An unscheduled, unpredictable Supreme Court podcast. Hosted by Will Baude and Dan Epps.
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CFOIQ is an exciting video interview series offering the sophisticated guidance and intelligent insights that global CFO’s need to achieve important objectives for their companies and careers. Whether you serve public, private, or private-equity companies, or tax-exempt organizations, CFOIQ delivers timely knowledge, creative ideas, and exciting discussions for growth-minded CFOs and other finance executives. Perfect for both accomplished finance executives, as well as those just starting ou ...
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Are you a CFO, or future CFO, seeking to hear how accomplished CFOs at some of the most innovative companies achieve success and drive outstanding returns? Are you seeking to gain insights into how fast-thinking CFOs have successfully deployed innovative approaches to drive growth for their companies? Then, watch or listen to CFO IQ, and hear CFOs and noted subject matter experts share intelligence on finance, operations, risk, technology, real estate, M&A, turnarounds, career enhancement, a ...
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We're back to break down a month's worth of shadow docket activity -- three recent summary reversals, plus the stay in the Texas gerrymandering case (Abbott v. LULAC). We also discuss the launch of the SCOTUSblog "interim docket blog."By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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Finance As A Growth Engine With Gary Piscatelli of Astor Chocolate
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31:57Gary Piscatelli has earned a reputation as a transformational and pragmatic leader in a global confectionary industry driven by factors including rising disposable incomes, urbanization, and innovative products. That market's valued at approximately $269 billion in 2024, and projected to reach around $468 billion by 2034 with a huge annual compound…
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The Speed of Sound! How Tariffs, Supply Chain & Extreme Competition are Changing the Global Aerospace Industry
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54:13For almost every industry in 2025, tariffs have become a way of life and something that almost every CFO has had to contend with. But what are the global ramifications when an entire industry spreads its "wings" in a mass race to piece together the perfect supply chain puzzle in a marketplace where tariffs on thousands of parts can change with a si…
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Will and Dan record a rare live show in an unusual venue: the Salamander Resort in Middleburg, Virginia, at the annual attorney retreat for trial boutique Wilkinson Stekloff. Dan teaches Will some of the new lingo he's learned from the firm's trial experts before a deep dive into civil procedure. First, we dig into the recently argued Coney Island …
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After a predictably unpredictable set of detours through Latin grammar, parenting philosophies, and 90s video games, we catch up on the latest shadow (interim?) docket activity and recap the oral argument in the tariffs cases.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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Crazy Half-Drunk Unreliable Research Assistant
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1:03:41Divided Argument is in its sixth season! Our first episode of the term focuses, of course, on the latest developments on the shadow docket. These include several grants of interim relief to the Trump administration, as well as some dissents from the denial of certiorari. But first, an update on Dan's travel schedule and ChatGPT usage, and an import…
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The Art of Juggling with Mila Tartakovsky of Daiichi Sankyo
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31:56Juggling life and work is a challenge for any busy executive—but few master it quite like Mila Tartakovsky, Head of U.S. Finance at Daiichi Sankyo. Mila redefines what it means to reach the pinnacle of success in both her professional and personal worlds, showing how to make each strengthen the other. In this episode of CFOIQ, we go in-depth with M…
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For the season finale, we're joined by Yale law professor Justin Driver to talk about his new book, "The Fall of Affirmative Action: Race, the Supreme Court, and the Future of Higher Education." We discuss the conservative cases for and against affirmative action, the post-SFFA world of university admissions, the promise and limits of colorblindnes…
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We extend our record-breaking run with a discussion of the Court's two big recent emergency docket rulings: Noem v. Vasquez Perdomo and NIH v. American Public Health Association.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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The Hidden Property Values Most CFOs Miss with Andrew Zezas
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7:14In this episode of CFO IQ, host Andrew Zezas shatters conventional wisdom about corporate real estate by revealing that your company’s property has multiple values simultaneously as many as 13 different valuations on the same day. Zezas breaks down how three different buyer types (corporate occupants, investor landlords, and sale-leaseback investor…
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Tariffs, Supply Chains, and M&A Impact with EisnerAmper's Travis Epp and Dean Peterson
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22:13In this episode of CFOIQ, host Andy Zezas teams up with EisnerAmper’s Travis Epp and Dean Peterson to decode how recent tariffs are reshaping corporate strategy across industries. The experts explain why “Liberation Day” created unprecedented uncertainty in global supply chains and reveal the key differences between tariffs and international taxati…
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Navigating the AI Revolution in Finance with IBM's Matt Konwiser
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40:47In this episode of CFO IQ, host Andrew Zezas sits down with Matt Konwiser, Brand Technical Leader and Field CTO at IBM, to unpack how CFOs can capitalize on artificial intelligence amid its “hectic” state of constant innovation. Konwiser breaks down AI’s practical applications in financial forecasting and planning, explaining how combining traditio…
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Building on a Successful Track Record with Kansas City Chiefs CFO, Dan Crumb
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32:49In this premier episode of CFOIQ, host Andrew Zezas sits down with Dan Crumb, Executive Vice President and CFO of the Kansas City Chiefs, to unveil how the Super Bowl champions build and maintain their winning culture both on and off the field. Crumb reveals the Chiefs’ innovative approaches to enhancing the fan experience through technology invest…
