A podcast about the feelings, things, practices and methods of running. I interview experts and everyday runners about how they engage with and practice running. This is a new podcast so I’m very keen to hear any thoughts or observations you might have about it. Perhaps you know of someone I should interview: a friend of yours, or, perhaps there is an elite runner out there who you think I should interview. If you would like to get in touch, please send an email to [email protected]
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EDR #75 /This Running Life/ Emma Houchell: "If I couldn't find a running club, I probably wouldn't move because I would then spend all my time running and not make any friends"
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52:10Hello and welcome to Episode #75 of Everyday Runners. I’m Andy Fuller, the host of this podcast and a co-founder of Reading Sideways Press. Thank you to the supporters of this podcast: Bob, Dominic, Nesrine, Levi, Joao, Gianluca and the original Bob. And, a big thank you to the latest supporter of Everyday Runners: Jochem Loos who has made a contri…
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EDR #74: /Athlete Profile/ Bilal Nour: Laughing, Training Hard and Using AI for Race Prep
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49:53Hello and welcome to Episode #74 of Everyday Runners. I’m Andy Fuller, the host of this podcast and a co-founder of Reading Sideways Press. Thank you to the supporters of this podcast: Dominic, Nesrine, Levi, Gianluca, Joao and Bob. And, a special thanks to the latest supporter: Bob Nederpel. Bob has been a regular listener since the start of the p…
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EDR #73 /Atletenprofiel; BIG5/ Friese kracht en jonge benen: het loopverhaal van Vera de Vries
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45:21Hoi en welkom bij aflevering 73 van Everyday Runners! Ik ben Andy Fuller, de host van deze podcast en mede-oprichter van Reading Sideways Press. Super bedankt aan de supporters van deze podcast: Dominic, Nesrine, Levi, Gianluca, Joao en Bob—dank jullie wel! In deze aflevering praat ik met Vera de Vries, een 23-jarige marathonloopster uit Sneek, Fri…
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EDR #72 /BIG5, Running Media/Pim Bijl: Rotterdammer, journalist, athlete
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46:40Hello and welcome to Episode 72 of Everyday Runners. I’m Andy Fuller: the host and a co-founder of Reading Sideways Press. Thanks to the show’s supporters: Dominic, Nesrine, Levi, Gianluca, Joao and Bob who have made a contribution via the Buy Me a Coffee Platform. Thanks to everyone also who has started to follow the podcast on Instagram. This is …
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EDR #71 /Athlete Profile, BIG5/ Merel van der Marel: "You don't know what to expect and that keeps it really fun"
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51:07Hello and welcome to Episode 71 of Everyday Runners. I’m Andy Fuller, the host of this podcast and a co-founder of Reading Sideways Press. Thank you to the supporters of this podcast: Dominic, Nesrine, Levi, Gianluca, Joao and Bob. Your support gives me added enthusiasm in making one episode per week. Or, in the case of this week, about five. This …
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EDR #70 /BIG MILE Preview/ Jack Anstey: “I have good instincts and, during the mile, they take over”
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49:16Hey! And welcome back to Everyday Runners - I’m Andy Fuller, a runner, coach and podcaster based in Leiden, The Netherlands. Thanks to the supporters of this podcast: Dominic, Nesrine, Levi, Gianluca, Joao and Bob. I’m trying to keep this podcast free from advertisements and wholly listener-supported. If you believe that this is a worthy podcast, y…
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EDR #69 /BIG5 Preview/ Emiel Berghout: Heat adaptation (or not), the moustache and YouTube Career
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38:48Welcome to Episode #69: I’m Andy Fuller, the host of Everyday Runners and a co-founder of Reading Sideways Press. I love making this podcast: it is the most satisfying ‘work’ that I have done. And that’s why I want to thank the supporters of the podcast in helping me make it sustainable: Dominic, Nesrine, Levi, Gianluca, Joao and Bob. Dominic is th…
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EDR #68 /Event Preview/ Gouden Spike in Leiden with Norbert Groenewegen
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41:45Yo! Welcome to this special edition of Everyday Runners where we speak with Norbert Groenewegen of Leiden Atletiek and the key organiser of the Gouden Spike (14th June 2025). Norbert shares his perspective on the development of the GS, how it works for Leiden Atletiek, it's place in the Dutch athletics calendar and of course some of the highlights …
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EDR #67 /Race Preview/ Noah Schutte and Cas Kopmels on their preparation for the Gouden Spike
