The podcast where DJ Louie XIV and guests completely overanalyze all your favorite pop stars, then rank them in the official Pop Pantheon.
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What’s the greatest celebrity notes app apology of all time? Who is Hollywood’s most divorced man? And which society is torturing the poets? Wanna know the answers, but have no time to scour the internet all day? Well, Peyton Dix and Hunter Harris have your back. These two beacons of truth and connoisseurs of mess have been bonded for over a decade, sharing the traumas of a crappy Boston dorm room and a pitiful Brooklyn dating scene. Now, these certified haters and internet carnivores are re ...
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Encore: Causing Mayhem (with DJ Louie XIV) | 52
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51:46They're almost back with brand new episodes, bIn this week's rerun episode, Hunter and Peyton dig into the new word of mouth hit The Pitt on HBO and check in on the newly rebooted Real Housewives of Atlanta. Then, they chat all things MAYHEM with DJ, writer and certified Lady Gaga scholar, DJ Louie XIV, host of the Pop Pantheon podcast — right in t…
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The Best Pop of 2025 You Might Have Missed (with Rolling Stone's Larisha Paul)
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1:17:14Rolling Stone staff writer Larisha Paul returns to Pop Pantheon to discuss the best pop songs you might have missed so far in 2025. Larisha and Russ talk about what it takes to break through in today's over-saturated pop market and what's happening on the outskirts of the mainstream pop world, then they each share some of their favorite bubbling un…
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Tom Cruise's Killer AI (with Dylan Carlino) | 55
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53:32This week, Hunter and Peyton tackle the latest — and last — Mission Impossible movie, Hailey Bieber’s new tax bracket, and talk to writer and comic Dylan Carlino about… girl talk! Follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram, Tik Tok and Youtube for more from Lemme Say This. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and…
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Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter Tour, Taylor Swift's Masters & Miley Cyrus' Something Beautiful (Patreon Preview)
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11:39In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, Louie and Russ get together to talk Louie's night at Beyoncé's Cowboy Carter show in New Jersey, Taylor Swift buying back her masters and how it impacts the legacy of the re-recording project, and Miley Cyrus' latest opus, Something Beautiful, which dropped on Friday. Plus, Louie tries S…
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The Best Pop of 2025 So Far (with Legends Only's Bradley Stern)
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1:22:49Host of the Legends Only podcast Bradley Stern returns to Pop Pantheon to discuss the best pop songs of 2025 so far. First, Louie and Bradley discuss the broader trends— or perhaps the broader lack of trends— happening in pop music so far this year, before each sharing their list of favorites from the first half of 2025. Listen to Louie and Bradley…
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This week, Hunter and Peyton tackle Forever, the new Judy Blume adaptation from Netflix, THAT comment from Justin Bieber, and check in on the latest romantic shenanigans from friend of the show, Jojo Siwa. Then, they’ll tell you to follow @lemmesaythispod on Instagram and Tik Tok! Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recomm…
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In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, Louie and Russ dive deep into the trenches of the Hot 100 to figure out what the hell is going on with mainstream pop music these days, parsing the songs of alleged popular artists such as "Alex Warren," "BigXThaPlug," "Myles Smith," "Benson Boone," and so many more. To hear the rest of …
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Listener Mailbag: Grammy Album of the Year Frontrunners, Gaga Copying Taylor(?!), & More!
