Best Racially Ambiguous Podcasts (2025)

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Both/And: Belonging, Identity, and the Bridge-Building Superpower with Annemarie Shrouder 47:38

6d ago47:38

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Send us a text In this rich and candid episode of Our True Colors, Shawna is joined by Rachel, returning co-host and fellow deep thinker and wonderful guest Annemarie Shrouder, international speaker, facilitator, and bestselling author of Being Brown in a Black and White World. Together, they explore what it means to hold a “both/and” identity—espe…

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Ornamental No More: Dr. Kalya Castillo on Identity, Hypervisibility, and Healing 52:42

20d ago52:42

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Send us a text In this powerful conversation, Dr. Kalya Castillo—a Black and Japanese psychologist and trauma-informed therapist—joins Shawna to explore identity, racial ambiguity, and the lived experiences of multiracial individuals. Together, they unpack what it means to grow up without cultural mirrors, the coded messages around hair and profess…

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Third Culture Stories: Identity, Belonging, and Finding Home with Urmi Hossain 41:59

1M ago41:59

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Send us a text In this episode, Dr. Shawna Gann and Rachel Sadler sit down with Urmi Hossain—polyglot, author, global citizen, and financial services professional—for a deep conversation about identity, cultural complexity, and belonging. Urmi, who describes herself as "Bengali by blood, Italian by birth, and Canadian by law", shares her experience…

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Untapped Leadership: Finding Your Authentic Leadership Identity with Dr. Jenny Vazquez-Newsum 39:02

2M ago39:02

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Send us a text What does it mean to be a leader when traditional leadership models weren’t designed with you in mind? In this episode of Our True Colors, we sit down with Dr. Jenny Vazquez-Newsum, an educator, leadership expert, and founder of Untapped Leaders, to explore how identity shapes leadership. Dr. Vazquez-Newsum shares her journey navigat…

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Sensitive Curiosity: A DEI Leader’s Journey with Marcel De Jonghe 55:27

3M ago55:27

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Send us a text What does it mean to navigate the world as a mixed heritage individual when belonging feels just out of reach? In this episode, Shawna and co-host Kat Aragon welcome Marcel De Jonghe, Head of DEI&B for Europe’s largest local authority, to explore identity, belonging, and the intersections of race and culture. Marcel shares his person…

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Breaking Out of the Box: Multiracial Identity, Monoracism, and Belonging with Dr. Victoria K. Malaney-Brown 45:28

3M ago45:28

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Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode, Dr. Victoria K. Malaney-Brown, a scholar-practitioner at Columbia University and the first-ever Director of Academic Integrity for undergraduates at Columbia College and Columbia Engineering, joins us to explore the nuanced realities of multiracial identity. From her deeply personal poem "Outside of…

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Finding Self in a World of Assumptions: Multiracial Identity and Belonging 42:59

4M ago42:59

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Send us a text In this episode, Shawna Gann is joined by graduate student Brieanna Hairston cohost Rachel Sadler. Together, they explore the complexities of racial identity, inclusion, and belonging through the lens of multiracial and racially ambiguous individuals. Brieanna shares personal experiences growing up in a predominantly White area, navi…

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Mixed-Race Parenting: Insights with Dr. Jenn Noble 49:01

5M ago49:01

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Send us a text In this thought-provoking episode, Shawna sits down with Dr. Jenn Noble, psychologist, educator, and advocate for mixed-race families, to discuss the unique challenges and opportunities in parenting mixed-race children. Together, they explore: The nuances of mixed-race identity and how it shapes a child’s experience. Why starting con…

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Between the Lines: Black Identity, Mixed Race Realities, and a Nation Divided 46:15

5M ago46:15

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Send us a text In this deeply reflective episode of Our True Colors, Shawna and guest Shari Baker dive into the emotional aftermath of the recent presidential election. Together, they unpack the complexities of identity, solidarity, and the nuances of navigating blackness in America. From the broader societal implications of the election to the per…

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Cafecito, Culture, and Connection: The Power of Sisterhood in DEI Spaces 40:42

