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Between Drafts

Nathan Baugh and Nat Eliason

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Are you an aspiring author dreaming of writing full-time? Join Nathan and Nat, two online writers navigating the murky waters of the publishing world, as they pull back the curtain on their journeys to becoming professional authors. With refreshing honesty and hard-won insights, they'll share the ups and downs, rejections and victories, and get real about their numbers, pitches, and publishing experiences. Whether you're hoping to publish fiction or nonfiction, traditionally or independently ...
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Made You Think

Neil Soni, Nat Eliason, and Adil Majid

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Made You Think is a podcast by Nat Eliason, Neil Soni, and Adil Majid where the hosts and their guests examine ideas that, as the name suggests, make you think. Episodes will explore books, essays, podcasts, and anything else that warrants further discussion, teaches something useful, or at the very least, exercises our brain muscles.
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Most employees want to write a book but don’t have the time to write or don’t know where to start. This podcast will show you how to get your nonfiction book published while working a full-time job. You'll also get simple tips about launching and marketing your book.
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Smart Friends

Eric Jorgenson

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Casual conversations with founders, technologists, investors, and artists about building a brighter future, together. Welcome to our digital living room. With science, technology and entrepreneurship we can *continue* to create unfathomable leaps in quality of life. We show you how to find, apply, build, and invest in technologies to change your life and the world. When we have smart friends, we do smart things. When we do smart things, we save the world. No matter who, where, or when you ar ...
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The Pathless Path is hosted by Paul Millerd - a writer, creator, and consultant. He has conversations with freelancers, self-employed entrepreneurs, creators, and vagabonds who share their perspectives on their relationship with work, burnout, bootstrapping, indie hacking, remote work, reinvention, creativity, sabbaticals, leisure, self-employment, unconventional living, and digital nomadism. Past guests include Ali Abdaal, Russ Roberts, Kevin Kelly, Khe Hy, David Senra, Derek Sivers, Joe Hu ...
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Interviews w/ authors, entrepreneurs, athletes and others on resilience, getting on or getting over life’s set ups and setbacks. If research exists on how people bounce back, he talks about it. If there are physical practices, proven psychologies or philosophies that can help people build personal foundations before the storms come, he digs into it.
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It's easy to doom scroll on social media and complain about corrupt institutions, broken systems, and incompetent leaders. But this show isn't for complainers. Outside The System is an exploration of ideas, technologies, and people that are building alternatives to traditional systems. The podcast explores media, money (crypto/web3), music, culture, and much more.
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Paid in Full

Devin Faddoul

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Paid in Full is a podcast that explores the journeys of fascinating individuals that chose a different path. Hosted by Devin Faddoul, each episode features a guest who shares their unique perspective on life, work, and the world around us. Whether they are entrepreneurs, artists, or hustlers, they’re all searching for their own versions of success. Through candid and engaging conversations, listeners will get to know the guests on a personal level, learning about their struggles, triumphs, a ...
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Dr Ali Abdaal is the world’s most followed productivity expert and author of Feel-Good Productivity, the brand new book that reveals why the secret to productivity isn’t discipline, it’s joy. In his podcast, Deep Dive, Ali sits down with inspiring creators, thinkers, entrepreneurs and high performers to help listeners build lives that they love. Ali’s cheerful style, positive approach, and well-researched content have made him a trusted voice when it comes to productivity. The internet means ...
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The Failory Podcast

