Discovering who God says you are may be your most important life pursuit. Imagine what our world might be like if we believed we were designed and gifted by God for each other. Living Influence is co-hosted by Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd. Bill Thrall is an author, mentor, public speaker, and co-founder of Trueface. He is married to Grace, who loves to mentor women and to come alongside leadership couples with Bill. They have three children, nine grandchildren, and four great-grandchildren. Th ...
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Bill Thrall And Scott Boyd Podcasts
If you find yourself having trouble with applying grace into your everyday life, then the Trueface Podcast is for you. Our hope is to provide practical and helpful applications of grace and truth so that we can live beyond the mask. Every other week, guests share a story, discuss a principal, and apply it to our lives.
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The Danger of Using the Law to Become Godly
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20:47How much of your spiritual struggle comes from trying to manage your sin instead of trusting your identity? In this episode, Bill and Scott unpack why so many believers live stuck in shame, hiding, and sin-management even though they’ve been given a new identity. Through stories, Scripture, and vulnerable examples, they show how experiencing love—n…
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How do I move from seeing myself as a sinner to living as someone dead to sin? This episode explores what it truly means to be dead to sin and alive in Christ. Bill and Scott challenge the deeply ingrained belief that Christians are still defined by their sin, revealing how that mindset robs us of joy and love. Together, they unpack how trusting Go…
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How have you been influenced by grace? In this episode, Bill and Scott reflect on how grace has shaped their lives, leadership, and communities. Scott shares how discovering grace changed his business culture, replacing control with trust and empowerment. Bill tells stories of how grace led to the founding of Open Door Fellowship, where commitment,…
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Stop Trying to Be a "Good Christian" // David Gregory
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40:49What if the hardest thing about following Jesus isn’t doing more—but learning to receive? In this episode, we sit down with author David Gregory to explore the mystery of grace and what it really means to live out of our union with Christ. David shares his journey from striving to be a “good Christian” to discovering the freedom of Christ living th…
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How Sin Management Blocks You from Experiencing Love
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20:53Have you ever thought about how your theology is influencing you? This episode explores how many Christians have unknowingly built their theology around sin management rather than grace. Bill and Scott reflect on the harm caused by striving to become godly instead of trusting who God already says we are. Through personal stories and heartfelt refle…
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Discovering the Lies Hidden in Our Stories
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21:08Are you discovering solutions to the lies that you've believed were true about you? This episode explores how the lies we believe about ourselves are often discovered within the stories we tell. Bill and Scott reveal the powerful connection between permission, trust, and the discovery of truth. Through vulnerability, questions, and grace, they invi…
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Go Deep, Not Wide: Why the Church Must Rethink Discipleship // Brian Mosley
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39:59What if true discipleship means going deeper, not wider? In this conversation with our friend Brian Mosley, president of RightNow Media, we explore what it looks like to lead, steward, and discern with courage in seasons of transition. From his family’s three-generation journey of ministry to his bold shift from DVDs to streaming, Brian shares how …
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Healing the Lies We Believe About Ourselves
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20:30What are some of the lies you've believed? Are there some convictions that you believe in that actually might be lies? This episode explores the deep and personal lies we believe about ourselves—and how love, not effort, is what truly heals them. Bill and Scott share intimate stories of loneliness, shame, and healing through trust, friendship, and …
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The People Who Risked Everything to Influence Yo
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23:35Who in your life is taking a risk on you? Also, who in your life has influenced you? This episode explores how influence is born out of trust, vulnerability, and the willingness to take risks for someone else’s benefit. Through honest stories and reflections, Bill and Scott show how the people who have most shaped our lives are those who dared to b…
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The Hidden Obstacles to Your Breakthrough // Marcus Warner
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43:27Why do we get stuck in the same struggles year after year—even as Christians longing for freedom? In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Marcus Warner, president of Deeper Walk International, to unpack why so many of us stall out in our spiritual growth and how we can move toward real breakthrough. Together, we explore the “five engines” that drive …
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Risk-Taking and Its Surprising Rewards in God's Plan
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22:20Are you willing to risk trusting the influence of God in you for the benefit of others? This episode explores what it means to risk trusting God’s influence within you for the benefit of others. Through stories of business, family, and faith, the conversation reveals how courage, grace, and trust reshape how we lead and love. Bill and Scott invite …
