The owner meeting podcast meets with Real Estate and Business professionals who have built the businesses you want to own. Learn from the people who have already done the thing you want to do. Learn from their success and more importantly avoid the "Stupid Tax" they paid to get where they are today. Join Christian Osgood as he explores the less known strategies of real estate investment and pave your way to financial freedom with the Owner Meeting Podcast. Christian is a real estate investor ...
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Stories of how the gospel is spread among the people of East Asia, interviews with those who have crossed cultures to share the good news, and discussions that will equip and inspire you in your evangelism wherever you are. Visit www.omf.org/uk/podcast for more information
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Surprisingly approximately 80% of agents want all the benefits real estate investing provides, including tax write-offs, and growing their family’s wealth but they never take action. This show will help you take that action so you don't stay stuck trading time for dollars. Since 2009 Randal McLeaird, has been a Broker and investor and had closed over 500 transactions as a principal. Randal and his guests are actually doing what you want to be doing, and they'll show you how. Join us Monday's ...
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TheoDisc is a podcast by WTC faculty and friends with fortnightly episodes on theological ideas that will hopefully stimulate you to pursue your own theological learning and ultimately to deepen your faith. It is a place of discussion and debate, and a place to hear a variety of voices. We do hope you enjoy listening! TheoDisc is part of WTC Theology: https://wtctheology.org.uk/
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How I Built Cash Flow in Gary, Indiana — $60K Deals to a 28‑Unit Portfolio
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39:31Mike recounts his shift from expensive West Coast markets to cash‑flowing Midwest rentals, starting with low‑cost turnkey homes in Gary, Indiana. He explains why he chose those markets despite poor traditional metrics and how small investments reduced his risk. He outlines practical tactics: using YouTube and social media to dominate a niche, worki…
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Our Muslim Neighbours Ep2: Going Beyond Hello
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32:46We continue our conversation with Rob and Dr G about what it looks like to live alongside Muslims in Southeast Asia and the UK. This time, our guests explore practical steps to help us go beyond just saying hello to genuine friendship. Discover how prayer, listening, and openness can transform everyday encounters into meaningful relationships. Foll…
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How I Built a Land Empire: Wholesaling, Seller Finance & Mobile Homes
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46:34Brent Bowers of LandShark and host Christian discuss Brent’s path into land investing, starting locally in Colorado and scaling across the Southeast. The episode covers practical strategies—wholesaling, seller-finance arbitrage, mobile home placement, and cash deals—along with deal sourcing, due diligence, and pacing to one solid deal per month. Th…
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From 2008 Burned to Burr Loans: Rebuilding a Real Estate Empire
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40:57Joel walks through his 2008 collapse and comeback, sharing how he rebuilt by focusing on active real estate: flipping, new construction, small multifamily and founding Burr Loans. He covers real-world lessons on vetting partners, controlling leverage, and building repeatable systems. Listeners will get concise takeaways on sustainable LTV targets, …
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Hugh Osgood - How Diversity is Changing the Church (For Good)
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38:56Kenny's guest on this episode of TheoDisc is Revd Dr Hugh Osgood, who has been working to bring about unity between African, Caribbean, and majority-white congregations since the 1980’s. His book, Evangelical And African Pentecostal Unity, details the challenges and successes of such efforts up until the year 2005. Kenny and Hugh spoke about what h…
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Scaling a Brokerage: Joe Killinger’s Playbook for Elite Teams
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38:09Joe Killinger walks through how he built and scaled Commercial Brokers International, his approach to training and building A-player teams, and the strategies he uses for investing and managing properties across Los Angeles and Texas. In this episode of the Owner Meeting Podcast, host Christian Osgood interviews Joe Killinger, a successful real est…
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What does it really look like to live alongside Muslims? In this episode, Dr G and Rob draw on years of experience to explore the joy and complexity of cross-cultural friendship: from shared meals and heartfelt conversations, and curiosity as well as challenges of privacy, belonging, and misunderstanding. Follow us and get in touch: Instagram:@Serv…
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From Couch Flips to 55 Units: The Relentless Hustle Behind a Multifamily Win
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55:12Christian sits down with Ethan and Eddie to trace their journey from flipping couches and running an airport cleaning business during COVID to breaking into multifamily investing. They share mentorship lessons, partnership dynamics, and the grind that powered their growth. The episode breaks down their signature deal: acquiring an 11-unit with sell…
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Florian Simatupang - The Eucharistic Spirit
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40:39Communion, the Lord’s Supper, the Eucharist – whatever you call it in your church tradition, we’re asking the question today about the place it plays in our gathered communities and our expectation of the work of the Spirit in and through this sacramental meal. In this episode of TheoDisc Podcast, Kenny is joined by Florian Simatupang, a pentecosta…
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10 Questions With a Millionaire: Hard Truths on Rent, Rates, and Riches with Michael Zubder
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8:38In this rapid-fire episode, Michael answers 10 questions in 60 seconds each, covering rent control, interest rate forecasts, branding, fitness, and personal life. Takeaways: The people that buy have to do the work. Real estate can lead to wealth for everyone. Understanding market dynamics is crucial for success. Success in real estate requires a st…
