Best Sadness Overload Podcasts (2025)

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Two Guys: Iowa State's slide continues in loss to ASU, Iowa prepares for Oregon 1:09:19

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Chris Williams and Chris Hassel react to Iowa State dropping their 4th-straight game. What do you do with Rocco Becht? Iowa hosts Oregon for an opportunity to elevate the program. Hassel's Halloween. YouTubeTV and ESPN are fighting. All this and more presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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65. Morning Routines for Busy Nurses: A Realistic Approach 9:26

4h ago9:26

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Send me a text - make sure to include your full phone number so I can reply (software blocks it) 💕 What’s your morning routine really like? If you're a nurse juggling on-call nights, family responsibilities, and a full-time job, mornings can feel more chaotic than calm. In this episode, Jenny Lytle, RN, gets honest about her own struggles — and sma…

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Bigger Than 12: Utah dominates Cincy, Texas Tech handles K-State, Cyclone sadness, and more 1:08:31

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Jake Brend and Derek Duke recap the Big 12 football weekend. Utah leaves no doubt against Cincinnati. Texas Tech's defense steps up to beat K-State. Baylor bounces back. What's going on with Iowa State? Weekly picks and more presented by WealthCharter Retirement + Tax. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Cyclone Sunday: Cyclones' skid continues, the Rocco Becht situation, 3-3-5 defense and more 37:24

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Ben Bruns and Aiden Wyatt react to Iowa State's loss to Arizona State for their 4th consecutive loss. What is the deal with Rocco Becht? Why Iowa State SHOULD stick with the 3-3-5 and more. Presented by Channel Seed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Episode 172: November 2025 Mystery Box 1:30:23

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Three unexplained phenomena: a strangely behaving interstellar comet, dark allegations of "human hunting parties" in wartime Bosnia, and a modern-day airport security incident that feels orchestrated. Told separately, they are compelling mysteries. Heard together, they paint a frightening portrait of a reality where the line between coincidence and…

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Murph & Andy: Rhuling Nebraska, Uh, Um, Coach, Halloween and MORE! 1:19:30

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales discuss the latest mess in college football that includes a Matt Rhule extension after a heroic 18-15 start at Nebraska. Leach was right. Iowa State faces Arizona State. Scott School, Hal-oween?, and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Happy Hour w/ Keith & Jenny: Halloween Costumes, Clueless College Moms, and BatDog 50:16

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In this week’s Happy Hour, Keith and Jenny talk about Halloween and everything that comes with it, more clueless college moms in Jenny’s feed, and the family dog tries on a Halloween costume.Presented by Iowa Distilling Company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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College Football Week 10 - 2025 | Iowa Nice Guy 12:12

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The Iowa Nice Guy returns for Week 10 — presented by Modelo. This week: College football’s obsession with guillotines and buyouts. Why Iowa’s not ranked (hint: SEC worship). Nebraska’s fake sellout streak meets USC’s fake glamour. Oklahoma and Tennessee fight for the “best pumpkin” award. Iowa State and ASU limp into the Misery Bowl. Plus, the Iowa…

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Legends & Listeners: Why isn't Iowa ranked? Wetjen etched in history, Big Ten CFP chances, and more 1:13:21

4d ago1:13:21

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Chad Leistikow and Scott Dochterman briefly recap Iowa's shellacking of Minnesota that saw Kaden Wetjen's tear continue. Where does he rank in Hawkeye history as a return man? Debating why Iowa should possibly be ranked, looking around the Big Ten, and more. Presented by GameDay Men's Health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adc…

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Two Guys: Previewing Iowa State/Arizona State, Top Games of Week 10 1:43:43

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Chris Williams and Chris Hassel dive into Iowa State's matchup with Arizona State. Can the Cyclones shake the losing streak? Iowa's Phil Parker pours gas on an Oregon fire. Games of the Week, Locks, ghost stories, and more. Presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Murph & Andy: True World Series, ASU-ISU Knockout, Can't Miss Movies, and MORE 1:03:58

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales discuss the incredible World Series between the Dodgers and Blue Jays before diving into Iowa State's matchup with Arizona this weekend. Giannis walks across Wisconsin, movies, and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Overthinking with Mackenzie & Scott: Underwater UFO's, Gen Z Slang Test, and Suggestive Skeletons 1:09:49

6d ago1:09:49

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Mackenzie Eddie and Scott Siepker are overthinking skeletons in suggestive poses, underwater UFOs that keep popping up, and a Gen Z slang test.Presented by Carbliss Premium Handcrafted Cocktails. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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All Access: Country music artist Cody Johnson returning to Des Moines 19:34