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1:13:15Yo! Welcome to Episode #67 Noah Schutte (episodes #34 & #14) and Cas Kopmels (episode #16) discuss their preparation for Leiden's premier European-level event, the Gouden Spike (Saturday 14th June). We discuss racing for time versus racing for position and when it is handy to have a pacer; Cas's adaptation back into the Netherlands and his maintena…
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EDR #66 /Atletenprofiel/ Martijn Rijsenbrij: Running Blind
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57:36Hoi hoi! Welkom bij aflevering #66 van Everyday Runners. Ik ben Andy Fuller – jouw host – en een van de oprichters van Reading Sideways Press. Het is lente hier – wat betekent: veel wind, af en toe een zonnetje, en natuurlijk zijn mensen weer massaal hun huizen aan het schilderen en verbouwen. Dus als je wat vreemde geluiden op de achtergrond hoort…
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EDR #65 /Running Studies/ Laura Gubby: Women Trail Runners and Feelings of Empowerment and Vulnerability
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49:57This episode features an interview with Dr Laura Gubby of Canterbury Christ Church University. I got in touch with Laura after reading her article, “Women trail runners’ encounters with vulnerability to male harassment in rural off-road spaces”, which she co-authored with Joanne Hill in 2024. I guess I was curious about her research because I wante…
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EDR #64 /Atletenprofiel/ Zeb Beelen: Een echte alleskunner met een vechtersmentaliteit
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40:25Halo en welkom bij aflevering #64 van Everyday Runners. Ik ben Andy Fuller, de host van deze podcast en mede-oprichter van Reading Sideways Press. Zoals je zeker al hebt gemerkt, is dit een speciale aflevering in het Nederlands – iets wat ik misschien vaker ga doen in de toekomst. Allereerst een dikke dankjewel aan de supporters van deze podcast – …
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EDR #63 /Athlete Profile/ The Unstoppable Force That Is Nesrine Leene - Double National Record Holder and 40 Time Marathoner
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44:30It took me a while to get to interview Nesrine Leene, but finally, through a friend of a friend of a friend I got in touch with her. And yes, like my references mentioned, she is quite unstoppable. Nesrine, who was a top level down-hill skier in her youth, switched to long-distance running upon settling down in the absolutely flat Low Lands. So, Ne…
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EDR #62 /Leiden Legend/ Maikel Stolwijk - Everything is True
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58:02Yo! Welcome to Episode #62. This episode features a conversation with Maikel Stolwijk, a two time marathon winner and someone who has run under 2:30 four times. He is friends with half of the city of Leiden. Maikel came over to dinner one evening and then afterwards, we had a chat about how he started to take his running seriously in his mid-30s, a…
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EDR #61 /Running Studies/ Stella Radford: on Running in Colombia & Women Urban Runners in Melbourne
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39:26Yo! Stella Radford is a steeple chase and 5000m athlete who is now getting interested in longer format races (10km and 15km). Stella is currently based in Manizales, Colombia, so we talk about what it is like to train at altitude and in hilly terrain. But I first got in touch with her because of her article, The Spatial Geographies of Women Urban R…
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EDR #60 /Thursday Bonus/ Willemieke Verweij of Tribes Studio
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27:04Willemieke Verweij is the founder of Tribes Studio which has six locations in the Leiden vicinity. Willemieke is a dancer, teacher, triathlete and Hyrox aficianado. Willemieke shares her thoughts about her experience as a dancer, teacher and practitioner of all sorts of kinds of movements - some which are regarded as sport, others as dance. Tribes …
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EDR #59 /This Running Life/ Marit Hiemstra and Agata Cienciala
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53:04Yo, hello! This is a story of a friendship formed through co-running. Agata is a visually impaired runner who lives in Nottingham. Marit is an anthropologist who is doing her PhD at Nottingham Trent University. In this episode Agata and Marit share their stories of running together and how 'blind running' is a co-created practice. We discuss friend…
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EDR #58 /Enschede Marathon Review/ Brent Pieterse - 2:24 and 7th Overall
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54:24Brent Pieterse is a self-trained athlete based in the bustling metropolis of Nieuwkoop (population 29,000). To his own admission, he hadn't yet done his marathon justice. But this time, in Enschede ('the Other Marathon of 13th April') he smashed it. He ran all of his kilometres between 3:20 and 3:29, except for one which crept over to the 3:30 mark…
