Best Smart Ape Podcasts (2025)

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AI Hype Cycles, Coca-Cola’s 70K-Prompt Misstep, Spotify’s AI Slop Battle, VR’s Killer-App Problem, Pokémon GO’s Execution Edge & Digital Passports with Lee Kebler and Andrew Schwartz 49:45

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AI is booming, VR is evolving, and AR is exploding into the real world—but most of it still feels underwhelming. On this week’s episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler welcomes Andrew Schwartz while host Cathy Hackl is away. Andrew is the Director of Metaverse Engineering at Nike, and together, they unpack the realities behind today’s AI hype cycle, …

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Delta Dental's HR Article: How to sell a lie... 12:24

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Send us a text In this episode, we pull back the curtain on Delta Dental’s latest effort to “train” HR departments on how to talk about their plans. On the surface, it looks like education—but behind the scenes, it’s strategic messaging designed to make employees hear only the positives and none of the truth about coverage limitations, provider res…

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AI Does its Own Reputation Spin, Google’s AI Data Edge, The AI Slop Crisis, Self-Coding Malware, TED Next, Cathy Headlines Female Quotient’s AI Summit and interview on Cuffing Season 2.0 & Dating Tech ... 1:02:41

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As AI systems start rewriting their own code and sanitising negative news about themselves, the line between control and autonomy is blurring. In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the unsettling rise of AI self-management, Google’s growing edge over OpenAI through real-world data, and the “AI slop spiral” threateni…

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Fear Over Facts: Delta Dental's Out-Of-Network Deception 24:33

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Send us a text Tracy takes our listeners into a deep dive on how third-party payers are discouraging their clients to see out-of-network dentists. In this episode, we expose the truth behind Delta Dental’s latest campaign targeting HR departments. Their message? Convince employees that going “out of network” will cost them more. The reality? It cos…

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OpenAI’s $38B Deal, Hinton’s AI Shift, GTC & FiI in Riyadh, Data Wars, Meta’s Hardware, Gaming in KSA with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, Melissa Tony Stires, and Janna Salokangas.of Mia AI, Cathy Heads to TED ... 1:02:54

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore OpenAI’s Sora and how AI-driven video generation reshapes creativity, privacy, and consent. From OpenAI’s massive $38B AWS deal to the ethical storm over data scraping and copyright, they unpack the week’s biggest tech power plays. The duo explores Geoffrey Hinton’s surprising o…

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Stupidity vs Malice: and the Future of Dentistry 27:12

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Send us a text Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the German theologian and resistance figure, once observed: “Stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice. Stupidity, not evil, is the greater threat. Not because it’s more powerful, but because stupidity is unreachable. You can expose evil, you can argue with it, you can shine a light on it, you c…

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Cathy at Nvidia’s GTC, Advances in Robotics, Cathy Goes Shopping with a Humanoid Robot, Samsung XR’s Future, Bored Apes Are Back and r what happened at Vogue Singapore's Next in Vogue and Singularity U ... 54:09

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the fascinating, funny, and sometimes unsettling intersection between humans and machines. From Cathy’s “shopping date” with humanoid robot Maximus to Amazon’s ambitious plans to automate its warehouses, the hosts unpack how AI and robotics are reshaping work and daily life. The…

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The AWS Outage Chaos, Fashion's AI Revolution, Sora 2.0's Dark Side & OpenAI's Controversial Pivot with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler 38:05

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl (yep, she’s back) and Lee Kebler open Pandora’s box - the tech edition. This episode’s all about navigating tech disruptions and learning to roll with the punches. From the AWS outage and OpenAI's controversial content policies, to Sora's impact on content creation, Pinterest's AI content controls, an…

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Sora 2, AI Ethics, Nintendo Research, Apple Vision Pro, Support Ends for Windows 10 with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee 47:36

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee explore the evolving intersection of AI, creativity, and ethics. Cathy is away this week and will rejoin the show next week. Meanwhile, Lee and Adam delve into OpenAI’s Sora 2 and its implications for digital rights, content authenticity, and ethical innovation. The hosts examine N…

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OpenAI’s Sora, Deepfakes, Meta Ray-Bans, AI Startup Boom, and the End of AOL with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler 36:47

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the week’s biggest tech stories, from OpenAI’s latest announcements and Sora’s deepfake potential to Meta’s sold-out Ray-Ban smart glasses. They explore how AI integrations with platforms like Coursera, Canva, and Zillow could reshape how we access and trust information. The host…

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Spatial Computing, Apple Vision Pro, Enterprise Collaboration, AI Safety, and LLM Limits with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Tom Acland 49:43

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler delve into the latest developments in tech, from Meta’s hardware updates to AI advancements and parental controls. Cathy interviews Tom Acland, CEO at Dassault Systèmes 3DEXCITE. Learn how the Apple Vision Pro is transforming enterprise collaboration and why we're finally reaching the t…

