Sunny Side Up is now 'OnBase', the no-fluff, all-impact B2B podcast bridging the divide between sales and marketing. Hear from the sharpest minds in B2B as they share revenue-boosting tactics and lessons straight from the frontlines and help you solve your toughest challenges.
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GTM Live is a new evolution of Revenue Vitals by Chris Walker, now hosted by Carolyn Dilks & Trevor Gibson, Co-Founders of Passetto — a part tech, part advisory GTM agency for high-performing B2B SaaS companies. This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better. We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about ...
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Welcome to Scrappy ABM – your source for groundbreaking approaches to ABM that don't break the bank. ABM shouldn't cost $200K in technology to even get started. If you want to get started with ABM or make your program better without a massive budget, you're in the right place. Each week, you'll hear from some of the brightest minds in the marketing world who are redefining ABM, achieving incredible results with untraditional methods, limited resources, and a whole lot of creativity. This isn ...
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As ITSMA and TechTarget report that 66% of ABM programs underperform, Kristina Jaramillo (President of Personal ABM) and Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talk to sales and marketing leaders about what's working, what's not working, and how ABM needs to evolve. Along with account-based sales and marketing insights from Kristina and Eric, you will learn from leadership at Challenger, Demandbase, Okta, Uniphore, Alyce, Highspot, Gong, Critical Start, Longbow Advantage, Proof Analytics, Narrati ...
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If you’re a B2B Tech marketer and looking to level up your skills and advance your career, then you’re in the right place. In each episode you’ll hear from some of the world's best B2B Tech marketers about tactics, tools, case studies, wins, failures, hiring, interviewing and so much more..stay tuned..
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Nobody’s prepared to grow a billion-dollar business from square one. So we’re learning from revenue leaders who have already done it. Join host Alex Kracov, former VP of Marketing at Lattice and now Founder and CEO of Dock, as he has candid conversations with successful revenue leaders about their business growth stories. We’ll talk to sales, marketing, and customer success leaders about their growing pains. We’ll interview founders who have built companies from the ground-up. And we’ll talk ...
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Mindful B2B Marketing | Business Growth and Social Impact (Former: Forward Launch Your SaaS)
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Easygoing conversations with marketing execs, CEOs, and entrepreneurs who have led their companies to impressive business growth while maintaining a strong ethical compass. Join us as we dive deep into practical conversations with leaders in the B2B space who have skillfully woven marketing campaigns with a mindful approach towards social good. The podcast, previously known for over 60 episodes as “Forward Launch Your SaaS,” has had guests from notable companies like Hotjar, Otter.ai, Propos ...
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The Product Marketing AI Podcast is on a mission to make the lives of PMM's easier. The average product marketer today does not have access to competitive intelligence, sales enablement, customer research, copywriting, or Go-To-Market tools. We seek to change that by highlighting the tools that Product Marketers need to succeed. Each month we will be speaking to two Product Marketing leaders on the tools they love, the tools they hate, and how AI can make their lives easier, all in 15 minute ...
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Pick One Account, Prove It, Scale It: Executive ABM Without the Lip Service (with Chris Moody from Demandbase) | Ep. 222
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25:55Scrappy ABM host Mason Cosby sits down with Chris Moody from Demandbase to confront why so many ABM programs have failed inside B2B organizations that “tried ABM” over the last five or six years. The conversation centers on executives who launch impressive strategy decks and shiny new initiatives without changing real behavior, staying close to sal…
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Ep. 576 | How continuous brand building powers ABX success
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46:18In this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson sits down with Soumyajit Dey for a deep dive into why continuous brand building outperforms one-off campaigns every time, and how ABX becomes truly powerful only when rooted in purpose, consistency, and relevance. Soumyajit shares his journey from early days in experimental digital marketing to leading gl…
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How to Get Buy-In from Subject Matter Experts Who Don’t Live on Camera (with Phil Pilalas) | Ep. 231
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25:19Subject matter experts are often scientists, coders, founders, or salespeople who never planned to live on camera or spend their days writing, yet the revenue team still needs their stories. On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby and Phil Pilalas, content strategist at Scrappy ABM, get practical about how to create content with people who don’t think of …
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Don’t Get Blacklisted by the C-Suite: Start Small and Come with Value (with Yadin Porter de León from Heroku) | Ep. 230
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25:03Scrappy ABM brings together host Mason Cosby and Yadin Porter de León, Director of Customer Stories and thought leadership over at Heroku, which is a part of Salesforce, to talk about going straight to the top of your target accounts without getting blacklisted. ㅤ Instead of getting stuck in email blasts and third-party events that promise “rubbing…
