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A panel show where guests discuss current events from the world of carbon removal. Please note that this is the legacy feed for the show from when it was produced by Nori.
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345: Too Many Antiheroes: Climate Chaos, Prestige Television, & the Default to Good
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48:02Fair warning: this episode spoils a lot of (older) media. Antiheroes make for great television. But why are we obsessed with them? Why are they in nearly all prestige dramas? Is this a result of our cultural beliefs, or is it (re)producing a culture of cynical realism? What impacts might it have for politics and climate change? This ascendancy of t…
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344: The Optimal Number of Travel Deaths Is Non-Zero: Carbon Removal Trade-Offs in Scale & Quality
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25:46It's a jarring phrase. There's an even more jarring version of it in this episode. You've been warned. Economists are well-known for gnomic sentences that can sound cruel. For some, that's one of the job's many perks. But that doesn't mean that there isn't some truth in representing decisions as trade-offs. Today is a bonus monologue episode where …
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343: Two Climate People Talk about Their Feelings: Heidi Lim’s New YouTube Channel
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1:10:17You should know about my friend Heidi Lim. She's a leading voice of carbon removal on TikTok. She's been making short-form content for ages but today's show is her first foray into long-form. I have the honor of being her first guest and co-releasing the episode. It is my sincere honor to help Heidi launch her new content on YouTube! We get real in…
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How I Got Into Climate Work and Carbon Removal
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2:44If only there were a podcast that broke down all of the ways climate professionals broke into their industry... Michael Gold is a communications expert and consultant at Word Clouds Consulting and the host of the new podcast, Climate Swings. This show traces guests' stories and explains how they landed a job working on one of humanity's most signif…
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342: Carbon Removal & Appropriations: The US Budget During Trump 2—w/ Erin Burns, Executive Director of Carbon180
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1:01:19Sometimes, we skip right over the life stories of guests. Othertimes, it's everything. Today, it's everything. Returning to the show after several years is Carbon180's Executive Director, Erin Burns. Erin grew up in a coal mining family in West Virginia, got her start in Joe Manchin's Senate office, and has had a long and impactful career in carbon…
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341: The War Below: Critical Minerals, YIMBY for Mining, & the Trade War—w/ Ernest Scheyder, author & journalist
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26:38The clean energy transition sure needs a heck of a lot of mining. What do we do when there are environmental or spiritual costs to getting the materials we need for EVs and batteries? Ernest Scheyder is a Reuters reporter covering critical minerals, and the author of The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives. His repo…
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The Keynesian Beauty Contest: Product-Market Fit in Climatetech & CDR
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13:33Nearly a decade ago, I was introduced to the concept of the Keynesian Beauty Contest. It is one of those concepts that I keep coming back to time and time again. I recently participated in a two-month Product-Market Fit workshop led by Peter Nocchiero of Alternate Future and Koray Parmaks of Carbon Zero Capital. So I've been living and breathing PM…
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340: The Outlaw Ocean: Ocean Iron Fertilization, Seasteading, & the Chilling of American Journalism—w/ Ian Urbina, The Outlaw Ocean Project
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46:12I first heard the idiom "worse things happen at sea" in Monty Python's Life of Brian, and it's true. Ian Urbina has made a career of telling stories of the ocean. From piracy, illegal fishing, and sea slavery to seasteading and rogue carbon removal experiments, he's covered the gamut. How does one continuously report on topics of concern to relativ…
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339: A Good Drink: In Search of Sustainable Spirits—w/ Shanna Farrell, author
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55:24For fans ages 21 and up! It's often hard to know how sustainable or ethical an alcoholic drink is. Very little disclosure is required on most labels, and many of the recipes are proprietary. What is a conscientious drinker to do? Shanna Farrell wrote A Good Drink: In Search of Sustainable Spirits in order to answer this exact question. She and host…
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338: Carbon Security & the Geopolitics of Carbon Removal—w/ Sarah Godek
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50:34What is geopolitics, and has it returned? Did it ever really leave? And how will this affect the future prospects of carbon removal? Today's guest is Sarah Godek, a Washington DC-based international relations researcher. She and Grant Faber co-wrote an article on Carbon-Based Commentary called, "Carbon security and the geopolitics of carbon removal…
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I Made AI-Generated Art and Now I’m Wondering What Is Art Even for?
