Best PBIS Podcasts (2025)

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GRADED: PBIS- Positive Behavior Interventions & Supports 21:43

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17d ago21:43

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⭐️ Want support with real-world strategies that actually work on your campus? We’re doing that every day in the School for School Counselors Mastermind. Come join us! ⭐️ ********************************** PBIS is implemented in over 25,000 schools. Your district swears by it. But does it actually help kids- or just make the data look better? In thi…

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Peacefully Productive Kids with Hilda Guerrero 39:02

3d ago39:02

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Host Jethro D. Jones talks with teacher Hilda Guerrero about her "Peacefully Productive Kids" program, which helps students develop emotional regulation, empathy, and conflict resolution skills. Hilda shares practical strategies and resources she created after working with a challenging student, and discusses her mission to make social-emotional le…

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Defiance vs. Dysregulation: The Split-Second Call That Changes Everything 31:25

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The radio call comes in. A student’s refusing to move, and suddenly, everyone’s looking at you to fix it. Here’s what nobody ever told us in grad school: defiance and dysregulation can look the same from the outside, but they require completely different responses. This episode gives you a clear, evidence-based way to figure out the difference, mat…

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GRADED: Behavior Intervention 21:28

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⭐️ Want support with real-world strategies that actually work on your campus? We’re doing that every day in the School for School Counselors Mastermind. Come join us! ⭐️ ********************************** You’re not a behavior specialist. You’re not a Tier 2 team of one. And you’re definitely not the defiance whisperer. But… if you’re stuck dealing…

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Leading Change that Lasts with Dr. Kelly Hastings 31:25

12d ago31:25

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Nearly a year ago, Dr. Kelly Hastings interviewed Jethro on this show to talk about Saboteurs. It’s high time we get her on the show to talk about her work. SCALE Framework: Set the vision and team with clarity and purpose Create the script that drives aligned, actionable change Act and communicate effectively with your entire community Learn, list…

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Preparing Teachers for the Real World: A Conversation with Dr. Greg Rockhold 53:13

17d ago53:13

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Send us a text In this episode, Dr. Paulie welcomes back Dr. Greg Rockhold, a seasoned educator and leader with nearly 30 years of experience and service, including on the Board of Directors of the National Association of Secondary School Principals. Known for his thought-provoking LinkedIn posts, Dr. Rockhold joins to discuss one of his most press…

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Throwbacks: Elephants Fighting with Naphtali Hoff 23:30

18d ago23:30

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Naphtali Hoff is an executive coach, organizational consultant, trainer, writer & speaker. How to come back from making a mistake. Think big picture. If you don’t create the right foundation, then you will spend far less time helping kids than When elephants fight, it’s the grass that gets trampled. - Rick Lavoie Where you can support the vision Ev…

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GRADED: Calm Corners 22:27

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Are calm corners helping students regulate... or just giving them a softer way to opt out? In this episode of Graded, I take a hard look at one of the most popular SEL approaches in schools today: calm corners. You’ll hear what the research says, what most campuses are getting wrong, and what grade calm corners really deserve. Plus, I respond to a …

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Reject the Premise, Part 4 with Danny Bauer 52:29

26d ago52:29

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In this episode, Jethro and Danny continue their "Reject the Premise" series, a collaborative book-writing and podcast project. They discuss challenging traditional assumptions in education, focusing on reimagining school leadership, student development, and the real purpose of education. Links to Parts 1-3: Reject the Premise 1: Podcasts Link Reje…

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Ep. 52: The Fundamentals of Data-based Decision Making 40:41

1M ago40:41

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In this episode, we continue the conversation around our year-long theme: Data in PBIS. Collecting data is an important step in your PBIS implementation. Using data to drive decisions is how those data truly come alive. How do you do that? Well, the Team Initiated Problem Solving (TIPS) framework is the only scientifically-based data-based decision…

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Education Test Kitchen 30:16

1M ago30:16

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In this episode of Transformative Principal, Jethro Jones welcomes three inspiring guests to discuss the origins and impact of the Test Kitchen Education Foundation in Fort Madison, Iowa. Brent Zirkel shares how the foundation was created to blend culinary arts with education, providing students with essential life and academic skills. Kumar Withan…

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Should Teachers Be Ashamed? Dr. Gavoni and Dr. Cubbin Square Off 1:02:16

