Future of Freedom is your antidote to cable news brawls and social media shouting. A podcast for serious, good-faith conversations about liberty and the ideas that shape it. Hosted by Scot Bertram, each episode explores a single topic and brings together two guests with opposing views. But this isn’t a debate show: no interruptions, no dunking, just thoughtful, civil discourse. It’s compelling, challenging, and refreshingly real. Subscribe now and join the conversation.
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Leading Through Unprecedented Times, hosted by Thomas C. Murray of Future Ready Schools, looks at how today’s leaders are working to maximize student learning experiences and break down traditional barriers, all while facing the adversity that comes their way. Each week guests share powerful stories of resilience, vulnerability, equity, and the importance of collaborative leadership. These stories provide inspiration, hope, and support for your professional practices, regardless of position. ...
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John Yoo & Charles C. W. Cooke: Who Decides When America Goes to War?
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35:44On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints concerning when the President needs the approval of Congress to engage in military action. First on the show is John Yoo, the Emanuel Heller Professor of Law at the University of California at Berkeley, Senior Research Fellow at the Civitas Ins…
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Tobias Peter & Judge Glock: How Should Zoning Be Viewed & Reformed?
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33:05On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about zoning laws and America’s housing supply. First on the show is Tobias Peter, a senior fellow at AEI and the codirector of the American Enterprise Institute’s Housing Center. Later, we hear from Judge Glock, director of research and a seni…
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Keith E. Whittington & Charles Fain Lehman: Does Federal Involvement Safeguard or Endanger Free Speech on College Campuses?
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33:51On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about whether federal involvement safeguards or endangers free speech on college campuses. First on the show is Keith E. Whittington, is the David Boies Professor of Law at Yale Law School and founding chair of the Academic Freedom Alliance. La…
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Oren Cass & Iain Murray: Can the Use of Tariffs Help Improve the U.S. Economy?
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37:02On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about tariffs. First on the show is Oren Cass, Chief Economist at American Compass. Later, we hear from Iain Murray, Vice President for Strategy and senior fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. You can find Oren on X @oren_cass and Ia…
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Johan Norberg & Derek Scissors: How Should the U.S. Economically Engage With China?
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34:45On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about trade with and investment in China. First on the show is Johan Norberg, senior fellow at the Cato Institute. Later, we hear from Derek Scissors, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. You can find Johan on X @johanknorberg an…
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Brian Rankin & Howard Husock: Should the Federal Government Fund Public Broadcasting?
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33:27On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about federal funding for public broadcasting. First on the show is Brian Rankin, an Adjunct Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Later, we hear from Howard Husock, senior fellow in Domestic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise …
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Charles Fain Lehman & Jacob James Rich: Should Online Sports Gambling Be Legal?
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35:11On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the legalization of internet sports gambling. First on the show is Charles Fain Lehman, fellow at the Manhattan Institute and senior editor of City Journal. Later, we hear from Jacob James Rich, policy analyst at Reason Foundation. You ca…
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Adapting to a Culture of Innovation (with Dr. Scott Menzel)
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17:54Guest: Dr. Scott Menzel, Superintendent, Scottsdale Unified School District 48 (AZ) X: https://www.x.com/menzels Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurray.bsky.social Future Re…
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Student Wellness is Part of the Culture (with Sarah Frayer)
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26:27Guest: Sarah Frayer, Assistant Principal, Washington (DC) IG: https://www.instagram.com/frayersarah LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarah-frayer-4719b61bb/ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsk…
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Grover Norquist & Jessica Riedl: Evaluating the Effectiveness of DOGE
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38:45On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). First on the show is Grover Norquist, President of Americans for Tax Reform. Later, we hear from Jessica Riedl, senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, focusing on budget, tax, and economi…
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The Value of Community Voice (with Dr. Quintin Shepherd)
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29:16Guest: Dr. Quintin Shepherd, Superintendent, Pflugerville ISD (TX) IG: https://www.instagram.com/quintin_shepherd Book: https://amzn.to/3X9RUbG Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thom…
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We are the Game Changers (with Dr. Patricia Brent-Sanco)
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33:15Guest: Dr. Patricia Brent-Sanco, Director of Equity, Access, & Instructional Services, Lynwood Unified School District (CA) X: https://x.com/Dr_PBSanco LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/patricia-brent-sanco-ed-d-1a146b54 Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: h…
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Neal McCluskey & Rick Hess: How Should the Department of Education Be Addressed?
