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No SSH? What is Talos, this Linux Distro for Kubernetes?
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19:23Container-based Linux distributions are gaining traction, especially for edge deployments that demand lightweight and secure operating systems. Talos Linux, developed by Sidero Labs, is purpose-built for Kubernetes with security-first features like a fully immutable file system and disabled SSH access. In a demo, Sidero CTO Andrew Rynhard and Head …
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Aptori Is Building an Agentic AI Security Engineer
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18:01AI agents hold the promise of continuously testing, scanning, and fixing code for security vulnerabilities, but we're still progressing toward that vision. Startups like Aptori are helping bridge the gap by building AI-powered security engineers for enterprises. Aptori maps an organization’s codebase, APIs, and cloud infrastructure in real time to …
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The AI Code Generation Problem Nobody's Talking About
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19:28In this episode ofThe New Stack Makers, Nitric CEO Steve Demchuk discusses how the frustration of building frontend apps within rigid FinTech environments led to the creation of the Nitric framework — a tool designed to eliminate the friction between developers and cloud infrastructure. Unlike traditional Infrastructure as Code (IaC), where develop…
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The New Bottleneck: AI That Codes Faster Than Humans Can Review
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20:17CodeRabbit, led by founder Harjot Gill, is tackling one of software development's biggest bottlenecks: the human code review process. While AI coding tools like GitHub Copilot have sped up code generation, they’ve inadvertently slowed down shipping due to increased complexity in code reviews. Developers now often review AI-generated code they didn’…
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At the close of this year’s Google Cloud Next, The New Stack’s Alex Williams, AI editor Frederic Lardinois, and analyst Janakiram MSV discussed the event’s dominant theme: AI agents. The conversation focused heavily on agent frameworks, noting a shift from last year's third-party tools like Langchain, CrewAI, and Microsoft’s Autogen, to first-party…
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Agentic AI and A2A in 2025: From Prompts to Processes
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19:18Agentic AI represents the next phase beyond generative AI, promising systems that not only generate content but also take autonomous actions within business processes. In a conversation recorded at Google Cloud Next, Kevin Laughridge of Deloitte explains that businesses are moving from AI pilots to production-scale deployments. Agentic AI enables d…
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Your AI Coding Buddy Is Always Available at 2 a.m.
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20:43Aja Hammerly, director of developer relations at Google, sees AI as the always-available coding partner developers have long wished for—especially in those late-night bursts of inspiration. In a conversation with Alex Williams at Google Cloud Next, she described AI-assisted coding as akin to having a virtual pair programmer who can fill in gaps and…
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Google AI Infrastructure PM On New TPUs, Liquid Cooling and More
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19:38At Google Cloud Next '25, the company introduced Ironwood, its most advanced custom Tensor Processing Unit (TPU) to date. With 9,216 chips per pod delivering 42.5 exaflops of compute power, Ironwood doubles the performance per watt compared to its predecessor. Senior product manager Chelsie Czop explained that designing TPUs involves balancing powe…
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Google Cloud Therapist on Bringing AI to Cloud Native Infrastructure
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24:04At Google Cloud Next, Bobby Allen, Group Product Manager for Google Kubernetes Engine (GKE), emphasized GKE’s foundational role in supporting AI platforms. While AI dominates current tech conversations, Allen highlighted that cloud-native infrastructure like Kubernetes is what enables AI workloads to function efficiently. GKE powers key Google serv…
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VMware's Kubernetes Evolution: Quashing Complexity
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30:40Without this, developers waste time managing infrastructure instead of focusing on code. VMware addresses this with VCF, a pre-integrated Kubernetes solution that includes components like Harbor, Valero, and Istio, all managed by VMware. While some worry about added complexity from abstraction, Turner dismissed concerns about virtualization overhea…
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Prequel is launching a new developer-focused service aimed at democratizing software error detection—an area typically dominated by large cloud providers. Co-founded by Lyndon Brown and Tony Meehan, both former NSA engineers, Prequel introduces a community-driven observability approach centered on Common Reliability Enumerations (CREs). CREs catego…
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Arm’s Open Source Leader on Meeting the AI Challenge
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18:21At Arm, open source is the default approach, with proprietary software requiring justification, says Andrew Wafaa, fellow and senior director of software communities. Speaking at KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe, Wafaa emphasized Arm’s decade-long commitment to open source, highlighting its investment in key projects like the Linux kernel, GCC, and …
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Why Kubernetes Cost Optimization Keeps Failing