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Why Satan Can Be the Author of Opportunity
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21:36Do you live your life looking for opportunities and open doors, or do you live it based on your convictions? Bill and Scott unpack the difference between living by open doors of opportunity versus living by convictions rooted in truth. Bill shares formative stories of discovering conviction, divine interruption, and learning to trust God without kn…
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Stop Fixing—Empathy Is Real Love // Bill & Kristi Gaultiere
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40:36What does it really mean to live in the “easy yoke” of Jesus? In this conversation with our friends Bill and Kristi Gaultiere, we explore how empathy, grace, and slow faithfulness transform our everyday walk with God. Together, we unpack their decades of counseling, ministry, and personal growth—learning what it looks like to move through walls in …
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When God’s Influence Shapes Destiny and Direction
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20:51How are you influenced? Also, do you disregard influence and purpose based on circumstances, or do you remain undeterred by struggle? In this episode, Bill and Scott share personal stories of how God has influenced and interrupted their lives in unexpected ways. They also reflect on the difference between blessing and success, and how true blessing…
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Trusting God’s Truth to Live a Life of PURPOSE
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14:32What possibilities open when you embrace God’s purposes for your life? In this episode, Bill and Scott unpack what it means to live in freedom rather than in the bondage of shame. Drawing from Scripture and their own experiences, they highlight how trust in God’s truth reshapes identity, relationships, and daily choices. Together with guest Waldema…
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Leadership Is Formed in the Wilderness // Lindy Black
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46:45What if the most important leadership lessons aren’t learned on a stage, but in the wilderness, through pruning, weakness, and limitation? In this conversation with Lindy Black, we explore how God shapes leaders from the inside out. With decades of experience in the Navigators and Trueface, Lindy shares her own journey of discovering her gifting, r…
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Why Your Theology Shapes Your Shame—But Also Your Freedom
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20:07Does God declare who we are, or are we on a continuous improvement plan? In this episode, Bill, Scott, and Waldemar explore how theology directly shapes our experience of either bondage to shame or freedom in Christ. They unpack the difference between reading Scripture as a list of “shoulds” versus embracing it as a declaration of who God says we a…
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What It Means to Be Truly Alive in Christ
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22:29Is Jesus able to give you new life? Did He really rise from the dead? Is the resurrection of Jesus the proof of all He accomplished? In this episode, we explore what it truly means to be alive in Christ. We discuss how shame and condemnation no longer define believers because of the resurrection and the indwelling Holy Spirit. We also highlight tha…
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Exhaustion Isn't Faithfulness // Nathan LaGrange
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48:04What if the life Jesus invites us into is less about what we do for Him and more about simply being with Him? In this episode, we sit down with our new friend Nathan LaGrange, Executive Director of Oasis Rest International, to explore how leaders—and all of us—can move from exhaustion and performance into rhythms of rest, renewal, and presence with…
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At Calvary, is Jesus able to bring me into His death? And, what does it mean when I say, “I am crucified in Christ”? In this episode, Bill, Scott, and Waldemar explore the radical reality of being crucified with Christ. They unpack what it means to die with Him—leaving behind shame, condemnation, and the law—and to begin living under grace. This co…
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How to Stop Letting Your Experience Define Who You Are
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20:16Are you defined by God or your experience? Also, if you’re defined by your experience, is your experience your God? This episode dives into the roots of shame and its lingering presence even after becoming a Christian. Bill, Scott, and Waldemar discuss how sin management, comparison, and fear are often signs of unresolved shame. Through biblical tr…
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When Renewal Breaks Out in Canada // Brent Ingersoll
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55:36What does revival look like in a post-secular culture? In this conversation with Brent Ingersoll, lead pastor of King’s Church in Atlantic Canada, we explore how God has been moving in powerful ways north of the border. Brent shares his story of transformation, the surprising renewal that reshaped his church, and the incredible testimonies of lives…
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What if shame or condemnation no longer had the power to define you? In this episode, Waldemar Kohl joins Bill and Scott to explore how grace offers a radical alternative to a life shaped by shame and condemnation. They also discuss what it means to trust Jesus not just with sin, but with our insecurities, failures, and fears. Topics Waldemar Kohl,…
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True Destiny: Trusting God With Everything
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20:43What if your destiny isn’t about what you do for God, but what He does in you and for you? This episode explores how grace radically shapes our destiny—not through performance, but through trust. Bill and Scott discuss how identity, humility, and influence are transformed when we receive God's view of us. They challenge listeners to stop fixing the…
