A comics podcast by cartoonists Katie Skelly and Sally Madden. Support the show and get bonus episodes at patreon.com/thicklinespod.
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A new regular podcast series which features conversations with some of the key leaders and influencers from across UK infrastructure sector.
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Full episode at patreon.com/thicklinespod. Katie and Sally are back with Junji Ito for a look at his late aughts "cat diary," Yon & Mu (Kodansha, 2009). Happy Halloween!
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165 - Girl, Interrupted (by a Spiral)
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1:07:06Katie and Sally finally turn their sights to the one and only Junji Ito and the cult phenomenon manga Uzumaki (Viz, 2002). Come for the cosmic horror, stay for the exceptionally great hair design. And look out for our Patreon exclusive episode on Ito's Yon & Mu coming soon! Support the show and get bonus episodes at patreon.com/thicklinespod.…
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Data transforming infrastructure with James Lee
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36:16In this week's episode we’re taking a closer look at infrastructure’s use of data – how emerging digital technologies and AI tools are shaping and transforming the way we manage our built and natural environment. To help me I am joined by James Lee, the new Chief Operating Officer at global infrastructure giant Bentley Systems in a quiet corner of …
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Architecture for public good with Chris Williamson
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36:03In today’s episode we turn our attention to architecture and its role in shaping not just our buildings and infrastructure, but the society, environment and communities that are created by our built environment. To tackle this challenging brief, I am joined this week in a quiet corner of the Building Centre in London by Chris Williamson, internatio…
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Sizewell C investment insights with Jamie Hossain
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34:07In today's episode we take a close look at the investor’s perspective on the UK’s infrastructure market — and, in particular, what the landmark Final Investment Decision on the new Sizewell C nuclear power station tells us about the appetite, the risks, and the rewards for long-term private capital. Because, following completion of the deal last mo…
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Katie and Sally set their sights on Miss Ruki by Fumiko Takano (New York Review Comics, 2025): how does our environment change the way we experience friendship? What are we gonna do with all this life? Can I sleep over?? These existential questions and more: handled. (Spoiler - we loved this book.) Support the show and get bonus episodes at patreon…
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Full episode at patreon.com/thicklinespod. Katie and Sally take a look at the early '80s adult comics of Suehiro Maruo in Beautiful Monster (Bubbles, 2025) and wonder... just who are these adults? Thanks to our Patreon subscribers for making this episode possible!
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Reducing unproductive variability with Peter Jones
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36:56In today's episode we tackle one of the construction sector’s most persistent and costly challenges: productivity. The UK construction industry is under huge pressure as it copes with economic pressures, a shrinking workforce and a pipeline of increasingly complex projects. Creating major infrastructure schemes to transform our energy water and tra…
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Bioenergy plus carbon capture with Alex Young
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29:54In today's podcast we are talking about bioenergy and specifically looking at how carbon capture and storage is set to transform the technology. The UK’s net zero energy transition is firmly underway and one of the most promising new technologies is Bioenergy with Carbon Capture and Storage, or BECCS. By combining the generation of renewable power …
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British Steel – a new future with Ben Holmes
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34:16In today's episode we’re talking about steel — but not in the usual way. My guest, Ben Holmes, is Head of Sustainability at Elliott Wood, the structural and civil engineers behind, amongst many other things, 30 Duke Street, the UK’s largest steel reuse project in which some 78% of steel from the original structure is being repurposed. Ben believes …
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Private capital for public assets with Charlotte Madden
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33:23In today's podcast we dive into the rapidly evolving world of infrastructure investment — a space that has moved from the periphery of specialist portfolios to the centre of global capital markets. Once the preserve of a relatively narrow group of pension funds and specialist investors, infrastructure has now become a truly universal asset class, a…
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Cement - a critical UK resource with Dr Diana Casey
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34:20In today's episode we’re diving into cement – a material that underpins every road, every railway, every school, hospital, bridge, and home we build. Because without it, the UK’s infrastructure ambitions would, quite literally, crumble! My guest today is Dr Diana Casey, executive director for cement, energy and climate at the Mineral Products Assoc…
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Katie and Sally discuss two big 2025 releases: The Devil's Grin by Alex Graham (Fantagraphics) and Face Meat by Bonten Taro (Living the Line). But first: the Cloweses in Eddington, Aya Takano in Los Angeles, and Kirby at the Skirball. Ciao summer! We're so back. Find Sally at SPX in Bethesda, MD on 9/13 & 9/14: www.smallpressexpo.com Pick up Viscer…