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51:19Louie and Russ answer listener questions about the current 2026 Grammy Album of the Year Frontrunners, why Chappell Roan's "The Giver" underperformed, Max Martin's trajectory as a collaborator, whether Gaga directly ripped Taylor off on "How Bad Do U Want Me," and more! BUY TICKETS TO MAIN POP GIRLS: PRIDE ON JUNE 7 AT PARKSIDE LOUNGE! Gorgeous Gor…
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Secret Lies of Mormon Wives (with Joel Kim Booster) | 53
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49:39This week, Hunter and Peyton kick of season two with a brand new set, brand new social handles (follow @lemmesaythispod!) and a brand new guest: Joel Kim Booster. Then they chat about all the drama in the new season of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, and discuss Lorde’s not-quite gender journey. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcast…
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What Went Wrong on Lorde's Solar Power: A Track by Track Analysis (Patreon Preview)
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12:17In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, on the cusp of Lorde's forthcoming fourth studio album Virgin, due next month, Louie and Russ revisit her last album, 2021's divisive paean to the natural world, Solar Power. Neither loved this record on impact but how has it aged? Does it land differently out of the context of its momen…
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Writer and editor Ilana Kaplan joins Pop Pantheon to discuss one of pop’s criminally under-appreciated secrets, Haim. Louie and Ilana unpack the sister trio’s origins in Southern California, including their family band Rockinhaim and Este and Danielle’s short-lived teen pop band The Valli Girls. From there, they dig into 2013’s Days are Gone, a rec…
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After debating the current chart fortunes of everyone from Kendrick Lamar to Benson Boone, Chappell Roan, Lady Gaga and a bevy of current-charting Tik Tok stars they've never heard of, Louie and Russ throw down cash in a high stakes betting game in which they attempt to figure out what will be the official Song of Summer 2025! Come back this fall t…
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Encore: Keke Keeps a Check (with Sofie Pavitt) | 51
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46:19They might be on hiatus, but they haven't forgotten you. In this rerun episode, Hunter and Peyton talk about the movie One of Those Days, a political feud you didn’t see coming, and chat with noted acne whisperer Sofie Pavitt about her move from handbag designer to all-round skincare guru. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and Califor…
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Is Taylor Swift's The Tortured Poets Department Misunderstood? (with Shaad D'Souza) (Patreon Preview)
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11:49In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, Taylor Swift's eleventh studio album The Tortured Poets Department— a sprawling, 31 song, two disc, two+ hour melange of music from the superstar— arrived last April amidst peak Taylor cultural overload: her landmark Eras Tour had been globe-trotting for a year, she'd just recently domin…
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In the wake of our epic Britney series, critic and writer of the Substack In the Zine Alim Kheraj joins Louie and Russ to answer all your burning follow up questions: What are our favorite Britney deep cuts? What do we make of the anti-Britneys like Avril? Who would we cast in a proper remake of the Britney, Beyoncé, and Pink Pepsi commercial? And …
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This week, Hunter and Peyton review Ryan Coogler’s new box-office hit Sinners, dig into the true-crime case of Karen Read, and talk about who they can’t wait to see at The Met Gala. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletter Listen to Lemme Say This on…
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Lorde Returns, Katy Perry's Latest Flop & More (Patreon Preview)
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11:39In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, late last week, Lorde ushered in her much-anticipated new era by dropping her latest single, "What Was That," amidst a surprise live pop-up show in New York City's Washington Square Park, before releasing the song's music video soon after. So how is it? And what does it tell us about the…
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Reanna Cruz joins Pop Pantheon to break down the rise of Mr. Worldwide himself, Pitbull. Reanna and Louie explore Pitbull's genesis in the cultural hub of Miami and his breakthrough with 2004's dancehall-cum-reggaeton banger “Culo.” They then tackle his early work in both Spanish and English and his pivot towards big dance anthems and cross-cultura…
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The Last Of Us (with Punkie Johnson) | 49
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45:46This week, Hunter and Peyton tackle that shocking episode of The Last of Us, and run down the Coachella lineup. Then, they’re joined by Punkie Johnson to chat about being a Taurus, her podcast Gay and Ghetto, and all things SNL50. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery…
