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S11 E203: A Burgeoning Movement Across The Country To Fight Back And Build Something Better: Ben Wikler Talks About What's Next
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1:04:22Ben Wikler returns to the show again in this wild political moment both locally and nationally. As he is stepping out of his role as Chair of Wisconsin Democratic Party he is energized by a recent state Supreme Court win. Dr. Gee asks him about how the Black community fits into the vision of the Democratic Party in the current environment. Are Blac…
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S11 E202: "Now The Role Will ALWAYS Be Black!": - Revealing The True Colors Of Wicked With Broadway and TV Star Angela Robinson Whitehurst
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1:12:32Angela Robinson Whitehurst returns to the show to bring her Broadway experience to discussing Wicked and the translation from stage to screen. Dr. Gee and Angela discuss the timing of seeing race brought to the forefront of this version of Wicked, compared to when the stage musical was first a part of our culture. The power of fantasy and musical s…
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S11 E201: Things That Make You Go... S*** With Lilada Gee
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1:04:43Dr. Alex Gee and his sister commiserate on some things lately that make them wonder what is going on - things that make them say "Hmmm..." You won't want to miss this honest conversation full of some real talk that explores some serious issues in their lives right now. These two leaders let you in some topics that make them a bit annoyed. And you a…
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It's Season 11! And it's the 200th episode! This occasion calls for something special. Dr. Gee brings starts the season with his signature Mic Check to set the tone. He speaks to this moment with a spoken word poem and some commentary on what these times mean for us all. Dr. Gee lays out a call to audacity. Listen up! alexgee.com Support the Show: …
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S10 E199: “Will The Report Change Anything?”: Dr. Angela Byers-Winston and Ray Allen Discuss Systemic Change For The Black Experience On A University Campus
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1:12:29Dr. Gee returns to the discussion of his involvement in a university report on the Black Community Experience at the University of Wisconsin–Madison. In episode 188 he discussed the upcoming report with UW-Madison Chancellor Jennifer Mnookin and now that the report is public, he is joined by fellow board members on the ad hoc committee. Dr. Angela …
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S10 E198: Revealing The Secrets Of The Universe With Trailblazing Astronomer Eric Wilcots
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1:13:44Dr. Gee returns to the topic of a childhood fascination with astronomy as he takes a journey through the cosmos with Eric Wilcots, University of Wisconsin-Madison dean of the College of Letters & Science and Professor of Astronomy. Both began their interest in astronomy at a young age with the same model of telescope. Professor Wilcots explains how…
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S10 E197: Ending The Cycle Of Police Violence With Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison
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1:05:27Dr. Gee has an honest discussion with author and Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison. Their conversation starts with southern cooking and how food provides insights into our histories and continues into how race relations impact policing. Ellison has written a book about his experience leading the prosecution when the Derek Chauvin case came t…
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S10 E196: "I’m Not Going To Wait For Them To Write The History," Pulitzer Prize Winning Author And Cultural Commentator Leonard Pitts Discusses His New Novel 54 Miles
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1:11:52Dr. Gee and Leonard Pitts discuss bringing American history to life in order to reclaim the role of Black people in the development of the nation. Both men share the power of story to display the experience of the Black community in history and today. Leonard speaks to the Black experience through journalism, academic scholarship, commentary, and h…
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S10 E195: A Letter To A Black Brother: Marquis Hunt Calls Young Black Men To A Greater Narrative
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1:13:07Dr. Gee starts his conversation with faith leader and professional musician Marquis Hunt by talking about addressing young Black men to understand that they do have voice that can matter. Marquis wrote a letter to a “Black Brother” as “a call to every Black man who’s ever felt overlooked, undervalued, or trapped in a system that wasn’t built for us…
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S10 E194: "How Do I Operate In This Reality?": A Raw Post-Election Conversation With Dr. Gee and Jeremy Holiday
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54:11Dr. Alex Gee has a special episode to talk through and process the recent election from his perspective. He is joined by Black Like Me producer Jeremy Holiday for a raw conversation that seeks to break down first thoughts on how community and justice minded people look ahead in our current landscape. They share their raw feelings and reflections in…
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S10 E193: The Shape Of My Eyes: Finding Cross Cultural Healing and Hope With Spiritual Leader and Author Dave Gibbons
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1:09:08Hear about how spiritual leader and author David Gibbons felt that he wrote his memoir as a way to process his life and his experience, calling the book The Shape of My Eyes. In an honest conversation, Dr. Gee and David break down what “model minority” means for Asian Americans and African Americans. They consider how this concept also worked towar…
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S10 E192: Live Event with Special Guests Bianca Martin and Lilada Gee
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1:20:10Dr. Gee hosts a special episode recorded live with an audience and a young jazz group in summer 2024 at Cafe Coda in Madison, WI. The night was a celebration of the 10th season of Black Like Me and Dr. Gee brought together Black podcast hosts to talk about their unique position. Bianca Martin hosts the City Cast Madison podcast. She is skilled in a…
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S10 E191: "Grandma's Got A Gun!?": A Forceful History of Black Resistance with Author and Historian Dr. Kelli Carter Jackson
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1:15:13Black resistance to white supremacy is often reduced to a simple binary between Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s nonviolence and Malcolm X’s “by any means necessary.” Dr. Gee discuss how in her book, We Refuse, historian Kellie Carter Jackson urges us to move past this false choice, offering an unflinching examination of the breadth of Black responses …