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We're joined by Michigan law professor Richard Primus to talk about his new book, "The Oldest Constitutional Question: Enumerated and Federal Power." Richard describes one of the the most widespread beliefs about constitutional law -- that the federal government is one of limited, enumerated powers -- and why he thinks it is actually wrong. Along t…
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Continuing our long slog through the end-of-Term opinion dump, it's fraud day! We dig into Kousisis v. United States and Thompson v. United States, two interesting federal criminal law puzzles.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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We finally circle back to the two big structural constitutional law cases from the last day of the term. First is Kennedy v. Braidwood Management, which upheld the appointment structure of the U.S. Preventative Services Task Force under the Affordable Care Act. Then is FCC v. Consumers' Research, which upheld the universal-service contribution sche…
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Acting with unpredictable alacrity and unpredictable brevity, we break down the Supreme Court's recent interim order in Trump v. Boyle, and discuss what it means for the unitary executive, and for the shadow docket. We also debate the best name for the Court's emergency/interim orders docket.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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Moving with shockingly unpredictable efficiency, we respond to feedback, debate which of us is more composting-friendly, catch up on the emergency docket, and chip away at our end-of-Term backlog by digging into Diamond Alternative Energy v. EPA.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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We look at the final orders list before summer break, and then continue to work through last month's opinions, this time with an extended analysis of two decisions about children and culture wars -- Mahmoud v. Taylor (religious objections to LGBTQ+-inclusive books) and Free Speech Coalition v. Paxton (age verification for accessing online pornograp…
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We talk a bit more about Trump v. CASA, revisit the usage of "general," answer some voicemails, and then turn to Gutierrez v. Saenz, a procedural tangle about whether a death row inmate can sue a state prosecutor over access to DNA testing.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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In this episode of CFO IQ, host Andrew Zezas shatters conventional wisdom about corporate real estate by revealing that your company's property has multiple values simultaneously—as many as 13 different valuations on the same day. Zezas breaks down how three different buyer types (corporate occupants, investor landlords, and sale-leaseback investor…
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We celebrate the 100th episode of the podcast with a special cross-over episode with Sarah Isgur at Advisory Opinions! Sarah, Will, and Dan break down today's blockbuster decision in Trump v. CASA, forbidding universal injunctions (and not saying much about birthright citizenship).By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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We're joined by a special guest, Harvard Law Professor Stephen Sachs, to talk about Fuld v. Palestine Liberation Organization. Fuld is last week's big personal jurisdiction case, where the Court upheld federal laws extending jurisdiction to the PLO and PA for antiterrorism lawsuits. The author of several important articles on these issues and an am…
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After some feedback and further thoughts on our Skrmetti episode and a shocking revelation about "LabCorp," we circle back to an earlier June opinion about religious distinctions, Catholic Charities Bureau v. Wisconsin Labor & Industry Review Commission. Dan keeps Will up past his bedtime.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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Without much introductory ado, we interrupt Will's vacation to give you a thorough breakdown of United States v. Skrmetti, the trans health care case that is one of the most-watched cases of the term.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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In this episode of CFO IQ, host Andy Zezas teams up with EisnerAmper's Travis Epp and Dean Peterson to decode how recent tariffs are reshaping corporate strategy across industries. The experts explain why "Liberation Day" created unprecedented uncertainty in global supply chains and reveal the key differences between tariffs and international taxat…
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We start out by debating who's responsible for Dan's audio snafus last time before digging into a various odds and ends, such as the Chief Justice's toast at the Supreme Court Historical Society dinner and President Trump's renunciation of Leonard Leo and the Federalist Society. We then try to make sense of the DIG in Labcorp v. Davis and see wheth…
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With apologies for Dan's horrendous audio quality: we catch up on the latest emergency-docket happenings and debate whether Trump v. Wilcox is a big deal or small potatoes. We also catch up on listener feedback and, for the first time in a long time, play a couple of messages received on our voicemail line (314-649-3790 for anyone else who wants to…
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We're joined by NYU law professor Rachel Barkow to talk about her new book Justice Abandoned: How the Supreme Court Ignored the Constitution and Enabled Mass Incarceration. Listen to learn about five (or six) Supreme Court cases that arguably ignored the original meaning of the Constitution to enable our current policing and punishment practices. A…
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We're back with another unexpectedly short and timely episode, focusing on last Friday's emergency docket decision in AARP v. Trump. We also spend a few minutes on a few other orders: the administration's partial victory in Noem v. National TPS Alliance and a puzzling mass recusal.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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In this episode of CFO IQ, host Andrew Zezas sits down with Matt Konwiser, Brand Technical Leader and Field CTO at IBM, to unpack how CFOs can capitalize on artificial intelligence amid its "hectic" state of constant innovation. Konwiser breaks down AI's practical applications in financial forecasting and planning, explaining how combining traditio…