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From Bankruptcy to Breakthrough // Scott Boyd
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47:55What happens when your business fails, your spouse is diagnosed with cancer, and everything you’ve built feels like it’s slipping away? In this powerful conversation, we sit down with longtime friend and marketplace leader Scott Boyd. Scott shares his journey from early faith and career struggles to encountering the transformative message of grace …
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For you, what creates a safe place, a place where you're not afraid to be known? This episode explores how grace is not just a theological concept but a lived experience—especially within a community. Bill and Scott reflect on what it means to belong to an “environment of grace” and how mutual dependence leads to maturity, unity, and purpose. They …
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Grace is the Key to All Loving Relationships
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22:07As yourself: Am I experiencing grace and love in my life? And if I'm not, how can I do that? Grace is not just a theological concept—it’s the foundation for every meaningful relationship of love. In this episode, Bill and Scott unpack how trust unlocks the experience of love and how grace enables us to lay down our masks and let our needs be seen. …
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“Teach Me to Pray”: A Journey of Faith at 81 // Judy Wilson
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59:14Have you ever wondered if you're doing prayer all wrong? In this episode, we sit down with our dear friend and intercessor Judy Wilson, whose 50-year journey of prayer has been anything but formulaic. From seasons of silence to supernatural encounters, Judy shares how prayer has shaped her faith, sustained her through tragedy, and taught her to tru…
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What happens when you begin to believe you are lovable? In this episode, Bill and Scott continue their discussion about how grace becomes the foundation for spiritual maturity, identity, and calling. They reflect on personal stories of shame, self-worth, and trust, revealing how deeply grace can shape our understanding of who we are. They also invi…
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How does trusting grace impact your spiritual growth? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the role of grace as the foundation for our maturing in Christ. They challenge performance-based spirituality and invite you to embrace a new identity rooted in trust, love, and divine truth. Through personal stories and rich theological insight, they unpa…
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Attachment and the Abundant Life // Michael Cusick
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42:43What if the greatest spiritual practice is simply letting Jesus love us? In this powerful conversation with our friend Michael Cusick, we explore the deep connection between spiritual formation, attachment, and the embodied experience of God's love. We talk about how trauma, distraction, and striving can keep us from truly being present—to ourselve…
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The Immense Reality of the Gift Called Grace
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23:34If God is going to give this immense gift of grace to the humble, who are the humble? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore what it means to trust God with the truth of who you are. They unpack why grace is more than forgiveness—it’s the means by which we stop striving and start receiving. Through Scripture, personal stories, and honest dialogue,…
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Is grace the only means for our salvation? In this episode, Bill and Scott open up about their personal journeys of discovering grace and meeting Jesus. Through powerful stories—one marked by fear and redemption, the other by slow awakening—they illustrate how grace is not a concept but a person. Their reflections show us how authentic encounters w…
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The Myth of Balance & Gift of Limits // Alan Briggs
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41:58Are we overwhelmed, underwhelmed… or is there a better way? In this episode, we sit down with Alan Briggs—coach, author, and founder of Stay Forth—to unpack the tension we all feel between exhaustion and disengagement. From sabbaticals to daily rhythms, Alan shares what it means to live a “whelmed” life: not redlining, not coasting, but being fully…
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What does it mean that grace began within the Trinity before creation? And how does the incarnation reveal the nature of grace? Grace didn’t begin as a response to sin—it originated in the very nature of God. In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the stunning truth that grace began within the Trinity and was brought to us in the person of Jesus. …
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How does our view of God shape our ability to receive grace? What if we truly believed that God loves us, without conditions? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the depth of grace, challenging common misconceptions about God’s love. They discuss how shame distorts our ability to receive grace and how understanding God’s nature can reshape our …
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How to Win Where It Really Matters // John Olinger
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49:15What if you’re chasing the wrong win? In this episode, we sit down with John Olinger—former Nike exec, leadership coach, and author of Worthy Wins—to unpack what it means to succeed in the areas that matter most. From high-stakes marketing at Nike to the raw wake-up call of losing his father, John shares how redefining success radically reshaped hi…
