Control System Cyber Security Association International, or (CS)²AI, is the premier global non-profit workforce development organization supporting professionals of all levels charged with securing control systems. With over 34,000 members worldwide, we provide the platform for members to help members, foster meaningful peer-to-peer exchange, continue professional education, and directly support OT and ICS cyber security professional development in every way. Our founder, Derek Harp, intervi ...
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129: Why OT Cybersecurity Isn't a One-Tool Problem: Insights to be discussed at Level Zero
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14:48In this insightful episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Jay Gignac, Vice President of Sales at FoxGuard Solutions, (CS)²AI Fellow and a passionate OT cybersecurity evangelist. The conversation centers around some of the most pressing challenges in the control systems industry—asset visibility, patch management, and community col…
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128: From the Pentagon to Public Safety: Lucian Niemeyer’s Mission to Secure OT
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28:24Lucian Niemeyer, Chief Executive Officer of Building Cyber Security and former Assistant Secretary of Defense, joins Derek Harp to discuss the growing cyber risks to operational technology (OT) systems and the urgent need for proactive frameworks to protect public safety. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this episode delves into the vulnerabi…
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127: Unlocking the Power of Asset Inventory in OT Cybersecurity with Roya Gordon
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24:22Roya Gordon, previously the Executive Industry Consultant - Operational Technology (OT) Cybersecurity at Hexagon Asset Lifecycle Intelligence and currently, is the Deputy CISO at ENGIE North America Inc., joins Derek Harp live from Hack the Capitol 7.0 to explore the evolving landscape of asset inventory in operational technology (OT). Roya breaks …
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126: Shifting Left: Why Secure Software Starts at the Design Stage
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35:00In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Mehdi Tarrit Mirakhorli, Associate Professor at the University of Hawaii and a Cybersecurity Expert, to discuss Secure by Design—a fundamental shift in how we develop and deploy software in industrial control systems (ICS) and operational technology (OT). With over 15 years of R&D exp…
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125: Decoding SBOMs: Kyle McMillian on Cybersecurity and Supply Chain Transparency
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27:24Derek Harp welcomes Kyle McMillian, Product Security Officer at Siemens, to discuss the evolving landscape of software bill of materials (SBOMs) and their role in modern cybersecurity. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this conversation unpacks the challenges and opportunities posed by SBOMs in an industry grappling with legacy systems and mod…
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124: Capture the Flag: Transforming Cybersecurity Training with Kenneth Warren
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23:12Derek Harp sits down with Kenneth Warren, Staff OT and Offensive Security Engineer at GRIMM Cyber, to discuss how gamification and Capture the Flag (CTF) competitions are revolutionizing cybersecurity training. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this conversation explores how CTFs and cyber ranges create safe, hands-on environments for learning…
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123: From Classroom to Crisis: Immersive Training for ICS Security Professionals
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23:00Derek Harp hosts Jeff Hahn, Project Manager at Idaho National Laboratory (INL), to discuss innovative approaches to training in the ICS and OT cybersecurity space. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, Jeff shares insights into how INL’s escape rooms provide hands-on, immersive learning experiences for professionals and students alike. The escape …
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122: Securing the Future: Rob Shaughnessy on Innovation, Supply Chain, and Cyber Threats
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33:13Derek Harp welcomes Rob Shaughnessy, President & CEO, Director of Psymetis, Inc., to discuss critical issues in the world of ICS and OT security, recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0. Rob dives into the vulnerabilities surrounding the development of innovative technologies, supply chain risks, and the evolving threat landscape posed by nation-stat…
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121: From Farm to Fork: Kristin Demoranville on Food Safety and Cybersecurity
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24:35The intersection of cybersecurity and the food industry takes center stage as Kristin Demoranville, founder and CEO of Anson Sage and host of Bytes and Bites, joins Derek Harp at Hack the Capitol 7.0. This compelling conversation reveals how digital systems impact every aspect of the food supply chain, from farming and production to transportation …
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120: ResetCon and the Future of Cybersecurity: Insights from Jay Warne