6M ago40:42

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Send us a text Summary In this engaging conversation, Shawna, Rachel, and Kat introduce Hady Mendez, a DEI expert, who shares her journey and insights on employee resource groups, cultural wisdom, and the challenges of navigating racial identity. The discussion highlights the need for allyship, the evolving understanding of racial categories, and t…

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Authenticity Under Pressure: The Evolving Role of DEI and Mixed-Race Identity 41:44

7M ago41:44

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Send us a text In this insightful episode, Dr. Shawna Gann sits down with DEI experts Lauren Dike and Katrina Liew Wilson for a candid discussion on the shifting landscape of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). The conversation explores the evolving role of DEI in the workplace, the pressures of being a "talking head" in the field, and the chal…

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Beyond Your Zip Code Story: Exploring Background, Bias, and Growth 54:49

7M ago54:49

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Send us a text In this episode, Shawna Gann and Rachel Sadler engage with author Christopher "CJ" Gross, an expert in cultural transformation, to discuss the concepts in his book, What's Your Zip Code Story? Together the group discusses implications on personal and professional experiences. They explore how one's background and community can shape …

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Meet Kat: Creating Spaces for Underrepresented Voices 35:52

8M ago35:52

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Send us a text In this episode, Shawna Gann introduces the new season of the podcast with one of her two co-hosts, Kat Aragon. They discuss their cultural backgrounds, the importance of representation in the beauty industry, and the need for advocacy and allyship. Kat shares her experiences as a makeup artist and the challenges faced in ensuring di…

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Meet Rachel: Examining Layers of Racial Identity 38:15

8M ago38:15

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Send us a text In this episode, Shawna Gann introduces co-host Rachel Sadler, and together they explore the complexities of racial identity, particularly focusing on the experiences of biracial individuals. They discuss the fluidity of identity, the impact of family dynamics on self-identification, and the societal constructs surrounding race and g…

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Mixed Tape 4: The Close of a Chapter 57:08

2+ y ago57:08

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Send us a text Join the cohosts and me as we reflect on this journey and enjoy the sampler platter we've prepared for you as we talk about the themes we explored, lessons learned, and incredible growth over the years during what we thought would be the last episode. But it's not! OTC is coming back for a 5th season, Fall 2024. Stay tuned! About Thi…

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Belonging and the Gift of Story: Discussions with Joquina Reed 44:01

2+ y ago44:01

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Send us a text This week I am joined by Joquina M. Reed, my colleague and dear friend. She is the founding steward of J Reed Consulting LLC. She is also the curator behind the Please Say Black podcast as well as the Divesting from Whiteness Podcast. Kina is deeply committed to global reparations for chattel enslavement and creating shared humanity.…

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SPECIAL EPISODE: Drama and Identity Dramaturgy with Yolandie Hamilton 24:33

2+ y ago24:33

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Send us a text Yay! Yolandie is back after taking a few months to be with her little one (if you listen carefully, you'll hear a little bit from her, too! 👶). In this episode, Yolandie (and sometimes Olivia) tells us about a play she is working on and the complexities of identity and stereotypes. This all made me very curious and, despite my conges…

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Removing Your Mask to Tell Your Story: Authentic Filmmaking with Dija Henry 33:05

2+ y ago33:05

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Send us a text Prepare to be inspired! On this episode of OTC, I am talking with Dija Henry. Together we discuss her work in film and how the work supports the empowerment of authenticity all the way from the people contributing to the film to those viewing it. We go on to discuss the nuances of having a multicultural family and the connections tha…

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I Belong to Me: Conversations with Velda Thomas 32:41

2+ y ago32:41

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Send us a text On this episode of Our True Colors, I had the opportunity to spend time with Velda Thomas - sharing our thoughts on identity, growth, and belonging. Velda Thomas is the author of Blended: Perspectives on Belonging. She was born and educated in England, UK with family ancestry from Africa, the Caribbean, and the America's. Healing mod…

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Social Justice on the Line: Talking Civil Rights with Joseph Huang-Racalto 34:53