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38:21On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the Department of Education. First on the show is Neal McCluskey, the director of Cato’s Center for Educational Freedom. Later, we hear from Frederick M. Hess, Senior Fellow and Director of Education Policy Studies at the American Enterpr…
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Lead Humbly and Stay Connected (with Dr. Erik Gundersen)
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25:57Guest: Erik Gundersen, Superintendent, Suffern Central School District (NY) X: https://x.com/egunder IG: https://www.instagram.com/pegunder Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascm…
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Guest: Meghan Lawson, Assistant Superintendent & Author X: https://x.com/Meghan_Lawson IG: https://www.instagram.com/meghanlawsonblog Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurray.…
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Navigating Artificial Intelligence in Education (with Ken Shelton)
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36:18Guest: Ken Shelton, Future Ready Faculty, Author, and Consultant X: https://x.com/k_shelton IG: https://www.instagram.com/kshelton BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/kshelton.bsky.social Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurray…
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Encouraging Students to Stay True to Themselves (with Hamish Brewer)
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29:06Guest: Hamish Brewer, Educator, Author, and Speaker, New Zealand X: https://x.com/brewerhm IG: https://www.instagram.com/hamish_brewer/ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurra…
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Changing the World One Student at a Time (with Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket)
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21:22Guest: Dr. Rachel Edoho-Eket, Elementary Principal, Maryland X: https://x.com/RachelEdohoEket IG: https://www.instagram.com/the_principals_journey BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/drracheledoho-eket.bsky.social Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.in…
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Guest: Dr. Randy Watson, Commissioner of Education, Kansas X: https://www.x.com/KSCommissioner X: https://www.x.com/KSDE Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instargram.com/thomascmurrayedu BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/thomascmurray.bsky.social F…
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Joe Lancaster & Thomas J. Healey: How Should the IRS Be Reformed?
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31:46On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about possible reform of the Internal Revenue Service. First on the show is Joe Lancaster, an assistant editor at Reason. Later, we hear from Thomas J. Healey, the former assistant secretary of the U.S. Treasury under President Ronald Reagan, a…
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Robert VerBruggen & Adam White: Should SCOTUS Be Reformed?
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33:03On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the need for reform of the U.S. Supreme Court. First on the show is Robert VerBruggen, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and writer for City Journal. Later, we hear from Adam White, Laurence H. Silberman Chair in Constitutional Governan…
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Stephen Miran & Scott Lincicome: Should the United States Prioritize Reindustrialization?
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37:40On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the need for a reindustrialization policy for America. First on the show is Stephen Miran, a fellow at the Manhattan Institute and former senior advisor for economic policy at the U.S. Department of the Treasury. Later, we hear from Scott…
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Andy Puzder & Allison Schrager: Should Tips Be Taxed?
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23:05On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about a “No Tax on Tips” policy. First on the show is Andy Puzder, the chief executive officer of CKE Restaurants for more than 16 years and currently a distinguished visiting fellow at the Heritage Foundation and a senior fellow at the America…
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Mackenzie Eaglen & John G. Ferrari: How Should Military Recruiting Efforts Be Improved?
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35:37On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about how to improve military recruitment efforts. First on the show is Mackenzie Eaglen, senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute (AEI). Later we hear from John G. Ferrari, a nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Insti…
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Alex Reinauer & Greyson Gee: Should 'Right to Repair' Laws Be Enacted?