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Latin Pop Speed Round: Bad Bunny, Nathy Peluso & more (with Isabella Gomez Sarmiento) (Patreon Preview)
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11:58In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, NPR's Isabella Gomez Sarmiento joins Russ to discuss the expansive world of latin pop, including Bad Bunny's latest album, Debí Tirar Más Fotos, plus new songs from Nathy Peluso, Bb trickz & more. To hear the rest of the this episode plus receive weekly bonus episodes of Pop Pantheon, ga…
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Where Are All the Queer Male Superstars? (with USC's Jason King)
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57:13Queer men are the backbone of modern pop fandom. And yet so few, even in 2025, get to the top of the mainstream pop star heap. Why is that? And how have queer male artists existed in the pop music firmament over the last hundred years? Dean of USC's Thornton School of Music Jason King is here to help unpack all these questions and more. Come to Gor…
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The Mess Express (with Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin) | 48
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47:39This week, Hunter and Peyton get Pitt-pilled with Doctor Robby and Doctor Abbot, get into their auntie groove with Mary J. Blige, and reconnect with Bon Iver. Then, they’re joined by Sydnee Washington and Marie Faustin — hosts of the MESS podcast — to talk about messy people, messy friends and messy pop stars in space. Be the first to know about Wo…
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Gagachella + new songs from Lana Del Rey, Miley Cyrus & more (with Nora Princiotti) (Patreon Preview)
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11:12In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, The Ringer’s Nora Princiotti joins Russ to talk about Lady Gaga’s extraordinary Coachella performance. They also play a New Music Speed Round with new songs from Lana Del Rey, Miley Cyrus, Ed Sheeran & more. To hear the rest of the this episode plus receive weekly bonus episodes of Pop P…
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Are Lady Gaga, Drake, & Selena Gomez Moving Up or Down in the Pop Pantheon?
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1:00:06In a game of "Step Up, Step Down," Louie and Russ discuss recent career developments from Lady Gaga, Drake, Selena Gomez, Tate McRae, & Bruno Mars and whether they are currently trending up or down in the official Pop Pantheon. Come to Gorgeous Gorgeous NYC on 4/11 Come to Gorgeous Gorgeous LA on 4/18 Join Pop Pantheon: All Access, Our Patreon Chan…
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This week, Hunter and Peyton tackle the White Lotus finale, the new season of Temptation Island, and stand aside while Black Ariana Grande (Blackiana) makes her return. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletter Listen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery …
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Gaga Mailbag! + Kylie's Tour & Louie's Book (Patreon Preview)
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12:15In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, Louie and Russ are answering your burning questions regarding Mayhem, the tour, and so much more on Lady Gaga. They're also talking about seeing Kylie Minogue's North American arena tour and Louie's recently announced book! To hear the rest of the this episode plus receive weekly bonus e…
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The Best Pop Songs of the 2020s So Far (with Shaad D'Souza, Rob Harvilla, & Puja Patel)
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1:43:05As a sequel to a recent episode recapping The Best Albums of the 2020s So Far, critic Shaad D'Souza, The Ringer's Rob Harvilla, and writer and editor Puja Patel are here to count down each of our top five pop songs of the 2020s so far. Check out a playlist of our top pop songs of the 2020s so far on Spotify Come to Gorgeous Gorgeous NYC on 4/11 Com…
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This week, Hunter and Peyton visit the new word of mouth hit The Pitt on HBO, check in on the newly rebooted Real Housewives of Atlanta, and chat all things MAYHEM with DJ, writer and certified Lady Gaga scholar, DJ Louie XIV, host of the Pop Pantheon podcast. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! …
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One Year of Ariana Grande's Eternal Sunshine + Brighter Days Ahead (Patreon Preview)
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10:37In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, this past Friday, just over a year after the release of her 7th studio album, Eternal Sunshine, Ariana Grande released a deluxe version, Brighter Days Ahead. Louie and Russ reflect on how their feelings about the original record have evolved since it first dropped and how the new songs— …
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Is Britney Spears Tier 1? (with Molly Mary O'Brien, Jason King, Doreen St. Félix, Ann Powers, Caryn Ganz, & Troy McEady)
