Best David Palumbo Liu Podcasts (2025)

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Bombs Will Never Liberate Iran: Persis Karim and Manijeh Moradian in Conversation 1:03:34

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Today on Speaking Out of Place we have a special episode on the war in Iran. Scholars and activists Persis Karim and Manijeh Moradian discuss both the Iranian national issues involved as well as the regional context, connecting this war with the genocide in Gaza and Israel’s extensive wars elsewhere. At stake is both Iranian sovereignty and the cal…

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Walking with the Below: Zapatistas, Palestinians, and Panthers—A Conversation with Linda Quiquivix 53:40

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On today’s episode I talk with geographer, artist, photographer, and activist Linda Quiquivix about her new book: Palestine 1492: A Report Back. Combining her work learning and working alongside the Zapatistas and Palestinians, and incorporating anti-fascist politics from the Black Panthers, Quiquivix reaches back to the 15th century to see the beg…

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What Was Behind Zohran Mamdani’s Upset Victory and What Does This Tell Us About American Politics Today?: A Conversation with Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood 32:22

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In today’s episode we speak with Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood about Zohran Mamdani’s upset victory in the recent primary for in New York mayor’s race. We first learn more about this 33-year-old socialist, and remarkable campaign he and his team put together to defeat ultimate political insider and ex-governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo. We pro…

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Disspelling the Myths and Correcting the Record About Haitian Migrants: A Conversation with Human Rights Activists Gabrielle Apollon and Pooja Bhatia 43:20

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Today I speak with Gabrielle Apollon and Pooja Bhatia about the histories behind the persecution of Haitian migrants in Springfield, Ohio, and beyond. Targeted as exemplary “bad people” by demagogue Donald Trump, the stories of both the town and the people of Springfield are brought forward by Pooja Bhatia, who lived both in Haiti and as a journali…

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“The Best Social Movements and the Worst Governments”: A Conversation on American Politics with Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood 42:24

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I am joined by two of my favorite guests—Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood. As always, this is a free-wheeling, unscripted conversation amongst friends and political allies. This time we talk about the New York City mayor’s race, Elon Musk and DOGE, the unbridled wave of greed we see on display amongst the oligarchy,…

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Hunger Striking for Palestine: Three Organizers Share Stories and Strategies 59:16

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The academic year has just ended, but student activists for Palestinian liberation are already making plans for next year. On today’s show I talk with organizers from the University of Oregon (Cole Herman), from CUNY Graduate Center (Flora deTournay), and from Stanford (Iman Deriche) about this past year’s hunger strike campaigns—we learn of concer…

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World-Making, Life-Giving, and Indigenous Internationalism: Leanne Betasamosake Simpson and the Theory of Water 43:14

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I talk with Leanne Betasamosake Simpson about her new book, Theory of Water. Theory of Water is a rich, complex, and deeply personal reflection on world-making and life-giving processes best captured in the fluidity of water as it circulates through all our bodies and the planet. It is a largely collective project tha…

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The Journey Toward Everything for Everyone: A Conversation with M. E. O’Brien and Eman Abdelhadi 43:59

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Today I talk with M. E. O’Brien and Eman Abdelhadi about their dazzling and challenging book, Everything for Everyone: An Oral History of the New York Commune, 2052 to 2072. They imagine a world haunted by genocide, ecocide, disease, fascism, and viral capitalism, but rather than writing a dystopian novel, O’Brien and Abdelhadi create a complex mos…

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‘Genius’ Entrepreneurs, Technofacists, and Phobic Misogynists: A Conversation with Becca Lewis 35:22

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Worries about the so-called “pussification of Silicon Valley” are not at all new. Becca Lewis’ work reaches far back in American history to trace the nexus of gender, technology, and entrepreneurship, such that what we find today seems a foregone conclusion. In today’s wide-ranging discussion we talk about the central figure in this history—George …

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The Gaza Tribunal: Creating an Archive Against Genocide 50:24

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This episode of Speaking Out of Place is being recorded on May 15, 2025, the 77th anniversary of the 1948 Nakba, which began the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestinians from their land. We talk with Lara Elborno, Richard Falk, and Penny Green, three members of the Gaza Tribunal, which is set to convene in Saravejo in a few days. This will set in m…

