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S9E7 - UK Indie: The 1975 (Overrated) and Bombay Bicycle Club (Underrated) - with Joe from Tastes Like Music
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1:22:48Joined by podcaster and YouTuber Joe from the Tastes Like Music channel, we're in Blighty discussing two modern rock bands... The 1975 are one of the few recent British indie bands who have broken through in the USA - and many other countries besides, with NME coining the term "Healywave" to describe the scope of their influence. But what do we thi…
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S9E6 - Pop Singer-Songwriters Part III: Taylor Swift (Overrated) and Baby Queen (Underrated)
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1:29:29We are tackling a behemoth today! We've wanted to talk about Taylor Swift for a long time, so we collaborated on a playlist that broadly covers all of her eras...will we think she's a Mastermind or more of an Anti-Hero? For today's underrated pick, Fran chose South African artist Baby Queen. Her songs have been featured on the TV show Heartstopper …
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S9E5 - Special Episode: Interviewing Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer
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1:21:11Joined by chap-hop pioneer Mr.B The Gentleman Rhymer, we have a wide-ranging chat about his latest album B-Curious, what it was like for him supporting Sparks on tour, the realities of the UK live music scene and what five songs he thinks are underrated and worth sharing with a wider audience... Mr.B will be at this year's Edinburgh Fringe Festival…
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S9E4 - US Alternative Rock: Pixies (Overrated) & Sonic Youth (Underrated)
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1:33:38We're discussing two North American behemoths this month! "In 1988, the Pixies sounded like no other band. By 1991, every band sounded like the Pixies" - the Boston band's influence is undeniable, especially from the four albums they made in this time period. But how does the rest of their back catalogue sound - and are they nevertheless overhyped?…
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S9E3 - Indie Pop: Pulp (Overrated) & Spector (Underrated) - with Helen Sadler
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1:42:03Joined once again by Helen Sadler from the Flixwatcher podcast, we're being nostalgic about the 90's and assessing more recent British rock... Pulp are a quintessential Britpop band - with an arguably unique frontman spouting witty lyrics...but how do we feel about their smash hits - as well as the lesser-known songs from their back catalogue? An…
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S9E2 - Australia Part IV: Tame Impala (Overrated) & DZ Deathrays (Underrated)
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1:38:04We're back in the Southern hemisphere for the fourth time on this podcast (and apologise again for any attempts at an Aussie accent...)! Tame Impala, a.k.a. the brainchild of Kevin Parker, is currently in the top 200 most-listened to artists worldwide on Spotify - but will we think his particular flavour of psychedelic-electro-pop is original or bl…
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S9E1 - Scotland: Simple Minds (Overrated) & Idlewild (Underrated)
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1:35:01We are back in Alba for the first episode of our latest season, which will continue to be released monthly! Fran has been a Simple Minds fan for a while - the band has 19 albums to their name, but Fran knows most people only know a few of their hits. He hopes his ten-track playlist introduces Babs and our listeners to lesser-known Simple Minds gems…
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S8E10 - New York Rock: KISS (Overrated) & Teen Girl Scientist Monthly (Underrated) - with Matt Latham
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1:34:30Joined for the second time by podcaster Matt Latham - whose output includes the Pick A Disc podcast - we are back in the biggest of apples to discuss two quite different bands... KISS have nailed the marketing of their band probably better than any other group - but what do we think about their music, especially as most people in Europe only know a…
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S8E9 - Special Episode: Fran and Babs' Best of 2024, Part II
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50:57As has become tradition, we have each picked our ten favourite tunes of the year! Like in 2023 & 2022, we have picked songs according to pre-determined categories - however as we spoke quite a lot during this episode, we've divided it into two parts - you can already listen to Part I here. In Part II, we discuss the best rock song, favourite collab…
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S8E8 - Special Episode: Fran and Babs' Best of 2024, Part I
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51:49As has become tradition, we have each picked our ten favourite tunes of the year! Like in 2023 & 2022, we have picked songs according to pre-determined categories - however as we spoke quite a lot during this episode, we've divided it into two parts (the next one will be out on New Year's Day)... In Part I, we discuss the best song by a group, favo…