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15:04My podcasting editing platform Descript informed me of a new integration with ChatGPT where it would make me a custom video. I complied in perhaps the most annoying and meta way possible. That video exists at the end of this podcast, but first, I have thoughts I'd like to share on what this process made me feel and think about. I've heard so many t…
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337: Fired from the Department of Energy: Carbon Removal's DOGE Night of the Soul—w/ Grant Faber, Carbon-Based Consulting
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54:53When you take a major pay cut to work in government, you don't expect unceremoniously fired by the Department of Government Efficiency with a change in administration. But it happened to friend of the show, Grant Faber. Grant Faber was the United States Department of Energy's Direct Air Capture Hubs Program Manager until he was let go as part of th…
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Will You Join the AirMiners Buyers Club?—w/ Adina Mangubat & Tito Jankowski, AirMiners
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28:01There are a lot of companies that want to buy carbon removal and don't have the budget to participate in Frontier or Symbiosis. What are they to do? Until now, they either had to pay expensive consultants or vet projects and contracts themselves and stand by their choices alone. No longer! The new AirMiners Buyers Club could not be arriving at a be…
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336: Will Trees Play a Role in the Future of Carbon Removal?—w/ Lisett Luik, Co-Founder of Arbonics
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43:07Seemingly nothing generates hotter passions in carbon credits than forestry. Can credits count against fossil emissions? Is there enough of it to make a difference? What is the appropriate way of funding it? Today's guest is Lisett Luik, Co-Founder and COO of Arbonics, an innovative forestry company in the Baltic that straddles the line between car…
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335: How Nori Created a Direct Air Capture + Storage Methodology: A Case Study—w/ Radhika Moolgavkar & Rick Berg, Supply at Nori
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1:22:41How do registries create carbon removal methodologies? Who should be involved in the process, and to what degree? How does one balance all of the competing attributes and stakeholders? Today's episode is a show in three parts: First, Nori co-founder and host ofReversing Climate Changeintroduces the context for the main segment which was recorded th…
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How You Can Support the Reversing Climate Change Podcast
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4:45Dear listener, Thank you so much for being a fan of the show. You could be listening to anything with your one wild and precious life and I do not take that for granted. From the bottom of my heart, thank you! Now that the show is independent, I am working to make it financially viable. Can I count on you to help support Reversing Climate Change by…
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334: Is Adopting Children a Climate Solution?—w/ Lauren Gifford, Brandon Bowersox-Johnson, & Chris Tolles
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1:17:23It is sometimes claimed that adoption could be a climate solution. After all, if there are kids needing parents and parents wanting kids, adopting might replace the desire to create more children. Is adoption something we should encourage to reduce environmental risk? Today we have four(!) parents of adopted children on the podcast. Each of them te…
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333: Coproduction & Additionality: How Do We Draw the Line for Carbon Removal?—w/ Grant Faber, Carbon-Based Consulting
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1:01:46Additionality is typically considered a major marker of quality in carbon removal. But what do we do when carbon removal suppliers are producing other types of products and services that make them less dependent upon voluntary carbon market revenue? Perhaps even more importantly, how do we have a productive disagreement on this topic? Bringing up s…
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Why You Should Listen to the Reversing Climate Change Podcast: A Reintroduction!
