With decades of combined experience in the media industry, Joe Ovies and Joe Giglio bring an insider's and recently earned outsider's perspective on North Carolina sports. From NC State, North Carolina, and Duke to the rest of the ACC, the Carolina Hurricanes, and the Carolina Panthers, follow Ovies and Giglio on your favorite podcast platforms and turn on notifications to stay up to date on all their latest episodes.
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Love a good hunting story? This is the podcast for you. Each episode is a real story told from a real hunter. There may be an occasional name you recognize but for the most part this podcast features average joes just like you! Real guys and girls with real stories about their hunting experiences. Deer, turkey, elk, ducks...if there's a story to be told we will tell it!
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God, games and geekery is a series of devotionals about the crossroads of our faith & our fandom. @BadGamerElite, an average joe who loves God and video games, will share his insights about the two and how they relate to each other and the human experience.
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Ever wondered about your thoughts on certain topics and issues and asked yourself if its normal that your views/perspective align with most people...OR NOT? RELAX.. this is totally normal. On this podcast we talk about anything and everything and nothing is off topic... politics, sports, pop culture, religion, and you know.. life in general. We try to be as neutral as possible. We are on all podcasting platforms ! Social: Subscribe and follow thanks ! Instagram: averagejoeexperience Facebook ...
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Hey there! I sit and chat with a wide ranging set of individuals from both inside and on the outside of the Tabletop/RPG/Boardgame industry about their experience, insight, & motivations. Put on a show whilst you are painting and hear the stories behind your fellow geekers and the people that created the games you know and love. I hope you enjoy.
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Satisfied with being an average trial attorney? This isn't the podcast for you. Welcome to Trial Lawyers University (TLU), the ultimate playbook for lawyers that want to achieve trial immortality. Hosted by TLU founder and veteran trial attorney Dan Ambrose, this power-packed podcast features in-depth interviews with Top Ranked Trial Lawyers, including Brian Panish, Keith Mitnik, Joe Fried, Zoe Littlepage, Rex Parris, John Romano, Sach Oliver, Jakob Norman, Dino Colombo, Lloyd Bell, Chris Fi ...
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What if you got 3% better every day? We are three guys that are creating a movement of improving oneself in the company of other great minds. You become the average of the five people that you most closely surround yourself with. Join us on a mission of self improvement and create change every day. The only person you should be competing with is the person you were yesterday. There is power in ONE.
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A football discussion Podcast hosted by Nick Bramley & Dom Hanrahan. Two "Men of a Certain Age" with years of experience as fans of the live & televised game in England and around Europe..... Both long-standing season ticket holders at the Riverside Stadium, Middlesbrough, where we met over a Bovril and a Pie, with Dom also, almost uniquely we guess also being a long-standing season ticket holder at Everton with his daughter, as he lives in the Wirral. He would not be seen dead in a half & h ...
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Motorcycle Dad with Tito is a podcast about the powersports industry without a filter. After getting out of the Marine Corps I decided to chase a dream of working on motorcycles. Now as a business owner and stay at home dad I want to give back to the industry that has given me so much. This podcast is about growing the sport we love and building a community of all kinds of motorcyclist. In the podcast I’ll have tips for the average Joe customer, and shop talk for the Pro’s. It’s just like si ...