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How Rod Khleif Rebounded From a $50M Crash — Mindset & Strategy Revealed
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48:09In this episode of the Owner Meeting Podcast, host Christian Osgood interviews real estate legend Rod Khleif, who shares his inspiring journey from a Dutch immigrant to a successful real estate investor. Rod discusses the importance of mindset, goal setting, and overcoming limiting beliefs in achieving success. He emphasizes the significance of bui…
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From Flips to Freedom: How Grace Scaled Slow and Built Wiire to $1M
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52:01Grace, co-founder of Wire (Women Invest in Real Estate), shares her journey from DIY real estate investor to building a lean, intentional business and community that hit $1M in revenue. She explains why she scaled slowly, how strategic partnerships and systems helped preserve time freedom, and why clear SOPs and time-blocking are essential. Grace a…
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In this episode of Theodisc, Kenny speaks with Mark Glanville, a professional jazz musician, theologian and preacher, about the evolving landscape of preaching in a post-Christian culture. They discuss the importance of creativity, community, and curiosity in preaching, as well as the metaphor of jazz as a way to approach the art of preaching. Mark…
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From House Hacks to Early Retirement: Small Portfolios, Big Freedom Dion Mcneeley and Matt Hawkins
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1:17:09Host Christian sits down with investors Dion McNeeley and Matt Hawkins to explore their contrasting paths to financial freedom — from house hacking and owning a few high-cash-flow rentals to scaling 150+ units with strong systems. They share practical advice on underwriting, tenant screening, rehabs, and how to run low-maintenance portfolios. The e…
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"Our Building Exploded" — The Truth About Passive Income
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10:38We respond to a 3AM call about a supposed building explosion that turned out to be a garage outlet fire, assess $15K–$20K in damage, and explain why multifamily investing is far from "passive" during the build phase. The episode covers buying a 76-unit property, using LIHTC and Section 8 as competitive advantages, lessons on hiring and firing, and …
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From $0 Triplex to 215 Units: With Dylan Osmon
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43:22Host Christian talks with Dylan Osmon about his rapid rise from a $33,000 triplex purchase in 2020 to over 200 rental units, covering scaling strategies, deal structure, partnerships, and debt management. They discuss real-world lessons on hiring and firing, risk management, the trade-offs between cash flow and long-term appreciation, and practical…
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Prisons Week - Steven Gordon and Sarah Coppin
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52:58God at Work in Prisons This episode of TheoDisc comes to you during Prisons Week which takes place each year from the second Sunday of October and encourages the church to pray for prisoners and their families, those victims of and affected by crime and those working in the criminal justice system. It also aims to focus the Christian community on h…
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From Demo to Deals: Charlie Farnsworth’s Real Estate Reinvention
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40:42Charlie Farnsworth shares his journey from college demolition work and house flips to leading a family-backed lending platform, highlighting how he finds opportunities in market gaps and protects capital. The episode covers practical lessons on raising capital, choosing the right projects, avoiding hubris, and structuring loans for preservation of …
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How This Real Estate Lawyer Built a Multifamily Empire — Todd Robinson
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20:18Welcome back to the Owner Meeting Podcast with Christian Osgood and guest Todd Robinson, a top real estate and syndication lawyer. Todd shares his journey from social work to founding his own law firm, building a $75M AUM portfolio with 400+ units, and balancing entrepreneurship with ethical investing. Todd discusses practical strategies—keeping af…
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TAi Lopez and guest discuss politics, freedom of speech, government overreach, incentives, and how money motivates people. They explore solutions like high pay for leaders, performance-based rewards, parenting and workplace incentives, and the benefits of farmland and natural living. The episode mixes practical business lessons, personal stories ab…
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Craig Keener - How to Succeed at Suffering
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47:05Following Jesus in the Tough Times Even though Jesus says that those who follow him will have many trials and sorrows in this world, it’s still the case that we tend to view suffering as something to be avoided, or eliminated from our experience of faith. Perhaps this is rooted in a faulty gospel that proclaims, ‘follow Jesus and he will take away …
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How Jaclyn and Jason McClure Cracked the Midterm Rental Code — $7,000/mo MidTerm Rental Insurance Plays
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40:26Christian interviews Jaclyn and Jason McClure of Vetted Homes about their midterm rental strategy that sits between short-term and long-term rentals and often earns multiple times market rent through insurance placements. They share their origin story, a $7,000/month insurance placement that transformed their business, practical tips on markets, ar…
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Is this 22 Year Old the Next Sam Zell? — Caleb Hommel on his first 200 rental units
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28:26In this episode Christian Osgood interviews Caleb Hommel, who started in multifamily investing as a teen and scaled to nearly 200 rental units by age 22. Caleb shares how he funded his first deals with no capital, navigated joint ventures, syndications, assignment vs acquisition fees, and built a property management and marketing business. They dis…
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Israel Olofinjana - Why did Jesus speak Aramaic?
