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The Back 9

Dennis Williams and Josh Mora

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The Back 9 is a podcast hosted by Dennis Williams and Josh Mora, targeting individuals in or approaching mid-life who seek more fulfillment in various aspects of their lives. The hosts discuss topics such as starting over in careers or dating, emphasizing the importance of mindfulness, openness to change, and learning from experiences. The podcast aims to create a safe space for introspection, covering challenges like living alone, dating fears, and making mistakes. They invite guests, inclu ...
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Talent matters. Grit may matter more. On this Surprise Guest episode of The Back 9, we sit down with former NFL wide receiver Drew Haddad — a guy who needed to get every ounce out of his talent to make it in the NFL — for an unforgettable conversation about persistence, growth and the real meaning of success. Drew opens up about how he turned a tin…
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Scott Hanson is an iconic host at the helm of a one-of-a-kind job, and in this unique Surprise Guest episode, he bares all — sharing his story of how chasing his dream nearly cost him everything and how he walked away from his dream life in order to save it. From calling touchdowns to discovering a deeper calling, Scott reveals how his lowest momen…
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While we battle the vagaries of middle age, some of our grown and nearly-grown children may struggle launching their own adult lives. When these struggles descend into addiction, every member of the family can be affected. In this intimate and riveting episode of The Back Nine, we are joined by Mark Astor, an attorney specializing in addiction and …
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On this episode of The Back 9, Dennis and Josh sail back into the world of modern romance with professional matchmaker Shira Weitz for a deep dive on how dating has evolved—especially for those re-entering the scene in middle age after divorce. Shira walks us through the entire process of the when and why one should consider a matchmaker, as well a…
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Things happen to us on the Back 9. Our health might throw us a curve balls. Our dream career can vanish overnight. Our sense of purpose can become elusive. But in this deeply personal and unexpectedly uplifting episode, Rich “The Bull” Gaenzler opens up about his career loss, his health scares, his resulting identity crisis and how he’s since rebui…
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Hockey Coach Blaise MacDonald set his sights high. He won a National Championship as a player. As a coach, he built a Division I program from the bottom up, took that program to the NCAA tournament, and then got hired to lead a team in one of the powerhouse conferences in college hockey. But somewhere along the way, his aspirations mellowed, and he…
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Ladies and Gentlemen, now taking the stage is Comedian Greg Schwem, a guy who is taking the tough lessons of life and spinning them into comedy gold. Greg shares how he has found humor in the unexpected, survived the bewilderment of dating and mid-life, and proved that starting over isn’t just possible, but can also be amusing, hysterical and humbl…
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Did you know that you can now buy coffee at a cafe with crypto currency? Do you have a virtual wallet, and is it ready for the digital revolution? In this eye-opening, and season-opening episode of The Back 9, Dave Grimaldi, former EVP of the Blockchain Association, teaches us about Crypto from a 50-thousand foot level. He dissects terms, breaks do…
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On this episode of The Back 9, we weigh all the big questions of the future. How can we model for men to become more open and honest? How do we best parent our adult children? Should The Back 9 get a mascot? We know you are interested in all of these — especially the last one. But it’s not just about mascots—this episode takes a heartfelt turn as w…
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As we wrap up Season 6 on The Back 9, we take you behind the scenes of the journey that made this season special. While we were landing new partners at Podfest, and performing live at Pod-a-pa-looza, we released a season full of memorable episodes that are worth revisiting. We went deep into love, dating and relationships with Brian Howie and Sweet…
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One minute, Julie Miles thought she had normal stomach pains. The next, she was fighting for her life. Julie is the unstoppable Australian jewelry stylist and fashionista who kicked a Stage 4 cancer diagnosis in the ass, transforming her life into one of passion, purpose, and high-end achievement. Julie shares the story of the pivotal advice that s…