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Ep 262: Mental Health Awareness Day (Mark)
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1:14:10This week I talk to Mark, we spoke back in episode 248 about him and his hobby history. This time we are speaking a bit about mental health. Today, the 10th of October 2025 marks mental health awareness day. Mark messaged me a while ago and wanted to put something together for it, so thanks Mark, nice one, we appreciate your care about this subject…
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Alex Ivanov - From Belarus KGB to Dallas Courtrooms
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1:16:30Alex Ivanov’s journey to Angel Reyes & Associates in Texas started when he fled his native Belarus after refusing KGB recruitment, arriving in America at age 21 with $380. Just three years into trying cases, he secured his first seven-figure verdict on a non-surgical pain management case where the defense offered only $90K on a $250K policy. How? L…
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Stanley Cup or Bust? Canes open season | Do your job, Bill Belichick | Seth Jarvis conversation
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2:00:34Game 1 is here for the Carolina Hurricanes. Are they built to win the Stanley Cup? Seth Jarvis joins Joe and Joe for a conversation about his eventful 2025 and what's to come in 2026. Free advice for Bill Belichick: Do your job! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.comfor information about our collection and use of pers…
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OG Business: The Business of Belichick Has Officially Gone Bust at UNC
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25:38The business of Belichick has officially gone bust. Joe Ovies and Demetri Ravanos break down how North Carolina’s high-stakes gamble on the legendary NFL coach has backfired — fast. The Tar Heels brought in Bill Belichick to spark donations, drive ticket sales, and boost TV ratings. Instead, after a 2–3 start and blowout losses to TCU, UCF, and Cle…
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Ep. 240 Act Like Men & Hunting Stories With Joby Martin
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52:33Send Travis a Text Message Today we are joined by Pastor Joby Martin of Jacksonville, Florida. Joby comes on and tells some awesome hunting stories and experiences. We also get to hear some awesome concepts from his new book that is coming out this week: Stand Firm & Act Like Men: Becoming the Man You Were Created to Be Instead of Who the World Say…
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ACC Tipoff convos w/ Will Wade, Jon Scheyer, Steve Forbes & more | UNC working on Belichick exit strategy? | Hoops predictions | 10.08
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1:42:21Ovies & Giglio are live from ACC Tipoff in Charlotte, where basketball takes center stage…even if the Belichick circus in Chapel Hill is stealing some headlines. The guys react to Andrew Jones’ latest report about UNC exploring exit strategies from the Bill Belichick era — and why Hubert Davis and the Heels are the perfect palate cleanser for Tar H…
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Hubert Davis, Seth Tremble on fresh start at UNC | ACC Women's Hoops primer | Today in Belichick | 10.7
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Why being 'averagely bad' is GOOD for the Carolina Panthers | Eric Mac Lain on ACC | Belichick & Lombardi think we're all stupid | 10.6
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The Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast - Episode 15
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48:49On this Episode 15 of the Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast with Nick & Dom, we discuss TWO issues that are currently being discussed at length. 1. The Proposed Changes to the Championship Playoffs 2. The Saturday 3.00pm TV Blackout In terms of the proposed Championship Playoff changes, why wouldn't Championship Chairmen vote for an increase in pl…
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Move, Bill, get out the way: Clemson acts a fool on UNC, fans rollout on Belichick | OG After Dark
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42:34Clemson came to Chapel Hill and said move, Bill...get out the way. The Tigers rolled out southern hospitality in the worst way from the start — dropping 35 points on North Carolina in the first half. What's your fantasy, Belichick haters? Gotta think the Heels once again looking ill-prepared for Power 4 competition would be on that number one spot.…
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OG Mailbag: What happens after Doeren? | Rooting for Belichick to fail? | Getting 'left behind'
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35:02In this week’s OG Mailbag, brought to you by The Butcher’s Market, the guys run through several OG Sports Phone calls. Dave Doeren's future at NC State? Is everyone rooting for Belichick to fail at UNC? Is there such a thing as trying to hire a coach under perfect market conditions? And more! Want the full OG Mailbag? It's just $5/month! Sign up fo…
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Will Meekins and Ryan McCollum - What We Got Out of the Joe Fried TLU Trucking Bootcamp: Practice, Practice, Practice
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1:49:38Two North Carolina attorneys who served their country and are now serving their clients discuss what they gained from the Trial Lawyer University’s Joe Fried Trucking Bootcamp. Will Meekins, with two years of experience handling catastrophic injury cases in western North Carolina, and Ryan McCollum with three civil trials under his belt in Raleigh,…
