Best Hawkin Dynamics Podcasts (2025)

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Joe Carlsmith - A Wiser, AI-Powered Civilization is the “Successor” (Worthy Successor, Episode 15) 1:52:41

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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Joe Carlsmith, a senior advisor at Open Philanthropy, whose work spans AI alignment, moral uncertainty, and the philosophical foundations of value. In this conversation, Joe joins us in his personal capacity, not representing any brand or company, and offering his own thoughtf…

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Blaise Agüera y Arcas - AGI Symbiosis and the Arrow of Intelligence (Worthy Successor, Episode 14) 1:23:58

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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with Blaise Agüera y Arcas, Vice President and Fellow at Google, and CTO of Technology & Society. In this conversation, Blaise talks about how life and intelligence seem to move in a single direction - toward greater complexity and deeper interdependence. Blaise describes this move…

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Brad Carson - AGI Competition with Civility and Understanding (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 5) 1:04:25

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This is an interview with Brad Carson, who served as a U.S. Congressman and as Under Secretary of the Army. Later, he served as the Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel & Readiness, and now serves as President of Americans for Responsible Innovation (ARI). You might expect someone with deep roots in national security to see AGI through a…

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Irakli Beridze - Can the UN Help with Global AGI Governance? (AGI Governance, Episode 11) 52:52

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Joining us in our eleventh episode of our series AGI Governance on The Trajectory is Irakli Beridze, Director of the UNICRI Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Robotics under the United Nations mandate. In this conversation, Irakli draws a stark contrast between yesterday’s arms-control templates and tomorrow’s AI. Chemical weapons were narrow, …

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Dean Xue Lan - A Multi-Pronged Approach to Pre-AGI Coordination (AGI Governance, Episode 10) 37:01

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Joining us in our tenth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Dean Xue Lan, longtime scholar of public policy and global governance, whose recent work centers on AI safety and international coordination. In this episode, Xue stresses that AGI governance must evolve as an adaptive network. The UN can set frameworks among nations,…

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RAND’s Joel Predd - Competitive and Cooperative Dynamics of AGI (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 4) 1:09:41

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This is an interview with Joel Predd, a senior engineer at the RAND Corporation and co-author of RAND’s work on “five hard national security problems from AGI,”. In this conversation, Joel lays out a sober frame for leaders: treat AGI as technically credible but deeply uncertain; assume it will be transformational if it arrives; and recognize that …

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Drew Cukor - AI Adoption as a National Security Priority (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 3) 51:15

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USMC Colonel Drew Cukor spent 25 years as decades in uniform and helped spearhead early Department of Defense AI efforts, eventually leading project including the Pentagon’s Project Maven. After government service, he’s led AI initiatives in the private sector, first with JP Morgan and now with TWG Global. Drew argues that when it comes to the US-C…

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Stuart Russell - Avoiding the Cliff of Uncontrollable AI (AGI Governance, Episode 9) 1:04:32

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Joining us in our ninth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Stuart Russell, Professor of Computer Science at UC Berkeley and author of Human Compatible. In this episode, Stuart explores why current AI race dynamics resemble a prisoner’s dilemma, why governments must establish enforceable red lines, and how international coordi…

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Craig Mundie - Co-Evolution with AI: Industry First, Regulators Later (AGI Governance, Episode 8) 36:45

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Joining us in our eighth episode of our AGI Governance series on The Trajectory is Craig Mundie, former Chief Research and Strategy Officer at Microsoft and longtime advisor on the evolution of digital infrastructure, AI, and national security. In this episode, Craig and I explore how bottom-up governance could emerge from commercial pressures and …

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Jeremie and Edouard Harris - What Makes US-China Alignment Around AGI So Hard (US-China AGI Relations, Episode 2) 1:33:06

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This is an interview with Jeremie and Edouard Harris, Canadian researchers with backgrounds in AI governance and national security consulting, and co-founders of Gladstone AI. In this episode, Jeremie and Edouard explain why trusting China on AGI is dangerous, highlight ongoing espionage in Western labs, explore verification tools like tamper-proof…