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Constitutional Collapse and the Possibilities of a New Democracy: A Conversation with Aziz Rana 42:39

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In one of the most timely and urgent shows we have ever done, today I speak with law scholar Aziz Rana about his brilliant and bracing article recently published in New Left Review, “Constitutional Collapse.” We talk about how the Trump administration and its enablers are shredding a liberal “compact” which was established in in the 1930s through t…

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“Truth is Never Finished”: The Time of Palestine in Arabic--A Conversation with Fady Joudah 59:10

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Today I have the honor and the pleasure to speak once again with celebrated poet and physician, Fady Joudah. The last time Fady was on the podcast was in November, 2023, shortly after the outbreak of war in Gaza. At that point we spoke about the impossibility of, even then, quantifying the genocide. Today we focus on the politics of language—in par…

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The 2025 National Day of Action: Talking with the Coalition for Action in Higher Education about "the World We Live in and the World We Want." 46:21

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Today we talk with members of the organizing collective of the Coalition for Action in Higher Education, or CAHE, about their second National Day of Action, taking place on Thursday, April 17. The Day of Action is a call for free higher education in every meaning of that term. CAHE calls for “the elimination of all existing student debt, making all…

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A Conversation with Nasser Abourahme on The Time Beneath the Concrete: Palestine between Camp and Colony: The Struggle Over Historical Time 46:13

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Today I speak with Nasser Abourahme about his new book, The Time Beneath the Concrete: Palestine between Camp and Colony. Drawing on a wealth of diverse materials including, but not limited to, state documents, political philosophy, literature, and historical archives, The Time Beneath the Concrete focuses on the “struggle over historical time itse…

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The Radical Healing of Organized Remembering: Jesse Hagopian on Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education 53:09

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Today I have the great honor of speaking with activist and educator Jesse Hagopian about his new book, Teach Truth: The Struggle for Antiracist Education. We talk about the assault on public education that takes the form of criminalizing the truth itself. We note both the powerful corporate forces behind this movement and what they are afraid of, a…

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Thinking Through the Archipelago of Resettlement and the New Southern Question with Evyn Le Espiritu Gandhi 42:00

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In today’s show, I speak with Evyn Le Espiritu Gandhi about two pathbreaking studies which create new ways of thinking about populations bound by complex and contradictory notions of loyalty and psychological investment. Based on meticulous archival research and oral histories amongst disparate populations in South Vietnam, Guam, and Israel-Palesti…

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The Hidden Humans Behind Artificial Intelligence, and the Sociopathology of Elon Musk: A Conversation with Sarah T. Roberts 59:22

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I talk with Sarah T Roberts about the hidden humans behind Artificial Intelligence, which is reliant on executives and business managers to direct AI to promote their brand and low-level, out-sourced, and poorly paid content managers to slog through masses of images, words, and data before they get fed into the machin…

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A Conversation with Laila Lalami on The Dream Hotel: dreaming beyond the algorithmic state 41:35

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I talk with award-winning novelist Laila Lalami about her new novel, The Dream Hotel. What happens when the state, with the pretext of protecting public safety, can detain indefinitely certain individuals whose dreams seem to indicate they may be capable of committing a crime? Set in a precarious world where sleep-enh…

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Rushing to the Right: A Conversation with Adrian Daub on the Significance of the Recent Elections in Germany 39:11

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Today I have the pleasure of talking with Professor Adrian Daub about the recent elections in Germany, where we saw a surge in votes for the Far Right AfD party, which is now the second-most powerful party in the country. We discuss the significance of this rise in popularity, and the ways the elections reveal a number of shifts in German politics,…

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“One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This”: The Deadly Consequences of the Liberal Conscience. A Conversation with Omar El Akkad 35:47

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I talk with Omar El Akkad about his new book, One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This. The title of the book comes from a tweet he posted three weeks after the bombardment of Gaza began. Since then, the tweet has been viewed more than 10 million times. Horrified at what has transpired since that moment, O…

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The Enduring Power of Palestinian Transnational Identity and Activism: A Discussion with Maha Nasser and Karam Dana 1:05:53

