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Two Think Minimum

Technology Policy Institute

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Podcast of the Technology Policy Institute of Washington, D.C. The Technology Policy Institute is a think tank that focuses on the economics of innovation, technological change, and related regulation in the United States and around the world. Our mission is to advance knowledge and inform policymakers by producing independent, rigorous research and by sponsoring educational programs and conferences on major issues affecting information technology and communications policy.
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Scaling Laws

Lawfare & University of Texas Law School

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Scaling Laws explores (and occasionally answers) the questions that keep OpenAI’s policy team up at night, the ones that motivate legislators to host hearings on AI and draft new AI bills, and the ones that are top of mind for tech-savvy law and policy students. Co-hosts Alan Rozenshtein, Professor at Minnesota Law and Research Director at Lawfare, and Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas and Senior Editor at Lawfare, dive into the intersection of AI, innova ...
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Innovation Files: Where Tech Meets Public Policy

Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF) — The Leading Think Tank for Science and Tech Policy

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Explore the intersection of technology, innovation, and public policy with the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation (ITIF), the world’s leading think tank for science and tech policy. Innovation Files serves up expert interviews, insights, and commentary on topics ranging from the broad economics of innovation to specific policy and regulatory questions about new technologies. Expect to hear some unconventional wisdom.
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Regulating how AI is used—not how it's built—is the only way to protect innovation and give small startups a fair shot. Rob and Jackie sit down with Matt Perault, Head of Artificial Intelligence Policy at Andreessen Horowitz, to discuss the significant burden regulatory frameworks can place on smaller tech companies and the critical role of governm…
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In this episode of Scaling Laws, Alan and Kevin discuss the current state of AI growth, focusing on scaling laws, the future of AGI, and the challenges of AI integration into society with Ethan Mollick, Professor of Management at Wharton, specializing in entrepreneurship and innovation. They explore the bottlenecks in AI adoption, particularly the …
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On the inaugural episode of Scaling Laws, co-hosts Kevin Frazier, AI Innovation and Law Fellow at the University of Texas School of Law and a Senior Editor at Law, and Alan Rozenshtein, Professor at Minnesota Law and Research Director at Lawfare, speak with Adam Thierer, a senior fellow for the Technology and Innovation team at the R Street Institu…
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Scaling Laws explores (and occasionally answers) the questions that keep OpenAI’s policy team up at night, the ones that motivate legislators to host hearings on AI and draft new AI bills, and the ones that are top of mind for tech-savvy law and policy students. Alan and Kevin dive into the intersection of AI, innovation policy, and the law through…
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Continued innovation and investment is vital to maintaining the U.S.'s leadership in the biopharma sector. Rob and Jackie sit down with Andrew Geall, Chief Development Officer at Replicate Bioscience, and Deborah Barbara, strategic advisor to Primrose Bio, to discuss the development and potential of mRNA as the fourth pillar of pharmaceutical innov…
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There is a clear linkage between technology and national security, economic strength and social stability. Rob and Jackie sit down with Alex Capri, author of Techno-Nationalism: How It's Reshaping Trade, Geopolitics and Society to discuss how nations leverage technological innovation for national security and stability and how that applies to evolv…
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In the inaugural episode of the Information Technology and Innovation Foundation's Trade War Podcast, host Stan McCoy discusses recent developments and challenges in global trade policy with Ambassador Susan C. Schwab and Rob Atkinson. The conversation covers the latest U.S. tariffs on steel and aluminum, the implications of President Trump's prote…
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On the latest episode of Two Think Minimum, Gordon Crovitz, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of NewsGuard joins hosts Tom Lenard, Sarah Oh Lam, and Scott Wallsten to discuss the evolving landscape of news credibility, misinformation, and the role of media ratings. They discuss NewsGuard’s approach to assessing news sources, the controversies surrounding its r…
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What is the correct economic strategy for a nation? Rob and Jackie sat down with Marc Fasteau and Ian Fletcher, authors of Industrial Policy for the United States, to discuss how industrial policy, done right, will develop the kind of economy the United States wants. Mentioned Marc Fasteau and Ian Fletcher, Industrial Policy for the United States, …
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Nicolas Petit, Chair in Competition Law at the European University Institute, joins hosts Tom Lenard, Scott Wallsten, and Sarah Oh Lam to explore the pressing challenges facing European competitiveness. Drawing insights from the recent Draghi Report, Petit discusses Europe's innovation gaps, the role of big tec…
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On the latest episode of Two Think Minimum, TPI hosts Tom Lenard, Sarah Oh Lam, and Scott Wallsten explore the world of polls and prediction markets with Aristotle CEO John Phillips and General Counsel David Mason. Aristotle helps run PredictIt, a platform which enables research into how markets can forecast events in real-time. The conversation co…
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Data-informed and evidence-based decision making can drive optimum outcomes in local governments. Rob and Jackie sat down with Rochelle Haynes, managing director of What Works Cities, to discuss how technology and innovation are being used in cities to equitably deliver services and solve problems. Related Rochelle Haynes, “How Cities Can Harness t…
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Europe has been enormously unsuccessful in creating substantial digital businesses for over three decades. Rob and Jackie sat down with David Evans, chairman of Market Platform Dynamics, to discuss why it’s imperative that Europe ends this ‘digital winter’. Mentioned David S. Evans, “Why Europe Must End Its 30-Year Digital Winter to Ensure Its Long…
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It’s easy to get excited about new breakthroughs, but the real power lies in diffusing technological advances throughout the entire economy. Rob and Jackie sat down with Jeffrey Ding, Assistant Professor of Political Science at George Washington University, to discuss how technological revolutions influence competition and the implications for the …
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Please note we are taking a break between episode releases. Follow us @TI_Pod or hop onto our Discord for information on when we’re coming back. Thanks and enjoy the summer! (or winter, or wherever works for where you live) Standby by for an announcement from the Arbiter of Marwen! Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social …