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2:01:54We've finally arrived! After four episodes and nearly ten hours of discussion and dissection, Pop Pantheon's Britney Spears Mega Series concludes with the big question: Is Britney Spears in Tier 1 of the Pantheon? To parse that out, Louie and Russ are joined by friend of the pod Molly Mary O'Brien to pull at this debate from every possible angle. T…
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Famously Pro Divorce (with Haley Mlotek) | 45
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41:00This week, Hunter and Peyton check in with the newest plot developments on The White Lotus and get to know the new cast of Real Housewives of Atlanta. And they’re joined by Haley Mlotek, author of the new divorce memoir “No Fault” to talk divorce trends over the years, the history of no fault divorce in America, and what it feels like to go through…
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BRITNEY SPEARS: PART 4 (with Beyond the Blinds' Troy McEady)
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2:29:38For the fourth episode in our five-part series on Britney Spears, Beyond The Blinds’ Troy McEady returns to Pop Pantheon to discuss late period Britney, an unnerving decade+ period where Britney's pop stardom often felt forced upon her and yet produced some of her most beloved and successful music. Troy and Louie start with her EDM reimagining on 2…
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This week, Hunter and Peyton get into the Traitors season three finale and reunion, the new HAIM music video, and Scarlett Johansson’s immediately iconic interview quote. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletter Listen to Lemme Say This on the Wonder…
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Chappell Roan Returns + New Music From Lil Nas X, Haim & Lizzo (Patreon Preview)
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12:26In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, on Friday, Chappell Roan finally dropped her long-awaited country single "The Giver," first teased on SNL back in November, plus Lil Nas released his Neptunes-nodding "Hot Box," Haim shared their treatise on "Relationships," and Lizzo gave it another whirl. Louie and Russ discuss all the…
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BRITNEY SPEARS: PART 3 (with The New York Times' Caryn Ganz)
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2:16:06For the third episode in our five-part series on Britney Spears, The New York Times pop music editor Caryn Ganz makes her Pop Pantheon debut to parse through a period in which tabloids covered Britney’s every move like a national news story. Caryn and Louie discuss how a turbulent time in Britney’s personal life led to what’s now considered a pop c…
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Normalize Gay Chaos (with Watch What Crappens) | 43
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45:00This week, Hunter and Peyton talk about the newest pop princesses on the scene, and Alec Baldwin’s new TLC reality show The Baldwins. Then, they’re joined by Ben Mandelker and Ronnie Karam of Watch What Crappens to talk about all things Bravo. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at ht…
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Reborn This Way: Lady Gaga Goes Back to Basics on Mayhem (with Bobby Finger & Lindsey Weber) (Patreon Preview)
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11:06In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, Lady Gaga just dropped her hotly anticipated 7th studio album, Mayhem, this past Friday. Monster braintrust Louie, Russ and Who? Weekly's Bobby Finger and Lindsey Weber got together to queen on the new record, which indexes past Gaga styles through a decidedly distilled, adult framework …
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BRITNEY SPEARS: PART 2 (with NPR's Ann Powers)
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2:13:39For the second in our five-part series on Britney Spears, NPR’s Ann Powers joins Pop Pantheon to discuss Britney’s first attempts to transition from teen queen to grown-up pop star. Ann and Louie tackle Britney's iconic “I’m a Slave 4 U” VMA performance, work with The Neptunes and play at maturity on 2001’s Britney, relationship and breakup with Ju…
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And You Get An Oscar (with Who? Weekly) | 42
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44:56This week, Hunter and Peyton tackle the winners and losers of this year’s Oscars with Lindsey Weber and Bobby Finger, the hosts of the podcast Who Weekly. Then they check in on season three of HBO’s White Lotus, and Peyton fills Hunter in on the recent feud between white rappers Alabama Barker and Bhad Bhabie. Be the first to know about Wondery’s n…
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BRITNEY SPEARS: PART 1 (with The New Yorker's Doreen St. Félix)
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2:37:19For the first in our five-part series on Britney Spears, The New Yorker’s Doreen St. Felix returns to Pop Pantheon to chart the birth of a pop princess. Doreen and Louie dig into Britney’s origin story, from Star Search and The New Mickey Mouse Club to her Jive deal and development in Sweden with Max Martin. Then, they tackle her legendary breakout…
