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Stump The Pastors

Brian Sauvé, Dan Berkholder

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Stump The Pastors is a weekly Q+A podcast on issues of theology, worldview, and culture with Brian Sauvé and Dan Berkholder—pastors at Refuge Church in Ogden, Utah.
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Send us a text! In this episode, Brian and Eric talk about the upcoming singles mixer, the problematic dating scene, and what Christians can do about it. They discuss courtship from a biblical perspective, as well as the three weddings that occurred in 2025 from the previous New Christendom Press conference. Finally, we share an interview with Sam …
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Send us a text! In this episode, Ben, Eric, and Dan discuss the Longhouse, which Eric discussed in his talk at the recent Right Response conference in Texas. What is the Longhouse? How does it work? We talk about the problem with HR departments, which are run by hysterical women, and how women were so influential in shaping American society. We'll …
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Send us a text! Pastor Dan Berkholder of Refuge Church sits down with Jase Reyneveld and David Reece to share the behind-the-scenes of building and investing in businesses, and why economic greenification is so pivotal in shaping the New Christendom. Yes, you need pastors overseeing reform in the ecclesiastical sphere, and politicians in the politi…
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Send us a text! Waco. Ruby Ridge. The 1990s saw two of the great disasters of government overreach, and both the ATF and the FBI were close at the center of the problem. In this episode, we talk about the origins of the ATF, as well its role in today’s world. We’ll talk with Issac Botkin from TREX Arms about his recent series on the ATF. 2025 New C…
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Send us a text! Feminism has ruined not only society, but the church. Instead of correcting haughty and controlling women, we now celebrate what Paul calls in Titus 2, women who revile the word of God by disrespecting their husbands. Sadly, many men are trapped in marriages to reviling women. In this episode, we sit down to talk with David Edgingto…
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Send us a text! Does Classical Christian education have an egalitarianism problem? We think so. Join us in the King’s Hall for a deep dive on the inherent tensions between universal education and the way God made the world. 2025 New Christendom Press Conference: https://www.newchristendompress.com/2025 Did you know supporters of the show get ad-fre…
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Send us a text! 2025 New Christendom Press Conference: https://www.newchristendompress.com/2025 In this episode of the King’s Hall Podcast, we’ll discuss the Post War Consensus, why we think it is dying—and why we think that’s a good thing. Out with the “weak gods” that have destroyed the West, and in with the “strong gods” that built the first Chr…
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Send us a text! As we discuss in today’s episode—which features an interview with Dr. George Grant—the 5th through 9th centuries were marked by Guilds of Learning, which were the melding of craftsmanship with covenant succession. A student spent an entire lifetime being shaped by a master, who helped them become immersed in whatever trade they had …
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Send us a text! In his first days in office, Donald Trump set about radically reshaping America with a long list of executive orders. He declared a national energy emergency in America, promised to "drill baby drill," renamed the Gulf of Mexico, and ended many national environmental engagements, including the Paris Accords. On the immigration issue…
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Send us a text! As the recent dustup on X over Christmas demonstrated, the ruling elites and techno-oligarchs aren't exactly in touch with American sentiment when it comes to the H-1B visa, a program that brings in foreign labor to replace American jobs. The program has existed for a long time, and one of its key users is Apple. Likewise, we'll tal…
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Send us a text! What if the icons of conservative thought weren't who we believed them to be? This episode challenges preconceived notions as we unravel the complex tapestry of conservative politics and Christian nationalism. We start by examining why we did not endorse the Antioch Declaration, with a spotlight on William F. Buckley Jr.'s contentio…
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Send us a text! In this episode of The King's Hall Podcast, we tell the story of a people who quite literally saved civilization—the Irish—remembering that the Lord loves to use small, backwoods communities to do great and mighty works. The Irish are a hardscrabble people who have suffered much and endured through tears and laughter. They fought in…
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Send us a text! Donald Trump's victory in the 2024 Presidential election marked one of the greatest political comebacks in U.S. history. He didn't do it alone, however, but with a ton of help from folks like Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, Scott Pressler, Susie Wiles, Joe Rogan, and Dana White. His run also had broad appeal to many on the right wing thanks…
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Send us a text! Discover how to transform your family into a thriving hub of economic productivity and shared purpose. We explore Chris Wiley’s revolutionary ideas presented in "Man of the House," which challenge the conventional fragmentation of family roles. Through engaging conversations and real-life stories, we examine how modern households ca…
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Send us a text! Enjoy this special episode of The King’s Hall! Two of our three hosts are out so the boys from Haunted Cosmos come in to tell us the story of Constantinople. Visit Full Stadium Marketing to find your next marketing partner, aligning with your values and providing tools to grow your business all to the glory of God. Get 10% off your …
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Send us a text! It all began with the assassination of Franz Ferdinand on June 28, 1914, and would result in World War I—a brother war that would tear the West apart. The King of England, the Kaiser, and Tsar Nicholas were all blood related cousins. To this day, no one really knows how, exactly, or why WWI happened. But it did. And it opened the do…