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45:55A Biblical Theology for a Decolonised Mission We're back! After a bit of an hiatus over the summer, TheoDisc is pleased to be bringing you some truly insightful chats with truly insightful theologians again! Our guest on this episode of TheoDisc, Rev Dr Israel Olofinjana, wants us to consider the ways that western Christian mission has been deeply …
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How a 24-Year-Old Built 200+ Units by Systematizing Everything
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41:51On this episode Christian interviews Josh Janus, a 24-year-old real estate operator who scaled to 200+ units by obsessively documenting tasks, delegating to VAs, and building repeatable SOPs. Josh shares concrete systems—email filters, text rules, task buckets, contractor selection criteria—and how decision speed and relationships drove deal flow. …
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From Golf Lessons to High-Stakes Deals: Erich Bubbel's Seattle Multifamily Playbook
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50:27Host Christian sits down with Seattle broker and investor Erich Bubbel to trace his journey from golf instructor to a top-producing commercial broker and multifamily investor. They discuss making cold calls, owner-occupying and house-hacking, creative and seller financing, underwriting for realistic cash flow, when to self-manage vs hire profession…
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From Cardone to Cashflow: Gabe Bowling’s Tactical Deal-Structuring Playbook
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1:03:20Host Christian Osgood sits down with Gabe Bowling to unpack practical deal-structuring tactics, syndication realities, and creative financing strategies that generate real cash flow. Gabe shares his journey from working with Grant Cardone to building a hands-on portfolio and a deal-room community, emphasizing skill stacking, listening, starting sma…
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How Shane Turned ADUs into $300K+ Plays: Free Land & Condo Tricks
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43:52In this episode Shane Sanders explains a niche West Coast strategy: buy single‑family homes or duplexes on large corner or alley lots, build two detached ADUs, then use condo conversions (or state code workarounds) to sell or finance units separately. He breaks down costs, loan mechanics, and how his construction background lets him cut build costs…
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From House Hacking to Major Investments: Matthew Wang's Rapid Real Estate Journey
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31:08In this engaging episode of the Owner Meeting Podcast, the host welcomes Matthew Wang, a successful programmer and real estate investor, as they dive into Matt's transformative journey from starting with single-family homes to scaling up to multifamily properties. Recorded in person in Texas, Matt shares fascinating insights about his early days of…
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Crystal Downing is our guest on this episode of TheoDisc, and her latest book, The Wages of Cinema, speaks to the connection between film and faith, but not in the way you might expect. Plenty of authors have tried to extract moral or spiritual lessons from the narrative of a film, but Crystal challenges us to pay attention to the details, the stru…
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From Hockey to Home Services: Adam's Journey to Entrepreneurial Success
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46:31Welcome to another engaging episode of the Owner Meeting Podcast. In this episode, host Christian welcomes Adam Chapman, an entrepreneurial expert in the home services sector. Join us as Adam shares his inspiring journey from playing professional hockey to leading a successful business in home services. Adam, the founder of Pad Pal, a thriving comp…
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Navigating the Real Estate Storm: Insider Tactics for Success
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43:35Welcome back to Multifamily Strategy and the Owner Meeting Podcast with Christian and special guest Sam Prim. In this episode, they explore the dynamic changes in the real estate market over the past year, emphasizing the resilience needed to navigate the slowdowns in multifamily investments and the burst of the flipping and wholesaling business. S…
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Unveiling Real Estate Success with Jacob Davenport
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56:09Welcome to the Owner Meeting Podcast, hosted by Chris, where he is joined by Jacob Davenport, an energetic and insightful real estate investor. In this episode, they delve into topics such as the significance of problem-solving in real estate, the importance of community, and the mindset needed to succeed in business. Jacob shares his journey from …
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The Multifamily Crash is Finally Here: Insights from Michael Zuber
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49:17Join us in this exciting episode as we chat with Michael Zuber, a renowned expert in real estate investment and economic insights. Michael shares his journey from a traditional career path to building substantial multi-generational wealth through real estate. We delve into his straightforward and repeatable investment strategies that anyone can fol…
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Sarah Coppin - Teaching Theology in Prison
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41:55An exploration of WTC’s vision to deliver theological education to people in prisons At WTC, we’ve never held theology, the presence of the Spirit, and daily life, mission, and ministry as separate or in competition. Instead, we believe that good theology contributes to Spiritually-formed people who express the kingdom of God wherever they are. Tha…