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Ep 261: Why I love Gangs of Rome and Wild West Exodus (Jon Dawson)
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1:27:03This week I talk to Jon Dawson once again, he was on back on Episode 240, this time he is talking about why he loved Gangs of Rome and Wild West Exodus. Nuff'sed.... PATM Discord Server Link: https://discord.gg/eHYTf4Z7t4
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UNC vs. Clemson 'Narrative Bowl' | CFP Contenders Emerging | B1G's $2B Private Capital Play | Atlantic Reclaiming OBX Homes | 10.2
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1:25:31It’s another Butcher’s Market OG Live. The guys start off highlighting Giglio's growing crush on UNC hoops freshman Caleb Wilson. There's actual hype and excitement in Chapel Hill for what's about to happen on the court. Can't really say the same about football. The Heels host Clemson is what is shaping up to be a 'Narrative Bowl' for Belichick and…
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Another lost Panthers NFL Draft class | UNC's QB problem, ACC check-in w/ Wes Durham | Canes vibe check w/ Maniscalco | NC State Fair foods | 10.1
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1:15:29⚾ The guys kick things off with a little Casual Baseball Fan — MLB playoffs are off to a great start…unless you’re a Yankees fan who can’t stand Aaron Boone. 🏈 In the NFL, the Carolina Panthers waived DJ Johnson, the latest member of the 2023 draft class to flame out. It’s more proof of the bigger problems under David Tepper’s ownership. 🏟️ ESPN’s …
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OG Business: What's happening at WRAL? | Taylor Swift out, 'Super Bunny' Halftime Show in
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23:22Joe Ovies and Demetri Ravanos dig into The Assembly’s profile on WRAL, spotlighting revealing quotes from Jimmy Goodmon, the fourth-generation president of Capitol Broadcasting. They also break down the NFL’s surprise move to tap Bad Bunny for the Super Bowl Halftime Show, shelving those Taylor Swift rumors in favor of an international play. Plus, …
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Why Belichick doesn’t deserve patience at UNC | NFL coming down to Eagles & Bills already? | 'Casual Baseball Fan' returns | 9.30
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1:29:54The latest episode of Ovies & Giglio kicks off in the NFL, where injuries and penalties are dragging down the product. Still, early signs point to a possible Super Bowl collision course between the Philadelphia Eagles and Buffalo Bills. Meanwhile, Carolina Panthers fans — remember, it could always be worse. TarHeel247’s Andrew Jones joins the show …
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Ranking Dave Doeren’s WORST losses at NC State | Carolina Panthers torch remaining goodwill | Raucous Ryder Cup | OG Sports Phone | 9.29
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1:44:11The latest episode of Ovies & Giglio opens with NC State’s loss to Virginia Tech. Was it the worst defeat of the Dave Doeren era? Many Wolfpack fans think so, but Joe and Joe rank the disappointments and explain why Saturday’s letdown doesn’t even crack the Top 5. Meanwhile, Duke is staking its claim atop Triangle Good Mountain. With Manny Diaz fin…
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The Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast - Episode 14
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49:14On this Episode 14 of the Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast with Nick & Dom, we might just be hankering back for a better footballing time. Discussing a subject suggested by regular listeners, Simon & Michelle Jennison, we look at whether Football Was Better 10-15 Years Ago? Has the 2008 - 2010 Pep Tikka Taka Revolution Gone Far Too Far? Are Man C…
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OG Mailbag: Can you respect Duke football? | Hot Ryder Cup takes | Belichick actually cooked?
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33:38In this week’s OG Mailbag, brought to you by The Butcher’s Market, the guys dig into whether it’s finally time to take Duke football seriously, react to fan feedback from their interviews with NC State’s Will Wade and American commissioner Tim Pernetti, and tackle some big questions: Is Bill Belichick officially cooked? Does Giglio have a hot Ryder…
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Ep 260: Dave Schmidt (Author and Fellow Hobby Nerd)
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1:31:15This week I talk to Dave Schmidt. Dave is not only a hobby nerd like us but he is also a self published author. He writes the Clay and Aether saga and he’s not done! He is writing more books as we speak, maybe at this very moment, so be quiet, dont disrupt him. It was great to talk to Dave, he is one of our own, he’s been a member of the PATM disco…
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Will Wade on rebooting NC State, embracing UNC/Duke rivalries | Week 5 college football picks | 9.25
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1:39:35It’s another Butcher’s Market OG Live, and Ovies & Giglio are looking ahead to a busy weekend in college football. Will NC State stumble against Virginia Tech? Can Duke build on their win over the Wolfpack when they face a hot Syracuse squad? In the Top 25, there’s family heat in LSU vs. Ole Miss and Alabama could be in a full-blown pressure cooker…
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OG Business: Kimmel is back, but will Trump let it go? | Have local affiliates lost leverage?