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EDR #57 /On the Rise/ Igor Ouwerkerk: 8:08 for the 3000m & 3:52 for the 1500m
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40:00Yo! Igor Ouwerkerk is one of the Young Guns of Leiden Atletiek. Like the title of this show indicates, he has smashed out some pretty fancy times in his very short career. Igor has only committed to running over the past two years after previously being pretty serious about his cycling, too. Igor trains with Han Kulker of Leiden Atletiek and as lon…
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EDR #56 /This Running Life/ Pieter-Christaan van Oranje en Daan Hoek
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1:07:53This episode features an interview with Pieter-Christiaan van Oranje and Daan Hoek, both of Leiden Atletiek. The two are long-time running buddies, who got to know each other when PC joined Leiden Atletiek to train under Bram Wassenaar. This is a very lightly edited episode as I wanted to let the episode be a clear representation of how the convers…
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EDR #55 /On the Rise/ Akshaay Swaminathan
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24:20Askhaay Swaminathan is a young athlete on the rise and is based at Leiden Atletiek. He's only be running for two years and is still working out his favourite distances: but he's already got a time of 2:01 for the 800m and has performed well in many youth competitions. In this conversation we talk about how he started running and how he manages his …
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EDR #54 /Running Media/: Annemerel de Jongh: running writer and podcaster
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47:31Annemerel de Jongh's life story is inextricably linked to her life as a runner. She is the author of three books on running, runs a popular running blog and of course is active on Instagram as an influencer. Annemerel is also the host of a (Dutch language) podcast, Have a Good Run, in which she shares her stories of her preparation for the upcoming…
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EDR #53 /Race Review/ Anne Luijten on her CPC and Rotterdam Build
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44:47Anne Luijten reflects on her CPC, which didn't really go to plan. Even pros have bad days. But no problem. The marathon waits for no-one and Anne is taking stock and preparing for Rotterdam, which is happening in a little under a month. Anne also asks Andy about his training and what his approach was for the CPC. They also discuss Anne's podcast wi…
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EDR #52 /Running Plus/ The Waye of the Plogger: interview with Paul Waye of Haarlem, elite-level plogger
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47:49How much rubbish do you see when you go for a run? Red Bull cans, cigarette packets, CapriSun packages, beer bottles, cigarette butts, coffee cups and lids litter our footpaths and urban spaces. Most of the time we leave them on the ground and wait for someone else to tidy things up. Paul Waye, he of the Banana Suit and the aluminium-can mini-skirt…
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EDR #51 /Athlete Profile/ Max Polak: "I had no clue. I just did it. It was just sport."
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47:36Hey! Max Polak, from Papendrecht, went to the US when he was 20 to pursue his running career: running at both Boise State University and Miami University. After a few ups and downs he is now back in the Netherlands and getting stronger in the half-marathon while also putting in some solid performances on the track. Max trains under Bram Wassenaar a…
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EDR #50 /Athlete Profile/ Lysanne Wilkens, 2:38 on debut and on doing running her own way
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44:58Hey, hello! In this episode, Lysanne Wilkens, a freelance journalist and photographer based in Utrecht, joins EDR for a conversation about her running and running life. Lysanne, unexpectedly (for herself) ran 2:38 in the Taipei marathon last year while travelling throughout Asia. Lysanne crossed the finish line looking as if she could have kept goi…
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EDR #49 /Running Media/ Brady Threlfall of Inside Running Podcast
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1:07:03Yo! Hello! Brady Threlfall loves a good yarn. He's the founder of Inside Running Podcast which has become, probably, the most respected running podcast in Australia. Brady (and his numerous co-hosts, but mainly Croker and Moose) have churned out 381 episodes in a row since 2017. Talk about streaks. Brady also has some pretty handy PBs to his name: …
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EDR #48: Live in Schoorl: "Don't let your watch hold you back."
