstone break down how AI can help loan officers scale agent outreach, answer inbound calls, and book more qualified appointments—without losing the personal touch. They talk about usin…
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