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22:31In this episode of OG Business, Joe & Demetri dive deep into the latest in media, sports, and controversy. They unpack Jimmy Kimmel’s return — is it really over, or will Trump’s next distraction and ABC’s leverage with affiliates (hello, football) reshape the battle? Or could the FCC drag ABC into a drawn-out fight? Plus! Tom Brady addresses confli…
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American commish Tim Pernetti convo | Carolina Panthers are the 'Reapers' | Gundy, Doeren & the carousel | 9.24
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1:29:08The guys welcome American commissioner Tim Pernetti for a wide-ranging conversation. How did his experience leading Rutgers into the Big Ten prepare him for positioning an entire conference against the Power 4? What’s ahead for college football with major TV contracts expiring in 2030, and what role will private equity play in shaping the sport’s f…
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Officially Triangle hoops season | Can Carolina Panthers stack wins over weak schedule? | NC Baseball Museum | 9.23
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1:25:55Ovies & Giglio open with the ACC’s move to a 9-game football schedule before shifting gears to hoops, where NC State’s Will Wade and UNC freshman Caleb Wilson have fans ready to lock in on Triangle basketball. Underwhelming football results have once again reminded everyone that the real fire on Tobacco Road burns on the court. Julian Council from …
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Ep. 239 Bull Elk Down! A 2025 Montana Elk Hunt Recap
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2:00:19Send Travis a Text Message We are back from our 2025 Montana elk hunt and what a hunt it was. On the way home my brother Jacob and I unpack the incredible experience. We lay out how the 7 day hunt all went down and what led to a nice bull hitting the ground.By Travis Williams: Shedding Light Stories
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Duke atop 'Triangle Good' Mountain | Doeren has Pack fans restless | Belichick looks checked out at UNC | What's up with Hurricanes interest in McLeod? | 9.22
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1:46:49The latest Ovies & Giglio dives into a packed weekend of football (and a little hockey drama). The guys start with Duke’s win over NC State, where Giglio wonders if Dave Doeren can survive a restless Wolfpack fanbase. Manny Diaz and the Blue Devils get their flowers before the focus shifts to Bill Belichick at UNC — another embarrassing Big 12 loss…
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The Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast - Episode 13
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51:40On this Episode 13 of the Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast with Nick & Dom, we look at what we describe as the "Murky" World of Multi-Club Ownership. This was a subject suggested by regular listener, Steve Atkinson - Thanks Steve. This is a subject that vexes and annoys many regular football fans, and whilst we are not experts, we do have our own…
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Duke vs NC State came down to who made fewest mistakes | UNC embarrassed at UCF | OG After Dark
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1:03:57It was a wild Saturday in the ACC. Duke vs NC State was the high scoring affair we all expected, but nobody could've have predicted it Wolfpack QB CJ Bailey's turnover filled performance. Down in Florida, North Carolina was embarrassed by UCF. The Tar Heels don't look prepared and Bill Belichick looks over it. Ovies & Giglio react to all the action…
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OG Mailbag: AP Top 25 voting process | Was Doeren talked out of retiring? | Stolen Carhartt valor
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33:03In this week’s OG Mailbag, Ovies & Giglio tackle everything from how the AP Top 25 voting process really works to whether rocking Carhartt counts as “stolen valor.” Before Giglio gets into the rumor NC State talked Dave Doeren out of retiring last season, he finally hears the infamous Casey Kasem radio outtake. Plus, does Ovies actually hate Bill B…
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Ep.238 2025 Montana Elk Hunt-The Ride Out
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1:31:12Send Travis a Text Message Today I’m in the truck with my 3 elk hunting partners as we head out to Montana. I have a one on one conversation with each of them and hear some of their great hunting stories along with our gameplan for the upcoming hunt. Stay tuned for the ride back!By Travis Williams: Shedding Light Stories
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Ep 259: Jordan Heckman (County Road Z)
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1:28:59This week I talk to Rodman Hellman, you’ll get that joke in a bit. We talk about what has been happening for him since we spoke back in 2017 and then go on to talk about his rule set County Road Z. County Road Z is a co op post apocalyptic game, it sounds super fun and it is one on my christmas/birthday list. I’m not going to go into the show more …