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In today's bumper post summer special episode we return to the HS2 project - infrastructure’s poster child for delay and cost overrun – as we discuss the content of a brand new book examining how this project went, as the title suggests, so badly Off the Rails. Few infrastructure projects in British history have generated as much debate and scrutin…
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161 Arrugas/Wrinkles by Paco Roca with His Name Was Dusk PART ONE
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1:24:01Remember me? Sally is joined by her friend, translator and dungeon master, His Name Was Dusk to read Arrugas (Wrinkles in English) by Paco Roca, in both Spanish and English. Topics include, Bubbles Con, spying on Charles Burns, unseen Spanish comics, Dungeons & Dragons, dementia, and so much more. Thank you to our subscribers over at our Patreon, y…
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Commissioning is not testing with Paul Turner
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31:31In today's episode we revisit the subject of project commissioning - a vital, often underestimated stage of infrastructure delivery. What is commissioning – well in a nutshell it’s the complex process of preparing an asset to operate exactly as intended from day one. So to be clear, it's not testing! And to discuss this we are back with Paul Turner…
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In this episode we’re focusing on the management of nuclear waste; one of the most complex, long-term, and often misunderstood aspects of the UK’s energy future. Because while nuclear power is increasingly seen as a vital part of the transition to a low-carbon energy system, - and the UK government has just committed tens of billions of public poun…
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In today’s episode we’re diving into one of the most pressing – and controversial – sectors in UK infrastructure: water. Following years of public outrage over pollution, poor service and rising bills, the water industry in England and Wales now faces a once-in-a-generation reckoning. That reckoning arrived this month with the publication of the fi…
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159- Make Me a Woman with Siobhán Gallagher
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1:44:36Sally has too much to say to girl's girl Siobhán Gallagher about her pick and our bible, Vanessa Davis' Make Me a Woman (Drawn & Quarterly, 2010). Topics include 90's fashion, Hello Kitty, eating disorders on family sitcoms and more on this slumber party of an episode. Please enjoy Siobhán's terrific book, Full of Myself- a must-read for anyone who…
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Infrastructure investment strategies with Mark Gilligan
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35:23In today's podcast we delve into the fast-evolving world of infrastructure investment - an area that has never been more critical to delivering the economic growth, national resilience and transition to a net zero future demanded by the UK government. As we saw in the latest 10 year Infrastructure Strategy and in the Industrial Strategy that sits b…
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158 The Far Side by Gary Larson with Mattie Lubchansky
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1:20:54This episode was recorded prior to Scott Adams' announcement of his cancer diagnosis. As always, Thick Lines wishes good mental, spiritual, and physical health to all creators and createes. Joining Sally today is the business pleasure that is Mattie Lubchansky: former associate editor of The Nib, author of Boys Weekend and the rapidly impending rel…
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*TEASER* 159- Dilbert with Mattie Lubchansky
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3:34This episode was recorded prior to Scott Adams' announcement of his cancer diagnosis. As always, Thick Lines wishes good mental, spiritual, and physical health to all creators and createes. Enjoy the full episode at patreon.com/thicklinespod Joining Sally today is the business pleasure that is Mattie Lubchansky: former associate editor of The Nib, …
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A 10-year infrastructure strategy with James Corrigan
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29:47In today’s episode we are focusing on the government’s latest - and long awaited - 10 year infrastructure strategy. Because after decades of underinvestment, fragmented planning, and inconsistent delivery, the government has finally published what is perhaps the most comprehensive and ambitious infrastructure strategy in a generation. Backed by at …
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Sizewell C nuclear realities with Julia Pyke
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34:59In today' podcast we are focusing on the UK’s new nuclear power ambitions and specifically, exploring the Sizewell C project. As I said a few weeks ago on the podcast, it’s perhaps one of the most significant moments for the UK’s nuclear industry in over a generation. Last month, the government announced a multi-billion investment to drive forward …
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Today’s podcast takes a deep dive into High Speed 2 via the recently published Stewart Review, a detailed piece of work which attempts to help government to learn lessons and take stock from this much discussed project. And I’m pleased to say that to help me with this task today I am joined by the report’s author, James Stewart, long-standing infra…