6d ago19:34

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Country music singer songwriter Cody Johnson is returning to the Casey's Center on Saturday, May 9, 2026! Tickets go on sale next Friday, November 7 at 10 a.m. Iowa Wolves G-League basketball returns to the Casey's Center on Friday, November 7! And it's a doubleheader weekend for the Iowa Wild with game this Saturday & Sunday! Learn more about your…

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CW Pod: Spooky Season Special with Mackenzie Eddie 1:08:12

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Chris Williams welcomes Overthinking's Mackenzie Eddie to talk about the paranormal. There's no way everything is a coincidence, right? Diving into Halloween, life, and more. Presented by Steeple Ridge Bourbon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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64. Nurse Overload? Try This 4-Step Self-Check Framework 4:48

7d ago4:48

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Send me a text - make sure to include your full phone number so I can reply (software blocks it) 💕 If you’ve ever found yourself thinking “something’s gotta give,” this episode is for you. In today’s episode of The Nurses Break Room, Jenny Lytle RN shares a simple yet powerful reflection tool: The Four Helpful Lists. Whether you’re recovering from …

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Murph & Andy: Surging Hawks, Fading Clones, Mic Grab, MORE 1:13:46

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales rewind the weekend that saw Iowa pick up a dominant win while Iowa State fell to BYU. News on the coaching carousel, a mic grab, and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Two Guys: Iowa dominates Minnesota, Iowa State drops third-straight in loss to BYU 1:11:29

7d ago1:11:29

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Iowa destroys Minnesota 41-3 to retain the Floyd of Rosedale trophy. The Hawkeyes (6-1, 4-1 Big Ten) are playing some of their best football in the past decade setting up a massive game at Kinnick Stadium in two weeks against Oregon. Hassel says ESPN's FPI has it right by ranking Iowa in the top 20. Iowa State's slide continues with a 41-27 loss at…

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Bigger Than 12: BYU stays perfect, Houston red HOT, and K-State and Cincy rise again 1:05:49

8d ago1:05:49

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Jake Brend and Derek Duke react to Saturday's action from the Big 12. BYU stays perfect after defeating Iowa State. What now for the Cyclones? Willie Fritz has Houston rolling. K-State and Cincy are playing their best football. Weekly picks and more presented by WealthCharter Retirement + Tax. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/ad…

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Cyclone Sunday: Iowa State falls to talented BYU team, mistakes loom large for Cyclones 34:57

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Ben Bruns and Aiden Wyatt react to Iowa State's 41-27 loss to BYU. What went wrong? Dissecting all the mistakes the Cyclones made. Can they get off the mat? All of this and more presented by Channel Seed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Instant Iowa: The Hawkeyes Roll Minnesota, Set Up HUGE Game Against Oregon 1:02:56

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The Hawkeyes Roll Minnesota, Set Up HUGE Game Against Oregon. Chris Hassel and Andrew Downs react to Iowa keeping Floyd of Rosedale in Iowa City and look ahead. Presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Hawks on Tap: Andrew Downs and Todd Brommelkamp Preview Iowa-Minnesota 1:32:59

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Live from Buffalo Wild Wings in Cedar Rapids, Andrew Downs and Todd Brommelkamp Preview Iowa-Minnesota. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Murph & Andy: Hunting Gophers, Underdog Cougars, Dr. Peanus, and MORE 1:43:35

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales are LIVE from Fiscus Jewelers (and Tempe) to discuss the college football weekend in Iowa before the latest on sports gambling. NBA Tip Off, World Series Week, Scott School, Unnecessary Censorship, and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Happy Hour w/ Keith & Jenny: Curb Your Enthusiasm, Keith's Face Cloth, and Waymo 50:57

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In this week’s Happy Hour, Keith and Jenny talk about some of the stores popping up in their neighborhood, try to find the right face cloth for Keith, and discuss Uber-like self-driving cars called Waymo. Presented by Iowa Distilling Company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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College Football Week 9 - 2025 | Iowa Nice Guy 11:18

11d ago11:18

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The Iowa Nice Guy returns for Week 9 — when the air’s cold, the takes are hot, and Nebraska’s still searching for self-respect. This week: Lane Kiffin’s job-hunting, Nebraska’s backsliding, and Brigham Young’s 60 wives all make the cut in another roast-heavy episode of college-football therapy. The Iowa Nice Guy breaks down: Ole Miss at Oklahoma Va…