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S10 E190: If You Want A Place To Be More Diverse, Someone Has To Stay: President Of The American Bar Association (ABA) Michelle Behnke Is The Change She Wants To See
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1:11:13Dr. Gee talks to Michelle Behnke about how she is motivated by the commitment of the The American Bar Association (ABA) to make the nation and their community better. Michelle is inspired by the ABA's mission of defending liberty and pursuing justice through professional development throughout the nation. They discuss how to encourage Black people …
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S10 E189: “Let’s Watch What Black Women Will Do,” Ben Wikler Brings The Inside Story Of Black Women In The Presidential Campaign
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52:11Hear the inside story on the transition from Joe Biden to Kamala Harris as the presidential candidate from Ben Wikler, Chair of the Wisconsin Democratic Party. Ben considers how Harris has been active as the Vice President and making energetic appearances but the broader media has chosen not to report on this angle of Harris until her presidential …
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S10 E188: Looking To The Future By Reckoning With The Past With UW-Madison Chancellor Jennifer Mnookin: Part 1
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54:46Dr. Gee has an in-depth conversation with University of Wisconsin-Madison Chancellor Jennifer Mnookin on what the university is doing to improve the sense of belonging for students of color. Their discussion covers Dr. Gee's participation in a committee working to recognize the universities history with students of color and what can be done moving…
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S10 E187: "Say it Loud!": Season 10 Mic Check
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1:03:32Dr. Gee kicks off the new season with his signature mic check episode. Season 10 is going to be big and he is saying it loud! Hear Dr. Gee unfiltered and get a preview of the season. The Black Like Me Podcast is also creating some new opportunities for listeners to connect and interact with the show and other listeners. You can Join the Black Like …
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S9 E186: "I Want To Restore Respect To This Population," Dr. Carey Gleason, M.D. And Dr. Fabu Carter Talk Madison's Cutting Edge, Culturally Innovative Alzheimer's Research
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1:04:55This is the second in a series on Alzheimer’s on both a personal and medical research level, focused on the impact on Black and Indigenous people. Hear about Dr. Gee’s collaboration with University of Wisconsin-Madison’s Alzheimer’s Research Department, including his guests Dr. Carey Gleason, MD and Dr. Fabu Carter. Dr. Carey Gleason shares the sci…
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S9 E185: "We Made A Decisions To Make Memories And Laugh... 'Cause We'd Have The Rest Of Lives To Mourn.": Dr. Gee And Rev. Lilada Talk About Losing Their Mom To Alzheimer's Disease.
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53:30This is the first in a series on Alzheimer’s on both a personal and medical research level, focused on the impact on Black and Indigenous people. Rev. Lilada and Dr. Alex Gee share funny stories about their mother after the effects of Alzheimer’s. They discuss some of the signposts of Alzheimer’s for others dealing with those in their lives They al…
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S9 E184: "Black Bikers Do Community Service...It's In The Charter": Dr. Gee Talks With Wolf Pack Patriarch Nolan Dunham
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54:25Dr. Gee welcomes Nolan Dunham, one of the founders of the Madison chapter of the Black Motorcycle Club. They connected while Nolan was working in the community. He explains the history of why the original Black motorcycle clubs were formed. Nolan also talks about misrepresentations of motorcycle groups with the club’s commitment to the community an…
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S9 E183: "I Didn't Understand How Incredibly White and Segregated Madison Was": Andrea Dearlove Talks About Her Allyship Journey With Justified Anger
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37:58Justified Anger had drastically shifted the experiences and thinking of the white people who have become connected through the educational opportunities. Andrea Dearlove was an early attendee of Justified Anger's Black History for a New Day course and it drastically transformed her personal and professional priorities. She discovered that when whit…
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S9 E182: "What The Hell Are You Doing Working On These White People": The Complexity Of Dealing With Racism As A Social Entrepreneur With Consultant Jim Bower
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1:13:20Dr. Gee talks with the experienced consultant, Jim Bower, about empowering visionary leaders to actually create the social change that they envision. Listen in on the ongoing conversation these two men have about how to approach the cross-cultural work of addressing racism in a local community, in particular through their work in developing The Cen…
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S9 E181: Awareness Of White People Will Have To Shift: 11,000 Court Cases With The Court Observer's Sandi Reinardy and Aaron Hicks
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1:07:30Sandi Reinardy discusses how she and the Court Observer team have developed the program with the goal of holding the court accountable and advocating for a just system. Hear how it is unavoidable to see the impact of race in the courtroom and sentencing process. Sandi shares how the data they collect is used and how the system responds to informati…
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S9 E180: The World I Believed In Never Existed: Creating And Sustaining Justified Anger Change With Rev. Lilada Gee and Harry Hawkins
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1:25:27What was it like to try to create systemic change after the release of Dr. Gee's Justified Anger article? Hear how the article was encroaching on white people’s territory with pushback to maintain the system from guests Rev. Lilada Gee and Harry Hawkins. Mr. Hawkins provides perspective on the release of the Justified Anger article from someone who…
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S9 E179: The Ripple Effect: Justified Anger's Innovative Ways Of Measuring Change With Dr. Karen Reece
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1:14:05Dr. Karen Reece explains Justified Anger's innovative research and strategic approach to Justice centered systems change work. As Justified Anger took off as a movement, Dr. Reece gives insight into the funding of Black-led organizations and the struggle to create long term solutions and change. Dr. Reece clarifies the difference between quantitati…
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