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Send us a text! We here at New Christendom Press have a big announcement for you: A brand new book! That's right, after more than a year of work, Brian and Ben are pleased to announce Haunted Cosmos: Doing Your Duty in a World That's Not Just Stuff, a book all about the glory of the world God has made—seen and unseen—and how to do your duty in it. …
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Send us a text! The kingdom of Wallachia was the home to warlords, brutality, and the reign of Islamic terror. One man rose from Turkish captivity to save his people, and would as a result become one of the most fascinating—and brutal—leaders in Christendom. His name was Vlad Tepes, but he was best known as Vlad Dracul or, more ominously, Vlad the …
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Send us a text! In this episode we wrap up our series on building wealth as we talk with Joe Garrisi, from Backwards Planning Financial. We'll discuss traditional finance, or TradFi: banking, the stock market, the bond market, venture capital, and hedge funds. As a wealth manager, Joe helps clients think through long-term investing strategies. Be s…
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Send us a text! The Louisiana Purchase stands as one of the key moments that shaped what America would become as a nation. It laid the groundwork for massive continental expansion and economic development. The purchase was also not merely a momentary investment, but a bet on the generations of future sons and daughters of America. It was a visionar…
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Send us a text! In this episode, Dan Berkholder sits down with Jase Reyneveld, one of the owners at Alpine Gold in Ogden, Utah, to discuss the monetary value of gold and why it matters in today's economy. They talk about money as a store of wealth and a hedge against inflation, the problems with fiat currency, and the Federal Reserve Bank. We also …
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Send us a text! In this episode, we talk with Jordan Bush, executive director at Thank God for Bitcoin. We'll pick his brain about the importance of de-fi (decentralized finance), blockchain, and how Christians can utilize cryptocurrency to build wealth and further the work of the new Christendom. You can't build New Christendom without understandi…
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Send us a text! In this episode, we talk with Jeremy Carl, senior fellow at the Claremont Institute, where his primary focus is on immigration, multiculturalism, and nationalism in America. He served in the first Trump administration and recently released a book, The Unprotected Class: How Anti-White Racism is Tearing America Apart. We'll talk abou…
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Send us a text! In this episode we talk with pastor and author Zach Garris about the work of Reformed resourcement and his new book, "Honor Thy Fathers." In the book, Garris argues that biblical patriarchy and male headship were the standard positions of our Reformed fathers. He also argues that churches should return to these teachings and oppose …
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Send us a text! We do a much needed breakdown from the 2024 NCP Conference recently in Ogden, UT. We'll talk about the current moment, why there's so much energy in our camp—dare we say, you could call it an Ogden Mood—White Boy Summer, Stephen Wolfe, and much, much more. We'll talk about some of the highlights, including Joel Webbon's epic talk on…
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Send us a text! The Muslims called him Skanderbeg, which means, "Lord Alexander." Born George Kastrioti, the Albanian born prince was captured by the Muslims, became a Janissary, and yet returned to defend his people and Christendom. We'll also talk about the Arab and Ottoman slave trade, which dwarfed the Atlantic slave trade in terms of numbers o…
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Send us a text! In this episode we talk with Timon Cline and Clifford Humphrey about their article that ran in the American Reformer, titled Fortress Building in the Negative World. We also discuss Aaron Renn's work about life in the negative world, how to build strong outposts for cultural insurgency, and failures within the church and political s…
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Send us a text! We trace the heroic journey of Christian lords and knights like Duke Godfrey as they reconquer and retake Jerusalem. We'll also cover the battle of Nicaea and Antioch, including the miraculous appearance of Saint George. One of the key figures we'll also discuss is Bohemond, the giant-like hero, and his nephew, Tancred. We'll also a…
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Send us a text! In November of 1095, at the height of the Muslim invasion, Pope Urban II spoke from a platform outside the French city of Claremont, surrounded by an enormous crowd. There he roused noble knights and lords to defend Constantinople from a Muslim invasion and called them to retake Jerusalem for Christendom. In this episode, we talk ab…
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Send us a text! As C.S. Lewis told it, there's not just disenchantment happening about the history of the West and of Christendom, but an intentionally cast dark spell that blinds us to the glory and brightness that is our Christian heritage. In this episode, we talk with Dr. Joe Rigney about C.S. Lewis, the Silver Chair, and the insightful charact…
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Send us a text! In this episode, we seek to recover the patriarchy of the first Christendom, including the reformers. To men like Knox, Calvin, Vermigli, and others, headship and father rule were central, not secondary, issues upon which Christendom was built. C.S. Lewis included headship in his book, Mere Christianity, as a centrally important doc…
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Send us a text! Journey back to the brink of history with us, where the fate of the West dangled precariously during the Siege of Vienna in 1683. Feel the intensity of the Ottomans' siege and Vienna's dire straits as we recount the arrival of Jan Sobieski and his famed Winged Hussars. Their legendary charge, the largest in history, didn't just shif…
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Send us a text! Alfred is one of the greatest heroes of the Christian West. Once exiled, he regained a foothold on the island and drove out the Danes, who had ruthlessly overwhelmed the countryside. He led reforms in education, government, and monetary policy. He also developed the idea of Christian burroughs. Known as the White Horse King, we'll t…