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Ep. 575 | How to build authentic B2B influence with ABX, thought leadership, and AI
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35:38In this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson sits down with Joel Harrison for a wide-ranging and deeply insightful conversation about one of the most pressing issues in modern B2B: trust. Together, they unpack how trust is eroding across society, why it has become the backbone of successful ABX programs, and how marketers can differentiate in an era…
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Start Small: ABM Programs That Reach the Right Accounts (with Tyler Lessard from Technology Advice) | Ep. 229
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29:44Scrappy targeting, small segments, and extreme empathy for the audience sit at the center of this conversation on Scrappy ABM. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Tyler Lessard, CMO at Technology Advice, to move from a broad “B2B marketing leaders or demand gen leaders” ICP to focused clusters of accounts where the team can win day after day. ㅤ Tyler w…
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Is the Juice Worth the Squeeze of 1:1 ABM? (with Briana Manrique from Bench Prep) | Ep. 228
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25:44Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks that don’t break the bank to B2B teams who want more pipeline and revenue without wasting time and budget. In this conversation, host Mason Cosby sits down with Briana Manrique, head of marketing at Bench Prep, to walk through how a very small marketing team went from casting a wide net to getting more niche a…
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Scrappy Does Not Necessarily Mean Cheap: Less Is More in Early-Stage ABM (with Jess Martin from Metaphor Data) | Ep. 227
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29:35Scrappy ABM brings together host Mason Cosby and Jess Martin, head of demand gen and former head of marketing at Metaphor Data, a new data catalog on the block. At a tiny seed round company trying to punch above its weight, ABM was not a nice-to-have; it was the go-to-market strategy to secure specific logos and move on to the next level. ㅤ Jess wa…
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Why 80% of B2B Marketing Programs Fail before They Even Launch | Ep. 226
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MUST LISTEN: What We Taught 100+ GTM Leaders in Our Invite-Only Workshop
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45:34🔓 LEAKED: 45 minutes from our invite-only workshop for B2B GTM leaders. We recently held a live workshop for 100+ marketing leaders, CROs, and RevOps pros from companies spanning Spain to Sweden to North America. The session was intense. The chat was on fire. And now we're doing something we don't usually do: we're releasing a 45-minute cut of the …
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Ep. 574 | Customer-led growth, AI, and high-impact plays every B2B team should use
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27:48In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Corrina Owens to explore the evolution of account-based marketing, the misconceptions that still persist, and why most companies miss their biggest growth opportunity: their existing customers. Corrina details her non-traditional path into marketing, the value of being a generalist, and how…
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Mapping Buying Groups, PLG Signals, and Real Channels That Your Target Accounts Actually Use (with Liam MacCormack) | Ep. 225
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19:58Scrappy ABM returns with host Mason Cosby and guest Liam MacCormack, founder and solopreneur at Growth by Liam, breaking down how real account-based marketing gets built when the ACV is high, the deals are complex, and shortcuts fail. Liam starts at the only place that matters: historical closed won accounts, not guesses. He walks through a massive…
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Ep. 573 | Why enterprise ABM falls short and how to fix it
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48:39In this episode of OnBase, Paul Gibson talks with Tejal Patel about why ABM often falls short in large enterprises and how companies can fix it. Tejal shares how her B2C background shaped her customer-centric approach and explains the key issues she sees inside big tech—misalignment, data quality gaps, siloed teams, and overreliance on ABM as a sta…
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All ICP Industry Plays, Predictive Intent, and Vertical ABM Programs (with Katerina Maerefat) | Ep. 224
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29:13Scrappy ABM keeps the focus on practical playbooks that don’t break the bank, and this conversation stays locked on real-world execution. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Katerina Maerefat, who has repeatedly launched ABM at Quorum Software, OpenSesame, and Resilinc, shifting teams away from fully inbound spray-and-pray toward strategic account base…
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AI-Powered GTM Build Using Only ChatGPT in Under ONE HOUR (with Jordan Crawford)
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59:30In this HANDS-ON episode of GTM Live, we're ditching theory and building a real go-to-market strategy live—using AI, public data, and a completely different approach to finding and messaging prospects. Join host Amber Williams and special guest Jordan Crawford, the "OG GTM Engineer" and early advisor to Clay, for a masterclass in pain-qualified seg…
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From 60 Podcasts in 60 Days to $3 Million in Pipeline | Ep. 223
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26:13Scrappy ABM hands the mic to another show and lets the numbers speak. Mason Cosby opens this episode of Scrappy ABM by sharing a re-release from Is Anything Real in Paid Advertising?, “the show where we unpack what’s real and what’s just noise” in a chaotic world of marketing and media. Host Adam W. Barney sits down with Mason, who “lives the phras…