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Discovering God's Hand in Your Story: Stories of Influence (Part 3)
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20:06How can reflecting on past experiences reveal God’s influence in your life? In this episode, Bill and Scott share stories of how God’s presence and timing have shaped their lives and ministries. Bill recounts his journey from becoming a Christian at 17 to leaving a career to follow his calling, emphasizing the importance of living by conviction. To…
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From Brokenness to Hope: Stories of Influence (Part 2)
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25:01How do we learn to trust God that we matter? How do we learn to trust Him with our future? In this episode, Bill and Scott share deeply personal stories about the transformative power of influence and grace. They explore how relationships and pivotal moments can help reframe lies we believe about ourselves and shape our future. Topics Bill and Scot…
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Trust, Grace, and the Power of Vulnerability: Stories of Influence (Part 1)
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22:06What principles can we learn from the most painful or transformative moments of our lives? In this episode, Bill and Scott share deeply personal stories about trust, grace, and the power of vulnerability. Through their experiences, they highlight how examining life stories can uncover principles that shape relationships and personal growth. The epi…
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Transforming Family Dynamics Through Grace // Janet Newberry
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46:46What if the biggest transformation starts at our own dinner table? In this episode, we sit down with our friend Janet Newberry to unpack how grace-based living shapes not just education but the very heart of family. We explore what it means to “practice the art of being family,” and how atmosphere, discipline, and life can form a discipleship model…
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Living Abundantly: Unlocking Your Identity with God
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19:57Are you okay with living a mediocre life? Is it possible to live an abundant life? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the profound transformation that occurs when we as Christians fully trust in who God says we are. They discuss the Biblical principle of dying with Christ to experience new life, emphasizing freedom from sin, shame, and legalis…
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Sharing Your Faith through Friendship // Jon Ferguson
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36:50What if the key to sharing Jesus is simply being a good friend? In this episode, we sit down with Jon Ferguson to unpack BLESS—a simple, powerful framework for loving our neighbors the way Jesus did. As we talk through each step—Begin with Prayer, Listen, Eat, Serve, and Share Your Story—we’re reminded that discipleship and evangelism aren’t about …
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What does it mean to live not just free from sin but free to fulfill God’s purpose? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore the profound concept of freedom in Christ. They discuss how freedom is not just liberation from sin and bondage but also an invitation to live out God’s purpose and love others. With personal stories and biblical insights, the…
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Truth, Trust, and Transformation: A Journey of Grace
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21:15What role does trust play in understanding and living out God’s love? In this episode, Bill and Scott delve into the profound connection between truth, trust, and transformation. They discuss how trusting God’s truth and acting on it enables us to experience His grace, which brings lasting change. Through personal stories and biblical examples, the…
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What if forgiveness wasn’t just for the offender—but the path to your own freedom? In this powerful conversation, we sit down with Louise Sedgwick, a longtime friend of the Trueface community whose story first appeared in the original TrueFaced book. Louise shares her harrowing journey through childhood trauma, the deep disconnect between her knowl…
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How Humility Transforms Relationships and Influence
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18:49How can humility transform the way you treat and influence others? In this episode, Bill and Scott delve into the transformative power of humility as a relational and spiritual principle. They explore how trusting God and others with our true selves allows us to experience grace, love, and purpose. Topics Bill and Scott discuss in this episode: * H…
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What practical steps can we take to overcome the lies that shame tells us? In this episode, Bill and Scott explore how shame shapes our self-perception and relationships, offering an alternative perspective rooted in grace. Scott shares his deeply personal journey through two cancer battles with his wife, highlighting how grace transformed their re…
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Striving, Stuck, or Trusting? // Benjamin Crawshaw
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48:11Are we actually growing in our faith, or just going through the motions? Many of us get stuck—either striving to do more for God or sitting back in passivity, wondering if this is all there is. In this episode, we sit down with Benjamin Croshaw, co-author of The Path, to unpack the secret to true spiritual maturity. We explore why trusting God is s…
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How can I experience the joy of being known and accepted for who I am? This episode explores the impact of our self-perception on our influence, emphasizing the importance of trusting God and embracing our true identity in Christ. Bill Thrall and Scott Boyd discuss the freedom that comes from recognizing our new reality in Christ and the transforma…
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