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S8E7 - British Pop: Dua Lipa (Overrated) & Sugababes (Underrated) - with Sam Lake
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1:35:16Joined by comedian and podcaster Sam Lake, we're talking about one of the most successful British contemporary popstars (and where Sam listens to her songs while he's at the gym), and one of the girl bands we're most fond of (as well as which snack Sam associates with each of their songs). Dua Lipa is a mega pop star - she has the two most streamed…
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S8E6 - Hip-hop Part II: Eminem (Overrated) & cupcakKe (Underrated)
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1:30:57It's been a while since we did a hip-hop episode and today we've picked two quite different acts to discuss in this episode! Eminem is one of the world's most successful rappers, who definitely helped popularise hip-hop among white audiences - however, he has always courted controversy with his deliberately caustic lyrics...Fran has toured his disc…
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S8E5 - Pop Singer-Songwriters, Part II: P!nk (Overrated) & Annie (Underrated)
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55:40We're back in the world of pop, having previously discussed Billie Eilish and Charli xcx last season (and Charli xcx's BRAT in this season too)! The two playlists for this episode were created by Pop Underrated, whose Linktree you should check out. P!nk is currently ranked as Spotify's 100th most-popular artist in the world - she has gone through m…
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S8E4 - Special Episode: Charli xcx's album 'BRAT'
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53:01Why hello there people who snag their tights on lawn chairs, mean girls and those who think everything is romantic - don't worry if you don't understand what this means, join us anyway for a special episode where we discuss Charli xcx's latest album BRAT in depth - the songs and the cultural impact it is currently having this summer... We'd previou…
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S8E3 - Dance-punk: Foals (Overrated) & Tom Vek (Underrated)
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1:30:27We're back to the noughties, discussing two British indie acts who have more than a flavour of electro in their tunes... Babs never really got into Foals after their first record, so she asked Fran to make a wide-ranging playlist - how will they rate the Oxford band's career? And Babs is delighted to finally delve deep into Tom Vek's back catalogue…
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S8E2 - 80s Synth Pop: Eurythmics (Overrated) & Deux (Underrated) - with George Pringle
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1:22:00We're travelling to one of our favourite eras, joined by special guest George Pringle - a music producer, artist & gallery owner. George made both playlists for this week's episode, and we start with a discussion about Eurythmics. Their influence in synth pop is undeniable - as was Annie Lennox's look, attitude and progressive politics - but is the…
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S8E1 - UK 00's Indie Explosion, Part II: Arctic Monkeys (Overrated) & The Cooper Temple Clause (Underrated)
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1:30:29Welcome back to Season 8! Delighted our lockdown project continues, thanks so much for listening. We're back in the noughties, and our overrated pick is a hugely popular rock band that neither of us are particularly keen on, especially since their first album...nevertheless, Babs made a wide-ranging playlist of Arctic Monkeys songs so her and Fran …
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S7E10 - Special Episode: Fran and Babs' Best of 2023
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1:36:15The final episode of the season is our annual special where we each pick our favourite songs of the year! Like in 2022, we have picked songs according to pre-determined categories: favourite song by a solo act, best song by a group, favourite track in a genre we don't normally like, favourite song not in English, best collaboration, best sync song,…
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S7E9 - Avant-pop: Björk (Overrated) & Bat for Lashes (Underrated)
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1:26:31Fran & Babs listened to (almost) the entirety of Björk's discography - having only previously dipped in and out of her music - and collaborated on a ten-track playlist spanning the decades to properly deliberate on her music and legacy... Natasha Khan a.k.a Bat for Lashes is this week's underrated artist - Fran thinks she has many good songs beyond…
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S7E8 - Australia Part III 🇦🇺 INXS (Overrated) & The Go-Betweens (Underrated) - with Bill Cummings
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1:31:21Joined by writer & broadcaster Bill Cummings, we're returning down under to discuss two bands who experienced wildly varying levels of success... INXS have sold a whopping 95 million albums worldwide - they're one of Australia's most successful musical acts ever. With their crisp new wave sound and iconic frontman, will Fran & Babs feel the hype is…