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In the second half of our secret guest episodes, Josh taps ESPN’s Jay Harris to surprise Dennis, and to share an insightful conversation about the evolution of the power of storytelling, both professional and personal. From his early days in news to becoming a staple behind the desk at ESPN, Jay shares the lessons he’s learned, the impact of his me…
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It’s the second season of surprise guests on the Back 9, and Dennis has dialed up a winner. A 2-time winner in fact. The guest is former PGA tour pro Dudley Hart, a guy who was sneaky good and steady for a long time before devastating injuries derailed his career. But Dudley has found joy in his second act as a coach – teaching the next generation …
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It’s a long-awaited resource episode of the Back 9, as we bring in Matthew Nadeau, wealth management expert and calculated risk-taker to help guide us through the financial decisions we may confront at this stage of life. Matthew will share his story of how he left corporate America to build his own firm, then offer practical advice on topics such …
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You’ve likely never asked what man buns, backup quarterbacks and Back 9 dating life have in common, but if you have this is the episode for you. We welcome Carolina Rush and Andrea Trout from the Sweet and Spicy podcast onto the Back 9 for an unfiltered dive into the wild world of dating after 40. From online dating disasters and matchmaking myths …
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On this episode of the Back 9, we explore how to balance the grind of adulthood with the joy of living like a kid again. Our guest is Matthew Atkinson, a front 9er who founded the Lost Boys lifestyle brand, which explores the art of combining passion and responsibility, and celebrates the commitment to taking time off to recharge, even if we have t…
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Friends, our first episode of the New Year features a guy who may be most comfortable on the edge. He’s been on the edge of being an NFL player. He’s been on stage as a professional stripper. And he was recently arrested in a remote region of Russia where he had been training with mixed-martial artists. If that doesn’t pique your interest, then lis…
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If you’ve been looking for love in all the wrong places, then join us for this special New Year's Eve episode of The Back 9, with Dating Expert Brian Howie. Brian is the prolific host of the highly acclaimed Great Love Debate podcast, and as we turn the calendar to 2025, he helps us dive deep into the modern world of dating, relationships, and navi…
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Sometimes our guests take us someplace unexpectedly wonderful, and we kick off Season 6 with a glorious episode with powerhouse Author Denene Millner. Denene is the author of the highly acclaimed novel, One Blood, as well as the The Sistah Rules, several books for young adults, and is the co-author of books with celebrities like Steve Harvey, Taraj…
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Friends, we recorded this episode the morning after our live anniversary bash, which brought back memories of Vegas benders, sleepless golf trips and other tales of debauchery from our wilder 20-something days. And those stories put into perspective our takes on relationships, personal growth and other reflections on meaningful middle age. Those pa…
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It’s a party on The Back 9! Broadcasting live from Taco Tuesdays Taqueria in Delray Beach, Florida, as we invite several guests to celebrate our first anniversary, and close Season 5 in style. With our first ever live audience bringing the energy, this episode is packed with heartfelt reflections, hilarious moments, and inspiring stories. We update…
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In this powerful episode of The Back 9, Dennis and Josh wrap up Season 5 with an inspiring conversation featuring Matt Gilhooly, creator of the award-winning podcast The Life Shift. Matt takes us on an emotional journey, sharing how a life-altering moment in his childhood shaped his mission to uncover the pivotal moments that define all of us. From…
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In this very light episode, Dennis and Josh get to know Donna Taylor and Brittany Boo, hosts of the Talk Birdie to Me podcast, for a deep dive into the transformative power of community. Donna shares her story of growing up in a golfing family, burning out as a competitive player, and then deploying other passions – like yoga – to find a new approa…
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In this special guest episode of The Back 9, Dennis surprises Josh with legendary tough guy and hockey leader Rob Ray. Razor reflects on his unique career, from scoring his first NHL goal to shaping a legacy that fits the blue-collar spirit of the fans that cheered him on. Beyond the fights and penalty minutes, Ray offers insight into his life afte…
