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Retaliation with Julie Roginsky

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Retaliation with Julie Roginsky is a weekly podcast focused on the stories of women who have spoken truth to power and been punished for it. It shares the experiences of brave individuals who have been castigated rather than celebrated for standing up. Political strategist and television commentator Julie Roginsky examines the structures, systems, and individual culprits responsible for perpetrating and perpetuating workplace toxicity. Retaliation explores the legal steps, policy changes, an ...
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From six-time New York Times bestselling author Joe Garner, and based on his groundbreaking multimedia book, “We Interrupt This Broadcast,” comes a 12-episode, audio docu-series hosted by broadcast legend Bill Kurtis, and narrated by NBC’s Brian Williams. Each episode unfolds with the brisk pace and tone of a thriller while presenting an in-depth look into the reporting of, and reaction to, the extraordinary events that became the benchmarks of the American story. It is said that “breaking n ...
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Julie wraps up season one of Retaliation, describing how the interviews have impacted both herself and the podcast listeners. Though the season is over, please keep the stories coming. Reach out if you need advice or just to talk or just to say "I can't tell you what happened to me but I just want someone to know that something did." For those of y…
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"I am still hurt and pained by that experience. But- I will say this- I always want to remember how painful that was. Because the empathy I feel for survivors and others victims of trauma today as an investigative reporter helps me tell their stories together and demand justice for them." Lisa Guerrero is a former sports reporter, actress, model, N…
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"I bore the responsibility of trying to protect- most often men- from their own poor behaviors and choices. And that is kind of mindblowing when you start to reflect and think 'huh, this doesn't seem right and why have we allowed this'?" Trish Nelson is a former server of The Spotted Pig in New York City, owned by Ken Friedman and partnered with ch…
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"I started doing Google searches- 'is there life after whistleblowing?'" Desiree is the former Chief Sustainability Officer for financial giant DWS, a subsidiary of Deutsche Bank. Desiree's allegations of greenwashing against her former company led to regulatory investigations on both sides of the Atlantic and a reassessment of how the financial se…
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"The reality is that for the most part, speaking out and speaking up is more of a significant risk than anything." In 2019, Adrienne Lawrence, an on-air personality at ESPN, filed a lawsuit against the sports network for sexual harassment. This experience motivated Adrienne to write a best-selling book about navigating sexual harassment in the work…
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"Liberal institutions, no matter how much we may treasure and admire them, aren't perfect. And it really shouldn't be deemed sacrilege when we point that out." Erin Oberbey is a former archive editor at The New Yorker Magazine. After raising concerns privately to her colleagues, Erin published a Twitter thread on the lack of diversity in the magazi…
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"I had given my life to this institution. You care about the school, you've devoted your professional life to making it a better place, and now you're being attacked by the institution." Cheyney Ryan was a longtime Professor of Philosophy and Law at the University of Oregon where, for years, he urged leaders to take a harder stance on sexual miscon…
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Note: This episode originally aired in September. "There were a lot of people who just wanted to be on the Christie train, and at whatever cost to sacrifice anyone else, they were going to do it." Bridget Kelly, Deputy Chief of Staff to then Governor Chris Christie, was on her way to work when she got a phone call that would change her life forever…
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"We need trustworthy institutions so we can repair so many of our social ails. We get hurt from the betrayal and we could profit, in important ways, from courage." Jennifer Joy Freyd is a psychologist, researcher and the founder and president of The Center for Institutional Courage. She pioneered the concept of intuitional courage and its opposite,…
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Friday, December 14, 2012. It was a clear, crisp, and trouble-free start that morning at Sandy Hook Elementary School. Classrooms filled with kids excited for Christmas, just 11 days away. The school day started, as they always had, with a comforting routine. 9 A M, children settling into their classrooms. 9:10 A M, the pledge of allegiance. 9:15 A…
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"A lot of my success was due to my ability to keep my mouth shut, and what I discovered was when I spoke up, all of a sudden the rules of the game had changed." Jamie Fiore Higgins worked as a managing director at Goldman Sachs. One of just 8 percent of Goldman employees to earn the managing director title, she was the highest-ranking woman in her …