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Send us a text In this episode of The Heart & Science of Leadership Podcast, Dr. Paulie Gavoni sits down with veteran educator Dr. Michael L. Cubbin for a spirited debate on classroom leadership. The conversation was sparked by Cubbin’s critique of Paulie’s article on establishing expectations during the first week of school, and by his own provoca…

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GRADED: School Counseling Advocacy 25:13

1M ago25:13

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Ever walked out of an “advocacy meeting” with your admin and thought, Is anything ever going to change? You brought the data. You showed the charts. You quoted the position statements. And still, you walked away with the same ridiculous caseload, or worse- another responsibility placed on your shoulders. All that effort doesn’t move the needle. It …

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Practical AI with Derek Crager 30:18

1M ago30:18

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In this episode, Jethro interviews Derek "DC" Crager, a passionate advocate for making artificial intelligence accessible, especially for the neurodiverse community. DC shares his personal experiences as an autistic individual and discusses how AI can empower people with autism, ADHD, and dyslexia to enhance their skills and independence. The conve…

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Being vs. Doing with Dr. Chad Dumas 40:10

2M ago40:10

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In this episode of Transformative Principle, host Jethro Jones welcomes back Dr. Chad Dumas, international consultant and author of "The Teacher Team Leader Handbook." Together, they explore the crucial distinction between who you are and what you do as a leader, emphasizing the importance of authenticity, integrity, and coherence in educational le…

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GRADED Recap: The Best & Worst of School Counseling 33:29

2M ago33:29

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What if the tools you’ve been told to use as a school counselor are actually working against you? In this highlights reel, I’m recapping eight of the field’s most popular practices and giving you the real verdict on each. You’ll hear the truths nobody disputes, the traps that keep counselors spinning their wheels, and the takeaways you can actually…

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GRADED: Confidentiality 22:46

2M ago22:46

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"What you say in here, stays in here…” We’ve all said it, but it’s a promise that never came from schools, and it’s costing us trust with students, parents, and administrators. In this Graded episode, I examine how near-absolute confidentiality has been implemented in school counseling, the fallout it’s created, and why the grade I’m giving it migh…

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Coaching Over Evaluation with K.C. Knudson 34:45

2M ago34:45

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In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones sits down with K.C. Knudson, MTSS Coordinator at the Northwest Educational Service District, to explore the critical distinction between coaching and evaluation in education. Drawing on research and real-world experience, K.C. shares why 98% of teachers need coaching—not evaluation—and …

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Turning Around a Failing School District with Superintendent Dr. Rick Surrency 49:34

2M ago49:34

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Send us a text In this episode, Dr. Paul “Paulie” Gavoni sits down with Dr. Rick Surrency, Superintendent of Putnam County Schools in Florida, to explore how one of the lowest-performing districts in the state transformed into a model of success. When Dr. Surrency took office in 2016, Putnam County Schools faced daunting challenges: a graduation ra…

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Ep. 51: Why Data Matter in PBIS 58:45

2M ago58:45

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This episode kicks off PBISApps’ 2025–26 school year theme: data in PBIS. Our guest today is a true PBIS pioneer: Dr. Rob Horner. Dr. Horner is an emeritus professor at the University of Oregon and a key figure in developing PBIS. He brings with him a 40-year history of research, grant management, and systems change efforts related to school reform…

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GRADED: Minute Meetings 29:54

2M ago29:54

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Minute meetings look great on a spreadsheet. But do they actually help kids? In this episode of Graded, I dig into where this practice really came from, the myths we’ve built around it, and the risks nobody’s talking about, and I’ll share what to do instead. Minute meetings have taken on near-folklore status in school counseling. They’re all over P…

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How to Stop Sounding Like Every Other School with Kristian Golick 35:23

2M ago35:23

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In this episode of Transformative Principal, host Jethro Jones interviews Kristian Golick, founder of EduCreative, about how schools can stand out by uncovering and communicating their unique culture and emotional truth. They discuss the importance of storytelling in school marketing, the process of identifying a school's key differentiator, and ho…

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GRADED: Check In, Check Out 16:18

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What if the behavior approach everyone swears by is actually making some kids worse? Check-In/Check-Out (CICO) is one of the most common Tier 2 interventions in school counseling, but most trainings leave out the detail that decides whether it works or fails. In this episode, I share the research, the hidden limitation no one’s talking about, and t…

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Building Sustainable Systems in Schools with Patrick Mongrain 34:02