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22:26In this episode of the (CS)²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp welcomes Jay Warne, co-founder of ResetCon, to discuss the intersection of cybersecurity research, critical infrastructure, and collaborative defense strategies. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this conversation highlights the pressing need to close gaps between academia, offensive rese…
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119: Revealing the OT Threat Landscape: Remote Access, Supply Chain, and Lateral Movement
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19:37Our host Derek Harp sits down with Adam Robbie, Head of OT Threat Research at Palo Alto Networks, live from Hack the Capitol 7.0. Adam shares critical insights into emerging cybersecurity challenges within Operational Technology (OT) environments, including findings from Palo Alto's extensive OT threat landscape research. Listeners will hear about …
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118: Preparing for Cyber Threats: A Strategic Discussion with Mark Montgomery on Securing Our Future
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13:26In this episode of the CS2AI Podcast, host Derek Harp dives deep into the evolving threats to national security and critical infrastructure with Mark Montgomery, Senior Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies. Recorded live at the Hack the Capitol 7.0 conference in Washington D.C., this episode sheds light on the increasing cyber vulner…
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117: Rapid7’s Approach to ICS and OT Security: Lessons from the Field
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24:45Join Derek Harp and his guests from Rapid7—Lonnie Best, William Price, and Nicholas Butcher—as they delve into the critical challenges and exciting opportunities within the Operational Technology (OT) and Industrial Control Systems (ICS) cybersecurity landscape. Recorded live at Hack the Capitol 7.0, this episode highlights the growing demand for O…
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116: Cyber Safety in the Age of OT Threats: Insights from Lucian Niemeyer
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31:33In this episode of the CS²AI Podcast, host Derek Harp is joined by Lucian Niemeyer, CEO of Building Cybersecurity, for an enlightening discussion on the critical importance of protecting operational technology (OT) systems. Recorded at the Hack the Capitol 7.0 conference, Lucian emphasizes the increasing threats to critical infrastructure posed by …
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115: Cyber Informed Engineering: Protecting Critical Infrastructure with Ginger Wright
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24:07Derek Harp hosts Virginia "Ginger" Wright, a program manager at Idaho National Laboratory, known for her pioneering work in cybersecurity for critical infrastructure. Ginger shares the history and importance of Cyber Informed Engineering (CIE) and how this engineering philosophy integrates safety protocols directly into the design of industrial sys…
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114: Hack the Capitol 7.0: Building Cybersecurity Connections with Bryson Bort & Tom Van Norman
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17:08In this episode, host Derek Harp sits down with Bryson Bort and Tom Van Norman, co-founders of ICS Village and creators of Hack the Capitol. They discuss the origins and evolution of Hack the Capitol, now in its seventh year, and the conference’s unique focus on bridging cybersecurity professionals with policy makers and industry leaders. They dive…
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113: Shaping the Future of OT Security with Dale Peterson
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32:25In this episode, the conversation centers on the critical role of operational technology (OT) security and the unique contributions of the S4 Conference. Dale Peterson shares his journey and insights into the challenges of underrepresentation in cybersecurity, especially for women and other groups, and highlights innovative scholarship initiatives …
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112: Breaking Barriers in Cybersecurity: Roya Gordon’s Transformative Journey and Expert Advice for Veterans
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46:51Today, we are thrilled to welcome Roya Gordon as our guest. Roya is an executive industry consultant specializing in operational technology, cybersecurity, and Hexagon. She is a military veteran, an accomplished technologist, and a prolific speaker in our industry. Her creativity knows no bounds, encompassing her passion for the arts and her love o…
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111: From Scrubbing Hard Drives to Securing the Future: Max's Journey in Cybersecurity
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36:04We are thrilled to have Max Aulakh, the Founder and CEO of Ignyte Assurance Platform, joining us today. Max is a military veteran and motorcycle enthusiast who enjoys doing voluntary work. He is a prolific contributor to the cybersecurity community, always willing to be of service to others. When Max was three, his father applied for American citiz…
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110: Global Cybersecurity Insights with Mike Holcomb