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S7E7 - Special Episode: Overrated & Underrated Cover Versions
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1:30:34We often discuss covers, so it was about time for a special episode dedicated to the ones we admire, as well as those we don't love so much... We've picked ten overrated cover versions - those that are better known than the originals or ones we don't enjoy - as well as ten underrated covers, songs we feel add to, or even improve on, the original. T…
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S7E6 - Britpop Part III: Stereophonics (Overrated) & Ash (Underrated) - with Robin Allender
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1:39:39Joined by musician, comedian and podcaster Robin Allender, we are back feeling nostalgic about the late 90's... Stereophonics are clearly one of the more successful acts to emerge from Wales - to date, their most famous song Dakota has had over 200 million streams on Spotify - but are Fran, Babs or Robin fans of the band? Robin picked Ash as an und…
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S7E5 - Pop Singer-Songwriters, Part I: Billie Eilish (Overrated) & Charli xcx (Underrated)
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1:50:45Billie Eilish is undoubtedly one of the world's most famous pop stars and Babs enjoys quite a few of her songs. She pitches some of her faves - and a couple of not-so-faves - to Fran, as we both ponder whether the hype is justified... Babs also FINALLY gets to chat Fran's ear off about how much she loves Charli xcx. Charli is undeniably also a famo…
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S7E4 - Goth: The Cure (Overrated) & Xmal Deutschland (Underrated) - with Ryan Schaff
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1:34:21Joined by our first ever returning guest - Ryan Schaff, host of The Broken Record Player podcast - we're breaking out the eyeliner, black nail varnish and discussing what makes a band truly goth... Ryan is a huge fan of The Cure - they're in his top five favourite bands of all time - while Fran & Babs don't exactly muster the same level of enthus…
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S7E3 - Special Episode: Underrated music from The Netherlands 🇳🇱 with Lieselotte Smets
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1:28:28Joined by friend of the podcast Lieselotte Smets, we're learning more about the musical landscape of the Netherlands 🇳🇱 Lieselotte is Belgian, but has lived in the Netherlands for many years. Despite being Flemish - and therefore a native Dutch speaker - she realised there was a massive gap in her Netherlands music knowledge, so she has been keenly…
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S7E2 - Post-punk: U2 (Overrated) & The Psychedelic Furs (Underrated)
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1:35:44U2 are obviously one of the biggest bands in the world, with 15 studio albums to date - Fran believes there's a lot of gold in their extensive back catalogue and that some of their albums are more underrated than others...will Babs agree? We also discuss The Psychedelic Furs' back catalogue in some depth - Babs had previously dipped into the band's…
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S7E1 - Special Episode: Interviewing Bob Stanley, music journalist and founder of Saint Etienne
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1:13:18We're kicking off our new season with a very special episode! We're interviewing Bob Stanley, a very talented writer, musician, DJ, and film producer. Since founding the band Saint Etienne, Bob has enjoyed a parallel career as a music journalist. He came on the podcast to talk about two of his books, which - together - span the entire history of po…
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S6E10 - Prog Rock: Emerson, Lake & Palmer (Overrated) & Marillion (Underrated) - with Joz Norris
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1:32:35Joined by comedian, writer & performer Joz Norris, we're finally delving into prog rock for our last episode of the season - and we hope, like us, that you don't take it TOO seriously... Joz picked Emerson, Lake & Palmer as overrated because he feels that they represent the wildest excesses of prog and contribute to its pretentious reputation. With…
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S6E9 - Glam Rock: Queen (Overrated) & The Ark (Underrated) - with Christian Patrick
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1:46:22Joined by content creator, musician, amateur historian, YouTuber, journalist & author Christian Patrick, we're discussing two glam bands on, arguably, the opposite of the fame spectrum this week... First up, another sacred cow under the microscope - we're talking about behemoths Queen, specifically their output from the 70's...like most people, Chr…
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S6E8b - Record Label Special, Part II: Jade Tree Records (Underrated) - with Mark Fraser & Chris Cusack
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1:11:50Joined by Chris & Mark from the Unsung Podcast, it's Part II of our Record Label special, where we're talking about Wilmington, Delaware's Jade Tree Records (check out Part I where we discussed Washington DC's Dischord Records). Fran & Babs hadn't previously heard of Jade Tree Records - and didn't know many of the bands on their roster. Founded in …