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33:31On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about “Right to Repair” laws. First on the show is Alex Reinauer, research fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Later we hear from Greyson Gee, policy scholar at the Texas Public Policy Foundation. You can find Alex on X, formerly Tw…
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Alexandra DeSanctis & Philip Klein: Should Abortion Be a State or Federal Issue?
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30:09On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the wisdom of federal pro-life legislation in the wake of the Dobbs decision. First on the show is Alexandra DeSanctis, fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center and co-author of the book Tearing Us Apart: How Abortion Harms Everythin…
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How to Personalize the Experience (with Nicki Slaugh & Eric Sheninger)
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29:58Guests: Nicki Slaugh, Principal, Quest Academy (UT) X: https://www.x.com/NickiatQuest Eric Sheninger, Award-winning educator and CEO, Aspire Change EDU X: https://www.x.com/e_sheninger Personalize (the book) - https://amzn.to/3z7wQJv Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmur…
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Jay P. Greene & Tanner Aliff: How Should the Doctor Shortage Be Addressed?
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33:27On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about how to address the doctor shortage in the United States. First on the show is Jay P. Greene, PhD, a Senior Research Fellow in The Heritage Foundation’s Center for Education Policy. Later, we hear from Tanner Aliff, Policy Director for the…
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Leading a School from the Front and Back (with Andrew Rebello)
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31:54Guest: Andrew Rebello, Assistant Superintendent-Principal, Diman Regional Vocational Technical High School (MA) X: https://www.x.com/DimanPrincipal Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https…
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The Teacher is the #1 Impacter (with Melody Hawkins)
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34:14Guest: Melody Hawkins, Science Facilitator, Tennessee X: https://www.x.com/MHawkinsEDU IG: https://www.instragram.com/mhawkinsedu Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady…
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Be the Leader You Set Out to Be (with Baruti Kafele)
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30:00Guest: Baruti Kafele, Best-Selling Speaker & Author X: https://www.x.com/PrincipalKafele IG: https://www.instagram.com/PrincipalKafele Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.Future…
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C. Jarrett Dieterle & Brian Albrecht: Should Non-Compete Clauses Be Banned?
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32:34On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints about the recent FEC decision to ban noncompete clauses in employment agreements. First on the show is C. Jarrett Dieterle, resident senior fellow at the R Street Institute. Later, we hear from Brian Albrecht, chief economist of the Internation…
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The Storms Are Coming! Let's Normalize Them! (with Dr. Donya Ball)
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37:20Guest: Dr. Donya Ball, Superintendent, The Academies (CA) X: https://www.x.com/SuptDonya IG: https://www.instagram.com/dr__d__/ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.o…
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John Hood & Andrew T. Walker: What Should Be the Future of Conservatism?
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35:57On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints on the future of conservatism. First on the show is John Hood, president of the John William Pope Foundation and one of the organizers of the Freedom Conservative Statement. Later, we hear from Andrew T. Walker, Associate Professor of Christian…
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Building Capacity for Instructional Leadership (with Jimmy Casas)
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30:36Guest: Jimmy Casas, Future Ready Faculty & Former Award-Winning Principal X: https://www.x.com/casas_jimmy IG: https://www.instagram.com/casas_jimmy Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Website: http…
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Don't Confuse Access with Belonging (with Dr. Dennis Williams)
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25:58Guest: Dr. Dennis Williams, High School Principal, Hatboro-Horsham School District (PA) X: https://www.x.com/DWills0604 IG: https://www.instagram.com/ddubbS54 Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray IG: https://www.instagram.com/thomascmurrayedu Future Ready Schools Web…
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Elizabeth Nolan Brown & Emma Waters: Is Surrogacy Good for Our Culture?