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50:39We are delighted to have Mike Holcomb joining us on the show today. Mike is both a fellow and a cybersecurity director, and he currently serves as the ICS OT Cybersecurity Global Lead at Fluor, a massive multinational engineering and construction firm with over 40,000 employees. He has participated in many major building projects, and we are excite…
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109: Teaser for the CNI Research Report with Chase Richardson
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18:13We are delighted to have Chase Richardson, the VP of Consulting at Bridewell, back on the show today. Bridewell boasts a rich history in industrials, offering comprehensive cybersecurity services across the entire cybersecurity spectrum, including operating technology. Recently, Bridewell came up with an insightful report on cybersecurity within th…
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108: Mastering Data Complexity: Insights from Chase Richardson and Martin Riley on OT Integration
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49:21We are delighted to have Chase Richardson, Head of US Operations for Bridewell, and Martin Riley, Director of Managed Services for Bridewell, joining us today! We are changing things slightly for this episode, with Martin and Chase diving into how to integrate OT systems into your sim rather than presenting our regular biographical format. Their fo…
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107: Keeping the Lights On: Carlos's Roadmap to Becoming an Energy Cybersecurity Pro
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41:36We are thrilled to welcome Juan Carlos Buenano as our distinguished guest for today’s episode of the CS2AI podcast! Carlos is the Chief Technology Officer for OT at Armis. He is a born technologist and an engineer by training. Beyond his professional endeavors, he embraces a life filled with adventure, enjoying many outdoor activities, including sc…
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106: Top Gun Meets the Cloud: Ken's Guide to Keeping Your Airplanes (and Data) Safe
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42:08We are delighted to have Ken Munro joining us from the UK today! Ken is a Partner and Co-founder of Pen Test Partners. He is a seasoned technologist, the founder of multiple ventures, a pilot, a skier, and a dynamic and adventurous contributor to our community. Ken brings a wealth of experience and expertise that promises to enrich our understandin…
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105: Beyond Boundaries: Unveiling the Multifaceted World of Michelle Balderson
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46:37We are excited to bring you another captivating industry leader interview today. In this episode, we interview Michelle Balderson, the Principal Security Architect at Issquared. Michelle is a seasoned professional. In addition to having extensive experience as an established contributor and leader within the industry, she is a technologist, devoted…
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104: Author Spotlight™ - An Interview with Andrew Ginter, Author of Engineering-Grade OT Security: A Guide for Managers
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1:08:15Today, we are bringing you a fresh, new format called the Author Spotlight, where we focus on the authors within our community. We are delighted to launch the Author Spotlight by shining our light on Andrew Ginter, the VP of Industrial Security at Waterfall Security Solutions. Andrew has been a steadfast CS2AI supporter since its inception, dedicat…
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103: Diving into the Multifaceted World of Ron Fabela: From Cybersecurity Leadership to Goat Herding and Beyond
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46:17We are thrilled to have another exceptional guest on the show today! Ron Fabela is the Field Chief Technology Officer at Xona. He is a multifaceted individual who has been a stalwart contributor to the industry for many years. His impressive resume includes being an Industrial Security champion, a military veteran, and a technologist. Beyond his pr…
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102: Unveiling the Multifaceted Brilliance: A Dive into the World of Bill Lawrence
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44:27We are delighted to have Bill Lawrence, the Chief Delivery Officer at Itegriti Corporation, joining us on the podcast today! For those unfamiliar with Bill, he is a well-rounded and multifaceted individual. He is a technologist, artist, and a loving father and husband, in addition to being a talented singer, Navy veteran, and pilot. Bill is known i…
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101: Exploring the IoT and OT Cybersecurity World with Dr. Jesus Molina: An Expert's Insights and Experiences
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1:01:29We are delighted to have another remarkable guest joining us on the podcast today! Dr. Jesus Molina, the Director of Industrial IoT at Waterfall Security Solutions, is a seasoned cybersecurity practitioner and well-known OT cybersecurity thought leader. He is a technologist and inventor driven by an insatiable curiosity. In addition to being a copi…
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100: Exploring OT Security and Cyber Practices with IBM's Rob Dyson