Nicolás Cerdeira

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From large funding rounds, acquisitions, and a constant stream of success stories coming out of startups, it is often hard to see why almost 90% of them fail. The Failory Podcast dives deep on this notion and uncovers the lessons today’s successful founders learned at previous ventures so that you can avoid similar pitfalls and apply winning strategies to your business from the get-go.
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Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:14) - The magic of code (00:05:30) - The wonder of early computing (00:11:13) - The evolution of computing: From analog to digital (00:18:45) - The personal computer revolution (00:32:36) - The future of computing: Beyond silicon (00:36:59) - The importance of computing history (00:40:53) - AI and human uniqueness …
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In this episode, I'm pumped to welcome back Nick Maggiulli to the podcast (https://youtu.be/deMXbaI-Ir4). We dive into various topics about money and financial independence, with a focus on Nick's endorsement of the 'COAST Fire' strategy, something I accidentally embraced after quitting my job. Nick shares his personal stories of financial challeng…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Kieran Klaassen.Kieran is the founder of Cora, a beautiful AI email assistant. While we’ve all been vibe coding, Kieran has gone to the next level to manage multiple AI agents to code for him at the same time. I got him to show me exactly how he does this using Claude Code, voice, slash commands, and more. …
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Morgan Brown.Morgan is the VP of Product for AI at Dropbox. He gave me an inside look at his top AI workflows. We also talked about building Dash, Dropbox’s new AI agent for work, and how AI will reshape PM.Timestamps: (00:00) How Morgan uses AI as a companion for everything he does (01:26) Morgan's 3 best …
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Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:04:19) - Entering the VC space (00:08:38) - Pilot-fund theories (00:12:50) - Risk tracking (00:19:56) - Finding LP alignment (00:22:39) - Arkady’s fund thesis (00:47:12) - Creating the index of solutions to problems (00:57:18) - The TAM for VC in 2025 (01:00:29) - How founders can increase the odds of being funded by …
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Lawrence is one of my favorite creators. He shares with passion, vulnerability and care. I chatted with Lawrence Yeo about his new book, 'The Inner Compass,' exploring themes of self-reflection, creativity, and the journey of writing and self-publishing. We discuss the importance of engaging with the world to gain a deeper understanding of oneself,…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with James Evans. James is the Head of AI for Amplitude, the leading product analytics platform. We had a great chat about why nobody has built a good AI analyst yet and why he’s betting on AI agents that can monitor your product 24/7. James also shared some real talk about whether AI will displace PM and analys…
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In this episode, I have a conversation with my friend Jack Moses. Three years ago, Jack emailed me after reading my book, declaring he was dropping out of college. Over time, I've been amazed by his life's actions, from embracing hustle culture to diving deep into spirituality. Recently, Jack led a retreat in Thailand, inspiring me with his courage…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Cameron Adams.Cameron leads product for Canva where people are creating 1B+ designs every month. We talked about how AI will transform design and why he believes in prototypes over PRDs and coaches over managers. I also loved hearing Cam’s stories about Canva’s rubber ducky easter egg and what a bike accide…
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“Prime Intellect was an uncertain god. It had acted because it had to, but if it had been human its hand would be shaking on the controls.” Welcome back to another episode of Made You Think! This episode dives into The Metamorphosis of Prime Intellect by Roger Williams, a soft sci-fi novella that imagines an all-powerful AI enforcing the Three Laws…
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Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:52) - The Founder's book project (00:04:06) - Effort and building relationships (00:11:20) - The value of self-publishing (00:24:00) - Bootstrapping a HoldCo (00:46:05) - Finding natural fit in business (00:47:48) - The role of trust in business (00:49:07) - AI and changing perspectives (00:50:26) - Daily use of AI…
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Grab a copy of Husk Join Nathan's author newsletter Join Nat's author newsletter Nathan and Nat tackle one of the biggest challenges facing aspiring authors: how to financially sustain yourself while pursuing a writing career. They explore various strategies writers use to make ends meet before their books become profitable, drawing from their own …
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Grab a copy of Husk Join Nathan's author newsletter Join Nat's author newsletter Dive into a mind-bending exploration of memory, time, and identity with Blake Crouch's "Recursion." Nat and Nathan dissect this thrilling sci-fi novel that pushes the boundaries of what's possible when memories become more than just recollections. They examine how Crou…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Nate Gonzalez.Nate leads ChatGPT for Work which is now used by 92% of Fortune 500 companies. In our chat, he reveals how OpenAI runs with less than 30 PMs, what they look for in new hires, how he personally uses ChatGPT to save time at work, and more. Timestamps:(00:00) 92% of Fortune 500 companies already …
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Grab a copy of Husk Join Nathan's author newsletter Join Nat's author newsletter Nat takes us behind the scenes of launching his new novel "Husk," sharing detailed insights about the realities of self-publishing. From navigating Amazon's complex ranking system to experimenting with different sales channels, Nat breaks down the numbers and strategie…
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Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:45) - Who are your heroes? (00:05:16) - What is something you’ve had to teach yourself that’s become a core part of your identity? (00:07:34) - Taking a sabbatical post-exit (00:09:30) - Going back into entrepreneurship (00:12:52) - How to kill two-factor auth (00:14:34) - When to split a company into two companies…