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7:16Of all of the world's climate podcasts, here is why you should, with your one wild and precious life, listen to Reversing Climate Change. The tl;dr is I am a long-time carbon removal and climate tech entrepreneur who comes from the humanities (rather than science) and I am programming shows on climate unlike what you're likely to hear elsewhere. Sh…
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When Heat Makes Us Angry: Free Will, Determinism, and Compatibilism Under Conditions of Stress
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10:46This is a (Spotify) video excerpt from episode 332 with Clayton Aldern, Senior Data Reporter at Grist and author of The Weight of Nature: How a Changing Climate Changes Our Brains. In this video clip, we discuss how we hold people accountable when the heat has a statistically relevant negative impact on decision-making, impulsivity, etc. If we are …
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332: If Climate Change Can Impact Behavior, How Much Agency Do We Actually Have?—w/ Clayton Aldern, author of The Weight of Nature
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49:09When we think of climate change, we might think of droughts, floods, wildfires, emigration and climate refugees: but what if the call is coming from inside the house? What if it impacts the way we think and act? Today's show is with Clayton Aldern, Senior Data Reporter at Grist and author of The Weight of Nature: How a Changing Climate Changes Our …
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331: The Future of Wildfire Prevention: Data, Insurance, & The Los Angeles Disaster—w/ Allison Wolff, CEO of Vibrant Planet
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45:37The wildfires in Los Angeles have gripped the country this past week. How could so much valuable real estate in prestigious zip codes populated at least in part by the rich and famous burn without recourse? Today's Reversing Climate Change podcast sees alumna of the show, Allison Wolff, return to discuss Vibrant Planet and the LA wildfires. We were…
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330: Frostpunk 2: Climate Video Games and Humane Storytelling at 11 bit studios—w/ Maciej Sułecki of This War of Mine, Frostpunk 1 & 2
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47:19Content warning: This episode discusses a scene in a video game that involves sexual assault during war. If you'd like to skip that section, it is from 7:57-8:35. There is a response that discusses the ethical choices in the game beyond that point, but it is more abstract and general about choices. Video games have not historically been amazing at …
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329: The “Faustian Bargain” in Climate Rhetoric: Goethe’s Faust & Modern Occultism—w/ Daniel Backer, author
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48:33In discussions about technology, and maybe especially within climatetech, the concept of the "Faustian bargain" is common. But what does it actually mean, and is it as simple as concept as it is typically considered? In today's special Halloween episode, Reversing Climate Change host, Ross Kenyon, intros the show by giving the necessary historical …
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328: Building a Biochar Startup on a Podcast: Grounded Takes Over Reversing Climate Change—w/ Tom Previte, founder of Restord & host of Grounded
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42:27The Grounded podcast takes over Reversing Climate Change! Tom Previte of The Carbon Removal Show, founded a new biochar company in the United Kingdom called Restord. And like any good podcaster, he decided to make a show about it! Grounded: A Climate Startup Journey, just wrapped its five-episode first season documenting Tom's attempts to start a n…
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Myles Gray on the US Biochar Initiative's 2023 Global Biochar Market Report
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41:54So much is happening in the world of biochar. It's both a physical product and can also be a more abstract concept called a "carbon removal". How is the industry balancing the divergent business logic of these two different markets, and what challenges and opportunities will it face? In today's episode of Carbon Removal Newsroom, producer and guest…
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327: Carbon Removal & the Philosophy of Science: Kuhn's Paradigms & Feyerabend's Anarchism—w/ Anu Khan & Dr. Holly Jean Buck
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57:49How do we conduct science when there isn't a single isolated variable? What does that mean for carbon removal not taking place in a controlled environment? How does science even work?! Today's show originated from a question of how open-system carbon removal research can be conducted given that in a less-controlled environment, isolating for a sing…