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Ssssh! It’s a surprise! It’s the first of our secret guest episodes and we are starting with an ACE. It’s a compelling conversation with the GOAT of Ladies Golf, Annika Sorenstam. Annika shares her transformation from childhood tennis prodigy to golfing superstar, as she reflects on her groundbreaking career, the importance of the mentors who guide…
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Few of us have ever won a National Championship, and fewer still have won something as large as the Super Bowl. On this Episode of the Back 9, we introduce you to Pastor Tim Johnson, someone who has done both of those things, and yet neither stands as his largest accomplishment. Most recently, Tim embedded himself in one of the most violent section…
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This episode of the Back 9 will stimulate the brain and soothe the ears. We welcome the resonant voice of Nick Warner, a former high-powered lobbyist who made a bold transition to become a successful business consultant. Nick shares his compelling story of how he walked away from a decades-long career influencing California’s political arena, to pi…
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Class is in session on this episode of the Back 9. Our guest this week is Barbie Boules, aka "The Cognition Dietitian,", and she joins to share her expert insights about how the things we ingest in middle age impact – and potentially impair – our senior years. She offers instruction on how to monitor our metabolic health, and strategies for creatin…
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This episode starts with a review of great public bathrooms and secret champagne bars, and only gets better from there. Because we are joined by podcasting star and Boston broadcasting legend Kim Carrigan. Kim opens up about how she maintains friendships through the volatility of life, how she taps into innate curiosity to help keep her life and he…
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In this high-energy opener to Season Five of The Back Nine, we sit down with the dynamic and highly accomplished Kraig Kann, who went from being a top sportscaster at the Golf Channel to the Chief Communications Officer of the LPGA, to then founding his own, now-thriving business. His journey is packed with engaging stories – from behind-the-scenes…
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Welcome to Season 5! We are back with renewed energy, as we dive into a season packed with intriguing new topics that populate the Back 9 of life. We start with a moment to reflect on something that has left a lasting impact on one of us, and how it is shaping our focus for the season ahead. We’ll preview some of the topics we’re going to explore, …
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We wrap season 4 with a powerhouse episode that explores how simple acts of kindness can resonate in someone’s life for decades. We dive into the power of vulnerability and uncover how being present and truly listening can leave lasting impressions. We reflect on all the things we learned this season about how we can be better men in our relationsh…
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We close out season four of The Back 9 with an episode that simply could not be more relevant and more important for our time. We visit with author, life coach and old friend Morgan Rich for a thought-provoking conversation on modern masculinity and what it means to be a healthy alpha male. We weigh the balancing act of how to be competitive and as…
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On this episode of The Back 9 we host a true virtuoso in Brad Gemeinhardt, Principal French Hornist at the Metropolitan Opera, for a truly introspective conversation about nurturing one’s dreams, making a commitment to one’s craft, and finding one’s true calling. Brad shares his remarkable journey, from discovering his passion and talent for the Fr…
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It’s not every day that we get to visit with a 9-time Pro Bowler and 4-time All-Pro NFL icon, but even beyond the accolades, Ruben Brown is just a great hang. Ruben played 13 seasons in the NFL, including in a Super Bowl, yet remains as down-to-earth a guy as one could hope to meet. In this episode, Ruben weighs in on the NFL season ahead, but mayb…
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On this episode of "The Back Nine," we visit with our long-lost friend Mike Schopp, the incredibly sharp and incisive voice of Buffalo sports radio. But Mike’s insights go well beyond Western New York and the usual sports-talk banter. He opens up about the evolution of his career in an extremely relatable way, from the pressures of proving himself …
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As part of each season, we provide episodes that serve as resources for our Back 9 community, but we’ve never done it like we do on this episode. We visit with Dr. Michael Barber, the Medical Director and Lead Cardiologist at Colorado’s Strata Med, a resort facility dedicated to providing primary health care, rather than primary sick care. Dr. Barb…