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Send us a text! After the rise of Muhammad across the Arabian peninsula in the 7th Century, Christian armies faced a serious threat to Western Civilization. Things came to a head in 636 at the Battle of Yarmuk, when Heraclius' Byzantine army met with crushing defeat before an advancing Muslim army. Many think the conflict between these two religion…
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Send us a text! We embark on the epic journey of Season 3 in this episode of the podcast. We'll be talking about the myths and lies you've been told about Christendom 1.0. Speaking of which, what is Christendom? Who are the heroes that built it? What are its high water marks and when did it begin? Why was Islam so important in the shaping of Christ…
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Send us a text! Ever feel like modern society has lost touch with its roots? Sit down with us, as we pull back the veil of time to explore the pivotal role of ancient truths in shaping and rebuilding Christendom. We push past overused narratives and dive into misunderstood aspects of our history, taking a closer look at pivotal themes such as Chris…
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Send us a text! In this episode, we address the debate around adoption ethics and the social media storm following Eric Conn's recent tweets related to adoption. Our journey takes us from the language of natural affection in Biblical texts to the role of the Church in adoption, and the very real impact of unconsidered adoption. Get ready for discus…
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Send us a text! Stories have the power to transform the way we live our lives, but why is that? Have you ever considered how the narratives we weave impact our perception of the world and guide our actions? Or why so many people's live are framed by a narrative of decline? Join us as we embark on a captivating journey into the transformative world …
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Send us a text! Are you prepared to wage the battle for hope? As fathers and leaders, we're not just fighting for our own souls. We're contending for the souls of our children, the future generation. We're on a quest to discover how to provide beams of hope amidst the swirling tempests of life. In this pursuit, we turn to Tolkien’s The Return of th…
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Send us a text! Do you ever ponder how societal shifts and technological advancements are influencing fertility and family structures? In this thought-provoking conversation, we compare the worldwide birth rates of the 1950s to those of today, and question the balance between fertility and prosperity. We shed light on the rise of fertility religion…
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Send us a text! Are you grappling with how to guide your children towards godly marriages? The story of Joshua Harris, once an icon of the modern purity movement, whose unfortunate fall from grace prompts us to ponder: How can we protect our daughters from such pitfalls and inspire our sons to seek virtuous women? How can we, as fathers, help our c…
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Send us a text! In this episode, we talk about how to win your children's hearts. As we learn from the story of Stonewall Jackson, our sons will either build and defend our cultural monuments—or tear them down. How do we think about cultural transmission and legacy work? Where does it start? Ultimately, we need thick culture that comes from thick l…
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Send us a text! Doug Wilson has said one of the things you want to be as a father is “The Blessing Man.” You have a unique role to be a disciplinarian, and provide authority, order, and structure, and this is good. But you also need to be like the Lord, Our Father, who overflows with blessing. We see this picture of the Lord in Psalm 65:9-13: Ever …
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Send us a text! Ever thought about how the portrayal of masculinity and fatherhood in popular culture has been skewed? Unpack the idea of fatherhood, joy and masculinity with us, as we redefine the role of a father as a "blessing man" in this episode. Drawing inspiration from Joe Rigney's article, First in Last Out Laughing Loudest, and referencing…
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Send us a text! In this episode, Dan, Eric, and Brian talk about how crucial it is for fathers to teach their children what it looks like to be a friend to others, especially showing sons how to be friends with other men. This episode is sponsored by John Michael Clark of The Family Captain. They are having a conference in Nashville starting Septem…
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Send us a text! In this episode, Dan, Eric, and Brian tackle the issue of screens and the digital matrix. How do you create children who are adept at the ways of the world without sacrificing their souls, childhood, and mental skill (among other things)? This episode is sponsored by John Michael Clark of The Family Captain. They are having a confer…
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Send us a text! Register for the 2023 New Christendom Press Conference here. In this episode, Dan and Eric (congrats on the new baby, Brian) discuss the folly of merely berating men in the hopes they will somehow grow more virtuous. How do you really chastise men? As in, do not punish them, but teach them. -The King's Hall Website -The King's Hall …
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Send us a text! Register for the 2023 New Christendom Press Conference here. In this episode, Eric, Dan, and Brian continue their conversation on what it looks like to be a good father unto our daughters. How can we raise them to love true beauty, wisdom, and righteousness in such a negative and twisted world? -The King's Hall Website -The King's H…
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Send us a text! Register for the 2023 New Christendom Press Conference here. In this episode, Eric, Dan, and Brian specifically address what it looks like to be a good father unto our daughters. How can we raise them to love true beauty, wisdom, and righteousness in such a negative and twisted world? -The King's Hall Website -The King's Hall Twitte…
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Send us a text! Register for the 2023 New Christendom Press Conference here. In this episode, Eric, Dan, and Brian discuss a trait common to all true fathers: they are "in your corner." What does that mean? How is it practiced? What are the consequences of doing it well and of doing it poorly? -The King's Hall Website -The King's Hall Twitter -The …
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