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56:53We are delighted to welcome Rob Dyson as our special guest for the 100th episode of the CS2AI podcast! Rob is the Global OT Security Services Leader for IBM. Beyond his corporate role, he is a military veteran, a tech enthusiast, a devoted father and husband, a proud grandfather, and an avid scuba diver. His extensive experience overseeing key serv…
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99: Exploring the Multifaceted World of Gary Kessler: From Cybersecurity Expert to Master Scuba Diver Trainer
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52:56We are delighted to have Gary Kessler joining us as our special guest for today's episode of the CS2AI podcast show! Gary is a multifaceted individual with a diverse array of interests. He has been involved in many different projects over time and has worn various hats under the umbrella of his company, Gary Kessler Associates. His impressive liter…
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98: Unlocking the Cybersecurity World with Vincent Riou: Insights and FIC Event Preview
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27:55We are delighted to welcome Vincent Riou as our special guest for today’s CS2AI podcast! Vincent is a distinguished figure within the cybersecurity industry who has profoundly impacted the field in recent years. He is a multifaceted individual with a passion for uniting people- even tens of thousands of individuals at times, for various causes. He …
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Encore: Using Mentorship to Help Advance Your Cybersecurity Career with Susan Peterson Sturm
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37:54Today, Derek Harp interviews Susan Peterson Sturm, the Chief Information Security Officer at Cognite. Susan is a Transformational Operational Technology leader with 20 years of experience in profitably scaling innovative software-based businesses, including automation, IIOT, and cyber security. She has a proven track record of growing and structuri…
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Encore: Leveraging Your Military Career to Carve Out a Cyber Security Career with Dr. Michael Chipley
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41:40Dr. Michael Chipley, the Founder and President of the PMC Group, is the guest for today’s podcast. Dr. Chipley has over 30 years of consulting experience in the areas of Program and Project Management, Cybersecurity, Energy and Environmental (LEED, Energy Star, and Carbon Footprint); Critical Infrastructure Protection and Analysis; Building Informa…
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97: Navigating Transportation Security: A Keynote with TSA Administrator David Pekoske
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47:55We are excited and very grateful to have David Pekoske, the current Administrator for the Transportation Security Administration (TSA), joining us today to share a closeout keynote he recently delivered. With a distinguished career spanning many years of dedicated service within the Coast Guard and the Department of Homeland Security, Administrator…
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96: Exploring the Depths of Industrial Cybersecurity with Joe Weiss
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54:48Derek is thrilled to have a true industry legend returning to the podcast today! Joe Weiss, the Managing Partner at Applied Control Solutions LLC, initially appeared on the show in episode 61. If you have not already done so, you can listen to that episode to learn more about his biography and personal journey. Joe's reputation in the industry prec…
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95: Exploring the Tech Odyssey: A Conversation with Ron Gula, Co-Founder of Tenable
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51:00Derek is delighted to welcome Ron Gula of Gula Tech Adventures and Co-Founder of Tenable as the guest for today’s show! His name is synonymous with innovation and expertise, and many listeners are bound to recognize the companies he has either birthed or influenced. Ron is originally from upstate New York. He was born in Rochester, grew up in Syrac…
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94: Exploring Cybersecurity and Beyond: The Remarkable Journey of Robert Putman
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47:48Step into the cybersecurity world alongside Derek today as he brings you another riveting discussion with an esteemed expert! Rob Putman is the Global Manager of Cybersecurity Services at ABB Process Automation. At the core of his journey lies an unquenchable thirst for understanding that has fueled his prowess within the cybersecurity world and be…
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93: Navigating Cybersecurity Realms: Unveiling Chris Kirsch's Multifaceted Journey
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50:25In the captivating world of cybersecurity, where technology and innovation intersect to safeguard our digital landscapes, Derek is delighted to welcome today's distinguished guest, Chris Kirsch! Chris is a man of multifaceted talents and roles. In addition to being the Co-founder and CEO of runZero , he is also a husband, a runner, a social enginee…
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92: From Military Service to Cyber Luminary: Bryson Bort's Inspiring Journey
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57:08Step into the cybersecurity world with Derek Harp for another riveting episode of the CS2AI podcast show! Derek has welcomed a vast array of industry titans onto the podcast, and this episode is no exception! Today’s show features Bryson Bort, the CEO and luminary Founder of Scythe. Bryson’s influence spans the domains he has touched, nurtured, adv…