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17:22In today’s uncertain economy, businesses are tightening costs, including for Kubernetes (K8s) operations, which are notoriously difficult to optimize. Yodar Shafrir, co-founder and CEO of ScaleOps, explained at KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe that dynamic, cloud-native applications have constantly shifting loads, making resource allocation complex.…
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How Heroku Is ‘Re-Platforming’ Its Platform
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18:01Heroku has been undergoing a major transformation, re-platforming its entire Platform as a Service (PaaS) offering over the past year and a half. This ambitious effort, dubbed “Fir,” will soon reach general availability. According to Betty Junod, CMO and SVP at Heroku (owned by Salesforce), the overhaul includes a shift to Kubernetes and OCI standa…
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Container Security and AI: A Talk with Chainguard's Founder
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20:51In this episode of The New Stack Makers, recorded at KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe, Alex Williams speaks with Ville Aikas, Chainguard founder and early Kubernetes contributor. They reflect on the evolution of container security, particularly how early assumptions—like trusting that users would validate container images—proved problematic. Aikas r…
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Kelsey Hightower, AWS's Eswar Bala on Open Source's Evolution
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37:52In a candid episode of The New Stack Makers, Kubernetes pioneer Kelsey Hightower and AWS’s Eswar Bala explored the evolving relationship between enterprise cloud providers and open source software at KubeCon+CloudNativeCon London. Hightower highlighted open source's origins as a grassroots movement challenging big vendors, and shared how it gave pe…
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The Kro Project: Giving Kubernetes Users What They Want
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21:51In a rare show of collaboration, Google, Amazon, and Microsoft have joined forces on Kro — the Kubernetes Resource Orchestrator — an open source, cloud-agnostic tool designed to simplify custom resource orchestration in Kubernetes. Announced during KubeCon + CloudNativeCon Europe, Kro was born from strong customer demand for a Kubernetes-native sol…
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OpenSearch: What’s Next for the Search and Analytics Suite?
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20:10OpenSearch has evolved significantly since its 2021 launch, recently reaching a major milestone with its move to the Linux Foundation. This shift from company-led to foundation-based governance has accelerated community contributions and enterprise adoption, as discussed by NetApp’s Amanda Katona in a New Stack Makers episode recorded at KubeCon + …
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Kong’s AI Gateway Aims to Make Building with AI Easier
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21:05AI applications are evolving beyond chatbots into more complex and transformative solutions, according to Marco Palladino, CTO and co-founder of Kong. In a recent episode of The New Stack Makers, he discussed the rise of AI agents, which act as "virtual employees" to enhance organizational efficiency. For instance, AI can now function as a product …
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What’s the Future of Platform Engineering?
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26:44Platform engineering was meant to ease the burdens of Devs and Ops by reducing cognitive load and repetitive tasks. However, building internal development platforms (IDPs) has proven challenging. Despite this, Gartner predicts that by 2026, 80% of software engineering organizations will have a platform team. In a recent New Stack Makers episode, Ma…
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AI agents are set to transform software development, but software itself isn’t going anywhere—despite the dramatic predictions. On this episode of The New Stack Makers, Mark Hinkle, CEO and Founder of Peripety Labs, discusses how AI agents relate to serverless technologies, infrastructure-as-code (IaC), and configuration management. Hinkle envision…
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The transition from SaaS to Services as Software with AI agents is underway, necessitating new orchestration methods similar to Kubernetes for containers. AI agents will require resource allocation, workflow management, and scalable infrastructure as they evolve. Two key trends are driving this shift: Data Evolution – From spreadsheets to AI agents…
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Amazon Q Developer is streamlining the software development lifecycle by integrating AI-powered tools into AWS. In an interview at AWS in Seattle, Srini Iragavarapu, director of generative AI Applications and Developer Experiences at AWS, discussed how Amazon Q Developer enhances the developer experience. Initially focused on inline code completion…
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OAuth Works for AI Agents but Scaling is Another Question
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25:36Maya Kaczorowski noticed that AI identity and AI agent identity concerns were emerging from outside the security industry, rather than from CISOs and security leaders. She concluded that OAuth, the open standard for authentication, already serves the purpose of granting access without exposing passwords. Kaczorowski, a respected technologist and fo…
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LLMs and AI Agents Evolving Like Programming Languages
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28:08The rise of the World Wide Web enabled developers to build tools and platforms on top of it. Similarly, the advent of large language models (LLMs) allows for creating new AI-driven tools, such as autonomous agents that interact with LLMs, execute tasks, and make decisions. However, verifying these decisions is crucial, and critical reasoning may be…
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