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NC State vs. Duke & other ACC picks | Manny Diaz convo | Carolina Hurricanes burning questions | 9.18
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1:37:27It's time for another Butcher's Market OG Live. Ovies & Giglio welcome CBS Sports’ Chip Patterson to break down a busy college football weekend, including NC State’s road trip to Duke, UNC’s final “preseason” matchup with UCF, and why Dabo Swinney seems to be crashing out over a 1-2 start at Clemson. Plus, Duke head coach Manny Diaz joins the show …
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Are college football coaches OK? | Dabo sounds off on doubters | Belichick already lost national interest? | Tom Brady above the rules | 9.17
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1:33:29Demetri Ravanos fills in for Giglio on the latest Ovies & Giglio, and the guys dive right into how wild this college football hiring cycle could get. They ask the big question: are coaches OK? LSU’s Brian Kelly is apologizing to reporters, while Clemson’s Dabo Swinney went on a 13-minute rant after a simple question about losing to Georgia Tech. Is…
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Steve Smith blasts Charlotte as a “weak ass city” over Carolina Panthers fans | Not all 0-2 NFL teams are the same | Social Media Dump | 9.16
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1:30:45In this episode of Ovies & Giglio, an amusing grocery store run-in that perfectly sums up how NC State fans feel about Dave Doeren — even when the Wolfpack are winning, it doesn’t always feel that way. But no fan base is more down bad than those in Charlotte right now. The Carolina Panthers are 0-2, the vibes are awful, and even former WR Steve Smi…
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Duke struggles, another empty Belichick win | Panthers, Canales & Young out of sync, out of time | Virginia Tech resets again | 9.15
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1:48:49In this episode of Ovies & Giglio, the guys dig into Duke football’s back-to-back missed opportunities against quality opponents and another “empty calorie” win for Bill Belichick at UNC. They shift to Clemson’s loss at Georgia Tech, where the Yellow Jackets deserve all the credit, but Dabo Swinney still has plenty to answer for as the Tigers look …
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The Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast - Episode 12
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52:45On this Episode 12 of the Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast with Nick & Dom, we look at the impact of Stadiums on fans, clubs and areas such as attracting players, investment and future growth. We look at the recent opening of the Hill Dickinson at Everton - how is the fan experience, where does it leave the old Goodison superstitions, match day r…
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OG Mailbag: Is Doeren a 'Disney Adult' the way he's got NC State riding rollercoasters?
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37:19Ovies & Giglio fire up the OG Mailbag and take you on the ultimate Wolfpack roller coaster. With the help of the OG Sports Phone, they revisit NC State fan calls from the lows of Wake Forest being up a couple scores to the highs of Dave Doeren pulling the “Negativity Wagon” across the finish line. The guys also dive into your questions about why Gi…
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Ep. 237 Killing Someone Else's Giant Buck and other stories with Russ From High Pressure Hunting
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1:00:49Send Travis a Text Message Today I talk with Russ from High Pressure Hunting YouTube channel. We talk about his buddy getting spurred by a turkey and several public land big buck. We also talk about how he shot a large buck and found a crossbow bolt in its spine. You can check out his channel at High Pressure Hunting and see some of his videos belo…
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Ep 258: Alex (Alex Paints Tiny Things Youtube Channel)
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1:21:18This week I talk to Alex of the Alex Paints Tiny Things Youtube channel. We have the usual rambly chat about his hobby history, likes, and highlights. We dig into a big of competitive painting, and a whole bunch of other stuff. I am pretty sure I mention it in the show, but I generalise Scottish people a little in the show, I just wanted to ensure …
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NC State, UNC & Duke: Week 3 ACC football picks | NC Rabbit Hole investigates 'Aye Zigga Zoomba' | 9.11
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1:26:48It's time for another Butcher's Market OG Live. In this episode of Ovies & Giglio, the guys are live at Longleaf Swine in Raleigh ahead of NC State's trek to Wake Forest. They'll get into that matchup and more, including another "figure it out" game for UNC and a homecoming of sorts for Duke QB Darian Mensah. Giglio has some wagering advice for the…