2+ y ago34:53

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Send us a text What a fantastic episode I have for you this week! I am joined by Joe Huang-Racalto, a Civil Rights lobbyist, who works for organizations that defend people who are enslaved in labor and sex trafficking, abused children, minorities living with HIV/AIDS, and humane animal welfare. He retired from Capitol Hill on June 1, 2017 as Chief …

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Multiracial Motherhood with Rach Kass 39:32

2+ y ago39:32

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Send us a text Rach Kass is a Nursing Station Technician (NST), life coach, and podcast host and joins us for this episode to talk about her experiences as the White mother of her five biracial children. Also joining us as a guest host, while Yolandie takes some time with her new little one, is Sarah Bacerra - a two-time former guest on OTC. Rachel…

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Hey, Queen! Talking Racial Ambiguity with Christian Gann and Aimee Amour 43:43

2+ y ago43:43

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Send us a text In this very special episode, I have a one-to-one real-talk session with my son, Christian Gann and his drag persona, Aimee Amour, who is also a DJ in NYC and music producer. In this episode, Christian is back for his second interview on Our True Colors. If you missed the first interview, you can check it out here. It's linked below,…

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The Velvet Punch: Talking Transracial Adoption with Amy Daniels (Part 2) 26:37

2+ y ago26:37

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Send us a text This week we are back with Part 2 of the interview with Amy Daniels. If you missed Part 1, you can check it out here. In this episode, Amy and I continue our conversation about her lived experiences as a Korean woman who was adopted by White parents and what it's meant moving through spaces where people around you have certain expect…

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The Velvet Punch: Talking Transracial Adoption with Amy Daniels (Part 1) 31:40

2+ y ago31:40

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Send us a text This episode is the first of a 2-part interview with my friend, Amy Daniels. I'd been wanting to interview her for a couple of years now, and she happened to be hanging out my place when we were like...let's do this! Amy is a superstar recruiter in the management consulting industry in the DC Metro area - sometimes called the "DMV" s…

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Confronting Anti-Blackness with Daniel Washington 35:32

2+ y ago35:32

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Send us a text Daniel Washington is an I/O Psychology Master's graduate with a passion for Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. He was born in New York City but raised in Atlanta, GA and moved back to New York City in August of 2018 to further his education in I/O Psychology. I received my Master's from Touro College in the summer of 2020. He is now I…

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SPECIAL EPISODE: The Little Mermaid of Color 31:40

2+ y ago31:40

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Send us a text In this special episode of Our True Colors, Yolandie and I discuss Disney's new live action Little Mermaid, starring Halle Bailey as Ariel. Join us for this important conversation about social expectations and redefining norms. REFERENCES The Little Mermaid Trailer AI Technology Making Little Mermaid White Charlotte La Bouff - "Man C…

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Settings and Social Identity with Guest Ashnie Butler 46:44

2+ y ago46:44

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Send us a text After a bit of a summer break, Yolandie and I are back with our guest Ashnie Butler. Ashnie's story starts on the island of Trinidad with roots going back to Southern India. She has lived on the east and west coast of the United States, currently residing in Portland, Oregon, with her non-binary teenager. Her passion for cooking took…

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Kickin' It with Karlton Hoskins 48:25

3y ago48:25

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Send us a text In this episode of Our True Colors, we welcome Karlton Hoskins, #1 International Best Selling Author, Business Owner, Real Estate Investor, and Strategist. In this episode we talk about business and go all the way back to roots. Do NOT miss this fascinating conversation that takes us around the world and back in time. Resources relat…

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3rd Culture Empathy with Payal Beri 33:24

3y ago33:24

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Send us a text In this fantastic episode with Payal Beri, we discuss what it's like living abroad for an extended amount of time as 3rd Culture folks. Along the way we talk about how this has equipped us to be empathetic and applying these life lessons to what we do every day. Come along for the ride! Don't forget to subscribe and follow us on Inst…

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Convos with Sandra Hunter: Stealth Aunties and Metaphorical Changing Rooms 42:09

3y ago42:09

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Send us a text In this intriguing episode of Our True Colors, Sandra Hunter joins us to talk about her work with Wild Women Leaders of Colour and shares her own experiences of identity and "herstory". Together we talk about leaning on each other...and our ancestors...for support as we as women of color navigate space historically dominated by white…