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"There was so much sexual harassment and expectation of women who worked there to behave a certain way, be the cool girl and accept rape jokes." Cher Scarlett is a high school drop out, teenage single mother and a former drug addict who taught herself how to code and rose to become a software engineer at companies such as Apple, Blizzard and Starbu…
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Note: This episode originally aired in September. "She Said," a feature film about Zelda, New York Times journalists Megan Twohey and Jodi Kantor and other women fighting to expose the sexual abuse allegations against Harvey Weinstein, is now in theaters across the U.S. Zelda Perkins is the former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. She speaks with Juli…
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"You have to live with yourself every day. Can you say you did everything you were supposed to do to try to do what was right? Were you vocal about it?" Kristen Shaughnessy is a former anchorwoman at NY1, New York's local television station. In 2019, Kristen and four other anchorwomen sued NY1's parent company for age and gender discrimination. The…
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"My number one goal from the beginning was for this to not happen to anyone else." Katie Brennan was campaign volunteer for New Jersey Governor, Phil Murphy's first campaign. In April 2017, Brennan attended a party where she says she was assaulted by one of Murphy's senior aids. For months she tried to get justice, even contacting Governor Murphy h…
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"I felt I had an obligation to protect him because so few Black men succeed." Alexia Norton Jones grew up in the world of music and literature. Her father is the former speech writer for Martin Luther King Jr. and her grandfather was the late publisher, W.W Norton. In the late 80s and 90s, she lived in New York and ran in the same social circles as…
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"They casted me out like I was a diseased animal." Helen Miller was a valued employee as a court reporter for the Cook County courthouse in Illinois. After years of enduring sexual harassment, she finally filed a complaint. She was fired two months later. Her own co-workers and close friends retaliated against her, driving her away from her job and…
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"For 243 years the military just accepted that women were not good enough to do this, and there was no argument you could make to get them to change their mind." Daniella Mestyanek Young was born into the third generation of the religious sex cult, the Children of God. She later served as an intelligence officer for the US Army for over six years, …
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"I trusted the process, but the process and the policies and the people failed me." Lisa Bowman's 20-year marketing career led to her dream job, Chief Marketing Officer at "America's Favorite Charity," United Way. Then, with the hiring of a single employee, everything changed, and her dream career came to an end after deciding to speak out against …
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"Being the lone female coming into an all-male squad, I didn't feel it was my place to speak out against it because it was repeatedly drilled into me that I had to accept this." Liani Reyna is a former Portland Police Sergeant and the first and only woman to serve in the city's elite Special Emergency Reaction Team. After joining SERT came a nightm…
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"There were a lot of people who just wanted to be on the Christie train, and at whatever cost to sacrifice anyone else, they were going to do it." Bridget Kelly, Deputy Chief of Staff to then Governor Chris Christie, was on her way to work when she got a phone call that would change her life forever. After working in state government for two decade…
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"The lawyers looked at me and laughed. 'Do you really think Disney is going to sacrifice their biggest cash cow on the word of two young women?'" Zelda Perkins is the former assistant to Harvey Weinstein. She speaks with Julie Roginsky about her fight for justice against the movie mogul after he assaulted her young assistant and of the careers and …
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"If you complained, you got fired." Dorothy Carvello was the first female A&R executive at Atlantic Records. She speaks with Julie Roginsky about the sexism and harassment she endured at the company. The men running Atlantic and other music labels treated women like Dorothy as personal property, doing whatever they wanted without shame. For women l…
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On April 19, 1995, two years to the day following the U.S. government’s botched raid on the Branch Davidian compound near Waco, Texas, a rented truck pulled to the curb in front of the nine story Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in downtown Oklahoma City. Inside the building, about 500 federal employees, and several hundred visitors were beginning…
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He was an extraordinarily gifted athlete, the premier football player of his time, a California golden child who emerged from abject poverty to win the Heisman trophy in college and set records as a pro football running back. Effortless grace and a ready smile eased his transition from ex-athlete to corporate-backed celebrity. All of that changed o…
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The Space Shuttle Challenger flew nine missions into space. But its fateful tenth mission, which lasted only 73 seconds, ensured its tragic place in history. On the morning of January 28, 1986, a crew of seven boarded the Challenger, including a New Hampshire grade school teacher named Christa McAuliffe, representing the aspirations of so-called ‘o…