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326: Confronting Our Shadow: Jung, The Vietnam War, & Climate Change—w/ Karl Marlantes, author
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1:12:30What is it like to go to war? What does the experience have to teach us, and could it in any way be a spiritual endeavor? What does the Temple of Mars have to teach us in a climate-changing world? Karl Marlantes is a Rhodes Scholar who put aside graduate studies at Oxford University to lead a Marine rifle platoon in Vietnam in 1968. He is featured …
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Gabrielle Walker on the State of Corporate Carbon Removal Demand
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44:38Everyone used to say carbon removal was supply-constrained. Now everyone says it is demand-constrained. So which is it? Today's show has Dr. Gabrielle Walker, Co-Founder of the carbon removal marketplace CUR8 and the Founder of Rethinking Removals, an NGO working to change the conventional environmental story around CDR. She is hosted by Nori's VP …
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325: Literally Redoing the Oregon Trail: An Eccentric Environmental History—w/ Rinker Buck, author and adventurer
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1:07:08If you're going to write about the Oregon Trail or the Mississippi flatboat era, why not go gonzo? Does it make for better history or just better bar stories? What can you really learn about change by recreating epic journeys in contemporary times, and what can that teach us about how we live upon this planet? Today, adventurer and author Rinker Bu…
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The Carbon Removal XPRIZE Announces Their 20 Finalists
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38:10The XPRIZE remains one of the top stories in carbon removal and one of the largest funding sources for CDR start-ups. The Elon Musk-backed competition will award $50 million to the winning CDR startup in 2025 and send $10 million to three other runner-up teams. Over 1000 teams worldwide have applied since the award was announced in 2021. This month…
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Lots of news in carbon removal this past week! Frontier made their largest-ever purchase of $58 million from relatively new BiCRS company Vaulted Deep, Climeworks unveiled their Mammoth facility in Iceland, and Microsoft purchased 3.3 million tons of CO2 from BECCs in Sweden. These deals represent significant private market volume in CDR. But a new…
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324: My Octopus Teacher: How Rewilding Ourselves Could Heal the Planet—w/ Craig Foster, Oscar Winner and Author of Amphibious Soul
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54:16When the world feels increasingly tame, what does it mean to reclaim our wildness? Can we appreciate the benefits of industrial civilization while connecting with our evolutionary roots? Can we get ourselves back to the garden? In this poignant conversation, Academy Award-winning filmmaker Craig Foster shares insights from his experiences diving in…
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Biochar is an increasingly global carbon removal pathway. What does it look like to do business in Ghana and India? What does it mean for biochar to be decentralized? Mart de Bruijn is the Co-Founder and Director of Carboneers, a Dutch biochar company working to implement carbon removal solutions in India and Ghana. The conversation covers the chal…
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323: Is the Rise of a Global Middle Class Good for Climate?—w/ Dr. Homi Kharas, author of The Rise of the Global Middle Class
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48:20The world is becoming wealthier. Is that a good thing? Or should we be looking to simpler and less material lives? How does a middle class global population affect climate change, for good or ill? On today's show, Dr. Homi Kharas, a senior fellow at The Brookings Institution and author of The Rise of the Global Middle Class: How the Search for the …
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Europe has a lot happening for carbon removal, and on several different levels. What is the state of CDR policy and industry? Today's episode has Nori's VP of Supply and Methodology, Radhika Moolgavkar, on hosting duties, and Sylvain Delerce, the Associate Research Direct of Carbon Gap, joining the show to catch listeners up on Carbon Gap and the l…
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The Science Based Targets Initiative (SBTi) recently came out and announced they would be issuing guidance for how some carbon offsets may be used to address Scope 3 emissions (activities beyond direct business operations and energy). This set off a firestorm of protest within and outside of SBTi, as well as some calls of support. It was essentiall…
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How Far Behind Is the World on CDR Policy?