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34:27On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints on whether surrogacy is good for our culture. First on the show is Elizabeth Nolan Brown, senior editor at Reason and the author of Reason's biweekly Sex & Tech newsletter. Later, we hear from Emma Waters, a Senior Research Associate for the Ri…
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Ensuring Access & Opportunity (with Dr. Robin Avelar La Salle)
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33:18Guest: Dr. Robin Avelar La Salle, CEO, Orenda Education (CA) X: https://www.x.com/OrendaEd IG: https://www.instagram.com/OrendaEd Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC X: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureRead…
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Life Changing Learning (with Dr. David Law)
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28:49Guest: Dr. David Law, Superintendent, Minnetonka Public Schools (MN) Twitter: https://www.x.com/DLawSuper Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureReady.org/Virt…
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Behind the Mission of Serving Students (with Dr. Julie Mitchell)
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26:18Guest: Dr. Julie Mitchell, Superintendent, Rowland Unified School District (CA) Twitter: https://www.x.com/_JulieMitchell_ Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org Free Virtual Events: http://www.Fut…
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Vance Ginn & Angela Rachidi: How Should SNAP Be Reformed?
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35:26On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding possible reforms to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). First on the show is Vance Ginn, president of Ginn Economic Consulting and former chief economist at the White House Office of Management and Budget. Later, we …
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Championing Kids at the Middle Level (with Dr. Carmen Maring)
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35:57Guest: Dr. Carmen Maring, Principal, Gull Lake School District (MI) Twitter: https://www.x.com/dr_maring Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureReady.org/Virtu…
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Cultivating Trust in the School System (with Dr. Nick Polyak)
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23:27Guest: Dr. Nick Polyak, Superintendent, Leyden High School District 212 (IL) Twitter: https://www.x.com/npolyak Host: Thomas C. Murray, Director of Innovation, Future Ready Schools, Washington, DC Twitter: https://www.x.com/thomascmurray Future Ready Schools Website: https://www.FutureReady.org Free Virtual Events: http://www.FutureReady.or…
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Daniel Lyons & Jonathan Cannon: How Should the Broadband Affordability Gap Be Addressed?
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30:54On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding our approach to the broadband affordability gap. First on the show is Daniel Lyons, nonresident senior fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and associate dean of academic affairs and a professor of law at Boston College Law Sch…
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Mark A. Calabria & Mary L. G. Theroux: How Should Homelessness Be Addressed?
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35:18On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding our approach to the homelessness crisis. First on the show is Mark A. Calabria, a senior advisor to the Cato Institute. Later, we hear from Mary L. G. Theroux, Chairman of the Board of Directors and Chief Executive Officer of the Inde…
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Robert Poole & David Ditch: Should a Federal Miles Traveled Tax Be Adopted?
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31:06On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding the implementation of a miles traveled tax to fund transportation infrastructure. First on the show is Robert Poole, director of transportation policy and Searle Freedom Trust Transportation Fellow at Reason Foundation. Later, we hear…
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Aparna Mathur & Rachel Greszler: Should the Federal Government Provide Paid Parental & Medical Leave?
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32:50On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding federal paid parental and medical leave. First on the show is Aparna Mathur, Senior Manager in Economics at Amazon, former resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, and a former senior fellow at Harvard University’s Kenne…
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Courtney Joslin & Michael New: Should Contraceptive Access Be Expanded?
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29:04On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding the expansion of access to contraceptives in the U.S. First on the show is Courtney Joslin, Resident Fellow and Senior Manager of the Project for Women and Families at RStreet. Later, we hear from Michael New, Assistant Professor of S…
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James Carafano & Ivan R. Eland: What Role Should the U.S. Play in NATO?
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35:04On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding the future of U.S. involvement in NATO. First on the show is James Carafano, Senior Counselor to the President at the Heritage Foundation and E.W. Richardson Fellow. Later, we hear from Ivan R. Eland, Senior Fellow at the Independent …
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Corey DeAngelis & Robert Bortins: Should Conservatives Embrace Universal School Choice Policies?
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34:26On this episode of Future of Freedom, host Scot Bertram is joined by two guests with different viewpoints regarding universal school choice and school vouchers. First on the show is Corey DeAngelis, senior fellow at the American Federation For Children, visiting fellow at Stanford’s Hoover Institution, and a member of the board of academic advisors…
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