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The Dentrix and Vyne Issue 14:21

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Send us a text Two wonderful softwares at battle with each other. Unfortunately, Dentrix is flexing their mighty muscle, and it just might lead to dental practices making the switch to other dental practice management software. Vyne is the preferred software when it comes to the submission of dental insurance claims. Hopefully they'll fix their int…

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Meta Connect, Intel-NVIDIA Deal, Waymo Autonomous Ride, TikTok Oracle Talks, and AR Glasses with Lee Kebler and Nic Hill 53:54

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In this episode of TechMagic, host Lee Kebler is joined by Nic Hill, co-founder and Chief Innovation Officer of Sawhorse Productions, to explore the latest tech developments shaping our digital world. Together, they break down Meta Connect’s memorable moments and mobile-first pivot with Horizon Worlds, Intel’s surprising $5B partnership with NVIDIA…

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Meta Connect, Ray-Ban AI Glasses, Amazon’s Smart Eyewear, Nintendo’s Virtual Boy Revival, and AI Superintelligence with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler 46:52

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of hardware innovation, from Meta’s anticipated Connect event to Nintendo’s bold gaming moves. They unpack Meta’s AI-powered smart glasses collaborations, Amazon’s push into wearable tech, and Nintendo’s surprising Virtual Boy revival. Alongside hardware news, Cathy a…

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Moon Communications, Space Commerce, AI Wearables, Gaming Safety, and Global Esports with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Thierry Klein 1:24:18

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore the future of space and digital entertainment, and discuss AI-driven space operations, Roblox’s expansion with 100,000-player servers, and Paramount’s Call of Duty film adaptation. From esports acquisitions shaping global markets to safety and privacy in AI wearables, the conver…

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Digg Relaunch, AI Ethics, Online Trust, Platform Safety, and Human Connection with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Kevin Rose 1:14:15

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In this exciting return of TechMagic in season 3, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler sit down with Kevin Rose, founder of Digg and partner at True Ventures, to explore the future of digital communities and human-first technology. Together, they discuss the ambitious Digg relaunch in partnership with Reddit’s co-founder, Alexis Ohanian, the challenges…

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Embedded Finance, Digital Wallets, AI Agents, and Payment Innovation in 2025 with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Nabil Manji 1:09:06

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Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the cutting-edge innovations transforming finance and commerce in 2025. Along with special guest Nabil Manji, SVP of Finte…

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Bound by the Referral 29:46

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Send us a text Why Do Dental Specialists Feel Restricted in Charging Referred Patients, or should I say, using up the PPO patient’s benefits? If you’ve ever wondered why your dental specialist friends seem hesitant to bill additional fees for value-added services, or their full fee, or why your dental specialist family member says they have to “kee…

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AI Photo Tracking, AR Marketing, Spatial Computing, and Humanoid Robots with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Tom Emrich 1:06:21

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Cathy and Lee are taking a break this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack viral AI trends, privacy concerns surrounding ChatGPT's photo location capabilities, and the future of spatial computing w…

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The Ethics of Cost Shifting in Dentistry 29:05

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Send us a text Imagine you offer two options to your patients—one with premium materials, one standard. Sounds good, right? But what happens when those better options come at a cost that insurance won’t cover? Now ask yourself—when you pass on those costs to higher-paying patients, is that ethical? Or are you just playing Robin Hood with root canal…

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Trending in Tech: AI, Gaming, Fashion’s High-Tech Future, Vibe Coding, and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Special Guest Melissa Medina 1:02:51

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Cathy and Lee are on leave this month, and August is Greatest Hits time on TechMagic as we pull out some special episodes from our vault. In this Greatest Hits episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler explore cutting-edge innovations, from AI agents to Meta’s fashion-forward Ray-Ban smart glasses. Special guest Melissa Medina, CEO of …

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AI Scandals, Scam Ads, Cannes Lions, DM9 and Integrity: Ryan Joe, Rebecca Stewart, and Audrey Kemp Break It Down 26:00

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While TechMagic hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler are on vacation, they spotlight a must-hear episode of Adspeak by Adweek. In this episode, Ryan Joe speaks with Adweek’s Rebecca Stewart and Audrey Kemp to unpack the fallout from Cannes Lions 2023, where AI-manipulated case studies led to major award revocations, most notably involving agency DM9. T…

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Meta’s Neural Bracelet, Nintendo Switch 2, Apple’s Liquid Glass, Food Insecurity Tech, and AI Metadata with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Johanna Salazar 54:07

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In the season finale of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest tech trends, from Meta’s neural interface bracelet and Apple’s liquid glass UI redesign to Nintendo Switch 2’s record-breaking launch. They’re joined by special guest Johanna Salazar, co-founder of FoodStream Network, who shares her mission to build human-centered…