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From Single Family to Multifamily: Chris Jordan's Journey
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28:54Join us this week on the Owner Meeting Podcast as Chris sits down with real estate enthusiast Chris Jordan. Together, they delve into Chris Jordan's transition from acquiring single-family homes in Oklahoma City to recently closing a multifamily deal. Discover how he found the opportunity, overcame financial roadblocks, and structured his partnersh…
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What do theology and spiritual formation have to do with one another? Lucy Peppiatt has found many ways in which she has taught and encouraged the integration of study and deep spiritual formation at WTC. We are delighted to have her on this episode to share how theological study can be a foundation for wholeness, maturity, and formation into Chris…
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From Rugby to Real Estate: Phil Toth's (The Deslumifier's) Incredible Journey from Olympian to Investor
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47:28Welcome to the Owner Meeting Podcast, hosted by Christian and his good buddy, Phil Toth. Phil's journey from professional rugby player to Olympic sailor, and now a successful real estate investor, showcases his versatile talents and determination. This episode delves into Phil's incredible story, including his recent venture into real estate with t…
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How do we really love God with our minds? For Christians the emphasis is often on loving the Lord with our heart, soul and strength, but when it comes to our minds, there can be some reticence. There can be a real pressure in the church to act as if we know it all, or a fear that theology and learning might lead us to not know what we believe. The …
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Amanda Bedzrah - Becoming Queen Bathsheba
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50:20On this episode of TheoDisc, Kenny and Amanda Bedzrah talk about Bathsheba - one of the most misunderstood figures in the Old Testament, often labelled as a seductress who, along with David, is complicit in an adultress affair. But a closer reading of the biblical text shows that she is a victim of an abuse of power. Amanda's latest book, Becoming …
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Beth Allison Barr - Becoming the Pastor's Wife
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47:44On this episode of TheoDisc, Kenny is joined by Prof Beth Allison Barr, who talks about her new book, Becoming the Pastor's Wife, where she argues against a theology that says that leadership is not available to women. She discusses the role of women and their service in roles of leadership in the gospels and the early church, and how, in the histo…
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As Jennie emerges from the shadow of her more well-known husband, you'll discover an amazing missionary pioneer and woman of faith and be inspired by the outstanding contribution she made to the gospel through the China Inland Mission. Stay tuned to hear about Marion Osgood's new book Jennie Hudson Taylor and learn about Jennie's life, her loves, a…
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On this episode of TheoDisc, Kenny chats with Prof John Walton about the BIG questions: Who are we and where did we come from? What happened at the beginning? And what is Genesis actually trying to tell us? This discussion unpacks the human condition, 'cultural rivers', and original sin, to name but a few of the themes that emerge when one has a ch…
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Grace Hamman - Jesus through Medieval Eyes
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36:52Beholding Christ with Artists, Mystics, and Theologians of the Middle Ages On this episode of TheoDisc, Kenny is joined by Dr Grace Hamman, who is an expert in medieval studies and recently published her first book, Jesus through Medieval Eyes, a fascinating look at how Christians in the Middle Ages viewed and depicted Jesus through art and literat…
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On this episode of TheoDisc, Kenny is joined by Rev Dr Kate Coleman who, in her latest book, Metamorph, asks us to consider transformation at the heart of leadership as revealed in the Scriptures. What we mean by ‘results’ and ‘success’ can shift our priorities and result in leadership that can disconnect what we do from who we are. They had a conv…
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From Prison to Profit: How This Investor Turned a Jail into Luxury Rentals!
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34:18Most people are looking for safe, easy real estate deals. Matt Hawkins does the opposite. This high-level investor saw an abandoned prison and turned it into luxury rentals, a kids' playground, and housing for disabled veterans. In this episode, Matt shares: 🔥 How he built a massive portfolio with ZERO partners 🔥 Why he has 30-year fixed loans at 4…
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The Biggest Mistake New Real Estate Investors Make (And How to Fix It!)
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37:35Want to build a profitable real estate business without getting stuck in never-ending projects? In this episode, Christian and his wife Danny break down the biggest mistake new investors make—and how to scale faster and smarter. We cover: ✅ Why underfunding renovations kills your cash flow (and how to fix it) ✅ The correct way to scope and budget b…
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