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Ed Boyden - Neurobiology as a Bridge to a Worthy Successor (Worthy Successor, Episode 13) 1:19:27

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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series features Ed Boyden, an American neuroscientist and entrepreneur at MIT, widely known for his work on optogenetics and brain simulation - his breakthroughs have helped shape the frontier of neurotechnology. In this episode, we explore Ed’s vision for what kinds of posthuman intelligences deserve to…

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Roman Yampolskiy - The Blacker the Box, the Bigger the Risk (Early Experience of AGI, Episode 3) 1:28:56

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This is an interview with Roman V. Yampolskiy, a computer scientist at the University of Louisville and a leading voice in AI safety. Everyone has heard Roman's p(doom) arguments, that isn't the focus of our interview. We instead talk about Roman's "untestability" hypothesis, and the fact that there maybe untold, human-incomprehensible powers alrea…

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Toby Ord - Crucial Updates on the Evolving AGI Risk Landscape (AGI Governance, Episode 7) 1:24:49

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Joining us in our seventh episode of our series AGI Governance on The Trajectory is Toby Ord, Senior Researcher at Oxford University’s AI Governance Initiative and author of The Precipice: Existential Risk and the Future of Humanity. Toby is one of the world’s most influential thinkers on long-term risk - and one of the clearest voices on how advan…

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Martin Rees - If They’re Conscious, We Should Step Aside (Worthy Successor, Episode 12) 1:17:06

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This new installment of the Worthy Successor series is an interview with the brilliant Martin Rees - British cosmologist, astrophysicist, and 60th President of the Royal Society. In this interview we explore his belief that humanity is just a stepping stone between Darwinian life and a new form of intelligent design - not divinely ordained, but con…

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Emmett Shear - AGI as "Another Kind of Cell" in the Tissue of Life (Worthy Successor, Episode 11) 1:30:42

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This is an interview with Emmett Shear - CEO of SoftMax, co-founder of Twitch, former interim CEO of OpenAI, and one of the few public-facing tech leaders who seems to take both AGI development and AGI alignment seriously. In this episode, we explore Emmett’s vision of AGI as a kind of living system, not unlike a new kind of cell, joining the tissu…

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Joshua Clymer - Where Human Civilization Might Crumble First (Early Experience of AGI - Episode 2) 1:51:37

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This is an interview with Joshua Clymer, AI safety researcher at Redwood Research, and former researcher at METR. Joshua has spent years focused on institutional readiness for AGI, especially the kinds of governance bottlenecks that could become breaking points. His thinking is less about far-off futures and more about near-term institutional failu…

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Peter Singer - Optimizing the Future for Joy, and the Exploration of the Good [Worthy Successor, Episode 10] 1:25:55

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This is an interview with Peter Singer, one of the most influential moral philosophers of our time. Singer is best known for his groundbreaking work on animal rights, global poverty, and utilitarian ethics, and his ideas have shaped countless conversations about the moral obligations of individuals, governments, and societies. This interview is our…

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David Duvenaud - What are Humans Even Good For in Five Years? [Early Experience of AGI - Episode 1] 1:55:59

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This is an interview with David Duvenaud, Assistant Professor at University of Toronto, co-author of the Gradual Disempowerment paper, and former researcher at Anthropic. This is the first episode in our new “Early Experience of AGI” series - where we explore the early impacts of AGI on our work and personal lives. This episode referred to the foll…

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Kristian Rönn - A Blissful Successor Beyond Darwinian Life [Worthy Successor, Episode 9] 1:47:40

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This is an interview with Kristian Rönn, author, successful startup founder, and now CEO of Lucid, and AI hardware governance startup based in SF. This is an additional installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the f…

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Jack Shanahan - Avoiding an AI Race While Keeping America Strong [US-China AGI Relations, Episode 1] 1:41:56