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Mixed Reality Headsets, Jason Momoa’s CPG Pivot, NASA x Oakley, Gen Z Careers, and Gaming AI with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Jeff Shardell 1:00:50

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On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome Jeff Shardell, founder and CEO of Humble Brands, to hear about his journey from leading at Google to redefining sustainability in the CPG world. Jeff shares how his tech background shaped his approach to eco-friendly product design, scaling consumer goods, and building an authentic…

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AI Deepfakes, Danish AI Laws, Apple Vision Pro, Meta Quest Zoom, and Atari vs ChatGPT with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee 52:50

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In this episode of TechMagic, Cathy Hackl is on vacation so host Lee Kebler is joined by Adam Davis McGee, where they unpack the latest tech headlines shaping the future of AI, VR, and gaming. They break down Secretary Marco Rubio's call for AI regulation following a deepfake incident and Denmark’s trailblazing AI liability laws. The duo also explo…

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The Hygienist Perspective 1:02:24

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Send us a text Here's the typical scenario: dental offices are not profitable by procedure, so they work the hygienists to death in order to make up for lost revenue. Then there's the lack of support Hygienists need when diagnosing periodontal disease. Need I say more? It's no wonder why dental hygienists are burned out... But is there something de…

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My Interview with two Humanoid Robots about Love 7:09

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Imagine a future where the emerging tech radically transforms human dating experiences. On this episode of TechMagic, tech futurist Cathy Hackl explores first hand the future of love and dating in the age of AI and humanoid robots. Cathy’s experiment with AI matchmaking shows its impact and limitations on human connections. The hosts discuss the im…

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Smart Glasses, Policy and State of AI in DC, Nintendo Glitches, Salesforce’s AI Leap, and Meta vs. OpenAI with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler 47:52

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On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the latest trends shaping our AI-powered future, as well as the policy and state of AI in DC. From Meta’s $100M AI recruitment strategies to their game-changing partnerships with Oakley and Prada for smart glasses, the duo explores how AI and hardware innovation are converging. …

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Dating AI, Loving Human: Exploring AI Relationships, Meta’s New Tech Partnerships, Inside AWE, and Military AI with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Adam Davis McGee 1:01:10

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On this TechMagic episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the complex relationship between humans and AI, from Cathy’s immersive week dating four AI boyfriends to growing concerns around AI-generated content. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. The discussion s…

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Meta XR, Snap Glasses, AI Dating, Apple AR, and Story Living with Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee 29:53

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Adam Davis McGee dive into the cutting edge of spatial computing, AI, and extended reality. Lee is on sick leave this week and we wish him a speedy recovery! Join Cathy and Adam as they unpack Meta’s XR partnership with Palmer Luckey, Snap’s smart glasses ambitions, and Apple’s sleek AR design str…

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"Who Moved My Cheese" in the Dental Industry 40:25

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Send us a text In Who Moved My Cheese?, Dr. Spencer Johnson uses a simple allegory involving four characters (Sniff, Scurry, Hem, and Haw) who navigate a maze in search of “cheese” — a metaphor for what we want in life, such as a job, relationship, or health. The story centers on how each character reacts when the cheese is moved, reflecting the ne…

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Beyond the Hype: AI, AR, Spatial Computing and the Next Wave of Innovation with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Sandy Carter 46:26

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On this TechMagic Greatest Hits episode, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler welcome AI thought leader Sandy Carter, author of AI First, Human Always, and COO of Unstoppable Domains for a deep dive into AI-driven leadership and technological transformation. They break down the latest innovations, from Apple’s Vision Pro developer workshop to Meta’s bo…

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Vibe Coding, AI Journalism, XR Warfare, AI App Building, and Apple Gaming with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler 43:44

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest breakthroughs in AI and their ripple effects across industries. Cathy dives into the strange world of vibe coding and discovers anyone can gamify the pitfalls of the dating scene. They discuss how AI democratizes app creation, they examine Business Insider’s bold move …

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AI in Retail, Wearable Tech, Distributed Commerce, and Roblox Fashion with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Dina Fierro 1:03:54

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler reunite to explore the latest in AI, tech hardware, and digital retail with special guest Dina Fierro, an Advisor and Fractional Marketing Leader. From Roblox’s real-world commerce integration to Google’s new XR glasses, the trio dives into how AI transforms distributed commerce, digita…

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TechMagic Greatest Hits: Meta, Apple, XR Trends, the Future of Spatial Computing, and Creator Evolution with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler 1:09:18

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In this Greatest Hits episode of Tech Magic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech developments, from Meta's bold moves in AR to Apple's Vision Pro journey one year later. They highlight Meta's success with Ray-Ban AI glasses, Apple’s challenges in AR innovation, and how creators are evolving into media moguls. Cathy also inter…