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We reflect on the death of Justice Souter and sort out some loose ends from the last episode. We then dig into the Court's only opinion from Thursday, Barnes v. Felix, which we previewed with friend of the show Orin Kerr back in February at Stanford. Along the way we make a short detour into generative AI and its potential for SCOTUS research. Most…
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In this premier episode of CFO IQ, host Andrew Zezas sits down with Dan Crumb, Executive Vice President and CFO of the Kansas City Chiefs, to unveil how the Super Bowl champions build and maintain their winning culture both on and off the field. Crumb reveals the Chiefs' innovative approaches to enhancing the fan experience through technology inves…
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The shadow docket strikes once again! We break down the Court's unusual immigration ruling in AARP v. Trump (no, not that AARP!), and then briefly discuss the much-heralded ERISA case (Cunningham v. Cornell). But first we discuss some blog news, some SCOTUS news, and some SCOTUSblog news.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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Are you a CFO seeking to hear how accomplished CFOs at some of the most innovative companies achieve success and drive outstanding returns? Are you seeking to gain insights into how fast-thinking CFOs have successfully deployed innovative approaches to achieve great things for their companies? Then, watch or listen to CFO IQ, and hear CFOs and note…
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We have another short administrative law episode, analyzing the Supreme Court's decision about e-cigarettes in FDA v. Wages and White Lion. But first we field some listener pushback about facial challenges in administrative law, and discuss the shadow docket ruling, and ensuing fallout, in Noem v. Abrego Garcia.…
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Thanks to the Harvard Law Review, we recorded a live episode in the famed Austin Hall at Harvard Law School. While we hoped to discuss merits cases, the Court gave us far too much shadow docket activity to break down.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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We are back with an unexpectedly concise episode focused on last week's "ghost guns" decision, Bondi v. Vanderstok. But first we talk about the calls to reconsider the Court's Confrontation Clause doctrine and also return to the number of votes needed to call for the views of the Solicitor General (CVSG).…
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We announce the new Divided Argument blog! After discussing the blog and some listener feedback, we break down two recent 5-4 decisions -- the shadow docket fight over USAID funding in Department of State v. Aids Vaccine Advocacy Coalition and the Section 1983 exhaustion decision in Williams v. Reed (or should we say Rev. Stat. 1979?).…
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Back in the studio after a couple of fun live shows, we discover that the Court has finally given us too much to talk about. We discuss the new Trump Administration's first shadow docket adventure, a number of interesting solo opinions from the orders list, the decline in summary reversals, and the overall quality of oral advocacy before the Court.…
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Divided Argument is live from the Northwestern Pritzker School of Law, hosted by the Northwestern Federalist Society! We discuss whether we are in the middle of a constitutional crisis, the coming demise of Humphrey's Executor, and various shadow docket developments. Then we preview the issues at stake in next month's oral argument about firearms l…
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Divided Argument is live from Stanford Law School, hosted by the Stanford Constitutional Law Center! We review an unusual summary reversal in a capital habeas case and the latest universal injunction developments, and discuss some of the implications of the change in administration. After that, we are joined by a very special guest to discuss the r…
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In unpredictable fashion, we record a shockingly timely episode to reflect on the Court's hasty per curiam in the TikTok case. Along the way, we catch up on the shadow docket happenings, manage not to get derailed by an ethics discussion, discover a surprising opinion revision in real time, and break down the Court's opinion in Royal Canin U. S. A.…
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After an unpredictably long hiatus, we're back to break down what we missed. We debate the off-the-rails FedSoc panel Dan was on, work through some shadow docket happenings and the Court's two recent DIGs, ponder the implications of the election on the Court, and briefly discuss the first merits opinion of the Term, Bouarfa v. Mayorkas.…
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After a long hiatus, we're particularly unpredictable with an episode that isn't about the Supreme Court. We're joined by NYU law professor Daryl Levinson to talk about his exciting and important new book on constitutional theory, Law For Leviathan: Constitutional Law, International Law, and the State. Listen to learn why the Supreme Court's consti…
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We take a long last look at two more end-of-term cases, where the Court made news with what it did NOT decide: Moyle v. United States (the abortion/EMTALA case), and Moody v. Net Choice (state regulation of social media). But first, a bit of debate about some prominent figures in constitutional history.…
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Unpredictably, our recent torrent of episodes continues. We take a deep dive into Moore v. United States, which addressed the scope of Congress's constitutional power to tax.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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We continue our breakneck pace and dig into two substantive criminal law opinions: Fischer v. United States and Snyder v. United States.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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We're back just a few days after our last episode to dive in to Harrington v. Purdue Pharma, a 5-4 decision about the power of the bankruptcy system to release claims against third parties.By Will Baude & Dan Epps
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As the dust settles on the end of the term, we look back to examine two of the Court's criminal procedure cases: Smith v. Arizona (applying the Confrontation Clause to expert testimony) and Diaz v. United States (interpreting Federal Rule of Evidence 704(b)) after a brief discussion of AI, political developments, and judicial robes.…
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