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Matt Palmer is the Head of Developer Relations at Replit and a vibe coding expert. He showed me how to build an app to help busy parents find kid-friendly places (playgrounds, hikes) nearby in just 30 minutes without writing a single line of code. We covered frontend, API, databases, authentication, security and more.Timestamps: (00:00) The 3 core …
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Grab a copy of Husk Join Nathan's author newsletter Join Nat's author newsletter With Nat's sci-fi novel "Husk" just days from release, Nathan and Nat explore the strategic decisions and emotional rollercoaster of bringing a book into the world. From choosing the right Amazon categories to maximize visibility, to the delicate balance of pricing and…
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Adam Loving (Meta) has helped 100s of companies craft AI products. Our interview is a complete, beginner friendly AI course on how to use prompting, evals, RAG, and fine-tuning to build great AI products. Timestamps: (00:00) The 2 types of AI optimizations every PM needs to know (02:52) 4 tips to craft compelling AI prompts (07:14) 4 types of AI ev…
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Personal updates about life, including his recent move back to Asia, reflections on work and career paths, parenting experiences, and insights into education and self-publishing. I share the challenges and joys of parenting, how I think about decisions in regards to kids, and evolving thoughts on publishing and creative projects. Topics 00:00 Intro…
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Topics: (00:00:00) - Intro (00:00:45) - Introducing Nat Eliason (00:01:27) - Nat's Diverse Career and Writing Journey (00:01:47) - The Transition from Nonfiction to Fiction (00:02:13) - The Seven Act Structure and Writing Process (00:02:44) - Publishing with Scribe and Launching Husk (00:03:24) - The Rewards and Challenges of Writing (00:04:29) - B…
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Grab a copy of Husk Join Nathan's author newsletter Join Nat's author newsletter Nathan and Nat dive deep into Christopher Ruocchio's epic science fantasy novel "Empire of Silence." They explore the book's unique blend of science fiction and fantasy elements, comparing it to works like "Dune" and "Name of the Wind." The hosts discuss how the novel'…
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Today, I want to share a new episode with Sam Gregg-Wallace.As VP of Talent at Shopify, Sam is building a radical career system where ICs are paid the same as managers, AI usage is mandatory, and employees can advance their career by mastering their craft. If you’re tired of the corporate ladder, then this episode is for you.Timestamps: (00:00) It'…
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“The greatest polluting element in the earth's environment is the proliferation of electromagnetic fields. I consider that to be a far greater threat on a global scale than warming, or the increase of chemical elements in the environment.” Welcome back to another episode of Made You Think! In this episode, we’re diving into The Body Electric by Rob…
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There’s something strangely reassuring about knowing people were wrestling with the similar issues we struggle with over 2,000 years ago — even if they wore togas and wrote with a chisel. Donald Robertson is a cognitive-behavioral psychotherapist, acclaimed author of How to Think Like a Roman Emperor, and one of the world’s leading voices on Stoici…
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Grab a copy of Husk Join Nathan's author newsletter Join Nat's author newsletter Nathan discusses his decision to launch a paid version of his newsletter Worldbuilders, drawing inspiration from George Saunders' Story Club. He shares his vision for creating valuable content focused on long-form literature analysis and storytelling, including monthly…
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Claire is the Chief Product Officer of LaunchDarkly, founder of ChatPRD, and host of the How I AI podcast. No product leader uses AI as much as Claire so I was thrilled to get her to demo how she builds a new feature with AI agents and how she’s advising PMs to adapt to AI in the next 18 months. This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9K+ co…
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Hello! I'm back! Expect a slow ramp, but there are new episodes coming! I talked with Nat Eliason about his journey as a writer, from early experiments with ideas to fully embracing writing as a career. We discussed the challenges and rewards of moving from nonfiction to fiction, the trade-offs between traditional and self-publishing, and the impor…
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Grab a copy of Husk Join Nathan's author newsletter Join Nat's author newsletter Nat shares his experience receiving the first paperback copies of his upcoming sci-fi novel, Husk, and discusses his strategic approach to pricing across different formats - from hardcover to ebook to audiobook. The conversation explores how Amazon's various platforms,…
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David is the Head of AI Product at Figma and gave me an exclusive demo of Figma Make, Figma’s new AI prototyping tool. We had a great chat about how Make stands out from other tools and how it works under the hood, including a deep dive on evals. This episode is brought to you by Merge — Merge gives SaaS companies like Ramp and Drata a single API t…
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Colin Matthews has taught 1000+ students on how to prototype apps with AI. In this interview, we demoed the best AI coding tools for each use case - from prototyping to production apps. This episode is brought to you by Vanta — Join 9K+ companies like Atlassian who use Vanta to manage risk and prove security in real-time. Get $1000 off at https://v…
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Nat and Nathan discuss strategies for building an audience as authors, focusing on the importance of understanding the difference between attracting writers and readers. They explore content strategies, the significance of engagement, and the role of social media in audience building. The conversation also delves into the effectiveness of short-for…
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Sahil is the founder, investor, and New York Times bestselling author of The Five Types of Wealth. In our chat, he shares some profound life lessons that will be a wake-up call for any high achiever in tech and exactly how he grew to 1M+ followers.Timestamps:(00:00) The one thing high-achievers are missing (02:58) The five types of wealth that crea…
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