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Over the last several years, public opinion on technology and the use of data has shifted from excitement to skepticism to fear. Rob and Jackie sat down with Daniel Castro, Vice President of ITIF and Director of the Center for Data Innovation, to discuss the negative effect of techlash on human outcomes. Related Robert D. Atkinson and David Moschel…
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Marwen shopping leads the gang to a very important question…are bird of paradise plants regal or goofy? Birds of Paradise Reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/8lw7mh/im_37_years_old_and_just_today_realized_its/ Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Websi…
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The future will be much improved if society fights the fear of technology. Rob and Jackie sat down with Jim Pethokoukis, Senior Fellow and DeWitt Wallace Chair at the American Enterprise Institute, to discuss how the sci-fi fantasy of the future isn’t as far off as we think. Mentioned James Pethokoukis. The Conservative Futurist: How to Create the …
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We start…somewhere a little different. Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Website: takinginitiativepodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/TI_Pod Discord: https://discord.gg/VS7F3Hd Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/takinginitiativepodcast YouTube: https://www.youtub…
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Ellen P. Goodman, a distinguished professor of law at Rutgers Law School and former Senior Advisor for Algorithmic Justice at NTIA, U.S. Department of Commerce discusses artificial intelligence accountability policy. The podcast revolves around the NTIA AI Accountability Policy Report, which was released in Mar…
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The party shares some tightly held secrets and Honey shows her full asshole. Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Website: takinginitiativepodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/TI_Pod Discord: https://discord.gg/VS7F3Hd Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/takinginitiat…
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Climate change is a global problem, with two polarized viewpoints making it difficult to find a solution. Rob and Jackie sat down with Robin Gaster, Director of Research at ITIF's Center for Clean Energy Innovation, to discuss how price/performance parity in green technologies can bridge the gap between left and right viewpoints on clean energy. Me…
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, MIT Professor Catherine Tucker discusses her research on competition policy and artificial intelligence. The discussion focuses on how AI's unique cost structures differs from that of traditional digital economics, how economists think about AI, and the implications of AI for competition policy and antitrust en…
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In this episode of Two Think Minimum, Caroline Cecot, an associate professor of law at Antonin Scalia Law School at George Mason University, talks about her recent article "The Meaning of ‘Silence.’" The discussion focuses on the potential consequences of narrowing the applicability of the Chevron doctrine and consequences on the major questions do…
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After traveling through the Floating Lakes, the party finally reaches Marwen: The Town of Rules. Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Website: takinginitiativepodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/TI_Pod Discord: https://discord.gg/VS7F3Hd Twitch: https://www.twi…
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The past few years have seen a remarkable rise in the quality and quantity of deepfakes. Rob and Jackie discussed the rise of deepfakes with Ryan Long, Vice-Chairman of the California Lawyers Association, Licensing and Technology Transactions Group, Intellectual Property Section, and explored how to harness this technology responsibly while prevent…
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It’s time from some good ol’ fashioned holiday whoop-ass. Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Website: takinginitiativepodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/TI_Pod Discord: https://discord.gg/VS7F3Hd Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/takinginitiativepodcast YouTube:…
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As the party encounters a winter wonderland amidst the Floating Lakes, Añara opens up to the party about her secret. Also, we talk about bad Netflix shows for a loooong time. Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Website: takinginitiativepodcast.com Twitter: https://…
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The term ‘supply chain’ is relatively new, but the activities involved are not as new as we think. Rob and Jackie sat down with Yossi Sheffi, Director of the MIT Center for Transportation and Logistics, to discuss the complex history of supply chains and how technology and AI will continue to evolve supply chain processes in the future. Mentioned Y…
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The latest episode of the TPI Two Think Minimum podcast featured guest Megan McArdle, discussing pressing issues at the intersection of technology and society. The podcast covered several topics related to technology, policy, and societal impact, emphasizing the need for careful consideration of the implications of technological advancements and re…
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Last week the House of Representatives overwhelmingly passed a bill that would require ByteDance, the Chinese company that owns the popular social media app TikTok, to divest its ownership in the platform or face TikTok being banned in the United States. Although prospects for the bill in the Senate remain uncertain, President Biden has said he wil…
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Today, we’re bringing you an episode of Arbiters of Truth, our series on the information ecosystem. On March 18, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments in Murthy v. Missouri, concerning the potential First Amendment implications of government outreach to social media platforms—what’s sometimes known as jawboning. The case arrived at the Supreme Cou…
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The party bids farewell to Bludwyn and finds out information about the place they’ve been thrown into, as well as information about each other. Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Website: takinginitiativepodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/TI_Pod Discord: htt…
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Amidst the burgeoning advancements in autonomous vehicles (AVs), striking a balance between expectation and reality emerges as a challenge. Rob and Jackie sat down with Richard Mudge, president and founder of Compass Transportation and Technology, to discuss how innovations in the world of AVs can affect safety, productivity, and job creation. Ment…
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Content Warning: Vomiting / Retching sounds. After successfully defeating the Skull Fairies, the party returns to the otter fey and make Braith take a bath. Feel free to drop us a review on iTunes and chat with us on social media & Discord. You can find "Taking Initiative" at: Website: takinginitiativepodcast.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/TI_Pod…
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