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S6E8a - Record Label Special, Part I: Dischord Records (Overrated) - with Mark Fraser & Chris Cusack
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1:13:18Joined by Chris & Mark from the Unsung Podcast, it's a different approach for today's episode - our guests have picked two different record labels and five bands who released records from them to make up each playlist, and we're all discussing whether a label can be classified as overrated or underrated. In Part I we're talking about Washington DC'…
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S6E7b - Special Episode, Reviewing Worst Kept Secret: The Subwoolfer Eurovision Documentary - with extra European guests 🇪🇺
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30:41Following on from our Eurovision 2023 episode, we popped online for a quick chat to talk about an entertaining short film - Worst Kept Secret: The Subwoolfer Documentary which is available on the Eurovision Song Contest YouTube channel. Fans of Eurovision 2022 will definitely remember Subwoolfer, the yellow Norwegian space wolves who managed to kee…
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S6E7 - Special Episode: Eurovision 2023 - with extra European guests 🇪🇺
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1:26:45It's our yearly Eurovision special - we've listened to all 37 songs from this year's competition and picked our five favourite and least favourite tunes. This time, we're also joined by contributors across Europe giving their opinions on the competition and some of the entries we talk about! If you enjoy this episode, you should check out our 2022 …
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S6E6 - Southern Scotland 🏴 Calvin Harris (Overrated) & Frightened Rabbit (Underrated) - with Shane McMenemy
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1:37:17Joined by Shane McMenemy from the Mixtaping Identity podcast, we're talking about one of his all-time favourite bands - as well as a DJ he's not super-keen on. It's not that Shane massively dislikes Calvin Harris (Dumfries), but he feels his music is "cynically-produced and commercially-driven" - Shane feels Calvin is good at capitalising on trends…
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S6E5b - British Singer-Songwriters, Part II: Nick Drake (Underrated) - with Tom Haigh
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1:01:13Friend of the podcast Tom Haigh joins us again - he previously talked about David Bowie in Part I of this British Singer-Songwriters theme - and this time he's talking about musician Nick Drake. An influence on many big artists like R.E.M., Kate Bush and The Cure, Nick Drake's profile was low during his short lifetime - and, argues Tom, still not h…
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S6E5a - British Singer-Songwriters, Part I: David Bowie (Overrated) - with Tom Haigh
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1:12:35Joined by friend of the podcast Tom Haigh, we had such fun chatting to him that it's gonna be another two-parter... Fran & Babs have wanted to talk about David Bowie for ages and Tom is a mega-fan, primed and ready to defend him - he has picked some deeper cuts to introduce lesser-known Bowie tunes to two people who feel that he is, at the very lea…
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S6E4 - Electro: Kraftwerk (Overrated) & Henric de la Cour (Underrated)
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1:29:11While Fran acknowledges Kraftwerk have been a huge influence on many bands he likes, he's never been interested enough to dip into into their back catalogue too heavily...Babs is a fan and hopes to convince Fran that Kraftwerk's source material is worth listening to in more depth... Fran introduces Babs to Henric de la Cour, a solo act who also use…
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S6E3 - Australia Part II 🇦🇺 Jet (Overrated) & King Gizzard & the Lizard Wizard (Underrated) - with Brad LeBaron
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1:33:27Joined by Wisconsinite podcaster and YouTuber Brad LeBaron, we're heading back down under... Melbournites Jet are obviously best known for their smash hit 'Are You Gonna Be My Girl' - but they produced three albums and supported huge acts like the Rolling Stones, Oasis, Green Day and Bruce Springsteen...however, do Fran & Babs agree that a lot of t…
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S6E2 - 90's Rock: Foo Fighters (Overrated) & Feeder (Underrated) - with Jen Dixon
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1:06:51We're joined by Teesside-based singer songwriter Jen Dixon this week, who brings two nostalgic rock bands for discussion.. .Jen is a huge Foo Fighters fan - drumming from a young age, she was especially in awe of Taylor Hawkins...Fran is a Foo Fighters fan and says they're excellent live - but Babs has always felt they're overplayed (and that Dave …
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S6E1 - Leeds Part II: Kaiser Chiefs (Overrated) & The Music (Underrated)
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1:36:51'Ow do! We're back in Yorkshire to discuss two more Leodensian rock bands, having talked about Alt-J and Duels back in our first season... Kaiser Chiefs might be best known for their songs and albums of the noughties, but the band has continued to release music as recently as 2022...Fran has put together a playlist spanning most of their albums so …