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Legends & Listeners: Iowa's biggest win since...? The Legend of Floyd and Minnesota Preview 1:13:32

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Chad Leistikow and Scott Dochterman look back at Iowa's win over Penn State. How big of a win was it, really? Discussing why Floyd of Rosedale is the best trophy before taking a look at Minnesota and the Big Ten Slate. Presented by GameDay Men's Health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Two Guys: Previewing Iowa State vs. BYU – Iowa vs. Minnesota, Top Games of Week 9 1:18:48

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Chris Williams and Chris Hassel preview the MASSIVE weekend in the state of Iowa as the Hawkeyes take on Minnesota and the Cyclones host BYU. What's at stake for both teams? Locks, games of the week, and more. Presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Murph & Andy: QB Shade, Big Turd Day, Movie Candy, and MORE! 1:19:23

12d ago1:19:23

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales discuss all the shade being thrown at NFL QBs this week before diving into the domination of Iowa over Minnesota lately. Iowa State gets its kicker back. Candy in Movies and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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63. Feeling burned out? Start here. 7:44

12d ago7:44

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Send me a text - make sure to include your full phone number so I can reply (software blocks it) 💕 Feeling overwhelmed, burned out, or just off lately? You’re not alone—and this episode is your reminder to pause and ask one simple question: What do I need right now? In this 5-minute reset, host Jenny Lytle RN shares a personal story from a weekend …

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Overthinking with Mackenzie & Scott: Haunted Houses, Dog Pants, and AI Overload 1:06:13

13d ago1:06:13

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Mackenzie, Eddie, and Scott Siepker are overthinking haunted houses, AI articles taking over the internet, and the proper way a dog would wear pants.Presented by Carbliss Premium Handcrafted Cocktails. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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CW POD: Revenue isn’t the problem for college athletics 36:14

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Chris Williams takes a deep dive into the Big Ten’s reported interest in acquiring money from a private investment firm. Not everyone is on the same page. What’s it mean for the future? Chris peels off layers of what he believes to be coded language form the Michigan Board of Regents. A lot to dissect today, courtesy of Steeple Ridge Bourbon. Learn…

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Murph & Andy: See Mark Run, Move Over Babe, AI Funnel Cloud, and MORE 1:15:51

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales rewind to Iowa's win over Penn State and Mark Gronowski's takeover. How big is the win? College football news from the weekend, Ohtani's tear continues, ThrowDowns, and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Two Guys: Iowa's comeback win over Penn State, Big 12 race tightens 1:19:42

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Chris Williams and Chris Hassel react to Iowa's "biggest win in four years" and what it means moving forward for the Hawkeyes. Previewing Iowa State's matchup against BYU. Looking at the Big 12 title race and more. Presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Bigger Than 12: Texas Tech falls, ASU is for real, and BYU can't lose 1:14:36

15d ago1:14:36

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Jake Brend and Derek Duke relive the Big 12's weekend. Arizona State upsets Texas Tech. How good is BYU? Houston stays hot. Beasts Of The Week and more presented by WealthCharter Retirement + Tax. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Instant Iowa: Iowa comes up clutch to beat Penn State 59:08

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Chris Hassel and Andrew Downs react to Iowa's last-minute victory against Penn State, courtesy of Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Murph & Andy: Google Him, Green's Green, Unnecessary Censorship, and MORE 1:22:47

17d ago1:22:47

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales take one last look at the Iowa-Penn State game before diving into Curt Cignetti's timely extension. Iowans cash-in, Scott School, and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Happy Hour w/ Keith & Jenny: Facebook Marketplace, Happy Feet, and Zillow Gone Wild 50:46

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In this week’s Happy Hour, Keith and Jenny talk about Facebook Marketplace, test out novelty socks called “Happy Feet,” and go over some wild Zillow listings that have been popping up in Jenny’s feed.Presented by Iowa Distilling Company Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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College Football Week 8 - 2025 | Iowa Nice Guy 12:11

18d ago12:11

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The Iowa Nice Guy returns for Week 8 and the sarcasm is in midseason form. Lane Kiffin calls Kirby Smart fat, the Holy War, Nebraska fans are terrified their savior Matt Rhule is Penn State-bound, and Notre Dame continues to worship a false idol named Touchdown Jesus. Plus, a closing rant on college football’s dumbest slogans — from “Row the Boat” …

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Legends & Listeners: Coaching Carousel Potential, Penn State-Iowa Preview, and more 1:05:46