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In today’s episode we will focus on the state of public infrastructure in the United States of America. Every four years, the American Society of Civil Engineers releases what’s been called “the nation’s most important report you’ve probably never heard of” - the Report Card for America’s Infrastructure. Using a simple A–F grading scale, it assesse…
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A new nuclear 'golden age' with Tim Stone CBE
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35:56In today's podcast we’re going to explore the UK government's latest announcement to invest vast sums of public cash in the nuclear industry. The latest spending review included £14.2bn to kickstart the Sizewell C plant and £2.5bn to underpin ongoing research into fusion technology. But crucially, it also outlined plans to pump £2.5bn into Small Mo…
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Rebuilding the Francis Scott Key Bridge with Lieutenant Governor Aruna Miller
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35:47Today’s podcast is another special episode, this week recorded live in New York at the recent Transforming Infrastructure Performance Summit hosted by Bentley Systems. My guest is Aruna Miller, Lieutenant Governor of Maryland State, who I interviewed to open the summit with a discussion on her role in the recovery and rebuild of Baltimore’s Francis…
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The future of precision technology with Ivan Di Federico
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31:19Today’s podcast is a special episode recorded live at Bauma 2025 in Munich—the global showcase for construction technology innovation. My guest today is Ivan Di Federico, the newly appointed President and CEO of Topcon Positioning Systems, a leader in geo-positioning and construction technology, with solutions that are being used everywhere in infr…
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Engineering leadership with Claire Gott MBE
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36:14In this week's podcast we talk about the challenges of building a career in the complex modern world of structural engineering. My guest today is Claire Gott, Head of Structures at global consultancy WSP - an engineer whose work has helped shape some of the most ambitious and high-profile structures in the UK and beyond but who has also devoted lar…
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Decommissioning for the future with Stuart Miller
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35:20In today's podcast we look at the world of nuclear decommissioning Nuclear power has played a vital role in the UK’s energy story for more than half a century. But as the country transitions toward a low-carbon future, there’s another story unfolding—one of responsibility, innovation, and transformation. The story of the decommissioning. At the hea…
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The water investment challenge with Siân Thomas
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36:01In today's podcast we focus on the UK’s mammoth, unprecedented, and, often, highly controversial water investment challenge. As climate pressures mount, population grows, and economic demands increase, the security of our water supply is becoming a defining issue for national resilience. Last December, Ofwat’s latest Price Review - PR24 – underscor…
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Zero-carbon buildings with Lord Adair Turner
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36:31In today's podcast we focus on decarbonising the UK’s vast building stock. The global buildings sector is one of the most essential but also perhaps the most overlooked frontiers in the fight against climate change. Homes, offices, shops, schools, and factories - they're where we live, where we work, and where we gather. They are the fabric of our …
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Infrastructure's AI realities with Tom Bartley
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35:32In today's podcast we delve into the world of Artificial Intelligence to explore the future of infrastructure and technology - and the people reshaping both. To do this we’re diving into one of the biggest - and most urgent - challenges facing the built environment: namely how we manage and maintain our ageing infrastructure in a world of rising co…
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Full episode at patreon.com/thicklinespod. What says "Happy 420, Two Days Late" like host and guest favorites, Akbar and Jeff? Sally and Sam Szabo find out what it means to be gay in Regan's America with Akbar and Jeff's Guide to Life by Matt Groening (Pantheon, 1989). This strip continued beyond the book's publication date for another TWENTY THREE…
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156- Poor Helpless Comics! with Sam Szabo
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1:14:41Happy Earth Day! Listener favorite Sam Szabo (Comics Will Break Your Balls, The Enlightened Transsexual, The Onion) is back to look at the PG-13 porno comics of Poor Helpless Comics! by Ed Subitzky (NYRC, 2023). Topics include, Heather McAdams' Cartoon Girl, going to the movies, National Lampoon, David Letterman, and so very much more. Sally was mi…
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In today's podcast we focus on hydrogen – zero carbon fuel of the future or an exercise in wishful thinking? That said, as the UK sharpens its focus on delivering a net zero future, hydrogen is increasingly taking centre stage in the national energy conversation. Touted as one of the cleanest and most versatile fuels available, hydrogen holds signi…
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In today's podcast we focus on the global infrastructure market and find out what the UK might do to accelerate its ambitions to drive economic growth from infrastructure investment. My guest today is Jake Mumm, General Manager for Public Infrastructure at global construction design and delivery business Bechtel - someone who has spent the last thr…