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OG Business: Are the Carolina Panthers worth covering? | What NIN teaches us about the media biz
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18:57On this episode of OG On Business, Joe Ovies and Demetri Ravanos kick things off with an unlikely media lesson from a Nine Inch Nails concert before diving into the big question: are the Carolina Panthers even worth covering right now? The franchise’s struggles on the field may have already cost them multiple generations of new fans. The guys also …
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Spencer Hall on appreciating Doeren, whether Belichick matters | SEC complaining about B1G is rich | How NIL is impacting youth hockey | 9.10
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1:35:33Ovies & Giglio kick things off with the ACC basketball schedule and how the league keeps chipping away at the core matchups fans actually care about. From there, they pivot to the NCAA Oversight Committee’s push for a single transfer portal window in college football — something some coaches want and others hate. The guys also dive into the latest …
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Eric Oliver - Bringing 41 Years of Experience to the Trial Story Bootcamp
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1:40:47In 1984, Eric Oliver was teaching persuasion skills to marketeers in computer firms. When he transitioned to trial consulting that year, he found a new audience. In two years, “lawyers took all my time…because nobody had ever taught persuasion, influence, and communication to attorneys at that time. They still don't.” In this wide-ranging discussio…
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Are fans overreacting to Carolina Panthers Week 1 loss? | College QBs vs. NFL QBs | Social Media Dump
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1:26:13Ovies & Giglio kick things off by remembering some football dudes after JJ McCarthy led a Monday Night Football comeback for the Vikings. Winning a national championship doesn’t always guarantee NFL QB greatness—and Ovies argues it’s really about the league scrambling to find a new golden age of quarterbacks now that only Josh Allen and Lamar Jacks…
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Doeren’s "Complementary Football 2.0" at NC State, Duke’s costly mistakes vs Illinois & Belichick’s petty UNC win | Same ol' Panthers fall flat, frustrate fans | OG Sports Phone | 9.08
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1:42:25The latest episode of Ovies & Giglio kicks off with college football takeaways — NC State’s win over Virginia, Duke’s missed opportunity against Illinois, and some yellow flags popping up despite UNC’s victory over Charlotte. The guys pivot to the NFL, where the Carolina Panthers delivered another flat Week 1 performance. So much for the supposed “…
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The Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast - Episode 11
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59:20On this Episode 11 of the Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast with Nick & Dom, we take the first (interminable) international break as the opportunity for us to reflect on what we have seen or experienced in the short season to date - much of which has annoyed us. No spoilers, but fair to say we don't both agree on everything.... A slightly longer e…
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The Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast - Episode 10
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30:44As we are in the midst of the first international break of the new season, we have recorded and released a special Friday, pre-weekend Episode 10 of the Half & Half Scarf Football Podcast celebrating all things non-league football. We want to encourage match-going fans in particular who cannot watch their usual Premier League, Championship or even …
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Bill Belichick’s Patriots grudge is sabotaging UNC? | 'Salty Dave' back at NC State? | Canes uniform reviews | OG Mailbag
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34:31In this edition of Ovies & Giglio's OG Mailbag, the guys dig into your burning questions — starting with Bill Belichick reportedly banning New England Patriots scouts from UNC practices and games. Is his ego and arrogance the very thing holding the Tar Heels back from operating like a real college football program? And speaking of coaching legends,…
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Ep 257: Stephen Baker (Heroquest, Space Crusade, Battle Masters, et al)
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1:26:17This week I talk to Stephen Baker the world renowned game designer. Stephen’s work includes but is not limited to Heroquest, Battle Masters, and Space Crusade. This is the first of….some podcasts Stephen and I will have. I wanted to take the time to get to know him and really discuss things as opposed to rushing or just him feeling like we were sup…
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