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Love in the Age of AI: Cathy Hackl with Samantha G Wolfe on Dating, Ethics, and Cathy’s Tech Intimacy Scale 54:45

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In this episode of TechMagic, host Cathy Hackl is joined by Samantha G Wolfe, founder of PitchFWD and NYU adjunct professor, to explore how AI and emerging tech are redefining relationships. From AI-generated love letters to dating in virtual environments, they examine the evolving boundaries between authentic connection and digital convenience. Th…

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GTA 6 Delay, Meta’s AI Ads, Deepfake Laws, Meta Ray-Ban Privacy, and Spotify’s AI DJ with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee 45:40

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In this episode of TechMagic, Cathy Hackl shares an exciting announcement, whilst co-hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis McGee dissect the latest shifts in AI, gaming, and digital privacy. From the delayed launch of Grand Theft Auto 6 to Meta’s controversial AI-driven ad strategies, the duo tackles pressing ethical, legal, and technological questions. …

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Business Stupid vs Business Smart in the Dental Profession 27:15

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Send us a text I’ll never forget the first time I sat down with a dental insurance representative, and started asking questions. I began with questions based on all the “false information” that had been thrown at me through the years regarding PPO contracts, such as: “sending in fee-for-service (FFS) fees increases PPO reimbursement rates”, or “you…

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Dental Apes on the Treadmill 13:32

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Send us a text Tracy was headed down to Utah County a few months ago, listening to one of our favorite talking heads interview an author, Annie Jacobsen, on a book she wrote titled, “Nuclear War.” She ended up buying the book for me to read, and it was very eye opening. I love reading books and finding what I call “crossovers” to what I see in our …

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Cathy Takes the TED Stage, Nokia Bells Labs Centennial, Google XR Glasses, Sam Altman’s IP Stance, Global Tariffs, and VR Gaming Trends with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler 57:03

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler unpack the latest from the TED conference, including Cathy’s AI matchmaking experiment and Google's XR glasses demo. They explore OpenAI CEO Sam Altman’s controversial take on intellectual property, the growing urgency for AI regulation, and how international tariffs reshape tech manufa…

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Switch 2 Strategy, Deepfake Detection, Robotics Redefined, Google’s AR, and EU’s €20B AI Bet with Lee Kebler and Adam Davis-McGee 52:41

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Lee Kebler and Adam Davis-McGee break down the most significant shifts in tech, from Nintendo’s Switch 2 delays to the EU’s bold €20B AI infrastructure push. They unpack Honor’s deepfake detection breakthroughs, Kawasaki’s quadrupedal robot horse, and tariffs disrupting major product launches. With a live update …

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Where is the sense of community in dentistry? 19:06

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Send us a text When I first started my dental practice, back in 1989, most dentists helped each other out. There existed a sense of community that was evident, even within our state dental association. They actually had a “new dentist” committee that was really helpful. The association leadership would assign someone as a mentor, which was also rea…

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OpenAI’s New Direction, Ghibli AI Controversy, Interactive Entertainment, Nintendo’s Next Move and More with Cathy Hackl, Lee Kebler, and Adam Davis-McGee 37:08

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler break down the latest in AI, gaming, and entertainment. They discuss OpenAI’s education initiatives, the viral Studio Ghibli AI trend, and Apple’s AI strategy. Plus, get insights into Nintendo Switch 2 rumors and the rise of immersive experiences like Meow Wolf. This episode also introd…

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AI in Drive-Throughs, VR’s Social Boom, Gen Alpha’s New Dating Trends, and the Future of Digital Ethics with Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler 44:05

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest tech innovations shaping our world. They explore AI’s growing role in fast-food automation, the rapid expansion of VR social platforms, and how Gen Alpha is redefining dating through gaming. The episode also unpacks Spain’s strict AI content laws, the Take It Down A…

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The "Real" Top 10 Concerns Facing Dentists 43:47

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Send us a text We identify what the top ten concerns dentists face every day with running their dental practices, and where to find the answers to run their dental businesses profitably. Support the showBy Robert Thorup, DDS

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AI, Gaming, and the Future of Human Connection: Microsoft Edge, Niantic’s $3.85B Sale, and More with Cathy Hackl & Lee Kebler 1:02:07

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In this episode of TechMagic, hosts Cathy Hackl and Lee Kebler dive into the latest in AI, gaming, and digital innovation. They explore how companies can move beyond AI hype to real-world applications, the evolving landscape of social platforms post-COVID, and why Niantic's $3.85B gaming sale signals a shift in geospatial AI. They also examine Micr…

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Utah 2025 HB495 Passes 34:43

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Send us a text My Practice My Business and the UDA help Utah dentists score another big win with legislation. We cover what this bill means to dentists and the patients they serve, and our wish for all states to pass similar legislation. Support the showBy Robert Thorup, DDS