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This is an interview with Jack Shanahan, a three-star General and former Director of the Joint AI Center (JAIC) within the US Department of Defense. This the first installment of our "US-China AGI Relations" series - where we explore pathways to achieving international AGI cooperation while avoiding conflicts and arms races. This episode referred t…

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Richard Ngo - A State-Space of Positive Posthuman Futures [Worthy Successor, Episode 8] 1:46:15

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This is an interview with Richard Ngo, AGI researcher and thinker - with extensive stints at both OpenAI and DeepMind. This is an additional installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referred to the following other essays and re…

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Yi Zeng - Exploring 'Virtue' and Goodness Through Posthuman Minds [AI Safety Connect, Episode 2] 1:14:19

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This is an interview with Yi Zeng, Professor at the Chinese Academy of Sciences, a member of the United Nations High-Level Advisory Body on AI, and leader of the Beijing Institute for AI Safety and Governance (among many other accolades). Over a year ago when I asked Jaan Tallinn "who within the UN advisory group on AI has good ideas about AGI and …

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Max Tegmark - The Lynchpin Factors to Achieving AGI Governance [AI Safety Connect, Episode 1] 26:06

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This is an interview with Max Tegmark, MIT professor, Founder of the Future of Humanity Institute, and author of Life 3.0. This interview was recorded on-site at AI Safety Connect 2025, a side event from the AI Action Summit in Paris. See the full article from this episode: https://danfaggella.com/tegmark1 Listen to the full podcast episode: https:…

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Michael Levin - Unfolding New Paradigms of Posthuman Intelligence [Worthy Successor, Episode 7] 1:16:35

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This is an interview with Dr. Michael Levin, a pioneering developmental biologist at Tufts University. This is an additional installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. Listen to this episode on The Trajectory Youtube Channel: https://www.yout…

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57. "How to Recognize Gaslighting: Signs, Scripture Twisting, and Support (w/ Laurel Slade-Waggoner)” 41:55

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In this episode, Dr. David Hawkins sits down with counselor and author Laurel Slade-Waggoner to unpack gaslighting in everyday relationships—not only in marriage, but also in families, churches, friendships, and workplaces. Laurel shares her story, defines the “crazy cycle” (love bombing → manipulation → blow-ups → apologies → repeat), and explains…

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56. From Fawn to Full Voice: Trauma-Informed Healing from Emotional & Narcissistic Abuse w/ Kathy Young 50:54

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When abuse shrinks you, how do you take up space again? In this episode of Marriage Rehab: Exposing Narcissistic and Emotional Abuse, clinical psychologist and bestselling author Dr. David B. Hawkins sits down with Kathy Young, a trauma-informed coach and survivor of a 35-year emotionally abusive marriage. Together, they unpack the survival strateg…

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55. Dr. Hawkins' Reacts! Exploring Therapist Client Dynamics 47:33

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins and Jonathan Glover tackle the dynamics of therapist-client relationships in a special installment of "Dr. Hawkins’ Reacts!" With Katie Buckley as the producer, they dive into real-life Reddit stories that highlight common struggles in therapy, including clients repeatedly canceling sessions, the co…

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54. The Great Sex Rescue with Sheila Gregoire 43:40

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins welcomes Sheila Wray Gregoire, author of The Great Sex Rescue, for an impactful conversation on challenging harmful evangelical teachings about sex and marriage. Sheila shares her journey into this work, including what inspired her to conduct the largest-ever study on evangelical women’s marital and…

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53. How Narcissism Affects Families 38:47

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins is joined by Ernest Hart, a seasoned clinician at the Marriage Recovery Center, to explore the complexities of family interventions in the context of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and emotional abuse. Together, they discuss the unique challenges families face when attempting to confront de…

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52. Empowering Women in Emotionally Abusive Marriages, Part 2 40:49

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins welcomes back Karla Downing, award-winning author, speaker, and founder of ChangeMyRelationship.com. In her previous episode, Karla shares powerful insights from her book 10 Lifesaving Principles for Women in Difficult Marriages, offering practical tools and wisdom for women navigating challenging r…