18d ago1:05:46

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Chad Leistikow and Scott Dochterman take a deep dive into the Penn State opening and how it could shuffle college football. Is Matt Rhule on the move? Breaking down the Iowa-Penn State matchup and more. Presented by GameDay Men's Health. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Two Guys: Previewing Iowa vs. Penn State, Top Games of Week 8 1:29:55

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Chris Williams and Chris Hassel take a deep dive into Iowa-Penn State. Do the Nittany Lions have any fight left? Hassel gives the green light to talk college hoops. The field storming epidemic, Games of the Week, Locks, and more. Presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Murph & Andy: Dodgers Awake, Iowa Uniforms, Rhule Out, and MORE 1:21:19

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales discuss the implications of this year's MLB Playoffs before reacting to Iowa basketball's uniform release. Is Matt Rhule in contention for the Penn State job? Cyclones and Hawkeyes in the WBB AP Preseason Poll. Movies and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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CW Pod: Franklin ripple in CFB, State of the Union for the Cyclones, and Tech's success 34:48

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Chris Williams dives into college football this week to discuss the James Franklin firing and what it means for the rest of college football. Will anyone catch Texas Tech in the Big 12? Touching on what Iowa State needs to do moving forward and more. Presented by Steeple Ridge Bourbon. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices…

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Overthinking with Mackenzie & Scott: Iowa Critters, Hub-Sons, and Sleeper Types 1:12:13

20d ago1:12:13

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Mackenzie Eddie and Scott Siepker are overthinking a Facebook page called “Iowa Critters,” stay-at-home “hub-sons,” and which type of sleeper they are.Presented by Carbliss Premium Handcrafted Cocktails Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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62. Feeling Overwhelmed? 7 Ways to Calm Your Mind and Stop Spiraling Fast 7:50

20d ago7:50

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Send me a text - make sure to include your full phone number so I can reply (software blocks it) 💕 Feeling overwhelmed, burned out, or just stuck in a spiral of stress? In this episode of The Nurses Break Room, host Jenny Lytle, RN, shares 7 practical and proven strategies to help you pause, reset, and reclaim your mental space—even on your busiest…

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Murph & Andy: Hawkeye Bullies, Cyclone Dud, Unranked Ranked, and MORE 1:19:48

21d ago1:19:48

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales rewind the football weekend before dissecting Iowa State's problem. How bad is Wisconsin? James Franklin's payday. Who's his replacement? All this and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Two Guys: Hawkeyes beat down Wisconsin, Cyclones stumble at Colorado, Franklin fired 1:17:37

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Chris Williams and Chris Hassel react to Iowa State's bad loss to Colorado. What is going on? Iowa whoops Wisconsin. Diving into the ripple effects of James Franklin being fired and more. Presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Bigger Than 12: Cyclones struggle, BYU survives, Tech dominates again, and more 1:02:47

22d ago1:02:47

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Jake Brend and Derek Duke react to the Big 12 football weekend. What's wrong with Iowa State? BYU stays undefeated. Can anyone catch Texas Tech? Weekly game picks and more presented by WealthCharter Retirement + Tax. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Cyclone Sunday: Iowa State drops to 5-2 after loss to Colorado 29:30

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Ben Bruns and Aiden Wyatt react to Iowa State's loss to Colorado. The injury bug continues to catch the Cyclones, execution miscues, and more. Presented by Channel Seed. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Instant Iowa: The Hawkeyes Blowout the Badgers...Again! 56:33

23d ago56:33

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Chris Hassel and Andrew Downs react to Iowa's 37-0 throttling of Wisconsin. Presented by Fareway Meat & Grocery. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Hawks On Tap: Andrew Downs and David Eickholt Preview Iowa-Wisconsin and More 1:32:13

23d ago1:32:13

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Live from Buffalo Wild Wings in West Des Moines, Andrew Downs and David Eickholt Preview Iowa-Wisconsin and More. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs

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Murph & Andy: Cam Ram Bam, Gametime Decision, Siepker on Skates, and MORE 1:27:05

24d ago1:27:05

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Keith Murphy and Andy Fales are LIVE from the Casey's Center with the Iowa Wild to kick off the 2025 season. The guys discuss Cam Skattebo's resurgence, Sack Up Saturday, AD's hate week continues, Scott Siepker on Ice, and MORE! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesBy 712 Media, Keith Murphy, Andy Fales, Murph & Andy, Chris Hassel, Chris Williams, Andrew Downs