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Ep. 572 | How to scale high-quality B2B campaigns with AI
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25:27In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Chelsea Wells to discuss how AI is reshaping the future of demand generation, campaign creation, and attribution. Chelsea shares practical insights from her role at MasterControl, how clean, accessible data powers scalable, high-quality campaigns and how marketers can balance automation wit…
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B2G ABM: “Webinars Are Completely Bottom of Funnel” (with Michelle Hanley) | Ep. 221
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23:13Scrappy ABM brings a focused look at business to government—B2G in the context of an ABM program. Host Mason Cosby sits down with Michelle Hanley to map the nuances of payment processing for governments across state and local. With a finite group of agencies, shifting election cycles, and long six to 24-month timelines, buying groups change and ris…
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The 5 Stages of Revenue Transformation – Stage 1: Escaping the Panic Response
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25:33When pipeline starts slipping and targets go up, most revenue leaders do the same thing: they panic. They launch new experiments, adopt the latest AI tools, and try to do more, faster, harder. But what if that's exactly what's keeping you stuck? This episode is part of a 5-part series exploring the journey B2B revenue leaders take from reactive cha…
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Measuring Success at Every Stage of Your ABM Program | Ep. 220
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10:03“Where are the freaking meetings?” It’s the question every marketer hears — and the one that defines real accountability in B2B marketing. On this solo episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby breaks down how to measure success across every stage of an ABM program so you can focus on the right goals at the right time. ㅤ Rather than chasing meetings…
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Ep. 571 | Marketing leadership in the age of AI: Building smarter teams and measurable growth
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29:19In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Jasmeet Sawhney to explore what it means to lead marketing in an AI-driven world. Jasmeet shares his unconventional journey from engineer to marketing executive, emphasizing how technical fluency and creativity are now inseparable in leadership roles. They dive deep into the evolving respon…
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ICP First: Email, Geo-Targeted Ads, and Events That Move Deals (with Nick Clark from Basis Technologies) | Ep. 219
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22:33Scrappy ABM brings a practical playbook that doesn’t break the bank as host Mason Cosby sits down with Nick Clark to focus on the workflow side of operationalizing an ABM program. The conversation centers on program orchestration—who reaches out at what time with what thing and why—and the underestimated scope of the work. You’ll hear how ICP accou…
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Ep. 570 | Data-driven precision targeting: Workday’s winning ABM formula
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26:43In this episode of the OnBase Podcast, host Chris Moody sits down with Craig Abramson of Workday to discuss how data quality, timing, and automation shape the future of account-based marketing (ABM) and experience (ABX). Craig’s story, starting as a content writer, evolving through startup marketing, and now running enterprise-level ABX programs at…
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Build ABM with What You’ve Got Today | Ep. 218
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34:37Scrappy ABM shares a repurposed conversation where Mason Cosby is interviewed by Rohan Karunakaran on Founder Led. Mason started in sales, learned account based marketing by selling to a very specific niche, and built programs using a really good list, a really good value proposition and offer, and a basic CRM and a marketing automation platform. H…
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Ep. 569 | Jon Miller on how AI is breaking and rebuilding B2B go-to-market
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35:20In this OnBase episode, host Chris Moody reconnects with marketing visionary Jon Miller for a deep dive into the evolution of B2B marketing and the transformative role of artificial intelligence in shaping the future of go-to-market strategy. Jon shares his remarkable journey, from studying physics to co-founding Marketo and Engagio, joining Demand…
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Guide Buyers Through Their Own Funnel (with Steven Tripp) | Ep. 217
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24:24Scrappy ABM spotlights practical playbooks that don’t break the bank, and Mason Cosby welcomes Steven Tripp to focus on what actually moves revenue when sales and marketing aren’t on the same page. Steven’s stance is simple: pick the right accounts, prioritize first-party engagement data, and be brave enough to let buyers pull themselves through th…
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Ep. 568 | Driving 80% more deals: Hexagon’s ABM transformation with Demandbase
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30:47In this OnBase Podcast episode, host Chris Moody sits down with Brynna Self to unpack how Hexagon SIG moved from “running ads to accounts” to a true account-based GTM—and what changed when they adopted Demandbase as their shared sales–marketing system of record. Brynna details the journey from agency days to client-side leadership, why data discipl…
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Do More with Less: Turning Pressure into Performance | Ep. 216