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Eliezer Yudkowsky - Human Augmentation as a Safer AGI Pathway [AGI Governance, Episode 6] 1:14:45

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This is an interview with Eliezer Yudkowsky, AI Researcher at the Machine Intelligence Research Institute. This is the sixth installment of our "AGI Governance" series - where we explore the means, objectives, and implementation of of governance structures for artificial general intelligence. Watch this episode on The Trajectory Youtube Channel: ht…

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51. Navigating Sexual Wholeness with Dr. Carol Tanksley 41:55

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins is joined by Dr. Carol Tanksley, author of Sexpectations, and MRC clinician Jill Stenerson to discuss the intersection of sexual intimacy, emotional abuse, and narcissistic behaviors in relationships. Together, they explore what healthy intimacy looks like, how to heal from sexual harm caused by abu…

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50. Marriage Intensives - Do They Really Help? 43:15

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins is joined by Dr. John Hudson and Ernest Hart to explore the Marriage Intensive Programs offered at the Marriage Recovery Center. These intensive sessions provide high-conflict couples with focused, in-person work over the course of three transformative days. The conversation highlights the importanc…

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Connor Leahy - Slamming the Brakes on the AGI Arms Race [AGI Governance, Episode 5] 1:45:12

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This is an interview with Connor Leahy, the Founder and CEO of Conjecture. This is the fifth installment of our "AGI Governance" series - where we explore the means, objectives, and implementation of of governance structures for artificial general intelligence. Watch this episode on The Trajectory Youtube Channel: https://youtu.be/1j--6JYRLVk See t…

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49. Empowering Women in Emotionally Abusive Marriages, Part 1 38:15

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins welcomes Karla Downing, award-winning author, speaker, and founder of ChangeMyRelationship.com. Karla shares powerful insights from her book 10 Lifesaving Principles for Women in Difficult Marriages, offering practical tools and wisdom for women navigating challenging relationships. Together, they e…

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48. The Complexities of Neurodivergence and Emotional Abuse 47:18

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In this episode of Mad.In.Love, Dr. David Hawkins sits down with special guest Dr. Stephanie Holmes, a psychologist and counselor specializing in neurodiverse relationships. Together, they explore the intersection of autism, neurodivergence, and emotionally abusive traits within intimate relationships. Dr. Holmes shares insights into common pattern…

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Andrea Miotti - A Human-First AI Future [AGI Governance, Episode 4] 1:41:09

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This is an interview with Andrea Miotti, the Founder and Executive Director of ControlAI. This is the fourth installment of our "AGI Governance" series - where we explore the means, objectives, and implementation of of governance structures for artificial general intelligence. Watch this episode on The Trajectory Youtube Channel: https://youtu.be/L…

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47. “How Divorce and Narcissistic Abuse Impact Adult Children | with Kent Darcie” 39:01

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What is the long-term impact of divorce and narcissistic abuse on children once they grow into adults? In this episode, Dr. David Hawkins speaks with Kent Darcie, founder of Adult Children of Divorce Ministries and author of Choose a Better Path: Overcoming the Impact of Your Parents’ Divorce. Together they explore: How unresolved family trauma sha…

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46. Dr. Hawkins' Reacts! Is It Emotional Abuse? 43:01

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In this episode of Dr. Hawkins' Reacts, Dr. David Hawkins and Jonathan Glover join Katie Buckley as she reads real-life relationship stories found online. These accounts detail complex situations, and Dr. Hawkins and Jonathan weigh in to determine if there are signs of emotional abuse. With their expert analysis and compassionate approach, they bre…

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Stephen Ibaraki - The Beginning of AGI Global Coordination [AGI Governance, Episode 3] 50:25

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This is an interview with Stephen Ibaraki, the Founder of the ITU's (part of the United Nations) AI for Good initiative, and Chairman REDDS Capital. This is the third installment of our "AGI Governance" series - where we explore the means, objectives, and implementation of of governance structures for artificial general intelligence. This episode r…