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Pandemonium reigned in downtown Dallas on the afternoon of November 22, 1963. An assassin's bullet had murdered President John Fitzgerald Kennedy. Within an hour, police had arrested their lead suspect Lee Harvey Oswald, a former Marine and accomplished sharpshooter. On Sunday morning, November 24, with TV cameras in place, and NBC airing it live, …
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“War of The Worlds” is a phenomenon of a bygone era, and of a medium a hundred years old, yet its lessons resonate to this day. It’s the original “deepfake of 1938.” A radio drama about an alien invasion but presented as “breaking news,” scared the daylights out the nation. On the evening of October 30, 1938, radio listeners across the U.S. heard a…
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As long and vast as the history of our country may seem to us, the right of women to vote is shockingly new. Many of us had parents or grandparents who were born before women’s voting rights were codified. In fact, you just heard the famous suffragette Alice Paul report the news: The State of Tennessee ratified the 19th Amendment to the Constitutio…
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A 31-year-old enslaved man named Nathanial “Nat” Turner, who was both literate and a preacher in the Virginia slave community, led a bloody two-day uprising in Southampton, Virginia. Known as both “preacher Nat” and “general Nat” to his followers, Turner and six other hatchet-wielding disciples began their rebellion by killing Turner’s own master, …
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September 11, 2001 dawned crisp and blue in New York City. The gathering hum of a seemingly ordinary workday began taking shape in lower Manhattan. Then the ‘ordinary’ was shattered by the extraordinary. The world changing event that unfolded that morning was unimaginable and unprecedented. It was a sneak attack of epic proportions on American soil…
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It was the election that did not decide the presidency, and the biggest media debacle since “Dewey Defeats Truman.” The 2000 campaign between presidential candidates George W. Bush and Al Gore was shaping up as a cliffhanger. Pundits predicted that its outcome would hinge on results from a few key states - Ohio, Michigan, and most of all, Florida. …
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It was the darkest nightmare of every parent come to life - and it happened in the land of “It can’t happen here.” The setting was Littleton, Colorado, a comfortably middle-class suburb of Denver, a place where people come to raise a family, and where the arch over a hallway at local Columbine High School is inscribed with the motto: “The finest ki…
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She was a princess who never lived happily ever after - and the world loved her for it. Diana Spencer became a global celebrity when she wedded England’s Prince Charles in July 1981. But the fairy tale marriage soon unraveled, and, after no end of adulterous revelations and public separations, finally ended in divorce. But Diana remained a princess…
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The first reports from Los Angeles had an all-too familiar ring - a black motorist who had been stopped by police for drunk driving was pulled out of his car and beaten by several white officers. But this time, the entire incident was captured on a bystander’s video camera, then broadcast via television around the world. When the offending officers…
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When Ronald Reagan was elected president in November 1980, he hoped to defy an unusually grim circumstance of that office. In the seven previous even-numbered decades, every U.S. President had died in office - four times from assassin’s bullets. A few months later on March 30, 1981, as President Reagan strolled outside the Washington Hilton Hotel, …
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It was the finale to a decade of turbulence and upheaval, but this time it was an event through which a nation could put aside its differences and stand together to marvel at the achievement. In 1961, President John F. Kennedy had pledged that before the sixties were over, an American would walk on the moon. The enormity of the mission aside, one q…
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He was a man in the prime of life when he traveled to Dallas, Texas in November 1963, on a routine political fence-mending mission to help shore up his chances for re-election as president the following year. At about twenty five minutes past noon on November 22, he was riding in an open convertible with his wife through downtown Dallas, waving to …
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It was the biggest overseas military operation in the biggest war in world history - and its best kept secret as well. D Day demonstrated radio’s ability to carry news with clarity and immediacy. And while reporters like Robert Trout, Edward R. Murrow, and Richard C. Hottelet became household names, it was the ingenuity of an NBC stringer reporter …
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The Hindenburg was an engineering masterpiece, an airship as large and as grand as the Titanic - and as doomed. On May 6, 1937, a young radio reporter named Herbert Morrison was on hand to record the Hindenburg’s arrival at Lakehurst, New Jersey. Instead, Morrison helped radio to broadcast one of modern history’s great disasters, as it suddenly unf…
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