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91: Explore How We Can Shape a Promising Future with Dr. Barton Miller
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48:32In an ever-evolving world where progress accelerates exponentially, the pursuit of knowledge and an unwavering commitment to shaping a prosperous future have never been more vital. Today, we have the distinct honor of hosting a true trailblazer in the field of academia and industry as Dr. Barton Miller, the esteemed Vilas Distinguished Achievement …
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90: SBOM: The Future of Cybersecurity with Daniel Bardenstein
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34:02Prepare yourself for another captivating episode of the CS2AI Podcast! Today, we feature an exclusive interview with Daniel Bardenstein, a former USG official turned entrepreneur. Having recently launched a groundbreaking start-up centered on the critical concept of SBOM, Daniel brings a wealth of insider knowledge and experience to the table! Dani…
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89: Putting Creativity and Problem Solving Skills to Use in Cybersecurity with Mike Radigan
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51:07Get ready for another captivating interview with a true cybersecurity luminary! Joining Derek on the podcast today is the multi-talented Mike Radigan! Mike is a seasoned cyber risk advisor at Cisco with a diverse background and a knack for problem-solving. Mike's current role is impressive, and his entire journey has been nothing short of extraordi…
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88: CyberSecurity - The Passport to a Global Career with Omar Sherin
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49:33You are in for a treat today because we have an extraordinary guest and true industry titan joining us! Omar Sherin is a renowned cybersecurity expert. He is a partner at Ernst and Young Digital Solutions and Cybersecurity and former director of OT Cybersecurity for the same prestigious firm. However, Omar is multifaceted, and his story goes beyond…
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87: Cyber Security for Transportation, Part 3 : Rails
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51:42Today, we are excited to share a riveting panel discussion on cybersecurity for Rails! We are honored to introduce our esteemed panelists, three remarkable individuals with a wealth of knowledge and expertise. Their diverse backgrounds and extensive experience in their respective domains make them invaluable contributors to today's discussion. Miki…
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86: Cyber Security for Transportation, Part 3: Maritime
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54:10Today, we have the pleasure of introducing two esteemed panelists poised to ignite our minds with their profound expertise on cybersecurity in the maritime sector. Gary Kessler and James Cabe are two remarkable individuals who will shed light on the vast spectrum of applications that intertwine maritime operations and the crucial realm of cybersecu…
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85: Cyber Security for the Aviation Industry, Part 2
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48:42We are delighted to welcome you to a riveting panel discussion on a subject at the intersection of technology, security, and the boundless skies! Today, we delve into the captivating realm of cyber security for aviation and aerospace! We are honored to introduce our three remarkable panelists, each of whom possesses a wealth of knowledge and expert…
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84: Cyber Security for the Automotive & Trucking Industry, Part 1
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56:51We are excited to welcome you to our eagerly anticipated panel discussion on the ever-evolving automotive and trucking industries! Today, we are privileged to host a remarkable trio of experts who will provide us with invaluable insights and diverse perspectives. We are delighted to introduce our esteemed panelists, Michael Clifford, Nikhil Bogam, …
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83: Steve Mustard with Bob Radvanovsky: Latest Developments, Challenges, and Emerging Trends in Cybersecurity
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54:57Welcome to today’s ground-breaking episode of the CS2AI podcast, where we have the privilege of hosting a dynamic duo of cybersecurity specialists who have dedicated their careers to protecting our critical infrastructure! Steve Mustard is a seasoned automation engineer from Houston, Texas, with a passion for securing automation and control systems…
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82: Shaping the Cybersecurity Industry Through Persistent Innovation with Jonathan Pollet
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43:49Derek is super excited to welcome a true trailblazer in the world of cybersecurity today! Jonathan Pollet is the Founder and Executive Director of Red Tiger Security. He is an invaluable pioneer and a long-time contributor to the cybersecurity community. He has been a guiding light for those who ventured into cybersecurity from traditional IP backg…
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