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45. The Impact of Anxiety and Addictions on Relationships 43:44

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In this episode, Dr. David Hawkins is joined by Dr. Gregory Jantz, a renowned expert in mental health, to discuss the powerful intersections of anxiety, trauma, and social media. Together, they unpack how social media shapes perceptions of emotional abuse, often distorting reality and amplifying feelings of insecurity and fear. Dr. Jantz and Dr. Ha…

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44. Dr. Hawkins' Reacts! Responding to Your Emails 39:47

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In this episode of Dr. Hawkins' Reacts, Dr. David Hawkins and Jonathan Glover tackle a heartfelt and thought-provoking email sent in by one of our listeners. Katie Buckley reads the email aloud, sharing the listener's personal story and struggles, prompting Dr. Hawkins and Jonathan to provide their expert insights and practical advice. Together, th…

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Mike Brown - AI Cooperation and Competition Between the US and China [AGI Governance, Episode 2] 1:09:51

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This is an interview with Mike Brown, Partner at Shield Capital and the Former Director of the Defense Innovation Unit at the U.S. Department of Defense. This is the second installment of our "AGI Governance" series - where we explore how important AGI governance is, what it should achieve, and how it should be implemented. Watch this episode on Th…

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43. Exploring Couples Conflict Through the Lens of Internal Family Systems 45:58

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In this insightful follow-up episode, Dr. David Hawkins is joined once again by Lucas Forstmeyer to explore a high-conflict case through the lens of Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, they dive into the complexities of navigating toxic relationship dynamics, breaking down how IFS can help uncover the internal parts at play in both partners. D…

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42. Dr. Hawkins' Reacts! Assessing Fictional Characters 39:00

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In this episode of Dr. Hawkins' Reacts, Dr. David Hawkins and Jonathan Glover dive into a fascinating discussion as Katie Buckley presents fictional character personality traits for their analysis. Together, they explore whether these characters exhibit narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) traits or simply display toxic or emotionally abusive be…

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Sébastien Krier - Keeping a Pulse on AGI's Takeoff [AGI Governance, Episode 1] 1:33:40

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This is an interview with Sebastien Krier, who works in Policy Development and Strategy at Google DeepMind. This is the first installment of our "AGI Governance" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. Watch this episode on The Trajectory YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/SKl7…

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Joscha Bach - Building an AGI to Play the Longest Games [Worthy Successor, Episode 6] 2:01:04

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This is an interview with Joscha Bach, cognitive scientist, AI researcher, and AI Strategist at Liquid AI. This is the sixth and final installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. Watch this episode on The Trajectory YouTube channel: https://yo…

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Jeff Hawkins - Building a Knowledge-Preserving AGI to Live Beyond Us (Worthy Successor, Episode 5) 1:14:18

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This is an interview with Jeff Hawkins, Founder of Numenta and author of “A Thousand Brains." This is the fifth installment of our "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. Watch this episode on The Trajectory YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/pfqsbT0cW0o This…

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Scott Aaronson - AGI That Evolves Our Values Without Replacing Them (Worthy Successor, Episode 4) 1:17:47

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This is an interview with Scott Aaronson, theoretical computer scientist and Schlumberger Centennial Chair of Computer Science at the University of Texas at Austin. This is the fourth episode in the "Worthy Successor" series - where we explore the kinds of posthuman intelligences that deserve to steer the future beyond humanity. This episode referr…

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41. Narcissism, Emotional Abuse, and Internal Family Systems 44:44

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In this episode of the Mad.In.Love podcast, Dr. David Hawkins is joined by Lucas Forstmeyer, a renowned practitioner and course creator specializing in Internal Family Systems (IFS). Together, they explore the complex dynamics of narcissism, emotional abuse, and how specific patterns of behavior impact relationships. Lucas and Dr. Hawkins dive into…