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We will be back next week with the first episode of Season Six! Bands we'll be discussing in this series include David Bowie, Queen, Nick Drake, The Ark, King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard, Jet, The Music, Kaiser Chiefs, Kraftwerk, Calvin Harris, Henric de la Cour and Frightened Rabbit. In the meantime, find out what some of our BIGGEST FANS have t…
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S5E13 - Special Episode: Interviewing Chris Olley, Six by Seven
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1:53:51Rounding off this season is a special bumper episode with Chris Olley, musician and lead singer/guitarist from Six by Seven. If these names sound familiar, it's because Fran picked Six by Seven as an underrated band in our previous Nottingham episode - so this conversation is an Over/underrated first! Chris listened to our episode, got in touch and…
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S5E12 - Christmas Special 🎄 with Richard Delahay
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1:20:19Santa Fran & Babs welcome you to our first ever Christmas special! We're joined by festive music appreciator and friend of the podcast Richard Delahay, who has picked his top five overrated & underrated Christmas songs... How much has working in retail and catering traumatised Fran & Richard's reactions to Christmas songs? How much of our conversat…
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S5E11b - Special Episode: Fran & Babs' Best of 2022, Part II
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1:08:07We've wrapped up the year once again, each picking our ten favourite tracks from 2022 and discussing our musical highlights and lowlights. However, this year we've mixed it up a little 🍸 and assigned each of our picks to ten categories... In Part II, we have five more categories to discuss: best sync song, favourite song you'd like to hear live, be…
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S5E11a - Special Episode: Fran & Babs' Best of 2022, Part I
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57:33We've wrapped up the year once again, each picking our ten favourite tracks from 2022 and discussing our musical highlights and lowlights. However, this year we've mixed it up a little 🍸 and assigned each of our picks to ten categories... In Part I, we'll be talking about each other's favourite song by a solo act, best song by a group, favourite tr…
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S5E10 - Sweden Part II 🇸🇪 The Cardigans (Overrated) & The Tiny (Underrated) - with Daniel Bellqvist
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1:27:51Välkomna alla till säsongens sista avsnitt! This week we are joined by Daniel Bellqvist, lead singer of Swedish indie band Eskobar. Daniel shares some great rock'n'roll anecdotes in this episode, including those relating to this week's overrated act, The Cardigans. While we all agree that Lovefool was extremely popular and played non-stop, is it fa…
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S5E9 - Theatrical Americans: Prince (Overrated) & Jill Tracy (Underrated) - with Dr Becky Alexis-Martin and Annie Greatorex
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1:21:59Hello DARLINGS and welcome to a most flamboyant episode! We're joined by Dr Becky Alexis-Martin and Annie Greatorex to discuss one of the most famous theatrical American musicians of all time and one rather more unknown... Dr Becky is keen to discuss mega-famous, revered Prince - she thinks he's written great songs for women (Sinead O'Connor, The B…
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S5E8 - British Blue-Eyed Soul: Rod Stewart (Overrated) & Robert Palmer (Underrated) - with Paula Wiseman
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1:17:47Joined by Paula Wiseman, journalist and host of the Divine Comedians podcast, we're back in the UK this week talking about two singer-songwriters some might not realise are even British... Rod Stewart's music career began in 1962 when he started busking with a harmonica - and he's not stopped making music since. But are his songs interesting enough…
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S5E7b - New Wave, Part II: Indochine (Underrated)
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1:05:25Following on from Part I of our new wave episode, focused on The Cars, we're crossing the Atlantic and travelling to Paris to discuss our underrated pick, Indochine. The best-selling French band of all time, Indochine released their first album in 1982 and have continued to make music ever since - but remain fairly unknown in English-speaking count…
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S5E7a - New Wave, Part I: The Cars (Overrated)
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48:31This week, Fran & Babs talked about new wave and 80s music for so long that we've had to make this a two-parter... We've taken a bit of a different approach with this week's overrated pick...Babs was a fan of The Cars without knowing much of their back catalogue while Fran was less sure how he felt. Therefore, Babs took it upon herself to listen to…
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