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58:13Yo! Welcome to Schoorl! In this episode, EDR regular Niels Esmeijer and a few of us Pink Hippos discuss our experiences of a training camp we recently had in Schoorl. Conditions were perfect: nice and cool, no rain and no wind. We didn't even have to fly far to get there. Yes, it wasn't at altitude. But it was a very pleasant time outside of normal…
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EDR #47: Addicted to running? How and why we become addicted to running with Toomas Gross
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44:24Hey! We runners often talk about being 'addicted to running'. Sometimes this feels like a bit of an exaggeration: but probably it's true. Running gives us a dopamine hit. We gain 'tolerance' for it, which means we need more for the same hit and then we suffer from withdrawal symptoms when we can't get a score. I discussed this matter of 'running ad…
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EDR #46 The Aesthetics of Athletics: Interview with Erik van Leeuwen, photographer
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56:14Erik van Leeuwen is one of the most prominent and beloved photographers in the Netherlands. If you are a runner and participate in any events, no doubt he has already taken your photograph. Most likely, you are looking in great shape and like the complete package. Erik always makes us look like better runners than what we might actually be. His pho…
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EDR #45: From living the basketball dream to becoming a proper runner: Britt Zappeij on her concussions and sporting transitions
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56:17Hello! Welcome back to Everyday Runners. Britt Zappeij was playing high level basketball - in the Dutch national team and playing college basketball in the States - before a bad run of injuries (concussions and others) brought her basketballing trajectory to an unexpected end. Britt studied hard and got her dentistry degree all the while transition…
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EDR #44: "I'm a runner who is in search of a feeling" - Running and making Everyday Runners podcast. Leon interviews Andy
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37:28Bring it on. Welcome back to Everyday Runners podcast. This is a special episode for the start of Season 2.This episode features Leon Huiszoon (of Leiden Atletiek) interviewing myself (Andy) about how and why I started Everyday Runners. Leon asks me all the big questions: isn't running just essentially meaningless? Why have you started coaching? Ar…
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EDR #43: "It's a nice day out, but someone has to organise the picnic": Learnings from 2024 with Niels Esmeijer (of MTFU Coaching)
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57:47Hey! Welcome to Episode #43 of Everyday Runners. How was your 2024 running year? Heb je iets geleerd? In this episode, I sit down with Niels Esmeijer of MTFU (Pink Hippo) coaching to discuss what we can take away from our year in running (and coaching). Niels speaks about what he learned from his athletes and how this shapes his coaching practice g…
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EDR #42: "I think people love Sifan Hassan despite the fact that she's Muslim", Part Two of Conversation with Jasmijn Rana
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30:34Hey! Hello! Welcome back to Everyday Runners. Jasmijn Rana is a cultural anthropologist at Leiden University who researches sport and the way people move their bodies in the Netherlands. Jasmijn is also a runner (and former kickboxer). I was lucky enough to spend a good hour talking running, training, anthropology matters and Dutch running culture …
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EDR #41: Valencia Marathon Review with Three Superfast Dutch Dudes: Dominic Bersee, Emiel Berghout and Bas ten Dam
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1:02:57Hey! Heb je zin in? Well what a tasty race that was. Dominic Bersee broke 2:20, Emiel Berghout and Bas ten Dam went heartbreakingly close. And all have their own intriguing stories to tell. Emiel: how to turn the marathon around when things looked like they were going pear-shaped and of course how to back from an October marathon (Eindhoven) with o…
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EDR #40: "Jasmijn Rana: how do we move our bodies in social-cultural worlds?" (part one)
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45:49Hey! Hello! Thanks for stopping by. This episode features Assistant Professor Jasmijn Rana of Leiden University. This conversation was prompted by Jasmijn's article, "Gendered Enskilment: becoming women through recreational running" (2002, The Senses and Society, Vol.17, No.3) in which she explores how the way people move their bodies is mediated t…
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EDR #39: "It's just one long block party & five bridges": Rebekah Kennedy and the New York City Marathon
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47:19Hello! And welcome to Everyday Runners Episode #39. This episode features Rebekah Kennedy, a second-time-round guest of EDR. Rebekah is a member of the Central Park Track Club and a friend of the show. I love the way Rebekah speaks about running and how she intertwines it with her memories of New York's geography and her knowledge of the city. In t…
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EDR #38 - 46 Years Running - Peter van der Velden: 55+ Dutch and World Champion
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45:38Hey! Welcome to Episode #38, glad you could stop by for a listen. Maybe you are walking somewhere, on a bus, on a train or riding a bike or running somewhere. I hope things are pleasant where you are. Whatever the case, I hope this podcast brings you a quiet moment. This episode features an interview with a Dutch legend, Peter van der Velden. He us…
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EDR #37: On doing running ethnography in Ethiopia and how to think better about East African running cultures - interview with Michael Crawley