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In today’s podcast we takes a close look at the evolution and future challenges of tall building design with engineering design mega star Kamran Moazami. Kamran is WSP’s managing director for property and buildings and with nearly half a century of design experience under his belt – most recently on projects such as The Shard, 22 Bishopsgate, and O…
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154- Best of 2024 with Jog PART ONE
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1:11:25What's our favorite books from 2024? Sally describes them all in no particular order to beloved listener favorite Joe McCulloch! Part one is here for you to enjoy, for Part Two, we will see you over at our patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thicklinespod Follow us on Instagram @thicklinespod and email us to join our Discord at [email protected]…
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Sponge cities to tackle urban flooding with Lee Pitcher MP
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35:41Today's podcast is another special episode recorded live in front of an audience for the second of the latest Twin Talks interview series hosted by Bentley Systems. As with the first TwinTalk event with construction minister Sarah Jones MP, today’s episode heads to Parliament for a conversation with Lee Pitcher, MP for Doncaster East and the Isle o…
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ALARM25: the local roads crisis with David Giles
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30:26In today’s podcast takes a close inspection of the UK’s ever-deteriorating local roads condition. This year marks the 30th anniversary of the ALARM survey – the Annual Local Authority Road Maintenance survey – which for three decades has been the crucial benchmark for assessing the state of local roads across England and Wales. Commissioned by the …
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Planning: decoding the Bill with Robbie Owen
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29:26In today’s podcast we return to the vitally important, hugely complicated and normally highly emotive subject of planning reform. And help is (potentially) at hand in the form of the long awaited Planning and Infrastructure Bill which was published last week and heralded by government as providing “transformative reforms to get Britain building, ta…
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Embodied carbon assessment with Adrian Campbell
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33:01In today’s podcast we take a deep dive into embodied carbon and try to get a better understanding of why infrastructure professionals need to make its assessment more than just a nice add on but a fundamental part of the design process. The construction and infrastructure sectors are undergoing a major transformation as the industry seeks to reduce…
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153- *RE-RELEASE* A Very Gorey Episode
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1:14:57Last week marked the centennial of Edward Gorey's birth, so let's wish a happy birthday to our shared goth uncle with a listen back to episiode 23. Enjoy! Katie Skelly and Sally Madden discuss Edward Gorey's "Amphigorey: Fifteen Books" (1980). Topics discussed include Max Ernst, Edward Lear, Agatha Christie, Charles Addams, Tomie dePaola, Roald Dah…
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*TEASER* 162- Interview with Em Frank and Frances Cordelia Beaver part 1: Live from PCX!
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1:22This is a subscriber-only episode, for the full audio please visit patreon.com/thicklinespod Thank you to Partners and Son for hosting us! Sally interviews Em Frank (Heavenly Days, I Never Found You, Dark Garbage) and Frances Cordelia Beaver (On a Cute One, Spirits Hungover At Work, Give My Best To Your Kind!) live from Partners and Son at PCX. Top…
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151- The Pervert with Frances Cordelia Beaver
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1:30:57Frances Cordelia Beaver (On A Cute One, 2021) joins Sally Madden to read The Pervert by Michelle Perez and Remy Boydell (Image Comics, 2018) Topics include: a picnic at the graveyard, Milk White Steed by Michael D. Kennedy (Drawn and Quarterly, 2025), Peephhole #1 (despite what Sally says at the top of the episode, the table of contents is CLEARLY …
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Retrofitting: the future of housing with Anna Moore
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35:18Today we head back to the vitally important issue of housing and attempt to understand the UK’s complex, and some might say, largely dysfunctional housing retrofit market. It is a market that is rapidly evolving, driven by ambitious government policies, rising energy costs, and increasing public demand for sustainable, lower cost living. But with a…
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The affordable housing crisis with Anette Simpson
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35:37In today’s episode we dive into the UK’s deepening housing crisis– specifically looking at affordable housing where demand is still far outstripping supply. Despite ambitious government targets to deliver 1.5 million new homes over the next five years, the reality is that we are still only seeing 50,000 to 60,000 affordable homes being built each y…
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150- Surfing The Crimson Wave with Molly Colleen O'Connell
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1:52:33I was always here, where were you? Thick Lines is back! Sally Madden talks with with Molly Colleen O'Connell about The Green Hand and Other Stories by Nicole Claveloux (NYRC, 2017) topics include gardening, nudity, getting our periods for the first time, and lots more. Thank you for listening! Katie Skelly and Sally Madden are part of the programmi…
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