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SPECIAL EPISODE: World v. Wade - Discourse about the Threat to Human Autonomy 35:57

3y ago35:57

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Send us a text I am so happy to welcome back Season 3 Cohost, Carmen Watson, to talk with me about the news of the US Supreme Court overturning Roe v. Wade. I wanted to know her thoughts and perspectives as a Canadian and understand what conversations are happening among our neighbors to the north. Join us for this special episode as we discuss thi…

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You Know What They Say About Making Assumptions...Discussion with Rahimeh Ramezany 37:21

3y ago37:21

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Send us a text In this episode, we talk with Rahimeh Ramezany about identity and making assumptions about who people are and what their lived experiences must be. Rahimeh is a Diversity, Equity, Inclusion, and Intercultural Specialist, whose work is focused on addressing the experiences of marginalized ethnic, racial, and religious communities in t…

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Work-Life Harmony with Ruthie Bowles 39:54

3y ago39:54

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Send us a text Ruthie Bowles is a US Army Veteran, mom to four kids, and lives in Maryland with her family, goats, and chickens. She focuses on bringing awareness to the unethical tactics and strategies in the small business coaching and consulting industry. Ruthie is also an audiobook narrator. She joins OTC this episode to talk about the differen…

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Caught Between Worlds with Dr. Christopher Riddick 34:29

3y ago34:29

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Send us a text While Washington, DC is the city where he resides, Dr. Christopher Riddick is a proud son of North Carolina and hails from the rural county of Gates. His upbringing was significant in shaping his identity and fuels many of his passions today. Dr. Riddick is intent on helping organizations truly exhibit what they frequently say but ar…

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Identity Beyond Chapter Titles with Katrina Strohl 33:37

3y ago33:37

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Send us a text Katrina Strohl (they/them) served as an Aviation Structural Mechanic in the US Navy. In 2018, Katrina decided to take their own life after internalizing the behavior of an unsafe workplace. They now serve others through their work in psychological safety, mental health and boundary strategy for people who share their identities or th…

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Welcome to Season 4 - Meet Yolandie! 35:02

3y ago35:02

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Send us a text Welcome to Season 4 of Our True Colors! I am happy to introduce my co-host for this season, Yolandie Hamilton. She'll be hangin' with us for the season, so get to know a little bit about her in this episode. Yolandie Hamilton is a personal style and confidence coach, mom and proud to be the very interesting mix of Jamaica and Poland,…

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Another "Mixed" Tape: Wrapping up Season 3 33:39

4y ago33:39

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Send us a text Join Carmen and me as we talk about our experiences, what we've learned, and the takeaways from Season 3. Don't forget to subscribe and follow us on Instagram and new for Season 5, check us out on and YouTube and keep up with True Culture on LinkedIn. If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more backg…

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Revisiting Intersectionality with Stefanie Kurgatt 35:36

4y ago35:36

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Send us a text Our guest this week is Stefanie Kurgatt. Stefanie was born in Eldoret, Kenya but moved to the states at a young age and most of her childhood was spent in Tallahassee, Fl. She attended Georgetown University, where she earned her B.S. in Healthcare Management/Policy and M.S. in Health Systems Administration. She holds a great interest…

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The Liberation of Self-Love and Authenticity with Dr. Charletta Wilson 45:04

4y ago45:04

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Send us a text Dr. Charletta Wilson is an industrial & organizational psychologist, an International Coaching Federation (ICF) Certified Professional Coach, Global Team Coach, TEDx Speaker and Certified Dare to Lead™ Facilitator at CaPeesh Consulting LLC. For over two decades, she’s served thousands of clients in business startups, leadership and o…

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Mixed History with Haley and Megan 34:42

4y ago34:42

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Send us a text Haley and Megan are sisters who grew up in rural Louisiana. Haley is now a school psychologist working in South Louisiana. Megan lives in New Orleans and works in the film industry. These sisters love history and started making a list of historical figures who were mixed race a few year ago. Two years ago they decided to turn their l…

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"Calling In" with Nikki Innocent 38:49