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38:35Carbon removal is sometimes thought to be enjoying policy tailwinds. But is it anywhere close to what we need to avoid the worst of climate change? A new report from the Rhodium Group suggests the CDR industry is receiving about 1% of what it would need to reach a one CO2 gigatonne/year capacity! Our regular panelists, Drs. Holly Jean Buck & Wil Bu…
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322: On Being a Climate Hypocrite—w/ Amie Engerbretson, pro skier and filmmaker of The Hypocrite
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58:24You are condemned to be free, and yet how much responsibility do you bear for the structures you inhabit? Do your individual consumer choices matter, or is it some distant political economy? Should we enjoy our time in nature on snowmobiles, or is that just one more bootprint on the road to hypocritical perdition? Do you need to be perfect in order…
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321: Metalplant's Debut! Enhanced Rock Weathering, Coproducing Nickel, & Additionality—w/ Eric Matzner, Cofounder of Metalplant
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53:00Carbon removal is often conceived of as only separating greenhouse gases from ambient air. But what if it also creates other valuable products in the process? Should they still be selling carbon credits? Does this competition make it harder for carbon removal companies that can't produce additional value streams? What are the trade-offs here, and i…
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InPlanet is an enhanced weathering company spreading rock dust on agricultural fields to draw down CO2. In November, it announced a new investment of $4.6 million from a group of investors. Based in Germany, InPlanet collaborates with farmers in Brazil, aiming to remove 1 million tons of CO2 by 2026. As they work to scale their operations, they fac…
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320: Why We Die: Living Longer's Impact on Climate Change—w/ Dr. Venki Ramakrishnan, Nobel Laureate and author of Why We Die
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54:06Why does death exist? Does getting older always mean getting wiser? Should we look to experience or youth for breakthroughs? In today's episode of the Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounder Ross Kenyon is joined by Dr. Venki Ramakrishnan, a 2009 Nobel Laureate in chemistry and author of the new book, Why We Die: The New Science of Aging a…
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319: How Nori Rebranded: A Case Study—w/ Heidi Sloane, Nori's Senior Marketing Manager
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46:42How should a climatetech company think about its brand? What if it's B2B? What if it needs to be both trustworthy and idiosyncratic at the same time?! In today's episode of Reversing Climate Change, Nori Cofounder, Ross Kenyon, is joined by his colleague, Heidi Sloane, Nori's Senior Marketing Manager. Heidi led Nori's recent rebrand, which took it …
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Compliance and Voluntary Carbon Markets in the EU & US
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29:39Criticism of VCM is very common. But what about CCM?! Compliance Carbon Markets face design and political economy issues as well. Could we replace them both with industrial policy? Maybe, but that has trade-offs too. For what is a climate-concerned person to root? This show delves into the fluctuations in the European Union's Emissions Trading Syst…
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318: Is the Climate Cooking Craze Missing the Point?—w/ Tamar Adler, author of An Everlasting Meal
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53:26Seems like a new book on climate-friendly cooking is constantly being released. Do they matter, or do they unfairly place the burden of political economy and social change on the lowly consumer? What type of cooking might actually be impactful, and why? Why do we even bother cooking anyway? In today's Reversing Climate Change podcast, Nori Cofounde…
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What Does It Mean When Oil Majors Buy Biochar?
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43:10Do carbon removal suppliers and registries have a responsibility in choosing their customers, or in enforcing how their carbon removals are used? Is it better that the money go to carbon removal than alternative uses? What matters, and at which magnitudes? In today's episode of Carbon Removal Newsroom, host Radhika Moolgavkar, Nori's VP of Supply a…
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The Rise of Climate Law within Carbon Removal
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25:08Law structures so much of our lives, but can feel inaccessible to those untrained. It is also in flux! How is the law being changed in response to climate change? Which laws can be adapted to suit our climate-changing country and world? And which are unprepared for new challenges? Today's episode of Carbon Removal Newsroom is hosted by Radhika Mool…
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317: Will Space Settlements Save Us from Climate Calamity?—w/ Zach & Kelly Weinersmith, authors of A City on Mars
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53:36Off-world settlements are sometimes proposed as an insurance policy for Earthlings. Or as an escape for the super-rich. Is it actually either of those things? How should we be considering humanity's relationship to the cosmos and off-world civilization? And is the Overview Effect worth a damn? On today's episode of the Reversing Climate Change podc…
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Biotech trees: the new frontier This week on Carbon Removal Newsroom, we sat down with Maddie Hall, CEO and co-founder of Living Carbon, to discuss how her company enhances the ability of photosynthetic organisms to draw down and store carbon from the atmosphere through the responsible use of biotechnology. Listen in to hear Maddie explain how thes…
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A lot has been happening in Europe lately.To break it all down for us, we’re joined by Sebastian Manhart, senior policy advisor at Carbonfuture and Initiator and Chair of the DVNE, Germany's CDR association.The episode discusses three major topics: 1) The good, the bad, and the surprising news from the concluded trilog negotiations on the Carbon Re…
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