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I am delighted to have Professors Maha Nasser and Karam Dana in conversation. Dr. Nasser is author of Brothers Apart: Palestinian Citizens of Israel and the Arab World; Professor Dana’s new book is entitled, To Stand with Palestine: Transnational Resistance and Political Evolution in the United States. Together, these…

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Tao Leigh Goffe on Poetics, Poeisis, and Un-making the Climate Crisis 37:44

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Today I talk with Tao Leigh Goffe about her new, magisterial Dark Laboratory: On Columbus, the Caribbean, and the Origins of the Climate Crisis. Spanning many fields and disciplines in the natural sciences, social sciences, the humanities and the arts, Professor Goffe weaves together an historically rich and geographically complex picture of how ca…

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We Grow the World Together: Parenting Toward Abolition—A Conversation with Maya Schenwar and Kim Wilson 1:03:49

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Today I am delighted to have Maya Schenwar and Kim Wilson on Speaking Out of Place to discuss their new book, We Grow the World Together: Parenting Toward Abolition. We talk about what inspired them to commission a wide range of amazing activists, artists, scholars and organizers to write whatever came to their minds about the topic of parenting an…

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Against “Jewish Innocence”: A Conversation with Peter Beinart on his new book, Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza. 38:05

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Today on Speaking Out of Place we sit down with Peter Beinart to discuss his new book, Being Jewish After the Destruction of Gaza. We ask what led him to write this intense, and intensely provocative book, which declares that Jews “need a new story” other than the current one, in which, Beinart argues, Jews see themselves as innocent with regard to…

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Building Worlds Beyond Modernity’s Double Fracture: A Discussion with Azucena Castro and Malcom Ferdinand 57:39

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I am delighted to be in conversation with Azucena Castro and Malcom Ferdinand. We start with a discussion of what Ferdinand calls the “double fracture”—the environmental division of humans from their connection to the biosphere, and the colonial division instantiated by white supremacism and patriarchy. He insists tha…

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Shaping Iranian Diasporic Identities in Times of Crisis and Change: A Conversation with Persis Karim and Roya Ahmadi 36:58

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Today on Speaking Out of Place we talk with Professor Persis Karim, co-producer and co-director of a new documentary film, The Dawn is Too Far: Stories of Iranian-American Life. She is joined by Roya Ahmadi, a student at Stanford who interned at the Center for Iranian Diaspora Studies at San Francisco State University and was part of the production…

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The Dialectic is in the Sea: A Conversation with Christen A. Smith on the Work of Black Feminist Beatriz Nascimento 1:05:32

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I have the honor of talking with Professor Christen A Smith on a new book she has co-edited entitled, The Dialectic is in the Sea: The Black Radical Thought of Beatriz Nascimento. Smith explains that “Beatriz Nascimento was a critical figure in Brazil’s Black Movement until her untimely death in 1995. Although she pub…

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A.I., Surveillance, and the "Smart University": A Conversation with Lindsay Weinberg and Robert Ovetz 50:56

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I talk with Lindsay Weinberg and Robert Ovetz about the use of Artificial Intelligence in higher education. Under the guise of “personalizing” education and increasing efficiency, universities are increasingly sold on AI as a cure to their financial ills as public funds dry up and college applications drop. Rather tha…

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Solidarity and Resistance in a Time of Genocide: Palestinian Poetry Reveals the Truth Institutions Silence 59:13

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Today on Speaking Out of Place I am honored to welcome Huda Fakhreddine and Anthony Alessandrini to talk about the unique manners in which literature can disclose the human significance of the historical and ongoing genocide in Palestine. Such revelation has to fight at least two things—the sheer brutality and inhumanity of this violence, and the a…

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Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood: What Led to Trump II, and What to Do About It 44:54

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On today’s show we talk with journalists, activists, and political commentators, Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood about the recent Presidential elections. We try to make sense of the fact that a convicted felon, proud misogynist, outright racist, authoritarian figure, and known liar whose first term put nearly all those characteristics on display…

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Environmental Warfare in Gaza: A Conversation with Shourideh Molavi 39:55