4y ago38:49

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Send us a text My guest this week is Nikki Innocent. Nikki is a 2-time TEDx speaker, certified women’s leadership coach, diversity, equity & inclusion (DEI) strategist and the host of the podcast Checkbox Other, that focuses on the journey toward belonging. Five years ago, Nikki left behind her career in corporate America to live and lead fully as …

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Dr. Shantel Buggs on Dating, Technology, and What's to Come for DEI 48:23

4y ago48:23

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Send us a text My guest this week is Dr. Shantel Gabrieal Buggs. Dr. Buggs is an assistant professor of sociology and African American studies at Florida State University, specializing in research on multiracial identity, representation, and romantic, sexual, and family relationships. She is currently working on an edited collection of essays on "q…

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Mixed Up School Daze - Talking Then and Now with Maris Lidaka 46:26

4y ago46:26

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Send us a text Maris Lidaka is a filmmaker in Los Angeles and the creator of the Blended Future Project. Maris talks with me about his experience growing up mixed both in a mostly white suburb but also abroad in high school. This experience allowed him to gain some perspective on race and who he is. Don't forget to subscribe and follow us on Instag…

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Discovering and Embracing Purpose with Natalie Forest 39:38

4y ago39:38

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Send us a text Natalie Forest, Ph.D. an intuitive transformational Mentor with a background in history and teaching. She is a teacher inside and out in all she does. She helps people going through a "midlife crisis" reconnect with their own unique self through addressing "the Hidden Power of Patterns" so that they can finally live their lives, thei…

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Making a Space for Mixed-ness with Life Coach Sarah Lotus Barrett 48:17

4+ y ago48:17

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Send us a text Sarah Lotus Garrett is a life coach working with mixed adults and monoracial parents of mixed children. She was born and raised in northern California and has lived in Northern Italy for the past 15 years. She is a woman, daughter, sister, mother, wife, auntie, friend, world citizen, chef, gardener, creator of beautiful things, a nap…

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Unwrapping the Gift of Dialogue: Race Talk with Meredith and Cindy 38:10

4+ y ago38:10

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Send us a text How was the topic of race handled in your household? Something you've always discussed or an area that typically went untouched? Meredith and Cindy Palomo are a couple living in the Kansas City area. They recently paused a three-year endeavor as foster parents. They're lucky to have three amazing daughters, aged 20, 17, and 3. They h…

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This Land is Our Land: A Message as we Observe Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s Birthday 11:14

4+ y ago11:14

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Send us a text Don't forget to subscribe and follow us on Instagram and new for Season 5, check us out on and YouTube and keep up with True Culture on LinkedIn. If this is your first time with OTC, check out EPISODE 1: START HERE for more background on the show. Our True Colors is sponsored by True Culture Coaching & Consulting. Head to our website…

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Sticks and Stones: Discussing Micro (and Macro!) Aggressions with Daniel Quan-Watson 56:23

4+ y ago56:23

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Send us a text Daniel Quan-Watson, a high-ranking official in Canada's Public Service, has a unique blend of experiences. He's held the highest Canadian civil service position, is fluent in both English and French, has lived in 13 Canadian locations, traveled extensively across the country, authored long-lasting legislation, overseen a prominent Na…

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Unicorns, Inclusion, and Mrs. Tennessee 42:02

4+ y ago42:02

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Send us a text I had the pleasure to welcome the reigning Mrs. Tennessee for 2020 - 2021, Mrs. LaFaye Noel. Not only is LaFaye active in her community and beyond, she speaks of intersectionality, self-esteem, and skills to bring confidence to just about any situation with the wisdom of a mother of four, educator, and a shining example of diversity,…

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Kickin' it with Katie Andresen from Mixed Kid Chronicles 55:03

4+ y ago55:03

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Send us a text Katie Andresen is the host & producer of Mixed Kid Chronicles, a podcast for the mixed up and mixed race. This week my guest is Podcaster Katie Andresen, the creator and host of Mixed Kid Chronicles. She shares her identity story and what it’s been like as a podcaster talking with others. In this Episode we talk about “otherness” ove…

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