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9:26“Do more with less.” Every marketer has heard it — and probably rolled their eyes. But on Scrappy ABM, Mason Cosby flips that phrase from frustration to fuel. Drawing from his experience generating $25 million in direct revenue — and leading a team responsible for over $100 million — Mason breaks down exactly how to turn limited resources into real…
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Ep. 567 | Content with a pulse: Building brand trust through storytelling
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29:42In this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson sits down with Callum Brodie to explore the evolution of content marketing in B2B and why every brand today needs “content with a pulse.” Drawing on his unique background in journalism, Callum explains how storytelling, empathy, and a genuine understanding of the audience’s “why” can help brands build tru…
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Ep. 566 | Zero-click SEO: How AI is disrupting the B2B buyer’s journey
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36:10In this episode of The OnBase Podcast, host Chris Moody dives deep with Vincent DeCastro to unpack one of the most dramatic shifts in marketing history: the rise of zero-click search and AI-driven buyer journeys. They explore how generative AI tools like ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Claude are transforming how buyers discover and evaluate solutions, of…
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Scale things that don’t scale (with Sidney Waterfall from OpenBrand) | Ep. 215
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28:13Scrappy ABM brings practical playbooks without breaking the bank as Mason Cosby digs in with Sidney Waterfall from OpenBrand. The conversation opens on poor targeting—often the reason ABM fails—and moves straight into a vertical-specific motion with ABM, high touch, and a land and expand play. Sidney shares how using product data as a “cheat code” …
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How ABM Equals "Almost But Meh" for Most ABM Programs
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1:12:41Send us a text The guest on this ABM Done Right Podcast mentioned on LinkedIn recently that in many cases ABM = Almost But Meh. 𝐆𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 ‘𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐢𝐧’ 𝐨𝐧 𝐀𝐁𝐌 𝐢𝐬𝐧’𝐭 𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐤𝐲. 𝐆𝐨𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐡𝐚𝐥𝐟𝐰𝐚𝐲 𝐢𝐬. He also said that - Most teams say they “do ABM.” What they really mean is they run a few ads to a named account list, and call it strategy. That’s not Account-Based Mar…
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Why Account-Based Beats Persona-Based Every Time | Ep. 214
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11:58The only thing worse than getting no customers is getting the wrong ones. In this solo episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby breaks down how misaligned targeting can destroy profit, waste marketing effort, and frustrate every department in the business. He reveals why most B2B programs fail when they focus only on personas, and how to shift towa…
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Ep. 565 | How AI is collapsing traditional GTM funnels and reshaping product marketing
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29:58In this episode of OnBase, host Chris Moody sits down with Madhup Mishra to explore how AI is collapsing traditional go-to-market funnels and reshaping product marketing as we know it. From redefining buyer journeys to measuring real engagement, Madhup offers a candid, strategic look at what it takes to win in an AI-driven world. He shares his phil…
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“Start with One Use Case, Not an ABM Maturity Model” (with Myles Madden from One Password) | Ep. 213
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29:31Leadership hears “ABM” and brings years of baggage. Scrappy ABM flips the script by cutting the re-education and moving straight to results. Host Mason Cosby welcomes Myles Madden to break down how he built ABM from the ground up—again and again—by starting with a sales-led use case, running a quiet pilot with a few reps, and only socializing the w…
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Jayashree Rajan and Eric Gruber on How CMOs Need to Rethink Their Approach to ABM
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1:03:34Send us a text Brandon Redlinger posted on LinkedIn that marketing doesn’t deserve a seat at the table by default. Marketing doesn’t have the respect of the CRO by default. Marketing should have a seat at the table and earn the respect of the CRO and sales, but other members of the C-suite lose confidence in Marketing’s ability to contribute more b…
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Ep. 564 | Client-led GTM: How CMOs can drive sustainable, aligned growth
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46:14In this episode, host Paul Gibson talks with Meta Karagianni about the critical shift toward a client-led go-to-market strategy. Meta shares powerful insights from her recent study of over 100 global CMOs, revealing their top priorities and challenges for 2025. This discussion is a masterclass for any leader looking to move beyond siloed functions …
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The Hidden Power of Rejection Data in GTM (with Steve Armenti)
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52:52On this episode of GTM Live, Carolyn and Amber sit down with Steve Armenti, CEO & Founder of Twelfth Agency and former demand gen leader at Google. Steve shares his journey from corporate marketing to building a thriving agency, and dive into why most revenue teams miss the real story in their data, how to flip the script on pipeline analysis by st…
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$2M in 2 Years Through Account-Based Podcasting | Ep. 212