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Today on Speaking Out of Place we are joined by Shourideh Molavi, who talks about the ways in which Israel has waged a protracted war on both the people and environment of Gaza. Linking this war to its colonial precedents, Molavi explains who she, as a researcher for the Forensic Architecture project, combines technologies like satellite imaging wi…

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One Year Later—The True Cost of Israel’s War on Gaza and the West Bank: A Conversation with Prof. Sophia Stamatopoulou-Robbins and Dr. Jess Ghannam 51:13

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Today we are joined by Sophia Stamatopoulou-Robbins and Jess Ghannam, who comment on a devastating new report authored by Stamatopoulou-Robbins. This report, “Costs of War,” reviews data gathered in Palestine since October 7, 2023. In that year alone, the report finds that the US has spent at least $22.76 billion on military aid to Israel and relat…

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A. Naomi Paik and Ashley Dawson on the Close Connection between Abolition Sanctuary and Environmental Activism from Below 1:04:22

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Today on Speaking Out of Place we talk with scholar-activists Naomi Paik and Ashley Dawson about the close connection between abolition and environmental activism from below. How are the twin projects raising profound questions about borders, carcerality, enclosures, and the separation of humans from each other and all other forms of life, includin…

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Volunteers to Stop the Destruction of Palestinian Villages and Homes: An Interview with Members of the International Solidarity Movement 47:21

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Today on Speaking Out of Place we are honored to speak with three international volunteers from the International Solidarity Movement. They are all involved in the effort to save the Masafer Yatta region in the Occupied West Bank. While it has been a common practice of psychological warfare for the IOF to place military firing ranges near villages,…

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On the Significance of the New Indonesian Regime and the Need to Revitalize Decolonial Critique: A Conversation with Intan Paramaditha and Michael Vann 1:09:46

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Today, Sunday morning, October 20, former general Prabowo Subianto is being sworn in as Indonesia’s new president. We release a conversation we had earlier this month with Intan Paramaditha and Michael Vann about the road leading up to this inauguration, beginning in the 1960s with the Suharto regime. Prabowo is a strong-arm authoritarian figure wi…

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University of California Faculty Groups File Landmark Unfair Labor Practices Complaint Against UC Over UC’s Repression of Activism for Palestine 47:11

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Today on Speaking Out of Place we are joined by three members of the University of California faculty who are part of groups that have filed a landmark compliant against the UC system. This September, faculty associations from seven University of California campuses along with the systemwide Council of UC Faculty Associations filed an unfair labor …

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An Urgent Episode on Lebanon with Munira Khayyat: A Landscape of War: Ecologies of Resistance and Survival in South Lebanon 57:24

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Today, on Speaking Out of Place, we are honored to talk with Munira Khayyat, a Lebanese anthropologist whose book, A Landscape of War: Ecologies of Resistance and Survival in South Lebanon examines what she calls “resistant ecologies in a world of perennial warfare.” Drawing on long-term fieldwork in frontline villages along Lebanon’s southern bord…

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Indispensable to Efforts to Boycott and Divest from Israel—Maya Wind Documents How Israeli Universities Attack Palestinian Freedom and Maintain the Occupation 48:19

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Today on Speaking Out of Place, we talk with Maya Wind about her book, Towers of Ivory and Steel, How Israeli Universities Deny Palestinian Freedom, published by Verso. Through meticulous research into the archives of Israeli universities and hundreds of other documents, Wind furnishes proof of just how deeply and completely Israeli universities ar…

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Using Satellite Remote Sensing for Environmental Justice: Deploying Data Against the Carceral System 1:09:44

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Today we speak with two scholar-activists who are using satellite technologies and other tools to work for environmental justice, with specific attention to prisons and prison populations. They monitor air quality, water quality, extreme weather and other quantities relevant to EJ. Ufuoma Ovienmhada and Nick Shapiro show how people of color and oth…

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Solidarity Is the Political Version of Love: Lessons from Jewish Anti-Zionist Organizing. Conversation with Rebecca Vilkomerson and Rabbi Alissa Wise 55:37

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Today we speak with Rebecca Vilkomerson and Rabbi Alissa Wise about their foundational work in starting and growing Jewish Voice for Peace. It’s a story captured in their new book, Solidarity Is the Political Version of Love: Lessons from Jewish Anti-Zionist Organizing. We learn about the different phases in the organization’s life—its growing pain…