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In this episode, Jethro Jones welcomes Patrick Mongrain, a middle school teacher, instructional coach, and restorative justice specialist, to discuss building sustainable systems in education. Patrick shares his “Moneyball” approach—leveraging data and analytics to improve classroom instruction and teacher support. He emphasizes the importance of m…

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Hope Out of the Pandemic with Derek Mitchell 30:49

2M ago30:49

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In this episode, host Jethro Jones welcomes Derek Mitchell, CEO of Partners in School Innovation, to discuss the evolving role of schools post-pandemic, the importance of community partnerships, and innovative solutions to chronic challenges like truancy. Derek shares insights on leadership, the need for equity-centered school improvement, and prac…

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GRADED: Small Group Counseling 21:36

2M ago21:36

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Small group counseling gets pushed as the fix for everything. But what if we’re getting it wrong? In this episode: Why “ASCA-aligned” doesn’t mean effective The real reason group work is overused How to spot a pretty curriculum with zero impact Plus, a student story that stopped me in my tracks. If you’ve ever run a group just to prove you’re doing…

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The Feedback Loop: How Student Surveys Shape Better Classrooms with Tana Stanley 36:15

3M ago36:15

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Send us a text In this episode of The Crisis in Education Podcast, Dr. Paul "Paulie" Gavoni sits down with three-time District Teacher of the Year finalist, Tana Stanley, to explore a critical and often overlooked element of classroom success—student voice. They dig into how giving students opportunities to provide feedback through structured surve…

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GRADED: Use-of-Time Data 20:14

3M ago20:14

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You know that feeling when it’s Friday, and you can’t even explain what you did all week? Use-of-time tracking is supposed to help- but too often, it feels like just another way to keep school counselors in check. This week on Graded, we’re pulling apart one of the most pushed- but least supported- tools in school counseling. We’ll talk about: Why …

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AI Standards and Cybersecurity Education for Kids with Sam Bourgeois 28:56

3M ago28:56

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In this episode, host Jethro Jones discusses the crucial topic of AI and cybersecurity with Sam Bourgeois, an experienced IT director with a background in private industry and education. The conversation covers the importance of AI standards, the ethical implications of AI use, and the need for cybersecurity awareness among young people. Sam introd…

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GRADED: Needs Assessments 21:50

3M ago21:50

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Needs assessments are everywhere in school counseling, and they're especially enticing when you’re just starting out. They feel like the smart, strategic thing to do. But what if they’re just giving you more to carry? In this episode, we’re taking a hard look at needs assessments: who’s pushing them, why they’ve become the go-to starting point, and…

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The Role of Coaching in Dissertation Success with Dr. Jayne Lammers 37:28

3M ago37:28

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In this episode, Jethro Jones talks with Dr. Jayne Lammers, a dissertation coach, about the importance of having systems and support to complete a dissertation. They discuss Dr. Lammers' experience, the role of a dissertation coach, and various strategies such as weekly accountability check-ins, peer exchanges, and 'shut up and write' sessions to h…

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The (New) Age of Software in Schools 1:00:52

3M ago1:00:52

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In this episode, Jethro Jones and Damon Hargraves discuss innovative software solutions tailored for educational purposes. They share insights on the impact of AI and other emerging technologies on school environments, the conception of customized applications, and the future of software development in schools. LinkedLeaders: You need support. Get …

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From Classroom to Career: Using PBIS to Support Adults with Disabilities with Dr. Keith Storey 33:04

3M ago33:04

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Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Paulie sits down with Dr. Keith Storey—Professor Emeritus, BCBA-D, and lifelong educator—to explore how PBIS (Positive Behavioral Interventions and Supports) isn’t just for schools. They break down how the same strategies that support students in classrooms can be used to empower people with dis…

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GRADED: Short-Term Counseling 11:43

3M ago11:43

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We’ve all been told school counseling should be short-term and goal-focused, and most of us have tried to follow that rule: running six-week groups, setting goals, and wrapping things up quickly. But when those same students show up in your office again weeks later- or their behavior backslides the moment your group ends- you’re left wondering: Was…

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The Importance of Literacy with Erin Bailey 35:10

3M ago35:10

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In this episode, Jethro Jones hosts Erin Bailey, Vice President of Literacy Programs and Research at Reading is Fundamental, to discuss the importance of reading in children's development. They delve into how reading fosters connections, the impact of screen time on reading habits, and effective strategies for schools and families to encourage read…