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56:26Most agencies are stuck in a cycle of referrals, one-off Google searches, or being carried by a few loyal clients. That reality often leaves growth out of your control, pricing in a race to the bottom, and revenue unpredictable. In this live episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Joseph Lewin, head of podcast strategy at Scrappy AB…
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Ep. 563 | How AI is rewriting marketing, data, and the human side of sales
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56:11This episode of the OnBase Podcast dives headfirst into the seismic shifts transforming the marketing landscape. Host Paul Gibson sits down with Fiona Shepherd to discuss the "change imperative", the urgent need for marketing leaders to reinvent their strategies, structures, and mindsets for 2026 and beyond. This isn't just another conversation abo…
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Aligning Teams Around Customer Cohorts for Real Revenue Impact (with Ryan George) | Ep. 211
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20:31Scrappy ABM is all about practical playbooks that don’t break the bank. In this conversation, host Mason Cosby welcomes Ryan George, CMO of Docupace, to break down how cohort analysis reshapes both sales strategy and long-term customer expansion. ㅤ Ryan explains how a board-driven request turned into a framework that now guides sales focus, ABM cam…
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Why leadership doesn't take marketing seriously | Ep. 210
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11:09Leadership isn’t taking marketers seriously because the conversation isn’t happening in their language. On this episode of Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby lays out a practical framework to shift how marketing programs are presented to align with executive priorities. Drawing from his experience generating $25 million in tangible revenue and leading a…
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Building a Modern Growth Engine with Ashley Lewin
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52:44Ashley Lewin has audited 30+ companies in her career and seen the same pattern: marketing teams stuck chasing MQLs while revenue stalls. In this episode, Carolyn and Trevor dig into Ashley’s perspective on why MQLs keep organizations trapped in short-term thinking, and how she’s applying those lessons now as Head of Marketing at Aligned. We talk th…
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Ep. 562 | AI in B2B advertising: Craig Miller (AWS) on what’s next for marketers
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46:59Demandbase CEO Gabe Rogol hosts a critical conversation with Craig Miller of AWS to tackle the seismic shifts reshaping the advertising landscape. They dive into how generative AI and LLMs are fundamentally disrupting digital advertising, from the very definition of context to the future of SEO and SEM. The discussion moves beyond the hype to ident…
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Why your B2B marketing is failing | Ep. 209
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10:26Mason Cosby, host of Scrappy ABM, shares the tale of two marketers: one stuck on the treadmill of being overworked, underappreciated, and afraid of being fired — and another thriving with creativity, freedom, and consistent results. Drawing from real career lessons, Mason lays out the five biggest reasons most B2B marketing programs fail and what i…
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The Role of ABM in Snyk's Customer Marketing Program - A Conversation with Rachel Donner
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47:40Send us a text In this episode of the ABM Done Right Podcast, Eric Gruber (CEO of Personal ABM) talks to Rachel Donner at Snyk about their ABM programs in relation to their customer success programs. You will hear: 1. How true ABM belongs closer to sales and CS than marketing, and why the CRO and CCO should own it. 2. What true 1:1 ABM is - and how…
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Beyond Vanity Metrics: Marketing That Drives Real Business Results, ft. Corey Morris
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48:40In this episode, marketing strategist Corey Morris joins us to unpack why so many companies feel like they’re spinning their wheels with content and campaigns—without seeing real business results. He explains how marketing often gets lost in the weeds of tactics and vanity metrics, and shares how his START Planning Framework brings clarity, account…
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What the HECK Is Rev Ops? People, Process, Tech—Then AI (with Cliff Simon from Polaris) | Ep. 208
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18:39On Scrappy ABM, host Mason Cosby sits down with Cliff Simon, CEO and founder of Polaris, to get clear on “what the heck is rev ops” and where AI is actually useful. Rev Ops sits at the intersection of systems, processes, insights and analytics, enablement, and a maniacal focus on the customer journey. Cliff draws a sharp line between departmental “…
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How to Shift from ‘Marketing-Sourced Pipeline’ to Real Visibility
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50:42If your board asks “Why is pipeline down?” and your opportunity dashboards only say marketing-sourced vs. SDR-sourced (AKA the four-funnel model), you’re stuck with surface-level data and left guessing at fixes instead of diagnosing the problem. The real story lives between engagement and opportunity, the unmeasured factory floor where prospecting …
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Ep. 561 | The review playbook: Boosting B2B revenue and trust
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39:52In this episode of OnBase, host Paul Gibson sits down with Michelle Wrede to explore how businesses can transform customer reviews into powerful drivers of revenue and trust. Michelle shares her unique career path, why psychology plays such an important role in marketing, and how reviews are often undervalued in B2B. From building credibility to im…
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