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Was Stanford Firing 23 Lecturers in Creative Writing Really Necessary? A Conversation with Lecturers and Students 45:43

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Recently, twenty-three lecturers in the highly successful Creative Writing program at Stanford were summoned to a Zoom meeting where they were first praised, and then summarily fired. One of the most surprising aspects of this purge is the fact that it was carried out not by top-tier university administrators, but by tenure-track faculty in the pro…

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Documenting the Fight Against the Palestine Exception: A Conversation with Filmmakers Jan Haaken and Jennifer Ruth 46:23

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The Palestine Exception opens as campus encampments increase across the US in protest against Israel’s war in Gaza. In the largest anti-war movement since the 1970s, students, faculty and staff make demands on their institutions to divest from companies that do business with Israel. The film unfolds as a character-driven story featuring academics w…

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Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood: What to Make of the Democratic Convention? 43:32

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Today we speak with journalists and political commentators Liza Featherstone and Doug Henwood about the state of the US Presidential elections. Recorded just after the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, we muse about Kamala Harris’s ascension, her choice of running mate, the strangely abiding popularity of Donald Trump, and the Democratic p…

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US Immigration and Abolitionist Sanctuary: A Conversation with A. Naomi Paik and Arianna Salgado 1:29:47

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Naomi Paik is the author of Bans, Walls, Raids, Sanctuary: Understanding U.S. Immigration for the 21st Century (2020, University of California Press) and Rightlessness: Testimony and Redress in U.S. Prison Camps since World War II (2016, UNC Press; winner, Best Book in History, AAAS 2018; runner-up, John Hope Franklin prize for best book in America…

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How Are Settler Colonialism, Imperialism, and Elitism Baked into the US Constitution? Aziz Rana on The Constitutional Bind: How Americans Came to Idolize a Document that Fails Them 1:16:57

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Today we speak with legal scholar and historian Aziz Rana about his deep study into the ways the Constitution has been critiqued, reimagined, and adapted from liberal, conservative, radical, progressive, decolonial, and other groups since its inception. What emerges from his book is a demystification of a document that is both durable and malleable…

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Priyamvada Gopal and Françoise Vergès on the Recent Elections in Britain and France 1:06:37

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For our snap episode on the snap elections in the UK and France, we're joined by eminent decolonial scholar activists, Françoise Vergès in France and Priyamvada Gopal in the UK. Following the defeat of right wing parties in both countries in the polls, we discuss what's changed with the elections, what hasn't changed, and what should movements, act…

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Diana Buttu and Richard Falk on the Broad Significance of the ICJ’s Ruling on the Israeli Occupation 46:30

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Charged by the United Nations General Assembly to ascertain the legality of the continued presence of Israel, as an occupying Power, in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, on July 19th, 2024, the International Court of the Justice, the highest court in the world on matters of international law, determined that “The Israeli settlements in the West B…

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What is Behind the Devastating War and Famine in Sudan?: A Conversation with Dr. Osman Hamdan and Umniya Najaer 1:15:48

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Far too few people know about the terrible war and the massive famine taking place in Sudan. Today learn about the long history behind these events, the people and groups involved, and the roles that foreign governments and international organizations like the IMF have played. Importantly, we learn how civil society groups are bringing a form of mu…

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What Do the June 2024 Elections in India Mean? A Conversation with Angana Chatterji & Siddhartha Deb 56:46

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For decades, the works of scholar Angana Chatterji and author and journalist Siddhartha Deb have exposed the violence and fascism lying behind the mythology of India as the world's largest democracy. In the wake of India's most recent elections, in which the far right Hindutva BJP was surprisingly reduced from its former majority to a ruling minori…

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Radical World-Making: A Conversation with Legendary Writer-Organizer-Activist Chris Carlsson 1:06:49

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Today we speak with acclaimed author and activist, and San Francisco legend, Chris Carlsson about his new novel, When Shells Crumble. It begins in December 2024, when the US Supreme Court nullifies the popular vote in the Presidential election and awards the presidency to an authoritarian Republican, who proceeds to demolish democracy and install a…