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58:19Hello and welcome to Episode #37! This episode features an interview with Michael Crawley, author of two brilliant books: Out of Thin Air and the very recent To the Limit - both published by Bloomsbury (shout out to them for producing quality non-fiction books, btw). Mike is one of those rare beasts who knows the theoretical jargon, yet doesn't lim…
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EDR #36: The Singular Life of Véronique Chance as Artist-Runner
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57:56Hello and welcome to Episode 36 of EDR. This episode features an interview with Véronique Chance a London-based artist who works with running. For Chance, running is a tool with which to ask questions about geography, the environment, space and our social, cultural and political context (my framing). I enjoyed this conversation a lot for it reminde…
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EDR #35: “If you can run today, then actually, that’s good enough”, interview with Sarah Ackland
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1:00:28Hello and welcome to Episode 35 of Everyday Runners. How do women experience space differently from men? What does it mean to run through a city as a woman? What is this thing with cat calls, harassment and interference of women while running? What is the gendered labor of fear? What does 'running to repair' mean? These are some of the points I dis…
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EDR.#34: “it is what I came for, but it also isn’t what I came for”: Noah Schutte on his debut marathon
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43:09Well, it turns out, it’s true what they say, the marathon is a bit of a difficult nut to crack: even for the elite of us runners. In this episode, I speak with local Leiden legend, Noah Schutte, about his marathon debut, which took place on 20th October 2024. I first interviewed Noah back in Episode 14, way back in July. In that episode, we talk mo…
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EDR #33 Autumn Marathon Season - Marcella Herzog vs Amsterdam Marathon (in Dutch)
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50:29EDR #33: Autumn Marathon Season - Marcella Herzog on her Amsterdam Marathon (in Dutch) Hello and welcome (halo en welkom!) to a special edition of Everyday Runners, I’m Andy Fuller. This episode is in Dutch and features Maaike van Gelder interviewing Marcella Herzog about her Amsterdam Marathon. In the initial discussion about the podcast between M…
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EDR #32: “Running blind”, interview with with Jess MacBeth and Ben Powis
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45:47“For many runners, habitually traversing the same route time and time again is central to the experience of running. More than a series of points on a map, running routes are lived social places made meaningful through repeated cognitive and corporeal interactions with the physical environment (Allen-Collinson and Hockey 2015; Hockey 2006). As Baxt…
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EDR #31: "The best laid (marathon) plans...": Joao and Andy humour each other over their Autumn Marathon performances
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41:45This week’s episode has been a bit slow in coming. I’ve been suffering a little from post-marathon lethargy and confusion as I try and compute my race. So it is. But, nonetheless, this episode features the fellow Everyday Runners - or EDR, as I might abbreviate it to - OG, Joao Seixas. When we did the very first episodes of the podcast, we were ful…
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EDR #30.1 “The biggest factor in you having a great race, is your own patience”: Niels talks with Andy about his Eindhoven marathon preparation
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27:02This episode is based around Niels Esmeijer asking questions about my training and preparation for the Eindhoven Marathon on Sunday 13th October, 2024. Doing this episode is a means to hold myself accountable to how I think I’m feeling now and how I’m aiming to do this race. Niels is one of the persons who I have been in a dialogue with throughout …
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EDR #30: Autumn Marathon Season: with Niels Esmeijer: "Being a part of something bigger"
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40:38This episode, and the next, features a conversation between Niels Esmeijer and myself. Niels is the coach atMTFU, and he is also frequent pacer for athletes to reach their sub-2:30 marathon goals. His own PB is 2:25. Interestingly, he says that he races well when pacing others. But yes, as we keep saying, ‘times are only part of the story’. But, I …
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EDR #29 "Sometimes running is simply a matter of taste", conversation with science writer and runner, Mariska van Sprundel
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57:06Welcome to Episode 29 of Everyday Runners, I’m Andy Fuller. It’s still raining. I’m in the final stages for my Eindhoven marathon preparation. Some of you may have done Berlin. Others may be doing Amsterdam or Melbourne. Autumn is well and truly here. Everyday Runners reached a minor milestone last week with the 3000th download. Just as in running,…
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#28 Anne Luijten, Olympic Marathon Review, “I was just really happy that I succeeded; that I made it”
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46:03Hello and welcome to Episode 28 of Everyday Runners, I’m Andy Fuller, host of the podcast and a co-founder of Reading Sideways Press. This episode features an interview with Anne Luijten, a Dutch Olympic marathoner. Anne was also featured on Episode 12, where I spoke with her about qualifying for the Olympics and her running trajectory up until thi…
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#27.1 Joji: "I'm free to be an asshole in this limited, sporting context of a race"
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23:42Hello and welcome to episode 27.1, I’m Andy Fuller, the host of Everyday Runners and a co-founder of Reading Sideways Press. Firstly: I want to acknowledge the very nice conversations I have had with a few people about this podcast. It does mean a lot and it keeps me focused on staying steady with this project. Secondly, there is a link in this wee…
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