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Friends, on this episode of the Back 9 we take a look at how Back Niners can keep their relationships healthy and connected. We’re joined by therapists Colette Fehr and Laura Bowman, the sharp and astute hosts of the "Insights from the Couch" podcast. Together, we take on the emotional hurdles that often accompany midlife relationships, and how par…
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In this electrifying episode of "The Back 9," we explore the extraordinary life of Danny Heinsohn, a man who turned a devastating diagnosis into a powerful narrative of hope and achievement. At just 23, Danny faced a brain tumor diagnosis that altered his life and threatened to derail his dreams. Instead of surrendering, he leaned in, channeling hi…
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So a comedian walks into a podcast studio. At least he does on this episode of The Back 9. And it’s not just any comedian, it’s quite possibly the world’s only lawyer-turned-cruise director-turned comedian. He’s Mark Christopher, and if that premise isn’t funny enough, Mark provides a ton of laughs as he shares how he found his unique path to his p…
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We open this season with an episode that is, dare we say, en fuego. Our guest is none other than sportscaster, entertainer and mentor Dan Patrick. Dan talks about the courage it took for him to make his turn from being at the top of his profession at the Worldwide Leader, to going out on his own and becoming his own brand. Dan also shares his motiv…
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Welcome to the prelude to Season Four of "The Back Nine"! This season, we're bringing you captivating stories and practical insights from top-tier celebrities, including athletes, tv stars and musical virtuosos, as well as licensed experts and regular folks with amazing, life-changing experiences to share. In this opening episode we’ll relate how t…
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So we’ve taken taken off our caps and done the handshake thing, now we’re headed to the clubhouse to navigate what we learned in Round 3, and man, there was a lot. This season we peppered you with celebrities’ experiences, stories from peers and counsel from seasoned professionals who provided resources to help us navigate life’s second half. The a…
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Friends, we promised you a bag full of resources on the The Back 9, and on this episode we close season 3 with an emphatic flourish. We ride the wings of the dynamic Cliff Moitt, personal trainer for high-achieving professionals and elite forces, as we fly into a transformative journey to discover why we need to work out, and the deeper connections…
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We encourage you to do some active stretching before you jump into this edition of the Back 9, because this episode is a vigorous workout. Join us and our Special Guest, Marc Middleton, the famous journalist and founder of Growing Bolder, as we both humorously dissect the quirks of aging, and seriously talk strategy about how to move through middle…
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Friends, on this episode, we continue our Father’s Day discussion, and go beyond the surface to uncover the wisdom of our fathers, the roles we all play as fathers and sons. Our conversation gets both intimate and emotional, as we explore what it means to embrace selflessness, reflect on the enduring influence of fatherly love and support, and disc…
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Friends, this one is special. It’s a Father's Day edition of "The Back 9," and so we’ve invited our own fathers to the studio to share the joys, the love and the lessons they’ve taken away from their lives to date. From their 8th and 9th decades, what can they tell all of us about what they learned on the journey from middle age to senior citizensh…
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On this episode of The Back 9, we’re thrilled to welcome Heather Lockett, the brilliant mind behind the podcast "Lasting Conversations." Heather shares her fascinating journey through the stages of life that led to her becoming a resonant and influential podcast host. Her tales of transitioning from career, to and through motherhood, to ultimately …
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On this episode of the Back 9, we're joined by the remarkable Brad Carpenter, Founder of Bushwood Spirits and the gloriously named Back 9 Bourbon, who shares his incredible journey from a near-fatal accident to crafting a brand that's all about resilience and storytelling. You'll be captivated by the story of how his severe injury -- and a deep con…
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Join us on this episode of the Back 9 as we shatter your image of what a rock star is and how a rock star behaves. Matt Heafy is the lead singer of the world-renowned metal band, Trivium, but he is so much more: He is a fantastically successful scorer of films and games, a cook, a restauranteur, a husband, a father, and a dedicated student of the w…
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