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This week, Hunter and Peyton come to you live from On-Air Fest in Brooklyn to talk about the ins and outs of 2025 so far, the best divorces of all time, and let the audience vote on the winner of a little game called Culture Courtroom. And there’s even a game of bingo for the true Lemme Say This heads. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest po…
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The Vacuous Comforts of Tate McRae's So Close to What (with Steven J. Horowitz) (Patreon Preview)
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11:09In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, is pop music stuck in a nostalgia loop? Pop starlet Tate McRae's new album is highly referential to the last twenty years of pop from Britney to the Pussycat Dolls to Halsey and beyond. But on her new album So Close to What, which dropped last week, does she form her own identity? Or do …
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Ranking Every Lady Gaga Album (with Carey O'Donnell, Kristen S. Hé & Naomi Zeichner)
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1:36:03Lady Gaga's seventh studio album Mayhem drops on March 7 and in anticipation of the big day, Carey O'Donnell, Kristen S. Hé, and Naomi Zeichner join DJ Louie to break down their thoughts, hope and dreams on the upcoming record before each sharing their ranking of Gaga's albums to this point. Come to Main Pop Girls on 3/21! Come to Gorgeous Gorgeous…
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This week, Hunter and Peyton talk about the new season of Love Is Blind, check in on The Traitors and chat about Peacock’s newest film, Bridget Jones: Mad About The Boy. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podcasts, curated recommendations, and more! Sign up now at https://wondery.fm/wonderynewsletter Listen to Lemme Say This on the Wondery…
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Is Katy Perry's Teenage Dream a Classic Without Its Singles? (Patreon Preview)
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9:37In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, Katy Perry's second studio album Teenage Dream is deemed a classic "pop bible" by many pop fans. The album produced five number one singles and spun off a deluxe version with another couple top tens. But what about the other seven tracks from the TD era? If you listen to this record with…
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Listener Mailbag! Olivia Rodrigo's Next Move, Cher, Gaga, the Lack of Gay Male Pop Stars & More
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52:38Louie and Russ are answering your questions about whether pop stars like Cher can still exist, what Olivia Rodrigo should do next, how they listen to music for the show, why gay men have trouble embracing gay male pop stars, and so much more. Come to Gorgeous Gorgeous Valentines Day in LA on 2/14 Come to Gorgeous Gorgeous NYC on 3/1 Join Pop Panthe…
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Smells Like Bitch In Here (with Willa Bennett) | 39
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42:24This week, Hunter and Peyton talk about Kendrick Lamar’s Superbowl victory lap and the internet’s newest main character Onijah Robinson. Then, they’re joined by Editor in Chief of Cosmopolitan and Seventeen magazine Willa Bennett to talk about Cosmo’s new Love Issue, just in time for Valentine’s Day. Be the first to know about Wondery’s newest podc…
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Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl (RIP Drake!) + New Music from Tate McRae, Doechii & More (Patreon Preview)
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11:02In a preview of this week's Pop Pantheon: All Access episode, Louie and Russ break down Kendrick Lamar's explosive Super Bowl halftime performance before getting into new songs from Tate McRae, Sexxy Redd & Bruno Mars, Rose Gray & Doechii. To hear the rest of the this episode plus receive weekly bonus episodes of Pop Pantheon, gain access to our Di…
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KENDRICK LAMAR: PART 2 (with Stephen Kearse)
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2:07:45Critic Stephen Kearse joins Pop Pantheon for the conclusion of our two-part series on Kendrick Lamar ahead of his Super Bowl halftime show this Sunday. Stephen and Louie tackle Kendrick’s string of hit-making guest appearances in the mid-2010s, his first solo number one, “Humble,” and 2017’s critically adored Damn. Then they discuss Black Panther a…
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Is the Beyhive Ready? (with Sarah Hagi) | 38
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46:11This week, Hunter and Peyton talk about all the big moments from this year’s Grammy ceremony and get nosy about some Bachelor Nation gossip with the Rachael Kickconnell/Matt James breakup. Then, they chat with returning guest Sarah Hagi about Oscar nominee Karla Sofía Gascon’s history of racism, and what it was like to break the big story. Be the f…
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